R☆☆☆☆☆s catholic players

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Looks like the majority of these mutants cross themselves when entering the field of play, wonder what they think of the **** singing about their religion?

[MWHIBBIES]

They couldn't care less as long as they get paid.

Even some on here have said they would join that club for enough money.

[DaveF]

Looks like the majority of these mutants cross themselves when entering the field of play, wonder what they think of the **** singing about their religion?

They don't care one bit.

[BILLYHIBS]

I remember Marco Negri saying he could not believe the anti catholic culture at the club did not know what he was getting into

Happy to take the orange pound though

I remember Alex Ferguson writing in one of his books saying he was treated like a pariah for marrying a Catholic and wishes he had made a stronger stand

Horrible despicable club

Time for Hibernian FC to grow a pair and ban their toxic fans from our beautiful Stadium

[monarch]

Apparently they now don’t mind foreign catholics.

Their current venom is directed at Irish or descendants of Irish catholics. Their club’s signing policy would seem to align to that. Off the top of my head I can’t recall them signing an Irish catholic.

[Brizo]

Apparently they now don’t mind foreign catholics.

Their current venom is directed at Irish or descendants of Irish catholics. Their club’s signing policy would seem to align to that. Off the top of my head I can’t recall them signing an Irish catholic.

I'm pretty sure Neil McCann and Michael O'Halloran came from that background but not a lot signed from a community thats always made up a sizeable proportion of Scottish professional players. In terms of the direction of their hatred its very much people with Irish-Catholic backgrounds or ignorantly perceived to be from that background because of who they support. Words like "Fenian", "taig" and "tarrier" are specifically anti Irish-Catholic.

[Smartie]

I'm pretty sure Neil McCann and Michael O'Halloran came from that background but not a lot. In terms of the direction of their hatred its very much people with Irish-Catholic backgrounds or ignorantly perceived to be from that background because of who they support. Words like "Fenian", "taig" and "tarrier" are specifically anti Irish-Catholic.

Jon Daly?

[Brizo]

Jon Daly?

Yes forgot about him

[BILLYHIBS]

Mo Johnston

[marinello59]

Apparently they now don’t mind foreign catholics.

Their current venom is directed at Irish or descendants of Irish catholics. Their club’s signing policy would seem to align to that. Off the top of my head I can’t recall them signing an Irish catholic.

Neil Lennon succinctly called it for what it actually is. Racism.

[Smartie]

Neil Lennon succinctly called it for what it actually is. Racism.

I’m amazed that - to date - he’s been the only one who has actually ever had the balls to call it out for what it was / is.

Fair play to him.

It’s pretty uncomfortable that 21st century Scotland allows an overtly racist institution to exist and thrive in plain sight.

[The Harp Awakes]

Unfortunately Scottish society is riddled with these mutants which is why the Rangers and their fans always have in the past, and always will in the future get away with their racism week after week.

When you think back over the last 50 years there's been so much progress across the world in having zero tolerance towards racism and prejudice.

Sadly Scotland is like the Land that Time Forgot.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

I like a bit of hyperbole now and again, and have no compunction in calling them all out as neo-Nazi white supremists.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Mo Johnston

Aye, season tickets set on fire and supporters buses cancelled by those maniacs.

[CropleyWasGod]

I'm pretty sure Neil McCann and Michael O'Halloran came from that background but not a lot signed from a community thats always made up a sizeable proportion of Scottish professional players. In terms of the direction of their hatred its very much people with Irish-Catholic backgrounds or ignorantly perceived to be from that background because of who they support. Words like "Fenian", "taig" and "tarrier" are specifically anti Irish-Catholic.

"Fenian" isn't, though. The Fenian Brotherhood was a republican, rather than a Catholic, organisation, with many prominent Protestant members.

That it was been twisted into what it is now (has anyone ever heard the word without "*******"?) says so much about their collective ignorance.


I recently heard, for the first time, the expression "bouncy-castle Catholics", which made me chuckle. There must be a similar term for these 90-minute Proddies.

[Stevie Reid]

I remember Marco Negri saying he could not believe the anti catholic culture at the club did not know what he was getting into

Happy to take the orange pound though

I remember Alex Ferguson writing in one of his books saying he was treated like a pariah for marrying a Catholic and wishes he had made a stronger stand

Horrible despicable club

Time for Hibernian FC to grow a pair and ban their toxic fans from our beautiful Stadium

I’m sure once Negri realised what was going on fully, he barely celebrated scoring for Rangers, just shaking hands with his team mates.

