Bbc

[.Sean.]

If ever you needed an example as to how much the National broadcaster wants to sweep this under the carpet then there you have it. The failure to even mention the S word never mind discuss it couldn’t have been clearer.

Chris McLaughlin you complete and utter embarrassment. This is what you’re up against

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Below which I’ve put on the PM board as well.

If I were Hibs I’d target the BBC as well on the back of last nights statement. **** them all. Proper siege mentality required, an all out offensive on anyone and everyone who we a have cast iron perception of being against us. Scottish football is a tree that needs shaken, for decades now it has been heavily favoured towards the Glasgow two and its high time the SFA, the government and our pathetic media were called out for it. Hopefully with BKFC’s millions we will have the wherewithal to hand out a good few bloody noses on the park as well. This is our time.

[CMac1988]

Tbf the news caster herself mentioned it (can't mind her name) which was more than I expected. Bit cheeky for Chris to pass over it and focus on everything else mind.

[hibsbollah]

We laughed at chemical ali.
Thats a deliberate attempt to deceive by Chris McGlaughlin. The story isnt about us you ****. its about The Rangers.
They are so, so cowardly.

[matty_f]

Made sure it got a mention online at least:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Folks were taking aim at the puppets not the puppet masters.

Here’s a thing …

riddle me this - can anyone uncover who the editor and producers of Sportsound and Sportscene are.

they are the ones who exert the control.

[A Hi-Bee]

Below which I’ve put on the PM board as well.

If I were Hibs I’d target the BBC as well on the back of last nights statement. **** them all. Proper siege mentality required, an all out offensive on anyone and everyone who we a have cast iron perception of being against us. Scottish football is a tree that needs shaken, for decades now it has been heavily favoured towards the Glasgow two and its high time the SFA, the government and our pathetic media were called out for it. Hopefully with BKFC’s millions we will have the wherewithal to hand out a good few bloody noses on the park as well. This is our time.

Ban the bbc as well, they are part of the problem.
Non so blind etc, etc.

[Waxy]

Ban the bbc as well, they are part of the problem.
Non so blind etc, etc.

Examples need to be made of them.
Dinosaurs

[Keepthefaith]

Made sure it got a mention online at least:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian

Very well said 👏👏👏

[04Sauzee]

Folks were taking aim at the puppets not the puppet masters.

Here’s a thing …

riddle me this - can anyone uncover who the editor and producers of Sportsound and Sportscene are.

they are the ones who exert the control.

Could be Douglas McNeil. Definitely don't quote me on that though.

[Aldo]

If ever you needed an example as to how much the National broadcaster wants to sweep this under the carpet then there you have it. The failure to even mention the S word never mind discuss it couldn’t have been clearer.

Chris McLaughlin you complete and utter embarrassment. This is what you’re up against

They are as complicit as those that sing. Failure to report or even upset those in the west have been plain and clear for years.

As others have mentioned we are acting and if they don’t like it, doesn’t to report it correctly then it’s clear who they pander too!

If this type of singing is not condoned by those at BBC Scotland (I include Sportsound and Sportscene) then we know.

We do however know that they will turn this on the club even more.

[hibsbollah]

Made sure it got a mention online at least:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian

Good on you Matty.
The problem is if you read that as a non-Hibs fan alongside the match report and watch the McLaughlin interview, youd assume you were just a paranoid fan whos got sour grapes. Thats the implication of talking about this in the media when the medias not interested in objectivity. Its like me going on GB news :greengrin

[James70]

So if the singing was anti semitic, anti Muslim, anti black or anti LGBTQ could you imagine the uproar but sectarian, well that's just normal in Scotland, nothing to get excited about. The cancer Scottish football has to live with.

[Gloucester Hibs]

Made sure it got a mention online at least:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian

Great stuff Matty, summarised my own thoughts well there :thumbsup:

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Could be Douglas McNeil. Definitely don't quote me on that though.

Yes linked in seems to suggest and a few others.
All of them unsurprisingly Glasgow/ West based educated and trained.

[blackpoolhibs]

Who is that in the picture opposite Montgomery?

