To those who think Scottish football isn't corrupt

[we are hibs]

They're laughing at you.


You gullible idiots

[SteveHFC]

Just walk off the pitch Hibs.

[Keith_M]

:agree:


I honestly don't know why we even bother turning up any more.

[Northernhibee]

Just walk off the pitch Hibs.

Genuinely think I might be done with it.

[Keith_M]

Just walk off the pitch Hibs.


I'll get pelters for this but...

the fans should invade the pitch and have a sit in, get the game abandoned.


What is the ******ng point any more?

[lyonhibs]

Poor choice of game to go for that. This has been self inflicted idiocy. Obita has been off it by a mile since minute 1 and that is a brain donor of a challenge from NMW.

[we are hibs]

You're apart of the problem.

[hibee_girl]

It’s the same every single time we play the old firm now. We’ve got no chance against them.

[Ozyhibby]

This is a terrible performance from Hibs with idiotic decision making.
Obita made contact in the box by getting the wrong side of the man. It’s a penalty. Soft but it’s the right decision.
The sending of is on Monty because he should have been subbed. You put your hand on another players face then there is a chance you pick up a yellow.
Some of the crying on here is childish.


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[Stuart93]

Our club needs to do something about it

If it continues like this it’s going to start effecting our attendances/ST sales.

It’s completely pointless

[lyonhibs]

This is a terrible performance from Hibs with idiotic decision making.
Obita made contact in the box by getting the wrong side of the man. It’s a penalty. Soft but it’s the right decision.
The sending of is on Monty because he should have been subbed. You put your hand on another players face then there is a chance you pick up a yellow.
Some of the crying on here is childish.


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Phew, thought it was just me 😅

[brianmc]

Poor choice of game to go for that. This has been self inflicted idiocy. Obita has been off it by a mile since minute 1 and that is a brain donor of a challenge from NMW.

I agree.

[Chorley Hibee]

This is a terrible performance from Hibs with idiotic decision making.
Obita made contact in the box by getting the wrong side of the man. It’s a penalty. Soft but it’s the right decision.
The sending of is on Monty because he should have been subbed. You put your hand on another players face then there is a chance you pick up a yellow.
Some of the crying on here is childish.


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Contact isn't necessarily a foul.

There's zero chance he gives that down the other end.

It's corruption, and it's no ****ing wonder thousands can't be arsed with these fixtures any longer.

[Jim44]

Poor choice of game to go for that. This has been self inflicted idiocy. Obita has been off it by a mile since minute 1 and that is a brain donor of a challenge from NMW.

You’re right. We were our own downfall, but you don’t mention one iota of the disgraceful root of the problem. Plenty of punters here can see the disgraceful refereeing and clearly quite a few of our players are capable of sensing corruption and incompetence. It is so bad that they have been pushed over the edge. I’m not condoning it but understand it.

[BoltonHibee]

Rangers should’ve been down to 10 for the high boot on Fish early in first half


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[.Sean.]

I think we’ll be calling this blatant cheating out again

I’d also be calling out the incessant sectarian pish and telling them tonight their allocation is cut going forward

**** Rangers and doubly **** the cheating ***** at the SFA. Beyond seek

[-Jonesy-]

This is a terrible performance from Hibs with idiotic decision making.
Obita made contact in the box by getting the wrong side of the man. It’s a penalty. Soft but it’s the right decision.
The sending of is on Monty because he should have been subbed. You put your hand on another players face then there is a chance you pick up a yellow.
Some of the crying on here is childish.


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If that’s the case why didn’t we get a pen when marcondes got a soft touch in the back and went down in the box?

[Murphys Touch]

For me - we’d be furious if we did not get a pen there

Obita been asking for it

NMW - yellow card but you’ve being wreckless when the game got a bit out of control. I think the ref could have taken his time and maybe booked him and I don’t think VAR would have changed it. I understand why he’s sent him off though

More concerned at our £15k+ a week guys think they can just stroll into the box at every opportunity - not a save made by the Rangers keeper from open play.

Our biggest game of season and we didn’t lay a glove

[bordergreen]

Absolutely brutal.

[cubehindthegoal]

Poor choice of game to go for that. This has been self inflicted idiocy. Obita has been off it by a mile since minute 1 and that is a brain donor of a challenge from NMW.

You are accepting of the corruption. Poorer choice.

[Heisenberg]

For me - we’d be furious if we did not get a pen there

Obita been asking for it

NMW - yellow card but you’ve being wreckless when the game got a bit out of control. I think the ref could have taken his time and maybe booked him and I don’t think VAR would have changed it. I understand why he’s sent him off though

More concerned at our £15k+ a week guys think they can just stroll into the box at every opportunity - not a save made by the Rangers keeper from open play.

Our biggest game of season and we didn’t lay a glove

I’m furious we didn’t get a pen for the clear foul on Emiliano.

[Hibees1973]

This is a terrible performance from Hibs with idiotic decision making.
Obita made contact in the box by getting the wrong side of the man. It’s a penalty. Soft but it’s the right decision.
The sending of is on Monty because he should have been subbed. You put your hand on another players face then there is a chance you pick up a yellow.
Some of the crying on here is childish.


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True.