[DH1875]

I’m sure once Negri realised what was going on fully, he barely celebrated scoring for Rangers, just shaking hands with his team mates.

You should check him out nowadays. Has thrown any credibility he had back then right out the window.

[DH1875]

Each to their own but I've never got the rangers fans who are catholic or have married into a catholic family and then come out with all this crap.

[Carheenlea]

Mo Johnston

A great bunch of lads.


https://youtu.be/2rf4BIXJ8_g?si=F7qCiPdv1qPhm9Ie

A long time ago now, granted, but while the sectarian signing policy has long been disposed with, they’ve not really moved on very far from this bitter hatred in the 35 years that have since passed.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Each to their own but I've never got the rangers fans who are catholic or have married into a catholic family and then come out with all this crap.

Never met a Catholic Rangers fan, it seems so contrasting. Like a Jewish Nazi, it just doesn’t make sense in my mind. They despise us and all like us, they make it perfectly clear, why would you want to be associated with that if you’re a Catholic?


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[Bostonhibby]

Never met a Catholic Rangers fan, it seems so contrasting. Like a Jewish Nazi, it just doesn’t make sense in my mind. They despise us and all like us, they make it perfectly clear, why would you want to be associated with that if you’re a Catholic?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI know one well, cross between an oxymoron and an ordinary moron.

Edinburgh born, when his daughter wanted to go to a football match he took her to Easter road because he didn't want to expose her to any of the sectarian singing.

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[eastmainsmsh]

Remember Amoruso conducted the bile when Findlay was up chanting at awards night

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

I know one well, cross between an oxymoron and an ordinary moron.

Edinburgh born, when his daughter wanted to go to a football match he took her to Easter road because he didn't want to expose her to any of the sectarian singing.

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Jesus wept


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[Bostonhibby]

Jesus wept


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkStarted out as a glory hunter.

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[Vini1875]

Never met a Catholic Rangers fan, it seems so contrasting. Like a Jewish Nazi, it just doesn’t make sense in my mind. They despise us and all like us, they make it perfectly clear, why would you want to be associated with that if you’re a Catholic?


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Funnily enough there are plenty of them in Glasgow. I don't know how Catholic of course, but I know a wee guy who made his Holy Communion in a rangers tartan kilt. Many people come from Catholic families but support the team their mates support. I'm sure they don't shout about at ibrox and consider the bigotry to come from only a minority.

[Sloop67]

I remember Marco Negri saying he could not believe the anti catholic culture at the club did not know what he was getting into

Happy to take the orange pound though

I remember Alex Ferguson writing in one of his books saying he was treated like a pariah for marrying a Catholic and wishes he had made a stronger stand

Horrible despicable club

Time for Hibernian FC to grow a pair and ban their toxic fans from our beautiful Stadium

They asked him wheather his marriage took place in a chapel or a registery office, when he he told them it was the later , they said " that's ok then " , he said that he should have told them to ****** off and felt he had let his wife down. My dad always says the never got the manager's job at Ibrox because he married a catholic

[ancient hibee]

They asked him wheather his marriage took place in a chapel or a registery office, when he he told them it was the later , they said " that's ok then " , he said that he should have told them to ****** off and felt he had let his wife down. My dad always says the never got the manager's job at Ibrox because he married a catholic

He never got the job at Ibrox because he told them where to put it.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Funnily enough there are plenty of them in Glasgow. I don't know how Catholic of course, but I know a wee guy who made his Holy Communion in a rangers tartan kilt. Many people come from Catholic families but support the team their mates support. I'm sure they don't shout about at ibrox and consider the bigotry to come from only a minority.

Weirdos. That wee laddie should’ve been given a million Hail Marys as penance.


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[Brizo]

"Fenian" isn't, though. The Fenian Brotherhood was a republican, rather than a Catholic, organisation, with many prominent Protestant members.

That it was been twisted into what it is now (has anyone ever heard the word without "*******"?) says so much about their collective ignorance.


I recently heard, for the first time, the expression "bouncy-castle Catholics", which made me chuckle. There must be a similar term for these 90-minute Proddies.