[Scottie]

Made sure it got a mention online at least:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian
Well done Matty stuck it right to them with your honest assessment. No sugar coating and right to the point. Thank you :not worth

[Kato]

Chris McLaughlin will be reading a script. Editorial is in charge of what he says and what he doesn't say.

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[tamig]

Who is that in the picture opposite Montgomery?

Don Cowie.

[Scottie]

Who is that in the picture opposite Montgomery?
Don Cowie

[DaveF]

Who is that in the picture opposite Montgomery?

Don Cowie I think. In charge of County at the moment.

[Carheenlea]

Chris McLaughlin made comment of sectarian chanting by Rangers fans in his report of a game at Easter Road in 2015, which was met by such fury within Ibrox his media facilities at both Ibrox and Murray Park were withdrawn.

The BBC then opted to stand in solidarity with McLaughlin by refusing to send any BBC reporters to Ibrox, and the dispute raged on for seven years before it was eventually resolved when Rangers lifted the reporting restrictions on McLaughlin.

The BBC are obviously tip-toeing round using certain phrases in case they reopen an old dispute, and could explain why they’re choosing their words carefully at this time.

It really is a ridiculous state of affairs.

[CentreLine]

Watched the BBC evening news and was utterly flabbergasted. The initial presenter, in her intro to the program mentioned sectarianism.
The actual article gave brief mention of Hibs intention to reduce allocation for “some”‘visiting supporters. The presenter then went on to say that Hibs acknowledge that our own fans have not behaved well recently.
The presentation then went on to highlight examples of bad behaviour:

Hibs supporters throwing missiles at Tynecastle
Hibs supporters causing damage to seats at Fir Park
And a picture of anonymous supporters letting off flares. (Hard to tell but may have been the the rangers supporters but looked generic)

If ever the idiots amongst our support need a demonstration on the damage they do to our club ability to make change this was a very good example.

As fir the BBC, they are a disgrace.

[LunasBoots]

There's been previous people who have spoken up about it at the BBC down the years, they've either lost there jobs or withdrawn what they've said.

[Alex Trager]

So if the singing was anti semitic, anti Muslim, anti black or anti LGBTQ could you imagine the uproar but sectarian, well that's just normal in Scotland, nothing to get excited about. The cancer Scottish football has to live with.

Well that depends. If you pay £10M to the conservatives they’ll all come out and pretend your racist and sexist comments are fine because we have a hindu PM

[EskbankHibby]

Made sure it got a mention online at least:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian

Well done Matty

[GonzoReturns]

Made sure it got a mention online at least:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian

👏👏👏👏👏

[VoltaireHibs]

Made sure it got a mention online at least:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian

Excellent stuff. 👍

[I_Love_Latapy]

Chris McLaughlin made comment of sectarian chanting by Rangers fans in his report of a game at Easter Road in 2015, which was met by such fury within Ibrox his media facilities at both Ibrox and Murray Park were withdrawn.

The BBC then opted to stand in solidarity with McLaughlin by refusing to send any BBC reporters to Ibrox, and the dispute raged on for seven years before it was eventually resolved when Rangers lifted the reporting restrictions on McLaughlin.

The BBC are obviously tip-toeing round using certain phrases in case they reopen an old dispute, and could explain why they’re choosing their words carefully at this time.

It really is a ridiculous state of affairs.

Spot on. The issue is the power wielded by the OF. You may not agree with the BBC being timid, but you can understand why they might be. Same with SFA.

That said, the only way to defeat bullies is to stand up to them. So more power to the Club and I hope Hearts, Aberdeen and others choose to stand shoulder-to-shoulder. We shall see ...

[cabbageandribs1875]

no doubt a few club Ceo's will be a bit uncomfortable with hibs rocking the boat a bit


some desperately rely on the Blue pound to balance the finances

[raeburnhibs]

Chris McLaughlin made comment of sectarian chanting by Rangers fans in his report of a game at Easter Road in 2015, which was met by such fury within Ibrox his media facilities at both Ibrox and Murray Park were withdrawn.

