Dylan Vente

[Crab apple]

Every player in this squad has deteriorated under NM.

Another reason for punting him. It takes some doing to make Levitt and Wollacott looks worse as they are truly awful to start with.

[Springbank]

On Wednesday we'll see Theo Bair vs Dylan Vente

Bair will turn up expecting 2 or 3 goals

The challenge for Vente is to match it

Sadly I don't see him being a fair match for Bair, either in possession or out of possession

[Nicho87]

Vente looks slow

Not particularly strong in the air

Not very strong

His clinical side has left since joining

For 700k im sorry but im expecting something better

[Walter]

I think its difficult to be a striker in amongst this chaos, he gets a clean slate from me once NM is away.

[JohnM1875]

I’m not judging Vente until we get a proper manager in. He was scoring plenty under LJ so I think a good manager will get the best out of him.

The whole squad looks completely zapped of any confidence.

[Heisenberg]

I’m not judging Vente until we get a proper manager in. He was scoring plenty under LJ so I think a good manager will get the best out of him.

The whole squad looks completely zapped of any confidence.

He wasn’t really though. He scored two under LJ and three under Monty before going missing, a few assists aside. I was too harsh on him last night in calling him absolutely ***** and deleted the post, but don’t think he’s been anywhere near as good as a 700k+ signing should be in this league.

He might come good but he’s got some way to go to prove he’s got what it takes at this level. Too easy to play against, doesn’t create chances himself, hasn’t been taking the few chances he does get on the end of.

[JohnM1875]

He wasn’t really though. He scored two under LJ and three under Monty before going missing, a few assists aside. I was too harsh on him last night in calling him absolutely ***** and deleted the post, but don’t think he’s been anywhere near as good as a 700k+ signing should be in this league.

He might come good but he’s got some way to go to prove he’s got what it takes at this level. Too easy to play against, doesn’t create chances himself, hasn’t been taking the few chances he does get on the end of.

First season in a new league, team and country.

A new manager who actually knows what he’s doing will get the best out of him, hopefully.

[Unseen work]

He wasn’t really though. He scored two under LJ and three under Monty before going missing, a few assists aside. I was too harsh on him last night in calling him absolutely ***** and deleted the post, but don’t think he’s been anywhere near as good as a 700k+ signing should be in this league.

He might come good but he’s got some way to go to prove he’s got what it takes at this level. Too easy to play against, doesn’t create chances himself, hasn’t been taking the few chances he does get on the end of.

The thing is, 700K for a striker is absolutely nothing.

Nisbet was our main striker & too scorer , would get criticised a lot by fans etc and went for 2 million, would have been more if not for injuries/contract.

[Heisenberg]

The thing is, 700K for a striker is absolutely nothing.

Nisbet was our main striker & too scorer , would get criticised a lot by fans etc and went for 2 million, would have been more if not for injuries/contract.

It is at this level. It’s huge money and you’d be looking for a guaranteed success out of it. Simon Murray and Theo Bair have rattled goals in and Vente just gets battered about the place and can’t compete.

Hopefully he turns into what we all thought we were signing next season.

[MWHIBBIES]

First season in a new league, team and country.

A new manager who actually knows what he’s doing will get the best out of him, hopefully.

Miovski has 42 goals in 2 seasons while Aberdeen have been largely woeful.

New team, league and country doesn't excuse lack of first touch, passing ability, pace, and just general involvement. Doidge would've got slaughtered if he ever tried as little as Vente has been.

[JohnM1875]

Miovski has 42 goals in 2 seasons while Aberdeen have been largely woeful.

New team, league and country doesn't excuse lack of first touch, passing ability, pace, and just general involvement. Doidge would've got slaughtered if he ever tried as little as Vente has been.

Aye, all players settle exactly the same way.

[ChuckNor]

Vente wants away but the chances of him actually leaving are very slim.

Hopefully a new manager gets him back to the really promising striker we signed. His confidence has hit rock bottom. Montgomery has completely sapped all the instinctive play out of him.

[B.H.F.C]

He wasn’t really though. He scored two under LJ and three under Monty before going missing, a few assists aside. I was too harsh on him last night in calling him absolutely ***** and deleted the post, but don’t think he’s been anywhere near as good as a 700k+ signing should be in this league.

He might come good but he’s got some way to go to prove he’s got what it takes at this level. Too easy to play against, doesn’t create chances himself, hasn’t been taking the few chances he does get on the end of.

The bit about being too easy to play against is the key bit for me. The goals, or lack of, is obviously and issue but the bigger issue is the total lack of contribution in the game. Even if you look at yesterday, Maolida goes through the middle and has a couple of chances that he should score from. Le Fondre comes on and is unlucky not to score. Now they’re not getting loads of service that Vente isn’t but, for me, he doesn’t put himself in enough positions to score a goal. Folk go back to pre Montgomery but even then he wasn’t doing it. He’d had two shots on goal (both went in) prior to Montgomery coming in.

[The Modfather]

I’m not judging Vente until we get a proper manager in. He was scoring plenty under LJ so I think a good manager will get the best out of him.

The whole squad looks completely zapped of any confidence.

Is the fact he scored 5 goals from his first 5 shots not looking like it was an anomaly or a purple patch rather than an indicator of what to expect? His all round game was similar during that period to how it has been all season.

It looks like we have signed an out and out poacher to replace Nisbet whose all round game was able to create his own chances and who carried us last season. Yet another transfer gem from Hibs in signing a good individual player and worry about how he fits into the team later.