I'm fully aware of the historical context of the word "Fenian" and that many of its members were Protestants.

I'm also fully aware that language changes over the centuries and that in the 20th and 21st centuries, it's become a term of abuse used by fans of The Rangers towards anyone of, or perceived to be of , Irish Catholic heritage.

[CropleyWasGod]

I'm fully aware of the historical context of the word "Fenian" and that many of its members were Protestants.

I'm also fully aware that language changes over the centuries and that in the 20th and 21st centuries, it's become a term of abuse used by fans of The Rangers towards anyone of, or perceived to be of , Irish Catholic heritage.

Sorry, I wasn't having a go at you or your post. Apologies if it came across that way.

It was more about my frustration at the hijacking of the word for their own ends. Like I say, it's never used on its own; it always has an actual abusive word tacked on.

[matty_f]

I genuinely struggle with how reasonable, intelligent, good people can support Rangers in good conscience. Would you want to be associated with a club that is knee-deep in anti-Catholic (or anti-anything, really) hatred. You know that, by association, people think you are a bigot. You know that you are paying into it, condoning it and perpetuating the hatred. You validate it with your ongoing support.

Just how could you? Many posters have rightly asked what if anti-Catholic hatred was treated the same as racism, would you follow a team that was widely accepted to be known for being anti-black, for example? Most reasonable people would go to every effort to condemn that and disassociate themselves with it.

But Rangers fans lap it up. The club itself laps it up with their weird royal family paintings in the dressing room, the Armed Forces Day stuff, the sashes on the strip... they absolutely play on it because it makes them money.

[One Day Soon]

I genuinely struggle with how reasonable, intelligent, good people can support Rangers in good conscience. Would you want to be associated with a club that is knee-deep in anti-Catholic (or anti-anything, really) hatred. You know that, by association, people think you are a bigot. You know that you are paying into it, condoning it and perpetuating the hatred. You validate it with your ongoing support.

Just how could you? Many posters have rightly asked what if anti-Catholic hatred was treated the same as racism, would you follow a team that was widely accepted to be known for being anti-black, for example? Most reasonable people would go to every effort to condemn that and disassociate themselves with it.

But Rangers fans lap it up. The club itself laps it up with their weird royal family paintings in the dressing room, the Armed Forces Day stuff, the sashes on the strip... they absolutely play on it because it makes them money.

The Ugly Sisters: over a century of making money from misery. https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?365989-Hibernian-statement-on-away-supporters/page6

[ancient hibee]

I genuinely struggle with how reasonable, intelligent, good people can support Rangers in good conscience. Would you want to be associated with a club that is knee-deep in anti-Catholic (or anti-anything, really) hatred. You know that, by association, people think you are a bigot. You know that you are paying into it, condoning it and perpetuating the hatred. You validate it with your ongoing support.

Just how could you? Many posters have rightly asked what if anti-Catholic hatred was treated the same as racism, would you follow a team that was widely accepted to be known for being anti-black, for example? Most reasonable people would go to every effort to condemn that and disassociate themselves with it.

But Rangers fans lap it up. The club itself laps it up with their weird royal family paintings in the dressing room, the Armed Forces Day stuff, the sashes on the strip... they absolutely play on it because it makes them money.

A strange take on it. Why do you associate the royal family and the armed forces with bigoted anti Catholicism.

[Kato]

A strange take on it. Why do you associate the royal family and the armed forces with bigoted anti Catholicism.One is an anti-catholic institution and the is perceived to be after the years of the troubles in Ireland?

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[KWJ]

Made the mistake of having a glance at FF to see if any of them were showing humanity towards Boyle (a few were fighting against the tide, take my hat off to them), most weren't and some were under the impression that he was roundly applauded off the park. I mind while watching live that I only saw 3 people in the lower deck clapping. I heard about the singing afterwards.

But what's the point in conversing with any of them when they allow a member to have the name "UpToMyKnees".

[Kato]

There is no point. If any Rangers fan came out in public against their clubs "culture" they'd need 24 police protection. So any decent conversation is never going to happen.

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[ErinGoBraghHFC]

A strange take on it. Why do you associate the royal family and the armed forces with bigoted anti Catholicism.

The armed forces are and have been, by and large anti (Irish) Catholicism. Their actions since 1919 have consistently shown that.