The BBC then opted to stand in solidarity with McLaughlin by refusing to send any BBC reporters to Ibrox, and the dispute raged on for seven years before it was eventually resolved when Rangers lifted the reporting restrictions on McLaughlin.

The BBC are obviously tip-toeing round using certain phrases in case they reopen an old dispute, and could explain why they’re choosing their words carefully at this time.

It really is a ridiculous state of affairs.

Spot on with this analysis, McLaughlin, on reflection, looked pretty uncomfortable, quite unlike his usual demeanour

[gbhibby]

Watched the Hearts game and the commentator apologised if anyone was offended by the Shankland W####r song that was picked up loud and clear. I have never heard them apologise for bigoted songs picked up loud and clear with all the swear words included.

[Chorley Hibee]

We're taking on more than Rangers here.

Sectarianism is deep rooted in the Scottish establishment, and there's more than Rangers determined to undermine us.

The BBC has already shown which side of the argument they've taken.

Hibs need to be prepared for the fight and the long game.

We can't back down now.

[PatHead]

Watched the Hearts game and the commentator apologised if anyone was offended by the Shankland W####r song that was picked up loud and clear. I have never heard them apologise for bigoted songs picked up loud and clear with all the swear words included.

Said that to my wife last night.

[Don Giovanni]

Said that to my wife last night.

You told your wife that Shankland is a w****r?

[silverhibee]

They are as complicit as those that sing. Failure to report or even upset those in the west have been plain and clear for years.

As others have mentioned we are acting and if they don’t like it, doesn’t to report it correctly then it’s clear who they pander too!

If this type of singing is not condoned by those at BBC Scotland (I include Sportsound and Sportscene) then we know.

We do however know that they will turn this on the club even more.

Thoughts, why are Sky Sport allowed to promote sectarian singing every week on their platform, should they not be warning viewers that at times they may hear offensive singing during these games, rather than commentators saying the fans are bringing a great atmosphere to the game, Sky themselves know about the singing hence the volume being turned down at times when certain songs are being belted out but most of the time we just get it non stop.

[VoltaireHibs]

You told your wife that Shankland is a w****r?

Haven't we all? Lads? Lads..
?

[VoltaireHibs]

Thoughts, why are Sky Sport allowed to promote sectarian singing every week on their platform, should they not be warning viewers that at times they may hear offensive singing during these games, rather than commentators saying the fans are bringing a great atmosphere to the game, Sky themselves know about the singing hence the volume being turned down at times when certain songs are being belted out but most of the time we just get it non stop.

I would LOVE to watch an old firm derby where neither support sang about religion or bigotry. Wall to wall sweetie wrapper rustling. They'd get a fortune off Werthers to sponsor it.

And that's the nub of it. Without the bigotry they're just two big clubs in a fishpond. Nothing remotely special.

[Aldo]

Thoughts, why are Sky Sport allowed to promote sectarian singing every week on their platform, should they not be warning viewers that at times they may hear offensive singing during these games, rather than commentators saying the fans are bringing a great atmosphere to the game, Sky themselves know about the singing hence the volume being turned down at times when certain songs are being belted out but most of the time we just get it non stop.

I think you in particular Silver have mentioned the volume/mikes being turned down when certain songs are being sung!

Yeah they know but again who is watching?? I might suggest that your average viewer down south will not have a clue what they are singing (some with allegiances might) about so they won’t know. Most will be of a certain persuasion so will be more than happy and will probably belt it out in their living room or boozer. Do they care as long as they have subscribers…… I would say no. So Sky should be mentioning this during the commentary but choose not to.

[gbhibby]

Thoughts, why are Sky Sport allowed to promote sectarian singing every week on their platform, should they not be warning viewers that at times they may hear offensive singing during these games, rather than commentators saying the fans are bringing a great atmosphere to the game, Sky themselves know about the singing hence the volume being turned down at times when certain songs are being belted out but most of the time we just get it non stop.
Sky only apologise when they pick up the punters swearing next to the commentary position, never heard them mention anything when the sectarian chants are in full flow.