I said at the start we would have to be very smart in this game, but we have been far from it.

It must be said though that no matter what we did tonight we would never win this.

Every 50/50 or even 60/40 decision in our favour went to the Hun. Doubt if anyone could question this.

[.Sean.]

How come the ref just forgot to book that ugly prick Silva????? Did he forget the rules

[cubehindthegoal]

You're apart of the problem.

I guess you mean the comment before … and that is 100% true. It’s sad. It makes people give up speaking against it .. so is that the reason such comments are made ? I wonder …who knows anymore, it’s a totally corrupt farce of a game in Scotland.

[Pretty Boy]

The decisions are often irrelevant. The instinct is always to favour them.

3 Hibs bookings relatively early tonight which leaves you open to the Obita decision. No booking for Rangers for comparable offences. Rangers player runs into the crowd, no booking. Welsh dives in, card is out without a second thought. Players goes down in the box, points to the spot with no hesitation.

Even if the decisions are right, and I'm not saying they are, the instinct is to give them. Never a second thought in the way there is with other teams. It's give the decision in favour of Rangers first, think later.

Instinctive cheating.

[Scooter]

This can't go on

[sean04]

Ben Kinnell or higher has to call this out. Refs are cheating and completely wrecking the game

[Murphys Touch]

True.

I said at the start we would have to be very smart in this game, but we have been far from it.

It must be said though that no matter what we did tonight we would never win this.

Every 50/50 or even 60/40 decision in our favour went to the Hun. Doubt if anyone could question this.

How I see it - we played the game wrong!

But every tight call was automatically going Rangers way. And it’s that bit that is infuriating

[hibeez1875]

Time for a breakaway league - and don’t let the Old Firm join. 10 other SPL teams, top 8 in championship and let old firm play Brechin and stenhousemuir - if they’ll have them

[SaulGoodman]

Ben Kinnell or higher has to call this out. Refs are cheating and completely wrecking the game

Judging by some of the shouts from the stands, his brother Fuc was playing at LB tonight.

[neil7908]

I used to not think so and was keen on VAR to sort out the poor decisions.

I was entirely wrong - the game in Scotland is broken and riddled with corruption.

Mistakes are made in other leagues but when they are made up here they always seem to benefit 1 or 2 teams.

What is the last 'mistake' that's gone our way?

[brydekirk]

Rangers should’ve been down to 10 for the high boot on Fish early in first half


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Celtic player got red carded for same thing.

[HibeeMackenzie]

How come the ref just forgot to book that ugly prick Silva????? Did he forget the rules

He plays in blue

[brydekirk]

Just walk off the pitch Hibs.

I can see this happening in the near future.

[JohnM1875]

Just walk off the pitch Hibs.

Said the same. Really really pissed off after that.

[Callum_62]

Rangers should’ve been down to 10 for the high boot on Fish early in first half


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkDon't talk rubbish, that call was just missed and the non offside to stop Martin out wide early on and every single thing going there way has zero bearing on the players reactions

It's all fair and above board, honestly

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[HoboHarry]

The cheating will never end because all there is currently is fans on social media screaming and yelling to people who aren't listening. If the fans of every other club than the uglies staged a two game boycott there would be action and it would happen pretty damn quickly. It will take the owners losing huge sums of money en-masse for them to do anything about the cheating.

[SteveHFC]

I can see this happening in the near future.

I’d happily chip in to pay for any fine the club gets if we do that.

[HoboHarry]

I can see this happening in the near future.
Hibs would get absolutely hammered if they did that and not a single other club would come to their defence. It will take a serious effort from all of the other clubs working together for anything to change.

[cubehindthegoal]

This is a terrible performance from Hibs with idiotic decision making.
Obita made contact in the box by getting the wrong side of the man. It’s a penalty. Soft but it’s the right decision.
The sending of is on Monty because he should have been subbed. You put your hand on another players face then there is a chance you pick up a yellow.
Some of the crying on here is childish.


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Souttar put his arm/hand on face, totally deliberately when you see it .. and nothing .. and I don’t even know what happened with the challenge on Boyle .. but nothing again … you are an apologist for the official corruption that keeps certain clubs in their status quo …

You know … I have supported Hibs for more than 50 years … but I’ve never seen it get so bad and obvious, now we have TV showing it live… and still … it is allowed to continue .. and when (self designated) “Hibs fans” not only don’t call it out, after decades of the same, when it’s clear to see now, but actually take the opposite stance against what’s happening to us … I wonder ..

Why do I bother …

And then I remember … it’s those who both do, and support in any way, injustices that I despise …

We are on a loser … Foley may have some influence … but it’s against decades and decades of corruption and bigotry .. so sad is Scottish football, it’s deep engrained dishonesty. They may even actually justify themselves somehow in doing so, historically or such nonsense.

[chrisski33]

Performance by the team and the officials were shocking.

[cubehindthegoal]

Celtic player got red carded for same thing.

Another clear in our face example of the difference in decisions we get … but .. will anyone call it out where it matters and can actually make a difference ? And even then … will it make a difference … the SFA and SPFL are faceless in these things … they can hide and ignore with ease.

[Mcbizz1998]

I’m a bit miffed to read some having a go at Hibs. I genuinely thought we were decent for large spells, reduced the Hűns to very little and were right in the game.

