David Marshall

[Northernhibee]

The more I think about it, the more open I’d be to him being a one year extension. No doubt he was abysmal under LJ but I don’t blame him for that as much in hindsight

His experience is very useful and he still offers a lot.

I wanted him to retire this time last year, but IMO he’s earned it.

[Shrekko]

The more I think about it, the more open I’d be to him being a one year extension. No doubt he was abysmal under LJ but I don’t blame him for that as much in hindsight

His experience is very useful and he still offers a lot.

I wanted him to retire this time last year, but IMO he’s earned it.

He has bounced back remarkably well from a few months ago but why not go for somebody younger and better?

Do we just keep going until age completely catches up with him? My worry is that he's had to go off mid or pre game several times this season with minor issues.

[The Hibee Harp]

I was his harshest critic last season (and the very start of this) but credit where its due, since Montgomery came in, I think he has been fantastic and would be in my running for player of the year. I'm not saying he would or should win it only he is amongst our most consistent performers and has been very good imo for quite some time.

How much of last season was down to a lack of confidence, a lack of protection from a very poor defence or not getting along with LJ, who knows.

I wouldn't be against offering him another year.

[StarMan10]

He has bounced back remarkably well from a few months ago but why not go for somebody younger and better?

Do we just keep going until age completely catches up with him? My worry is that he's had to go off mid or pre game several times this season with minor issues.

I mean we basically did go for someone younger and who we thought was better in Wollacott last summer. Recall we even spent a fee on him. The worry you have when replacing a competent goalie is if you **** up on recruitment it’s gonna cost you dearly when it comes to games won and lost.

FWIW probably haven’t seen enough of Wollacott to fully judge, but he had a bit of stinker against Ross County and clearly Monty doesn’t think he’s better a option than Marsh despite his age.

[Northernhibee]

I mean we basically did go for someone younger and who we thought was better in Wollacott last summer. Recall we even spent a fee on him. The worry you have when replacing a competent goalie is if you **** up on recruitment it’s gonna cost you dearly when it comes to games won and lost.

FWIW probably haven’t seen enough of Wollacott to fully judge, but he had a bit of stinker against Ross County and clearly Monty doesn’t think he’s better a option than Marsh despite his age.

I think we seen more than enough of Wollacott against Ross County, he was absolutely horrendous. Hopefully be able to move him on or release him in the summer.

[Onceinawhile]

I thought he was very good last night and certainly didn't deserve to lose two goals.

That being said, I believe we can do better, and it's crucial that we do.

[Crab apple]

Marsh was good last night. I don't think Wollacott should be his successor.

[SlickShoes]

Marshall has been good now for most of the season, I’d keep him based on what our current other options are he’s very far ahead.

[BoomtownHibees]

He has bounced back remarkably well from a few months ago but why not go for somebody younger and better?

Do we just keep going until age completely catches up with him? My worry is that he's had to go off mid or pre game several times this season with minor issues.

How many games has he had to go off?

[Smartie]

The more I think about it, the more open I’d be to him being a one year extension. No doubt he was abysmal under LJ but I don’t blame him for that as much in hindsight

His experience is very useful and he still offers a lot.

I wanted him to retire this time last year, but IMO he’s earned it.

He's had a good season and played well last night.

I'd like him to stay on.

As a goalkeeper, he might yet have another 5 years in him, can't be writing folk off based on a number rather than evidence of a decline in performance.

[Keith_M]

He's had a good season and played well last night.

I'd like him to stay on.

As a goalkeeper, he might yet have another 5 years in him, can't be writing folk off based on a number rather than evidence of a decline in performance.


:agree:

Craig Gordon is a fantastic goalie, and is two years older than Marshall. I think he's a good example of how GKs can continue playing at a decent level much longer than outfield players.

[ancient hibee]

I think that the work he’s had to do to play the system Montgomery wants has sharpened up the rest of his game.Should get another year.

[Hiber-nation]

I think that the work he’s had to do to play the system Montgomery wants has sharpened up the rest of his game.Should get another year.

I'd put it down to a change of goalkeeping coach but that's a really good point.

[Shrekko]

How many games has he had to go off?

Livingston home
Hearts away
Aberdeen away

and think he pulled out of the Inter Club game pre match warm up.

[He's here!]

Thought he was excellent last night. Would be fine with him remaining as our first-choice keeper.