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[heidtheba]

I remember reading about Basile Boli. He said I didn't realise what it was like, or why they wanted him or how he was expected to fit in. He said he heard the stories and the 'songs' and saw the picture of the Queen in the changing room and thought "What is a black, French, Catholic, republican' doing here?!"

I'm pretty sure Alex Ferguson's documentary talks about his regret not being telling them to 'bolt' when someone (IIRC) suggested he'd not progess well due to having a Catholic wife.

[WeeRussell]

I genuinely struggle with how reasonable, intelligent, good people can support Rangers in good conscience. Would you want to be associated with a club that is knee-deep in anti-Catholic (or anti-anything, really) hatred. You know that, by association, people think you are a bigot. You know that you are paying into it, condoning it and perpetuating the hatred. You validate it with your ongoing support.

Was making a similar point after the game to friends, Matty. Even for those that have just ‘grown up as rangers fans’ and never got involved in any of that ****. Surely it must be embarrassing to have your team associated in any way with that sort of hatred. Never mind the whole club being formed and maintained through it.

[superfurryhibby]

I'm fully aware of the historical context of the word "Fenian" and that many of its members were Protestants.

I'm also fully aware that language changes over the centuries and that in the 20th and 21st centuries, it's become a term of abuse used by fans of The Rangers towards anyone of, or perceived to be of , Irish Catholic heritage.


Can't agree with the Irish Catholic heritage part. Going by social media, these terms are randomly applied to anyone who criticises their horrible club, Catholic, Irish origin or otherwise.

[matty_f]

A strange take on it. Why do you associate the royal family and the armed forces with bigoted anti Catholicism.

For me it’s less about what they represent than what Rangers fans believe they represent. They lean into the Armed Forces Day stuff because of Ireland’s troubles and because the royal family are seen as the enemy by many of the people they profess to hate.

[Smartie]

I genuinely struggle with how reasonable, intelligent, good people can support Rangers in good conscience. Would you want to be associated with a club that is knee-deep in anti-Catholic (or anti-anything, really) hatred. You know that, by association, people think you are a bigot. You know that you are paying into it, condoning it and perpetuating the hatred. You validate it with your ongoing support.

Just how could you? Many posters have rightly asked what if anti-Catholic hatred was treated the same as racism, would you follow a team that was widely accepted to be known for being anti-black, for example? Most reasonable people would go to every effort to condemn that and disassociate themselves with it.

But Rangers fans lap it up. The club itself laps it up with their weird royal family paintings in the dressing room, the Armed Forces Day stuff, the sashes on the strip... they absolutely play on it because it makes them money.

I think you probably come from the West of Scotland and fall in love with the same beautiful game as we all did, wanting to run about a park pretending to be Davie Cooper or Brian Laudrup or Todd Cantwell or whoever.

At some point down the road comes 17th century Irish politics, hating catholics and all the rest of it.

In my experience it's perfectly possible to be from the West, take the bits of supporting the club you like and leave the rest of it. Those from the rest of the country tend to get involved with the club in the first place because they're attracted to all the crap for some reason.

I know decent Rangers fans and tbh I'm as likely to bump up close to the boundaries of acceptability in conversations with them as they are. A big difference would be that they'd be more likely to condone, defend or downplay the unacceptable conduct of fellow fans, whereas I've got no desire whatsoever to defend folk singing about the Ibrox disaster or the like.

[hibsbollah]

Ive just seen that the Europa league final is going to be held in Dublin of all places.

If they actually reach the final…the mind boggles.

[matty_f]

I think you probably come from the West of Scotland and fall in love with the same beautiful game as we all did, wanting to run about a park pretending to be Davie Cooper or Brian Laudrup or Todd Cantwell or whoever.

At some point down the road comes 17th century Irish politics, hating catholics and all the rest of it.

In my experience it's perfectly possible to be from the West, take the bits of supporting the club you like and leave the rest of it. Those from the rest of the country tend to get involved with the club in the first place because they're attracted to all the crap for some reason.

I know decent Rangers fans and tbh I'm as likely to bump up close to the boundaries of acceptability in conversations with them as they are. A big difference would be that they'd be more likely to condone, defend or downplay the unacceptable conduct of fellow fans, whereas I've got no desire whatsoever to defend folk singing about the Ibrox disaster or the like.