[blackpoolhibs]

Don Cowie I think. In charge of County at the moment.

What happened to Duncan Ferguson?

Ignore me i'm a tit, i could have sworn he was Ross County manager, but it's ICT. :faf:

[gbhibby]

What happened to Duncan Ferguson?
He manages ICT

[CropleyWasGod]

What happened to Duncan Ferguson?

He got the jail.




He's Inverness :greengrin

[gbhibby]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/duncan-ferguson-burglar-nearly-killed-29168546
Do you think any ICT players give him any lip.

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[Mcbizz1998]

What happened to Duncan Ferguson?

Ignore me i'm a tit, i could have sworn he was Ross County manager, but it's ICT. :faf:

Tbf I made the exact same mistake the other week when we played them. Was telling my pal how it will be a laugh to see big Dunc in the dugout, until it was pointed out I was talking pish!

[Mcbizz1998]

And to think there are some people who pay the license fee.

[Greenbeard]

Billy Boys Club

[gaz1875]

Made sure it got a mention online at least:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian


:top marks

[VoltaireHibs]

And to think there are some people who pay the license fee.

I pay it because across the board, when you lift your head away from local politics etc, it's still the best broadcaster in the world. Other countries would love to have something as intelligent as the BBC as their main state broadcaster. yes it has problems, plenty, but it still gives amazing value for money for those of us interested in the world at large, and it's fantastic nature programs, which really are the best in the world.

[SHODAN]

Chris McLaughlin made comment of sectarian chanting by Rangers fans in his report of a game at Easter Road in 2015, which was met by such fury within Ibrox his media facilities at both Ibrox and Murray Park were withdrawn.

The BBC then opted to stand in solidarity with McLaughlin by refusing to send any BBC reporters to Ibrox, and the dispute raged on for seven years before it was eventually resolved when Rangers lifted the reporting restrictions on McLaughlin.

The BBC are obviously tip-toeing round using certain phrases in case they reopen an old dispute, and could explain why they’re choosing their words carefully at this time.

It really is a ridiculous state of affairs.

Sounds like an effective strategy. Maybe we should try it?

[truehibernian]

Richard Gordon should be banned - far too many incidents of snide unnecessary comments about our players (Marcondes, Boyle, Malonga, GOC etc).

[JimBHibees]

Richard Gordon should be banned - far too many incidents of snide unnecessary comments about our players (Marcondes, Boyle, Malonga, GOC etc).

Doidge also. Very weird

[scm70nyd1973]

So if the singing was anti semitic, anti Muslim, anti black or anti LGBTQ could you imagine the uproar but sectarian, well that's just normal in Scotland, nothing to get excited about. The cancer Scottish football has to live with.

It’s like the 2nd world war where the US was fighting for freedom and to save the Jews who were getting slaughtered but they treated black people in their forces as low life .

It’s the same here with the SFA, SPFL and the BBC et al, happy to be abhorred by anything said against black people, gay people, Muslims but hey anything against catholics (in Rangers case) and Protestants (in Celtic’s case) is a case of “move on - nothing to see here”

Only in Scotland- pathetic isn’t just the start of it🤬

[Donegal Hibby]

Chris McLaughlin made comment of sectarian chanting by Rangers fans in his report of a game at Easter Road in 2015, which was met by such fury within Ibrox his media facilities at both Ibrox and Murray Park were withdrawn.

The BBC then opted to stand in solidarity with McLaughlin by refusing to send any BBC reporters to Ibrox, and the dispute raged on for seven years before it was eventually resolved when Rangers lifted the reporting restrictions on McLaughlin.

The BBC are obviously tip-toeing round using certain phrases in case they reopen an old dispute, and could explain why they’re choosing their words carefully at this time.

It really is a ridiculous state of affairs.

Just read this from Chris McLaughlin.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-68549775

[green day]

Just read this from Chris McLaughlin.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-68549775

Good article, actually

[1875godsgift]

Just read this from Chris McLaughlin.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-68549775

That's a more balanced article than their earlier report - hope he's got his tin hat on....