[CapitalGreen]

Would prefer someone who saves more shots. Hearts, St Mirren and Kilmarnock all have more proficient shop stoppers than us and all concede significantly less goals. Maybe a coincidence but the end of our excellent defensive record coincided with the signing of Marshall.

[wookie70]

I think he has been one of our best players since Montgomery came in. Very few errors and plenty saves. I'd like to see his stats under the last two managers as anecdotally he is a very different shot stopper. I'd have no issue as him being given another year but I would probably cut our losses with Wollocot and try and get someone whop would compete for the gloves like Clarke and Gordon. Same idea why having Stevenson as a squad player makes a lot of sense

[Smartie]

Would prefer someone who saves more shots. Hearts, St Mirren and Kilmarnock all have more proficient shop stoppers than us and all concede significantly less goals. Maybe a coincidence but the end of our excellent defensive record coincided with the signing of Marshall.

Don’t know if the stats bear it out but since Montgomery came in, subjectively I can’t think of many shots where I’ve questioned whether he might have got to a particular shot. Previously it seemed to be a weekly occurrence.

The whole defensive unit has looked better and we’ve been conceding less goals since the midfield was adequately improved and the shape tweaked.

[Frazerbob]

A poor first half to the season however he's been excellent the last couple of months. 100% give him a new deal. If we can get better then great, we'll have 2 good keepers.....like Hearts do.

[RIP]

I can't think of another keeper I'd rather have. Can anyone else?

[VoltaireHibs]

Definitely offer him another year, but as back up to a better keeper. That would be it as far as I'm concerned. He's going to get another year older, and goalies reflexes deteriorate exactly the same as any other persons.

He's really come onto a game in the last couple of months, but would like to see a keeper that can bring the ball out from the back and pass it out comfortably. I don't care if the guys 17 or 37, but our next keeper has to be good with the ball at his feet, it makes so much difference to how we can effectively play the NM system. Assuming NM is still here next year.

[Smartie]

Definitely offer him another year, but as back up to a better keeper. That would be it as far as I'm concerned. He's going to get another year older, and goalies reflexes deteriorate exactly the same as any other persons.

He's really come onto a game in the last couple of months, but would like to see a keeper that can bring the ball out from the back and pass it out comfortably. I don't care if the guys 17 or 37, but our next keeper has to be good with the ball at his feet, it makes so much difference to how we can effectively play the NM system. Assuming NM is still here next year.

I'd say that Marshall is generally pretty comfortable with the ball at his feet. Yes, he's made one or two mistakes over his time with us but I don't think this is an aspect of his game that concerns me.

[Winston Ingram]

We have to give him a new deal. He’s been excellent for the last few months

[VoltaireHibs]

I'd say that Marshall is generally pretty comfortable with the ball at his feet. Yes, he's made one or two mistakes over his time with us but I don't think this is an aspect of his game that concerns me.

He's not the worst, but he does look pretty nervy at times. I'm not in any way slating the guy, he's done a very decent job overall. But he ain't getting any younger. Time for fresh blood.

[MWHIBBIES]

No thanks. Can do better.

[Pretty Boy]

He's playing very well lately.

I suppose it just shows how important confidence is to a keeper. His was clearly at rock bottom and he was making the kind of silly decisions nervy keepers make. Now he has his head sorted he is making better decisions and his all round game is much improved.

[CapitalGreen]

Shouldn’t get anywhere near a new contract.

[brianmc]

Brutal

[berwickhibee]

Too many basic errors😢

[Heisenberg]

No chance he is our first choice next season.

[CathroMustStay]

Absolutely should not be #1 next season.

[MWHIBBIES]

Absolutely should not be #1 next season.

Shouldn't be number 2 either. He's crap.

Should've been dropped a year ago.

[blackpoolhibs]

I'm not convinced he's 100% to blame there, Obita comes in when he shouldnt have and flicked it away from Marshalls punch

[degenerated]

I'm not convinced he's 100% to blame there, Obita comes in when he shouldnt have and flicked it away from Marshalls punchObita left his man to get in everyone else's road there, if anyone is to blame there it's obita.

[JimBHibees]

I'm not convinced he's 100% to blame there, Obita comes in when he shouldnt have and flicked it away from Marshalls punch

100 per cent Obita why is he getting involved it was going straight to Marshall.

[JohnM1875]

Of course it's Marshalls fault. He'd have been shouting it was his and he totally ****ed it.

[CapitalGreen]

A goalkeeper who commands his area doesn’t constantly end up in situations like this. Our defence never know whether Marshall is gonna come or stick to his line.