I thought the ref was a complete disgrace. I’m at the stage where I find it really hard to believe these are all just innocent errors from the ref. I’m pretty numb to it, finding that I care less and less about Scottish football. It’s all predictable and depressing.

[buktapurple79]

I'll get pelters for this but...

the fans should invade the pitch and have a sit in, get the game abandoned.



All for this, were the only mob that got away wae going on Hamden pitch and leathering **** ouotay that mob an there players after The Happy Day, we need to set the bar, our lads set the tone:flag::aok:

[Hibee Daft]

The cheating will never end because all there is currently is fans on social media screaming and yelling to people who aren't listening. If the fans of every other club than the uglies staged a two game boycott there would be action and it would happen pretty damn quickly. It will take the owners losing huge sums of money en-masse for them to do anything about the cheating.

Yes,should demand foreign refs

[buktapurple79]

Souttar put his arm/hand on face, totally deliberately when you see it .. and nothing .. and I don’t even know what happened with the challenge on Boyle .. but nothing again … you are an apologist for the official corruption that keeps certain clubs in their status quo …

You know … I have supported Hibs for more than 50 years … but I’ve never seen it get so bad and obvious, now we have TV showing it live… and still … it is allowed to continue .. and when (self designated) “Hibs fans” not only don’t call it out, after decades of the same, when it’s clear to see now, but actually take the opposite stance against what’s happening to us … I wonder ..

Why do I bother …

And then I remember … it’s those who both do, and support in any way, injustices that I despise …

We are on a loser … Foley may have some influence … but it’s against decades and decades of corruption and bigotry .. so sad is Scottish football, it’s deep engrained dishonesty. They may even actually justify themselves somehow in doing so, historically or such nonsense.

110 out 100:thumbsup:

[Northern Hibby]

Hibs: we're getting major investment to bridge the financial gap..

SFA: Let's make sure they don't forget who's in charge.

[Chorley Hibee]

Ben Kinnell or higher has to call this out. Refs are cheating and completely wrecking the game

I guarantee you we'll do nothing.

I thought Aberdeen was a watershed moment, but it was simply to appease people before the AGM.

We reverted to type when we let the scandalous penalty decision at Tynie go without a word.

We'll do nothing here either.

[Hibees1973]

I’m a bit miffed to read some having a go at Hibs. I genuinely thought we were pretty decent for large spells, reduced the Hűns to very little and were right in the game.

I thought the ref was a complete disgrace. I’m at the stage where I find it really hard to believe these are all just innocent errors from the ref. I’m pretty numb to it, finding that I care less and less about Scottish football. It’s all pretty depressing.

Maybe corrupt is too strong a word, but anyone who cannot see that Rangers benefit from marginal decisions from referees really has their head in the sand or choose to ignore it.

The influence Rangers and to a lesser extent Celtic, have on referees should never be underestimated.

There have been some high profile instances in the last few years that we all know about. But I also know from some politically influential people in Scotland the Old Firm pull levers at times which benefit them hugely.

Even if we have a potential title winning side it will never be a level playing field with them in Scotland. Never.

[LunasBoots]

It's corrupt and that's why crowds are dwindling at ER against these lot

Rangers had a ref convention half the game it was obvious

[ACLeith]

One trivial incident defined the instinctive bias. It wasn't down to interpretation, as the rule is 100% clear.

The ball hit McLean as it was passed out to their wide man. Automatic decision - play must stop, drop ball that they would have received. But he played on, obviously because it was more helpful to them.

Never affected the game, but proof positive, not that any was needed.

[Bobby's Cinema]

I’m a bit miffed to read some having a go at Hibs. I genuinely thought we were decent for large spells, reduced the Hűns to very little and were right in the game.

I thought the ref was a complete disgrace. I’m at the stage where I find it really hard to believe these are all just innocent errors from the ref. I’m pretty numb to it, finding that I care less and less about Scottish football. It’s all predictable and depressing.
Absolutely - I was miffed at HT listening to Lennon and Marv tearing into us - meant to be the home team etc.
It came across to me as almost an arrogant we would be doing better than this type chat.

[percy veer]

This is a terrible performance from Hibs with idiotic decision making.
Obita made contact in the box by getting the wrong side of the man. It’s a penalty. Soft but it’s the right decision.
The sending of is on Monty because he should have been subbed. You put your hand on another players face then there is a chance you pick up a yellow.
Some of the crying on here is childish.


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Exact same challenge on boyle 10 seconds before pen ref tells boyle to get up

[Bobo]

3 yellow and 2 red cards from 8 fouls while the Huns get 1 yellow from 11 fouls?

Certainly smells of something, corruption, incompetence, cheating or blatant bias? Take your pick!

[Dobosz83]

Folk wonder why ticket sales were abysmal. It’s all too predictable now when the Old Firm come to town.

£24 to watch a shafting…

I had 25 mins in the Rangers Penalty Bingo game on X. Nearly got it spot on…

[churchie16]

Absolutely - I was miffed at HT listening to Lennon and Marv tearing into us - meant to be the home team etc.
It came across to me as almost an arrogant we would be doing better than this type chat.