[Gloucester Hibs]

Just read this from Chris McLaughlin.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-68549775

Decent article by CM, goes a bit heavy on the missile throwing IMO but we’ve left ourselves open to that after the derby. Mentions sectarianism several times.

[Dr What If?]

Just read this from Chris McLaughlin.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-68549775

That gives me hope, our amazing fans who have forced our club's hand makes me proud. I still hold out hope that most fans of the vast majority of clubs share our mindset on the despicable sectarian disease and want it stopped. This could be the start of something big, I really hope it is.
The enablers that run the SFA and SPFL think that providing a haven for hate fuels our game, no......it fuels two sick clubs and turns the stomach of the rest. Strict liability could very well be the medicine the so called 'peripheral' clubs need to start getting their own fans coming back.

[Haymaker]

Good article, actually

Yep.

[PHeffernan]

Just read this from Chris McLaughlin.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-68549775

That's well written and balanced unlike some of the knee jerk slavers on this thread

[Waxy]

The best oppertunity yet for all Scottish clubs to join and help stop sectarianism in Scottish football.
Dont stay silent.

[Libby Hibby]

The best oppertunity yet for all Scottish clubs to join and help stop sectarianism in Scottish football.
Dont stay silent.

Have any other clubs came out in support of our statement? I think that might tell it’s own story. We’re in this alone at the moment.

[Albert Kidd 86’]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scotland

looks like over night, the BBC have decided we are really cutting the uglies allocation “due to flare use”! Unbelievable!!

The fight back has begun on behalf of the bigots.

The establishment are not going to go down without a fight, hold on tight everyone, this is going to get UGLY !!

[JimBHibees]

Just read this from Chris McLaughlin.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-68549775

Good article wonder why he didn't mention that on the news. Imo not a coincidence. He can say he covers it in the article but not when much more people watching. Possibly unfair

[JimBHibees]

Made sure it got a mention online at least:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian

Excellent article well done. Agree with every word.

[Brizo]

Made sure it got a mention online at least:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian

Well done Matty for putting your head above the parapet and calling it out

[Kato]

Good article wonder why he didn't mention that on the news. Imo not a coincidence. He can say he covers it in the article but not when much more people watching. Possibly unfairHe won't be in charge of what he says on TV.

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[JimBHibees]

He won't be in charge of what he says on TV.

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Assuming in not on. :greengrin

Probably not.

[Kato]

Assuming in not on. :greengrin

Probably not.[emoji106]

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[Brizo]

Decent article by CM, goes a bit heavy on the missile throwing IMO but we’ve left ourselves open to that after the derby. Mentions sectarianism several times.

A more balanced view but even then he feels the need to caveat it by talking about songs that many thought were confined to the 70s and 80s which we all know is absolute nonsense as these songs have never gone away.

McLaughlin will be aware that the BBC have only just been allowed back into Ibrox a couple of seasons ago and will no doubt have been given strict editorial guidelines around any comments he makes about The Rangers. From a personal career point of view he will also be fully aware of what happened to BBC pundits like Graham Spiers, Jim Spence and Michael Stewart when they spoke out against bigotry. Stewart was eventually let back into the BBC fold and it'll be interesting what he says about Hibs stance.

[CentreLine]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scotland

looks like over night, the BBC have decided we are really cutting the uglies allocation “due to flare use”! Unbelievable!!

The fight back has begun on behalf of the bigots.

The establishment are not going to go down without a fight, hold on tight everyone, this is going to get UGLY !!

Only judging by the picture but pictures don’t come with sound in written articles. The article itself is very balanced and makes it clear we are taking about sectarian abuse and behaviours here. I have to take back my criticism of McLaughlin from yesterday. He has covered this well here and is also implying that other clubs need to get behind Hibs in this one. Good article in my view.

[Albert Kidd 86’]

Excellent article well done. Agree with every word.