I get that, but there’s a point where as grown ups we realise the rights and wrongs of what we’re buying into and what we’re associated with, and then still choosing to be seen as that.

I always imagine it being like American History X but instead of realising the views are abhorrent and distancing yourself from them, you go “but the social life is good” so I’ll stick with these neo-nazi backward gimps.

[superfurryhibby]

Ive just seen that the Europa league final is going to be held in Dublin of all places.

If they actually reach the final…the mind boggles.

That would be......unimaginable.

They won't get there though :greengrin

My wee brother, baptised, he started supporting Rangers at the start of the Souness era. He was taken through to Ibrox by some pal of his and their dad, that was the wee bam hooked on huns.
He was only about twelve, but even then......

[Baader]

A strange take on it. Why do you associate the royal family and the armed forces with bigoted anti Catholicism.

Probably because they are?

[Brizo]

Can't agree with the Irish Catholic heritage part. Going by social media, these terms are randomly applied to anyone who criticises their horrible club, Catholic, Irish origin or otherwise.

Agree that anyone who disagrees with their worldview is no doubt labelled a "fenian" including the majority of Hibs fans who I'd guess are atheist or Protestant. If however your suggesting that when used by The Rangers supporters against us it's not because of our origins and their ignorant perception of what constitutes a Hibs fan then we'll need to disagree on that.

[Smartie]

I get that, but there’s a point where as grown ups we realise the rights and wrongs of what we’re buying into and what we’re associated with, and then still choosing to be seen as that.

I always imagine it being like American History X but instead of realising the views are abhorrent and distancing yourself from them, you go “but the social life is good” so I’ll stick with these neo-nazi backward gimps.

Worth realising though that their world view probably sees the life of a Hibs supporter as being that of an IRA sympathiser who likes mocking the Ibrox disaster, enjoys assaulting Rangers players on the Hampden pitch and chucks corkscrews about, not believing that there are any decent folk amongst us as surely at some point decent folk wake up to this nonsense and choose to do something else?

[Malthibby]

I like a bit of hyperbole now and again, and have no compunction in calling them all out as neo-Nazi white supremists.

That's euphemism, that is......

[Malthibby]

A strange take on it. Why do you associate the royal family and the armed forces with bigoted anti Catholicism.


I'm an atheist myself but I think it's reasonable for Catholics to doubt an institution which specifically bars Catholics from the top job.

[matty_f]

Worth realising though that their world view probably sees the life of a Hibs supporter as being that of an IRA sympathiser who likes mocking the Ibrox disaster, enjoys assaulting Rangers players on the Hampden pitch and chucks corkscrews about, not believing that there are any decent folk amongst us as surely at some point decent folk wake up to this nonsense and choose to do something else?

I get that as well, however the evidence tells us as Hibs fans that those guys are the tiny minority of the support, those things aren’t ingrained in the club. That’s very different to what the evidence tells Rangers fans about Rangers fans.

[Smartie]

I get that as well, however the evidence tells us as Hibs fans that those guys are the tiny minority of the support, those things aren’t ingrained in the club. That’s very different to what the evidence tells Rangers fans about Rangers fans.

The thing about Rangers fans though is that there are absolutely loads of them. Millions. When there's so many, it's harder than ever to generalise.

Amongst that huge number there is an incredibly vocal section, who knows how large it is. Even if it actually is a minority, it is massive.

There were fans applauding Boyle off the pitch in their end. There were probably thousands at home muttering about it being bang out of order that the song that was being sung was being sung (even if only because they knew it might come back and bite them). There will have been others revelling in the occasion.

They're an odd bunch for sure, but I've met enough decent ones (a fair few over the years who have actually even been to ER in my company to watch games not involving Rangers, in the Hibs end - something I wouldn't be reciprocating at Ibrox) to make me uncomfortable about questioning the very existence of decent Rangers fans.

Not to say that I don't question that for a couple of days in the aftermath of every single Rangers Hibs game right enough.

[Kato]

I remember reading about Basile Boli. He said I didn't realise what it was like, or why they wanted him or how he was expected to fit in. He said he heard the stories and the 'songs' and saw the picture of the Queen in the changing room and thought "What is a black, French, Catholic, republican' doing here?!"

I'm pretty sure Alex Ferguson's documentary talks about his regret not being telling them to 'bolt' when someone (IIRC) suggested he'd not progess well due to having a Catholic wife.Alex McLeish said he was disgusted with Rangers' sectarianism and wanted nothing to do with it before being poached by them behind Hibs backs and taking up the post as their manager.