Marvs one of the biggest arselickers going just so he can get the gig in a few weeks time, hibs were on top that’s the biggest bit of il just chuck two red cards at them and make it easier for rangers, most corrupt league in the planet simple as that

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Was it Marcondes that was kicked in the head outside the box? MacLean didn't give a free kick. I think it went to VAR when the game stopped but they couldn't intervene as it was outside the box. Inside the box I think they have to give a penalty.

[hibee_girl]

Was it Marcondes that was kicked in the head outside the box? MacLean didn't give a free kick. I think it went to VAR when the game stopped but they couldn't intervene as it was outside the box. Inside the box I think they have to give a penalty.

Yep, he was screaming at the ref it was a head knock but the ref told him just to get up.

[Se7enUp]

They're laughing at you.


You gullible idiots

It's not even hidden anymore.

[LewysGot2]

Folk wonder why ticket sales were abysmal. It’s all too predictable now when the Old Firm come to town.

£24 to watch a shafting…

I had 25 mins in the Rangers Penalty Bingo game on X. Nearly got it spot on…

£26 if, like me, you stupidly didn’t realise the deadline for seat release also meant STHs paying non-STH prices. Logged on after a long day at work, an hour late, and got charged full whack :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Se7enUp]

Poor choice of game to go for that. This has been self inflicted idiocy. Obita has been off it by a mile since minute 1 and that is a brain donor of a challenge from NMW.

When you're playing against 11, plus a ref, plus the VAR guy, you tend to lose the plot, or not give a **** bc what's the point.

[Hibees1973]

I think the main problem with the game in Scotland just now is that with the OF nip and tuck in the league and both in the latter stages of the cup it puts the microscope even more on referees and VAR.

Most sane observers knew we were not going to win that game tonight. No matter what we did. On reflection looking at the threads, should any of us be surprised. No. But it doesn't stop frustration coming to the fore again.

Imagine if the Foley money puts us in contention with the title in a couple of years.

We won't be allowed anywhere near the Champions League cash.

[Se7enUp]

True.

I said at the start we would have to be very smart in this game, but we have been far from it.

It must be said though that no matter what we did tonight we would never win this.

Every 50/50 or even 60/40 decision in our favour went to the Hun. Doubt if anyone could question this.

"Very smart" to win a game? ie we have to play the ref as well? So what, exactly, is the ****ing point?

[Carheenlea]

"Very smart" to win a game? ie we have to play the ref as well? So what, exactly, is the ****ing point?

We need to do more than others to win big games. More often than not you need more than just a “good performance”.

We weren’t brilliant tonight, but ultimately needed to be brilliant to overcome the extra hurdles put in our way.

[Chorley Hibee]

"The officials had a bit of a bad day today, but everybody can have a bad day."

More spineless **** from Montgomery and the club.

[Se7enUp]

We need to do more than others to win big games. More often than not you need more than just a “good performance”.

We weren’t brilliant tonight, but ultimately needed to be brilliant to overcome the extra hurdles put in our way.

And that's ok?

[duffers]

"The officials had a bit of a bad day today, but everybody can have a bad day."

More spineless **** from Montgomery and the club.

💯

[.Sean.]

"The officials had a bit of a bad day today, but everybody can have a bad day."

More spineless **** from Montgomery and the club.
Thats absolutely embarrassing. Gtf honestly

[JimBHibees]

Hibs: we're getting major investment to bridge the financial gap..

SFA: Let's make sure they don't forget who's in charge.

Not wrong

[duffers]

If any hibs fans think they are getting either of those 3 decisions at ibrox then they are delusional beyond belief

[GreenCastle]

Rangers don’t ever play Celtic first game of the season.

No one knows how the refs are appointed for games. Some refs like Alan Muir never ref old firm teams - but can ref Hibs games ???

VAR is all very hush hush.

Decisions at Ibrox and Celtic Park are often very questionable.

Hampden has a rangers end and Celtic end.

The TV revolves around the Old Firm coverage.

To say Scottish football is driven by Old Firm is an understatement.

The refs are of a terrible standard and VAR has shown how incompetent and inconsistent they are.

It’s making football in Scotland worse and sadly it won’t change until teams stand up to all the nonsense and call it out.

[Bobby's Cinema]

"The officials had a bit of a bad day today, but everybody can have a bad day."

More spineless **** from Montgomery and the club.
Did you choose not to listen to the full interview. Frustrating, bemused, mentioned the Boyle pen claim v Celtic where he was booked and today we get a similar scenario against us. He was clearly dancing around what he wanted to say - what's the point in the manager running his mouth off and sitting in the stand in Dingwall on Wednesday.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Yep, he was screaming at the ref it was a head knock but the ref told him just to get up.

Yeah, that's what I thought. The VAR guy has probably said to MacLean, aye its a foul, but outside the box. Not worthy of a red card, so don't worry about it, just carry on.

[LaMotta]

"The officials had a bit of a bad day today, but everybody can have a bad day."

More spineless **** from Montgomery and the club.

You are spot on. He's been weak in these interviews for a while, whilst week after week we are getting absolutely shafted by officials. Someone told me tonight that the club has decided deliberately to not call out decisions in interviews. Well what ****ing good is that doing? Absolutely none.