Only judging by the picture but pictures don’t come with sound in written articles. The article itself is very balanced and makes it clear we are taking about sectarian abuse and behaviours here. I have to take back my criticism of McLaughlin from yesterday. He has covered this well here and is also implying that other clubs need to get behind Hibs in this one. Good article in my view.


i agree it is a reasonable article, but the bullet points at the start of the article under the headline NOW clearly state :

”Hibs may cut old firm allocation over flare use”

A later addition to the otherwise good article. Why did they feel the need to put that?

[I_Love_Latapy]

Maybe they’ve changed it but the article looks pretty balanced to me and emphasises the sectarian issue a number of times. The headline/sub headers will be written and changed by the editorial team not the journalists.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68549775

The key thing now is what other non-OF clubs do …

[Not In The Know]

That gives me hope, our amazing fans who have forced our club's hand makes me proud. I still hold out hope that most fans of the vast majority of clubs share our mindset on the despicable sectarian disease and want it stopped. This could be the start of something big, I really hope it is.
The enablers that run the SFA and SPFL think that providing a haven for hate fuels our game, no......it fuels two sick clubs and turns the stomach of the rest. Strict liability could very well be the medicine the so called 'peripheral' clubs need to start getting their own fans coming back.


You would hope other fans / clubs would get behind it but I very much doubt it. A Quick Look at Kickback and the general response is non plussed, a rather suspicious consensus that Celtic fans are worse than Rangers fans. And we’re just as bad as the pair of them.

The Aberdeen board can’t even make a decision on what to have for dinner.

The Killie boys…

we’re gonna take all the flak and it will be business as usual.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

You would hope other fans / clubs would get behind it but I very much doubt it. A Quick Look at Kickback and the general response is non plussed, a rather suspicious consensus that Celtic fans are worse than Rangers fans. And we’re just as bad as the pair of them.

The Aberdeen board can’t even make a decision on what to have for dinner.

The Killie boys…

we’re gonna take all the flak and it will be business as usual.

It’s strange how many fans of “other” clubs (ie not Rangers Celtic or Hearts) I’ve seen pointing the finger back at us for how our fans have been behaving recently to be honest. Not defending it but a few bams throwing **** on the pitch is hardly comparable to decades upon decades of sectarian chanting


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[.Sean.]

Maybe they’ve changed it but the article looks pretty balanced to me and emphasises the sectarian issue a number of times. The headline/sub headers will be written and changed by the editorial team not the journalists.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68549775

The key thing now is what other non-OF clubs do …
The issue was never the article which appeared after he was on Reporting Scotland, it was was his complete and utter failure to mention the word sectarianism when he was on tele, he seemed to focus mainly on pyros which missed the point - deliberately

[Waxy]

The issue was never the article which appeared after he was on Reporting Scotland, it was was his complete and utter failure to mention the word sectarianism when he was on tele, he seemed to focus mainly on pyros which missed the point - deliberately

Probably not his fault as others have said.
The news is usually read from a script.

[.Sean.]

Probably not his fault as others have said.
The news is usually read from a script.
If it’s read solely off a script why get him to read it out and not the reporter who does the rest of the news

Immaterial anyway the issue is the BBC completely swerving any discussion of anything deemed sectarian on their main news show

[Waxy]

If it’s read solely off a script why get him to read it out and not the reporter who does the rest of the news

Immaterial anyway the issue is the BBC completely swerving any discussion of anything deemed sectarian on their main news show

Absolutely

[raeburnhibs]

Probably not his fault as others have said.
The news is usually read from a script.

Not sure about that, I think these guys have a measure of editorial control to frame a story the way they see fit, It was bizarre how (in my opinion) he chose to do it, but as others subsequently pointed out, he has been on the sharp end of some blowback in the past. This AND the overall BBC's reluctance to tackle the Hun full on behind this

[JimBHibees]

If it’s read solely off a script why get him to read it out and not the reporter who does the rest of the news

Immaterial anyway the issue is the BBC completely swerving any discussion of anything deemed sectarian on their main news show

Completely agree

[Billy McKirdy]

Made sure it got a mention online at least:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian

It’s also noticeable that the ‘have your say’ feature wasn’t active, what are they afraid of? I think we know the answer to that.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

What we really need is an independent journalist or a high profile member of the footballing fraternity to highlight the BBC’s behaviour over this.