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[Carheenlea]

Agree that anyone who disagrees with their worldview is no doubt labelled a "fenian" including the majority of Hibs fans who I'd guess are atheist or Protestant. If however your suggesting that when used by The Rangers supporters against us it's not because of our origins and their ignorant perception of what constitutes a Hibs fan then we'll need to disagree on that.

The first time I ever heard the word fenian was when I was called one by an older Hearts fan. I had to look the word up in the dictionary as I wasn’t sure what it meant, and even after learning the word I was still scratching my head as to why I was labelled as such with being neither catholic, Irish or republican. Soon became obvious that it was just a generic term used as to insult Celtic or Hibs fans, regardless of whether anyone came from Irish catholic backgrounds or not.

The same kind of imbeciles who refer to anyone of darker skin to themselves as a “Paki” regardless of their cultural heritage.

[WeeRussell]

The thing about Rangers fans though is that there are absolutely loads of them. Millions. When there's so many, it's harder than ever to generalise.

Amongst that huge number there is an incredibly vocal section, who knows how large it is. Even if it actually is a minority, it is massive.

There were fans applauding Boyle off the pitch in their end. There were probably thousands at home muttering about it being bang out of order that the song that was being sung was being sung (even if only because they knew it might come back and bite them). There will have been others revelling in the occasion.

They're an odd bunch for sure, but I've met enough decent ones (a fair few over the years who have actually even been to ER in my company to watch games not involving Rangers, in the Hibs end - something I wouldn't be reciprocating at Ibrox) to make me uncomfortable about questioning the very existence of decent Rangers fans.

Not to say that I don't question that for a couple of days in the aftermath of every single Rangers Hibs game right enough.

It’s definitely not a vocal minority that are coming and singing bigoted songs at Easter road. Every single time.

Out of interest Smartie, do any of your rangers pals actively ‘disagree’ with or condemn the nonsense, or is it more that they don’t get involved in it?

Out of all the Rangers fans I’ve ever met in my life, I’ve met a few that claim to not be interested it or involved (some of them I know to be truthful in that regard), but I easily could count on one hand the amount that are or have been rangers fans and make it clear they completely disapprove of it.

[Smartie]

It’s definitely not a vocal minority that are coming and singing bigoted songs at Easter road. Every single time.

I know it’s not.

But I’d probably suggest that of the Rangers support as a whole, the ones who would want and be able to get tickets for games at Easter Road are likely to be the most fetid, repulsive headbanger element of their support.

The more reasonable ones will probably be watching from home.

[WeeRussell]

I know it’s not.

But I’d probably suggest that of the Rangers support as a whole, the ones who would want and be able to get tickets for games at Easter Road are likely to be the most fetid, repulsive headbanger element of their support.

The more reasonable ones will probably be watching from home.

Edited my post to expand mate - wasn’t meant to come across as snippy towards you 👍

[Smartie]

It’s definitely not a vocal minority that are coming and singing bigoted songs at Easter road. Every single time.

Out of interest Smartie, do any of your rangers pals actively ‘disagree’ with or condemn the nonsense, or is it more that they don’t get involved in it?

Out of all the Rangers fans I’ve ever met in my life, I’ve met a few that claim to not be interested it or involved (some of them I know to be truthful in that regard), but I easily could count on one hand the amount that are or have been rangers fans and make it clear they completely disapprove of it.

Sorry - just saw edit.

I know loads, some claim not to be interested, some claim to be against it, some I believe, some I don’t.

There’s also that weird West coast thing that’s hard to get your head around - where there’s a very thin line between hatred, humour and affection. They sort of hate each other but also love each other and thrive on the “banter” - very weird as an outsider looking in and weird when it’s exported elsewhere.

[DH1875]

Liverpool V the rangers in Dublin.

[JimBHibees]

Ive just seen that the Europa league final is going to be held in Dublin of all places.

If they actually reach the final…the mind boggles.

Yes they were singing about it on Sunday.

[hibsbollah]

Liverpool V the rangers in Dublin.

West Ham or Marseille vs The Rangers would at least see them get a taste of their own medicine. I would fear for the good folk of Dublin mind you.