So what if he gets a 2 match ban like Rodgers - its absolutely worth it (as Rodgers has also said - no regrets). Officials have to start thinking twice about screwing us over.

[thebakerboy]

The one thing that proves our refs are just rubbish Boyle got taken off on a stretcher straight to hospital but when the incident occurred Ref didnt call for the medics to come on he just stood 5 yards away talking to a rangers player it took The Rangers keeper Butland to call the medics and tell them it was urgent.

[Chorley Hibee]

Did you choose not to listen to the full interview. Frustrating, bemused, mentioned the Boyle pen claim v Celtic where he was booked and today we get a similar scenario against us. He was clearly dancing around what he wanted to say - what's the point in the manager running his mouth off and sitting in the stand in Dingwall on Wednesday.

Don't dance around the issue, call it out.

They can stick him in the stand as much as they want, and we should continue calling it out again and again.

Dancing around the issue has us in the situation where we've been screwed over against our 4 biggest rivals in the space of circa 6 weeks.

We're soft as ***** and his pathetic interview is symptomatic of the entire club on this issue.

[Swedish hibee]

Straight red for not touching the player. Only in Scotland.

[Crab apple]

There's never been a level playing field in my lifetime when it comes to officialdom favouring the bigot brothers. However this season it seems to be getting worse. Every 50/50 call tonight went against us. There was no application of the rules eg when the hun left the pitch to celebrate after the second goal. The sheep and the minis have no chance of winning the cup this year.

[Crab apple]

The one thing that proves our refs are just rubbish Boyle got taken off on a stretcher straight to hospital but when the incident occurred Ref didnt call for the medics to come on he just stood 5 yards away talking to a rangers player it took The Rangers keeper Butland to call the medics and tell them it was urgent.

I dete fat red faced Souttar. He should have been booked on a number of occassions tonight.

[LaMotta]

Straight red for not touching the player. Only in Scotland.

Only time I've seen that happen before was Porteous at Ibrox. What a coincidence.

[overdrive]

In addition to calling this out, I hope the club instruct the players to not shake the hand of any referee from now on. They don’t deserve the respect of a handshake. None of them. They aren’t respectable people. I’d be turning the heating and hot water off in the refs’ changing room too.

[Swedish hibee]

The standard of referees in Scotland is the absolute worst. We need a fan led revolution.

[Crab apple]

Very telling also to see Police Scotland filmimg and focussing on any potential misbehaviour from our fans at the bottom of the east. Meanwhile sustained chants of 'up to our knees in fenian blood' are left unchecked in the South Stand. It's disgusting and depressing.

[Wilson]

Don't dance around the issue, call it out.

They can stick him in the stand as much as they want, and we should continue calling it out again and again.

Dancing around the issue has us in the situation where we've been screwed over against our 4 biggest rivals in the space of circa 6 weeks.

We're soft as ***** and his pathetic interview is symptomatic of the entire club on this issue.

We would just look like sore losers and every Rangers biased pundit and media hack would paint us as such. So we don't win. We make a lot of noise. Get punished - putting obstacles in front ourselves (manager in stand) for games. And nothing changes. Not a damn thing.

We can only beat them on the pitch and that takes overcoming a lot of odds. We need a lot less naievity from the manager and the players.

[BoomtownHibees]

One trivial incident defined the instinctive bias. It wasn't down to interpretation, as the rule is 100% clear.

The ball hit McLean as it was passed out to their wide man. Automatic decision - play must stop, drop ball that they would have received. But he played on, obviously because it was more helpful to them.

Never affected the game, but proof positive, not that any was needed.

If the ball goes to the team who would be getting the drop-ball then it’s fine to play on so nothing wrong with what he done in this instance. The rest of the decisions are a different matter

[ScottB]

Of course it’s corrupt, there’s the blatant favouritism on the pitch, the audible bile pouring out of any stand that has them in it and everyone, the SFA, the SPFL, Sky, BBC, Police etc just pretend it isn’t happening.

Hibs need to make an official complaint about the refereeing last night, not least the way Boyle was treated, then complain about the conduct of the Rangers fans.

I’d also be looking at banning them from the ground for their next visit, then a policy of any further observable outbursts of bigotry leading to further bans. Make it very clear. Force it into the media conversation, attempt to bring other clubs onboard.

[chippy]

I don’t buy it’s the same treatment we get re both sets of the old firm. It’s much worse and getting more worse regarding Rangers. They’re desperate for them to win the league and cup so it’s no holds barred bias. Agree re banning the Rangers fans for anti Catholic singing with a banner on the south stand stating why. Complain yes but get together with other like minded clubs to do so.

[Northernhibee]

I don’t buy it’s the same treatment we get re both sets of the old firm. It’s much worse and getting more worse regarding Rangers. They’re desperate for them to win the league and cup so it’s no holds barred bias. Agree re banning the Rangers fans for anti Catholic singing with a banner on the south stand stating why. Complain yes but get together with other like minded clubs to do so.

You’re right, it’s gotten a huge deal worse in the last couple of seasons

[MrSmith]

Have a friend who worked in the BBC Sport Dept up until a few weeks ago, they were gobsmacked at the amount of ex the the the pundits were associated with the show and the most obvious bias shown in the department itself. Again, the corruption is in every thread of football in Scotland.