[hibsbollah]

What we really need is an independent journalist or a high profile member of the footballing fraternity to highlight the BBC’s behaviour over this.

I give you; Pat Nevin. Hibs fan. History of speaking out against sectarianism (started supporting us after he became sick of sectarian chanting from Celtic, his fathers club). Very visible at the BBC (did the Five Live radio commentary with John Murray of Liverpool Man City at the weekend). Intelligent and eloquent. kudos as an ex-player. Probably doesnt want the hassle, theres about 1690 reasons not to, but you never know, his emails address is easily accessible...

[Smartie]

What we really need is an independent journalist or a high profile member of the footballing fraternity to highlight the BBC’s behaviour over this.

It mightn’t be the biggest shock if Alex Thomson’s ears pricked up, should this story gain any further traction over the coming weeks.

[.Sean.]

It mightn’t be the biggest shock if Alex Thomson’s ears pricked up, should this story gain any further traction over the coming weeks.
Who’s he?

[Mcbizz1998]

I pay it because across the board, when you lift your head away from local politics etc, it's still the best broadcaster in the world. Other countries would love to have something as intelligent as the BBC as their main state broadcaster. yes it has problems, plenty, but it still gives amazing value for money for those of us interested in the world at large, and it's fantastic nature programs, which really are the best in the world.

I should hope they make some good nature programmes, considering the amount of money they extort out of people with threat of prosecution. Even the old age pensioners aren't safe.

If the BBC is so great, let people opt out and lets see how many continue to pay for it! State media isn't for me.

[Smartie]

Who’s he?

Channel 4 journalist. English chap, picked upon the whole Rangers ceasing to exist story and was prepared to go where Scottish journalists wouldn’t / couldn’t.

[Irish_Steve]

It may be worthwhile trying to get onto the various football phone-ins and specifically mention sectarianism. May not get onto BBC Scotland but Robbie Savage/Chris Sutton's phone in on Five Live may be worth a shout. Mind you, as an ex Celtc player, Sutton may ignore it

[monarch]

Channel 4 journalist. English chap, picked upon the whole Rangers ceasing to exist story and was prepared to go where Scottish journalists wouldn’t / couldn’t.
Alex Thomson.

Also on the receiving end of threats from members of Scottish media.

David Leggat (ex Daily Record) springs to mind.

[truehibernian]

Alex Thomson.

Also on the receiving end of threats from members of Scottish media.

David Leggat (ex Daily Record) springs to mind.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4KroVyuSBiU

Hugh Keevins way back then showing you the state of Scottish football journalism - nothing to do with me lads, biggest story in a century but I’ve got two semi finals to do 😂😂

[ancient hibee]

Not sure about that, I think these guys have a measure of editorial control to frame a story the way they see fit, It was bizarre how (in my opinion) he chose to do it, but as others subsequently pointed out, he has been on the sharp end of some blowback in the past. This AND the overall BBC's reluctance to tackle the Hun full on behind this
BBC Scotland News items are timed to the second.Tight editorial control.Can’t overrun as it is an opt out from the main channel and needs to go to the next national programme at7.00 on the dot.

[ancient hibee]

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I give you; Pat Nevin. Hibs fan. History of speaking out against sectarianism (started supporting us after he became sick of sectarian chanting from Celtic, his fathers club). Very visible at the BBC (did the Five Live radio commentary with John Murray of Liverpool Man City at the weekend). Intelligent and eloquent. kudos as an ex-player. Probably doesnt want the hassle, theres about 1690 reasons not to, but you never know, his emails address is easily accessible...
His car was in the Easter Road car park on Sunday.Maybe someone else driving it?