[superfurryhibby]

Agree that anyone who disagrees with their worldview is no doubt labelled a "fenian" including the majority of Hibs fans who I'd guess are atheist or Protestant. If however your suggesting that when used by The Rangers supporters against us it's not because of our origins and their ignorant perception of what constitutes a Hibs fan then we'll need to disagree on that.

I agree that they perceive Hibs as a club of Irish Catholic origin, but my (poorly made) point is that they call anyone (they don't know which club you support) who disagrees with them on any social media platform a tarrier, taig , fenian. If you're not with them, your against them.

[Johnny Clash]

Just watched on tv how the Bournemouth fans/players/staff reacted when a Luton player had a cardiac arrest on the pitch. After lengthy treatment he was carried off to hospital. These fans behaved with humanity, showed concern and applauded the opposition player. The game was abandoned and the replay is tonight - hence the tv coverage. If ever there was an example of two extremes then this is it. What kind of diseased mind would chant for the death of a seriously injured opposition player?

[The Modfather]

I think you probably come from the West of Scotland and fall in love with the same beautiful game as we all did, wanting to run about a park pretending to be Davie Cooper or Brian Laudrup or Todd Cantwell or whoever.

At some point down the road comes 17th century Irish politics, hating catholics and all the rest of it.

In my experience it's perfectly possible to be from the West, take the bits of supporting the club you like and leave the rest of it. Those from the rest of the country tend to get involved with the club in the first place because they're attracted to all the crap for some reason.

I know decent Rangers fans and tbh I'm as likely to bump up close to the boundaries of acceptability in conversations with them as they are. A big difference would be that they'd be more likely to condone, defend or downplay the unacceptable conduct of fellow fans, whereas I've got no desire whatsoever to defend folk singing about the Ibrox disaster or the like.

I’ve got similar experiences. Worked with two guys that travelled through from the west around the time we won the cup. Both good guys. One of them text me not long after the final whistle congratulating me and also advising me to be careful when I said we were drinking champagne in the merchant city to celebrate. The other, as well as my manager in my last role, were both a bit more of Jack the lad types. Neither had a bad bone in their body but I could quite easily see them engaging in the kind of “banter” that outside of the west coast bubble would be archaic to us but harmless in their context.

One of my friends, who I mainly see now to take the kids out, is also a Rangers die hard. As in goes every week, including Europe, and was one of their 900 odd in Dortmund a few years ago. A more placid and decent man you won’t meet. Football happens to be his passion, a glory hunter from Peebles I might add, but I’d put my mortgage on him not getting involved in any of the nonsense. I suspect his experience would be similar to games at Tynecastle or Hampden. There to watch the football but we have to put up with the coked up neds and those paralytic with drink and make the best of it. He probably has to do that most weeks, certainly away games, and his passion for going to the football overrides what must be a fairly grim experience given he drives and is stone cold sober at games.

[Kato]

I agree that they perceive Hibs as a club of Irish Catholic origin, but my (poorly made) point is that they call anyone (they don't know which club you support) who disagrees with them on any social media platform a tarrier, taig , fenian. If you're not with them, your against them.We are a club with Irish Catholic origins. That's a part of history. The point being it's history. The club has way more facets to it now.


They have a myopic and very narrow viewpoint where everything is seen through their bigoted, moronic prism so they define everyone, ever connected with Hibs wholly by our origins.

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[VoltaireHibs]

We are a club with Irish Catholic origins. That's a part of history. The point being its history. The club has way more facets to it now.


They have a myopic and very narrow viewpoint where everything is seen through their bigoted, moronic prism so they define everyone, ever connected with Hibs wholly by our origins.

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They just see the colour green and think - bad/Fenian. There isn't any real thought behind it. They aren't generally capable of that.

They have totally normalised sectarianism in what posters above have called the 'Glasgow bubble'. This is normal life to them. They can conceive of no other way.

[Kato]

They just see the colour green and think - bad/Fenian. There isn't any real thought behind it. They aren't generally capable of that.

They have totally normalised sectarianism in what posters above have called the 'Glasgow bubble'. This is normal life to them. They can conceive of no other way.Knee-Jerk clowns.

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[Keith_M]

Here's a question to those who have friends that are 'decent Rangers Fans'.