[Northernhibee]

Have a friend who worked in the BBC Sport Dept up until a few weeks ago, they were gobsmacked at the amount of ex the the the pundits were associated with the show and the most obvious bias shown in the department itself. Again, the corruption is in every thread of football in Scotland.
There was a comment before the game on the radio yesterday about the reason Rangers get so many penalties is they get lots of people in the box. It’s laughable.

[nonshinyfinish]

There was a comment before the game on the radio yesterday about the reason Rangers get so many penalties is they get lots of people in the box. It’s laughable.

There's some truth in that of course – on average you'd expect a team that spends more time attacking to get more penalties than one that spends more time defending.

Problem is, over a long period they get a number of penalties that's disproportionate to their touches in the opposition box when compared to other teams:

https://i.imgur.com/fnuf8NF.jpeg

[lyonhibs]

There's some truth in that of course – on average you'd expect a team that spends more time attacking to get more penalties than one that spends more time defending.

Problem is, over a long period they get a number of penalties that's disproportionate to their touches in the opposition box when compared to other teams:

https://i.imgur.com/fnuf8NF.jpeg

Corruption favouring Hearts, Aberdeen and the Lanarkshire powerhouses Motherwell as much, proportionally, as Rangers there 😁

[.Sean.]

For KP -

Do the board intend to speak out again regarding decisions, and are we going to cut the alloaction like BK suggested they might the other week?

Not cutting it for financial reasons is putting a price on allowing sectarianism. Do the club view sectarianism the same as if it was say racism against a black man?

Or are they going to roll over and say nothing as expected?

[Keith_M]

Very telling also to see Police Scotland filmimg and focussing on any potential misbehaviour from our fans at the bottom of the east. Meanwhile sustained chants of 'up to our knees in fenian blood' are left unchecked in the South Stand. It's disgusting and depressing.


I've heard Hibs Fans complain about this a couple of times to the Polis that escort us to the Govan underground, after games at Ibrox, and the response is always along the lines of, "what do you expect us to do, arrest all of them?".

Apparently the only other option is to ignore them and do literally nothing.

[big gogs]

Ben Kinnell or higher has to call this out. Refs are cheating and completely wrecking the game
While rangers and Celtic run Scottish football,nothing will change,the referee’s will always turn a blind eye.the old firm want to move abroad,but nobody wants them,unless it’s for testimonials.we are stuck with them,and their antics.there is nothing we can do.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

"The officials had a bit of a bad day today, but everybody can have a bad day."

More spineless **** from Montgomery and the club.

he doesn’t need to put himself in the firing line at a crucial time of year. Once we’re in the top 6 different scenario. So I understand him taking the diplomatic route

[LaMotta]

he doesn’t need to put himself in the firing line at a crucial time of year. Once we’re in the top 6 different scenario. So I understand him taking the diplomatic route

The diplomatic route hasnt helped us in the slightest with decisions contiually going against us, which might ultimately cost us a place in the top six.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

There's some truth in that of course – on average you'd expect a team that spends more time attacking to get more penalties than one that spends more time defending.

Problem is, over a long period they get a number of penalties that's disproportionate to their touches in the opposition box when compared to other teams:

https://i.imgur.com/fnuf8NF.jpeg

is this not a bit of a blunt tool though based on the “flaw of averages”?

Not all touches are equal.

Have the same mental tussle with expected goals.

I think the difference here is quality of play/ player.

I recall hearing Sportsound back in the day “Watson screws it over the bar from 6 yards out”.

[kentao]

While rangers and Celtic run Scottish football,nothing will change,the referee’s will always turn a blind eye.the old firm want to move abroad,but nobody wants them,unless it’s for testimonials.we are stuck with them,and their antics.there is nothing we can do.

Wish all the SPFL clubs could just withdraw from playing them and let them have a league of 2.

[wills]

Maybe someone with the skills required can look at possible encroachment by Lundstrum at the penalty. Plenty of replays of the penalty but none for the follow up. I’ve tried to freeze frame it and it looks like when Tavenier strikes the ball, Lundstrums foot is on the line at the D which would be encroaching.

[LaMotta]

Maybe someone with the skills required can look at possible encroachment by Lundstrum at the penalty. Plenty of replays of the penalty but none for the follow up. I’ve tried to freeze frame it and it looks like when Tavenier strikes the ball, Lundstrums foot is on the line at the D which would be encroaching.

Def not encroaching. See here, Lundstram between Obita and Maolida:

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[JimBHibees]

Def not encroaching. See here, Lundstram between Obita and Maolida:

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Wtf is Maolida doing :greengrin

[LaMotta]

Wtf is Maolida doing :greengrin

He's thinking about what to have for a post match snack. My favourite player right now but that is shocking from him.

[JimBHibees]

He's thinking about what to have for a post match snack. My favourite player right now but that is shocking from him.

At minimum should have been trying to block him.