[MrRobot]

Not convinced it was all Marshall’s fault tbh.

[RIP]

Last two games Obita has had a lobotomy.

Sold the jerseys on Sunday in such a brainless fashion. After being in the running for POTY too.

[Northernhibee]

Not convinced it was all Marshall’s fault tbh.

And after his first mistake in a while, he makes another good save.

[DH1875]

His save in injury time was world class to be fare.

[The Harp Awakes]

Not convinced it was all Marshall’s fault tbh.

Agreed. Marshall was getting to the ball and Obita for some reason thought it was a good idea to charge into him in the 6 yard box.

Great save from Murray. There's plenty wrong with the Manager and the team just now but Marshall is the least of our problems.

[Onceinawhile]

Agreed. Marshall was getting to the ball and Obita for some reason thought it was a good idea to charge into him in the 6 yard box.

Great save from Murray. There's plenty wrong with the Manager and the team just now but Marshall is the least of our problems.

He charged in because rocky hadn't looked over his shoulder and was nowhere near his man.

[MrRobot]

Agreed. Marshall was getting to the ball and Obita for some reason thought it was a good idea to charge into him in the 6 yard box.

Great save from Murray. There's plenty wrong with the Manager and the team just now but Marshall is the least of our problems.

great save from Murray, think he was poor at the equaliser though. the entire defence was.

[The Harp Awakes]

great save from Murray, think he was poor at the equaliser though. the entire defence was.

Danda mis-hit the shot and somehow it evaded 3 Hibs defenders in/near the 6 yard box who were in front of Marshall. A bit harsh to blame the GK there I'd say particularly when Youan sleeping, was the main cause of the goal - apart from the incompent/biased officials.

[GreenCastle]

I don’t understand why he doesn’t dive for the 2nd goal ? It’s not far away from him ?

Definitely need to improve next season in this area.

[Allyg69]

I don’t understand why he doesn’t dive for the 2nd goal ? It’s not far away from him ?

Definitely need to improve next season in this area.
Just watched the highlights and I thought exactly the same

[Mac_17]

He always seems very flat footed to me or has maybe a lack of focus at times. He has been far too inconsistent this season and should rightfully be benched.

I'd give him an extension but on the basis that he slowly moves into a coaching role, He has a lot of experience that he can pass on to younger keepers, plus he would be a decent second choice if the first choice gets injured.

[CapitalGreen]

I don’t understand why he doesn’t dive for the 2nd goal ? It’s not far away from him ?

Definitely need to improve next season in this area.

He no longer has the agility to deal with low down shots.

[GreenPJ]

I don’t understand why he doesn’t dive for the 2nd goal ? It’s not far away from him ?

Definitely need to improve next season in this area.

I think he was aware of the County boy in the middle of the goals who went to hit it and missed and so he hadn't wanted to commit to diving as if the boy had made contact it was completely open on Marshall's left. By the time the County boy missed it there was no time to react.

[seanshow]

The amount of goals we lose at the back post tap ins has to be more about positioning than bad luck.

And most of the other goals ,the goalie is nowhere standing looking stunned.

We need another Marciano for next season, ( if we can find one)
Then we'll see the difference
If anyone remembers the transformation from Oxley to Marciano you'll know what I'm on about

[Heisenberg]

Shocking for both goals last night. His attempt at saving the second goal was probably worse than whatever Fish tried to do on the line.

[The Modfather]

I'm not convinced he's 100% to blame there, Obita comes in when he shouldnt have and flicked it away from Marshalls punch

I think it highlights the heart of the issue. Any of the defenders or keeper should have gone through what was in front of him to clear the ball and answer questions after. Not all of them silently waiting to see if someone else would deal with it. If there was a breakdown in communication and they tackled each other trying to clear it I’d be a little more understanding.

[Ralphy C]

[QUOTE=MWHIBBIES;7612616]Shouldn't be number 2 either. He's crap.

Is that not the definition of a number 2?:greengrin

[Shrekko]

He always seems very flat footed to me

Been saying this for ages. Just because he's not letting in howlers as often recently doesn't mean there aren't some very worrying signs from him. I'm really surprised at how nervous he's often looked for a guy of his experience.

No doubt he's been much improved these past few months but I'm actually stunned reading things like we 'must' offer him a new contract. He's a good guy but we're not a charity.

[MrRobot]

Can’t just blame Marshall for the second. He was really poor for it but the entire defence is all over the place. It’s frightening how badly we seemed to switch off.