If there was a sporting institution, of any kind, where at least 50% of attendees regularly sang songs about their hatred of black people, used disgustingly racists terms to describe them, and the club they supported not only made no attempt to condone such behaviour, but in fact went into total outrage against anybody that did call it out... or even dared to mentioned it.


...would you still think anyone that supported that club was basically a 'decent person'?


No need to reply, just think about it.

[Kato]

Here's a question to those who have friends that are 'decent Rangers Fans'.


If there was a sporting institution, of any kind, where at least 50% of attendees regularly sang songs about their hatred of black people, used disgustingly racists terms to describe them, and the club they supported not only made no attempt to condone such behaviour, but in fact went into total outrage against anybody that did call it out... or even dared to mentioned it.


...would you still think anyone that supported that club was basically a 'decent person'?


No need to reply, just think about it.Yup, I don't get it as well and I reckon a lot of rangers fans who come across as "decent" hide their bigoted lamp under a bushel.

Do they like a sing-song at the football? If so, I wonder what songs they join in with as I can't think of a song they sing about football.

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[CropleyWasGod]

This is nice of them.

https://www.thenational.scot/sport/24182165.rangers-announce-ramadan-plans-fans-benfica-game/

Next time we visit, will they lay on some communion wine, potatoes and smack for us?

[CropleyWasGod]

West Ham or Marseille vs The Rangers would at least see them get a taste of their own medicine. I would fear for the good folk of Dublin mind you.

They're talking about having a fanzone in Croke Park.

Croke Park, with all its bloody history and current status as the home of Gaelic sports.

Not a pleasant thought........

[Carheenlea]

Here's a question to those who have friends that are 'decent Rangers Fans'.


If there was a sporting institution, of any kind, where at least 50% of attendees regularly sang songs about their hatred of black people, used disgustingly racists terms to describe them, and the club they supported not only made no attempt to condone such behaviour, but in fact went into total outrage against anybody that did call it out... or even dared to mentioned it.


...would you still think anyone that supported that club was basically a 'decent person'?


No need to reply, just think about it.

I’d guess everyone in here who has friends on here who are Rangers fans tolerate it because of the fact you’ve been friends a long time. The friends I have who are ST holding Rangers fans have been friends since our childhoods.

The chances of making a new friend who is a Rangers fan is very slim indeed. Non existent in fact.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

West Ham or Marseille vs The Rangers would at least see them get a taste of their own medicine. I would fear for the good folk of Dublin mind you.

As much as I hate to say it, it's more likely to be a love in if it's West Ham v Rangers. 🤬

[Potty78]

I’ve got similar experiences. Worked with two guys that travelled through from the west around the time we won the cup. Both good guys. One of them text me not long after the final whistle congratulating me and also advising me to be careful when I said we were drinking champagne in the merchant city to celebrate. The other, as well as my manager in my last role, were both a bit more of Jack the lad types. Neither had a bad bone in their body but I could quite easily see them engaging in the kind of “banter” that outside of the west coast bubble would be archaic to us but harmless in their context.

One of my friends, who I mainly see now to take the kids out, is also a Rangers die hard. As in goes every week, including Europe, and was one of their 900 odd in Dortmund a few years ago. A more placid and decent man you won’t meet. Football happens to be his passion, a glory hunter from Peebles I might add, but I’d put my mortgage on him not getting involved in any of the nonsense. I suspect his experience would be similar to games at Tynecastle or Hampden. There to watch the football but we have to put up with the coked up neds and those paralytic with drink and make the best of it. He probably has to do that most weeks, certainly away games, and his passion for going to the football overrides what must be a fairly grim experience given he drives and is stone cold sober at games.

I don't know any decent rangers fans from Peebles 😀

[LewysGot2]

I don't know any decent rangers fans from Peebles 😀

Kevin Thomson :wink:

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

They're talking about having a fanzone in Croke Park.

Croke Park, with all its bloody history and current status as the home of Gaelic sports.

Not a pleasant thought........

That wouldn’t end well…


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[hibsbollah]

As much as I hate to say it, it's more likely to be a love in if it's West Ham v Rangers. 🤬

Really? I assumed because of the Chelsea- Rangers links there might be some beef. Perhaps not.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Really? I assumed because of the Chelsea- Rangers links there might be some beef. Perhaps not.

I've been in a few "West Ham" pubs where the songs have veered in that direction, nowhere near the same extent as The Hun songbook right enough.