[BILLYHIBS]

Wtf is Maolida doing :greengrin

Sleeping

[where'stheslope]

Maybe someone with the skills required can look at possible encroachment by Lundstrum at the penalty. Plenty of replays of the penalty but none for the follow up. I’ve tried to freeze frame it and it looks like when Tavenier strikes the ball, Lundstrums foot is on the line at the D which would be encroaching.
Just watched it again, and if they never scored there, I feel it would be a retake from VAR as Marshall is about 1 yard off his line?
Think what that would add to how everyone is feeling today!!!

[LaMotta]

At minimum should have been trying to block him.


Sleeping

He's actually doing the "Wonderwoman pose". :rolleyes: Apparently psychologists say that pose can raise your confidence, but that really wasnt the time for it.

[cabbageandribs1875]

after watching the first replay back i thought Lundstram just timed his run perfectly


still a cheating git at the red card for M-W

[JimBHibees]

after watching the first replay back i thought Lundstram just timed his run perfectly


still a cheating git at the red card for M-W

Yes he did

[Fergos]

The cheating will never end because all there is currently is fans on social media screaming and yelling to people who aren't listening. If the fans of every other club than the uglies staged a two game boycott there would be action and it would happen pretty damn quickly. It will take the owners losing huge sums of money en-masse for them to do anything about the cheating.

Totally agree. Ingrained issues need radical actions.

[Ozyhibby]

Def not encroaching. See here, Lundstram between Obita and Maolida:

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Embarrassing for them both. Obita was a disgrace yesterday and should be looking at an extended time out the team.
Everyone having a go at the ref when our own players are acting like that? Obita was still standing there when the ball hit the back of the net. If we keep hiring players with his attitude it doesn’t matter what the ref is like.


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[Broken Gnome]

At minimum should have been trying to block him.

If he makes even the slightest attempt to cut across Lundstram, he's not getting there that split second ahead of Newell.

[BoomtownHibees]

Embarrassing for them both. Obita was a disgrace yesterday and should be looking at an extended time out the team.
Everyone having a go at the ref when our own players are acting like that? Obita was still standing there when the ball hit the back of the net. If we keep hiring players with his attitude it doesn’t matter what the ref is like.


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He’s been one of our best players lately so the above is a bit extreme to say the least. Aye he was poor last night but to say he deserves an extended time out the team is a bit dramatic

[LaMotta]

Embarrassing for them both. Obita was a disgrace yesterday and should be looking at an extended time out the team.
Everyone having a go at the ref when our own players are acting like that? Obita was still standing there when the ball hit the back of the net. If we keep hiring players with his attitude it doesn’t matter what the ref is like.


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I think Obita has been pretty good overall for us but there is no doubt he has cost us several times now with total brain farts (add in Aberdeen semi, St Mirren away).

Last night was a shocker all round from him.

[Tyler Durden]

Embarrassing for them both. Obita was a disgrace yesterday and should be looking at an extended time out the team.
Everyone having a go at the ref when our own players are acting like that? Obita was still standing there when the ball hit the back of the net. If we keep hiring players with his attitude it doesn’t matter what the ref is like.


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Yeah let's drop him and bring in Lewis Stevenson, great idea

[flash]

Embarrassing for them both. Obita was a disgrace yesterday and should be looking at an extended time out the team.
Everyone having a go at the ref when our own players are acting like that? Obita was still standing there when the ball hit the back of the net. If we keep hiring players with his attitude it doesn’t matter what the ref is like.


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Next to Joe Newell in the stand presumably?

[gbhibby]

Why did people respond to the OP? Their second post in this thread shows that they have a poor grasp of the English language

[Ozyhibby]

I think Obita has been pretty good overall for us but there is no doubt he has cost us several times now with total brain farts (add in Aberdeen semi, St Mirren away).

Last night was a shocker all round from him.

Mistakes I can live with but when your attitude is that you just don’t care enough then I don’t want you near the club. There is no excuse for just standing watching a goal being scored against you.


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[Ozyhibby]

Next to Joe Newell in the stand presumably?

Nah, Joe has brought us nothing but success since he arrived. Winner.


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[tamig]

Embarrassing for them both. Obita was a disgrace yesterday and should be looking at an extended time out the team.
Everyone having a go at the ref when our own players are acting like that? Obita was still standing there when the ball hit the back of the net. If we keep hiring players with his attitude it doesn’t matter what the ref is like.


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What a ridiculous comment. Obita has been one of our best players over the past few months. He was poor last night and made a daft decision. His attitude has been excellent.

[tamig]

Mistakes I can live with but when your attitude is that you just don’t care enough then I don’t want you near the club. There is no excuse for just standing watching a goal being scored against you.


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When was he standing watching a goal being scored against us? That photo wasn’t taken when the goal was scored.

[hibsbollah]

Nah, Joe has brought us nothing but success since he arrived. Winner.


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You seem to have got a lot more sarcastic and your recent posts lack balance. Even when i disagreed with you i always used to respect the tone of your posts. Newell wasnt up to his usual high standards last night but the vitriol youre aiming at him and Obita just seems weird and totally not what i was watching.