[Ronniekirk]

So if the singing was anti semitic, anti Muslim, anti black or anti LGBTQ could you imagine the uproar but sectarian, well that's just normal in Scotland, nothing to get excited about. The cancer Scottish football has to live with.
More accurate to say , chosen to live with .What would be interesting to know is who really is pulling the strings when it comes to not being prepared to tackle Sectarianism within Football Just panning it off with comments like it’s a Societal Issue

[CentreLine]

More accurate to say , chosen to live with .What would be interesting to know is who really is pulling the strings when it comes to not being prepared to tackle Sectarianism within Football Just panning it off with comments like it’s a Societal Issue

It was interesting that BBC Radio Scotland chose to have a phone in debate this morning about racist comments made by a Tory party donator. Legitimate enough but I am just wondering when Kay Adams will have a similar phone in dedicated to racial and sectarian attitudes in Scottish football?

[VoltaireHibs]

More accurate to say , chosen to live with .What would be interesting to know is who really is pulling the strings when it comes to not being prepared to tackle Sectarianism within Football Just panning it off with comments like it’s a Societal Issue

Societal, structural and endemic.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

It mightn’t be the biggest shock if Alex Thomson’s ears pricked up, should this story gain any further traction over the coming weeks.

I'm expecting that too.

[hibsbollah]

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His car was in the Easter Road car park on Sunday.Maybe someone else driving it?

He definitely did the big game on the radio. Maybe hes got a really fast car :greengrin

[truehibernian]

Did The Rangers win tonight 😂 what an utter The Rangers love in that Sportsound has become 😂😫 they were rubbish tonight in a home game they could have won - you’d think they’re winning the treble easily now !!

[CentreLine]

Did The Rangers win tonight 😂 what an utter The Rangers love in that Sportsound has become 😂😫 they were rubbish tonight in a home game they could have won - you’d think they’re winning the treble easily now !!

So they get dumped out of Europe at home. I imagine the BBC were all over any sectarian singing.

[ekhibee]

Ross County v Hibs barely got a mention on the BBC on Wednesday, all about The Rangers european tie and Aberdeen.

[degenerated]

It was interesting that BBC Radio Scotland chose to have a phone in debate this morning about racist comments made by a Tory party donator. Legitimate enough but I am just wondering when Kay Adams will have a similar phone in dedicated to racial and sectarian attitudes in Scottish football?Can just see it :hilarious

"Hi, on call Kaye this morning we'll be discussing sectarianism at rangers games so why don't you call in and tell us how much you hate the SNP."

[Carheenlea]

It was interesting that BBC Radio Scotland chose to have a phone in debate this morning about racist comments made by a Tory party donator. Legitimate enough but I am just wondering when Kay Adams will have a similar phone in dedicated to racial and sectarian attitudes in Scottish football?


Can just see it :hilarious

"Hi, on call Kaye this morning we'll be discussing sectarianism at rangers games so why don't you call in and tell us how much you hate the SNP."

Kind of sounds a bit like The Nolan Show on BBC Radio Ulster!

The BBC don’t shy away from controversial topics in NI (although you could argue that the presenter does like to stoke the fires to ensure lively phone lines for the morning radio show) so no real reason why BBC Scotland should be shying away from such topics.

[LewysGot2]

Today's drive - and yes we really should know better-was like something out of a situation comedy where pundit parodies of themselves tried to outdo their own caricatures.

Going through there's loads of nonsense about the symbiotic relationship between journalists and players/managers with McIntyre telling Tam Cowan that journalists work hand in glove with football people to get them publicity or even mentioned to clubs in relation to getting contracts/jobs. They said the unsaid bit out loud.

However, on the way back Michael Stewart and Kevin-if-i-were-chocolate-id-eat-myself-Thomson tried to outdo each other in a cranky parody of themselves. Thomson constantly going on about young managers not getting a break whilst Stewart pushed Jack Ross and Neil Lennon for the Sheep job.
They both love the sound of their own voice but this was toe curlingly childish stuff. Ego v Ego.

[hibsbollah]

Biscuits and Mikey Stewart having a right old fight.
Mikey saying weve seen progress and Monty deserves time.
Biscuits has seen no improvement and should be sacked if we finish bottom six.
Tom English takes Biscuits side, while mentioning weve been poorly treated by VAR.

I do sometimes think they play assigned roles, copying some of the views they read from posters on here.