[Hibernia&Alba]

I think the problem is more cowardice by the officials than corruption, such is the size and power of the Old Firm. I don’t believe that officials set out with a plan to cheat the rest of Scottish football, but I think they fear the consequences of giving controversial decisions against the big two, who, along with their fans, will kick up a stink if something goes against them. Rangers will release statements to add to the pressure; the newspapers, Old Firm pundits, fan phone-ins, fan websites will all go berserk. It’s self-preservation from the officials; in a way it’s understandable. It isn’t easy to withstand the firestorm the Old Firm can unleash. Much easier to bottle such decisions and give them against the other side, when it will quickly be forgotten. We all accept that that’s the way it goes and then move on. Referees and their assistants are only human; fear is a powerful emotion.

[Chorley Hibee]

I think the problem is more cowardice by the officials than corruption, such is the size and power of the Old Firm. I don’t believe that officials set out with a plan to cheat the rest of Scottish football, but I think they fear the consequences of giving controversial decisions against the big two, who, along with their fans, will kick up a stink if something goes against them. Rangers will release statements to add to the pressure; the newspapers, Old Firm pundits, fan phone-ins, fan websites will all go berserk. It’s self-preservation from the officials; in a way it’s understandable. It isn’t easy to withstand the firestorm the Old Firm can unleash. Much easier to bottle such decisions and give them against the other side, when it will quickly be forgotten. We all accept that that’s the way it goes and then move on. Referees and their assistants are only human; fear is a powerful emotion.

Nobody held a gun to their head and asked them to be a referee, it was a choice they made.

They're not scared enough to leave the profession though are they, and they're happy enough to collect their cash and play their part in the corruption that is Scottish football each week.

Is it also fear that means you have to be from a select area in the West of Scotland to become a top flight official, or is it something else?

[snedzuk]

Just watched it again, and if they never scored there, I feel it would be a retake from VAR as Marshall is about 1 yard off his line?
Think what that would add to how everyone is feeling today!!!

See how Fabio Silvas foot is over the line - one of our players pushed him just as Tavernier was stepping up and I thought at the time, if they dont score here they will get a retake.

[Ozyhibby]

When was he standing watching a goal being scored against us? That photo wasn’t taken when the goal was scored.

Apologies, I wasn’t going by the photo. I watched last night on tv and the view from behind the goal shows him stand and watch the whole thing.
You would think after giving the pen away he would be trying a little bit harder?

Up until last night I have been pleased with Obita. I can’t stand a poor attitude though and that stunk of that.


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[Ozyhibby]

You seem to have got a lot more sarcastic and your recent posts lack balance. Even when i disagreed with you i always used to respect the tone of your posts. Newell wasnt up to his usual high standards last night but the vitriol youre aiming at him and Obita just seems weird and totally not what i was watching.

I haven’t really had a go at Newell about last night? I did think he was MIA again but I haven’t really said much about it?


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[Onion]

I think the problem is more cowardice by the officials than corruption, such is the size and power of the Old Firm. I don’t believe that officials set out with a plan to cheat the rest of Scottish football, but I think they fear the consequences of giving controversial decisions against the big two, who, along with their fans, will kick up a stink if something goes against them. Rangers will release statements to add to the pressure; the newspapers, Old Firm pundits, fan phone-ins, fan websites will all go berserk. It’s self-preservation from the officials; in a way it’s understandable. It isn’t easy to withstand the firestorm the Old Firm can unleash. Much easier to bottle such decisions and give them against the other side, when it will quickly be forgotten. We all accept that that’s the way it goes and then move on. Referees and their assistants are only human; fear is a powerful emotion.

Don't disagree with this, but it was somehow easier to take pre-VAR when the assumption was that the ref had a fleeting moment to make a decision based on one view, linesmen had to use instant judgement, and once a decision was made that was it. You could watch or walk away from a game thinking you were hard done by and on another day it may have been different. That's no longer the case. VAR has shone a great spotlight on the cowardice and corruption among officials.

Since VAR and phoney forensic examination of handballs, offsides, fouls etc the veil of pretence has been swept away. Officials use VAR selectively to sway results, and have no hiding place. They know the only masters they need to serve is the OF. Everyone else can live off the scraps.

[Callum_62]

https://twitter.com/Zeshankenzo/status/1767123204194099362?t=4jmoIDtrWlAhTuifEL61Zw&s=19

All above board. Honest.

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[Northernhibee]

https://twitter.com/Zeshankenzo/status/1767123204194099362?t=4jmoIDtrWlAhTuifEL61Zw&s=19

All above board. Honest.

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And yet some on here don’t think the game is corrupt as **** up here.

[eastterrace]

https://twitter.com/Zeshankenzo/status/1767123204194099362?t=4jmoIDtrWlAhTuifEL61Zw&s=19

All above board. Honest.

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[Joe6-2]

Utterly beyond belief

[DaveF]

https://twitter.com/Zeshankenzo/status/1767123204194099362?t=4jmoIDtrWlAhTuifEL61Zw&s=19

All above board. Honest.

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Whoever is collating those clips deserves a pat on the back. Great work.

[Dr What If?]

https://twitter.com/Zeshankenzo/status/1767123204194099362?t=4jmoIDtrWlAhTuifEL61Zw&s=19

All above board. Honest.

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Watching that there is only one conclusion, what is the point?

[we are hibs]

Why did people respond to the OP? Their second post in this thread shows that they have a poor grasp of the English language

Having read your posts on another thread perhaps you would be more suited to followfollow.