Around a million in fees alone for Vente and Levitt!!

[Smartie]

I’m not judging Vente until we get a proper manager in. He was scoring plenty under LJ so I think a good manager will get the best out of him.

The whole squad looks completely zapped of any confidence.

What you say seems fair… but it will cost us another season and another manager.

Sometimes you just need to make the call that players aren’t good enough.

I for a long spell mooted that a role should be found for Levitt where his lack of mobility wouldn’t be exposed, but why? Why shouldn’t we have midfielders who can run? In Vente’s case, why shouldn’t we have strikers with pace, physical presence, an ability to bring others into play instead of trying to figure out how to pin their shortcomings on the other 11 players and the manager?

Every week we play a team whose main striker is vastly superior and Wednesday will likely be no different.

[easty]

The 2 seasons before joining us he’d scored 21 and 25. He’s clearly a goalscorer.

It was Dutch second tier. I dunno what the standard is there, but I’d imagine it’s higher than our second tier. If there was a 22/23 year old scoring 20+ a season 2 years on the bounce I’d want us to be after him.

He might end up being not good enough, but the Vente I saw at the start of the season, and the record he has previous to Hibs, tells me he’ll come good under a better manager in a better manager team.

[The Modfather]

The 2 seasons before joining us he’d scored 21 and 25. He’s clearly a goalscorer.

It was Dutch second tier. I dunno what the standard is there, but I’d imagine it’s higher than our second tier. If there was a 22/23 year old scoring 20+ a season 2 years on the bounce I’d want us to be after him.

He might end up being not good enough, but the Vente I saw at the start of the season, and the record he has previous to Hibs, tells me he’ll come good under a better manager in a better manager team.

Would you spend £700k and go all in as our main and only striker for a guy scoring 21 and 25 in the league below us? Signing Vente in itself we can all get on board with, but we signed him as our marquee signing and up there with our all time record signings. It wasn’t a signing we were taking a chance on where if it doesn’t work out no real harm done.

[B.H.F.C]

The 2 seasons before joining us he’d scored 21 and 25. He’s clearly a goalscorer.

It was Dutch second tier. I dunno what the standard is there, but I’d imagine it’s higher than our second tier. If there was a 22/23 year old scoring 20+ a season 2 years on the bounce I’d want us to be after him.

He might end up being not good enough, but the Vente I saw at the start of the season, and the record he has previous to Hibs, tells me he’ll come good under a better manager in a better manager team.

I don’t know about the actual standard but it’ll be a totally different style. Things you need a centre forward to do in this league, you won’t need to do in that league. It’s a really high scoring league as well (good on the both teams to score coupon) but a lot of the bigger Dutch clubs have their academy/reserve teams in it. I don’t think his record there tells us too much about his ability to come good here.

[MWHIBBIES]

Aye, all players settle exactly the same way.

I'm not saying they do. Of course that may play a part. But you'd think if it was him settling, he'd be getting progressively better, not worse?

[easty]

Would you spend £700k and go all in as our main and only striker for a guy scoring 21 and 25 in the league below us? Signing Vente in itself we can all get on board with, but we signed him as our marquee signing and up there with our all time record signings. It wasn’t a signing we were taking a chance on where if it doesn’t work out no real harm done.

I dunno if I’d have paid that much, but it’s no his fault what we paid.

We signed Nisbet as our marquee signing, Scottish second tier. Worked out no bad.

[easty]

I don’t know about the actual standard but it’ll be a totally different style. Things you need a centre forward to do in this league, you won’t need to do in that league. It’s a really high scoring league as well (good on the both teams to score coupon) but a lot of the bigger Dutch clubs have their academy/reserve teams in it. I don’t think his record there tells us too much about his ability to come good here.

I've no idea of the style. Scoring goals is scoring goals though.

There's not a player in that league this season who's scored more than Vente did last season or the season before though.

[easty]

Anyway, he might end up being moved on, us taking a huge loss on him, and him contributing nothing in his time here. I'm just not at the point where I'd be writing him off, not after 9 months of Monty ball.

[JimBHibees]

Miovski has 42 goals in 2 seasons while Aberdeen have been largely woeful.

New team, league and country doesn't excuse lack of first touch, passing ability, pace, and just general involvement. Doidge would've got slaughtered if he ever tried as little as Vente has been.

The comparison with Miovski is a stark one. Physically speed movement finishing everything really

[easty]

On Wednesday we'll see Theo Bair vs Dylan Vente

Bair will turn up expecting 2 or 3 goals

The challenge for Vente is to match it

Sadly I don't see him being a fair match for Bair, either in possession or out of possession

Bair is a player who's finally found a role/team that works for him, and is in form for the first time in his career. He's had a great 5 months.

Between August and end of December, Bair had 4 goals. That's less than Vente had at that point.

Before Motherwell he was at St Johnstone where he played 38 games and scored once, before moving to Motherwell his whole career was 95 games with 8 goals.

Vente scored as many goals, in one season, 2 years back as Bair has scored in his entire career. Last season Vente scored 2 less than Bair has in his entire career.

If Theo Bair can score at this level in a team that plays to his strengths, then so can Dylan Vente.

[The Modfather]

Another quiet game last night. Do we just have to accept he will work hard but won’t be overly involved in games, and moving forward purely judge him on his goals return?

Though Bair and Le Fondre had more of an impact in comparison.

[Logie]

I thought Vente played well last night. The amount of runs he makes is quite incredible but the service is just not there. Some of Boyle’s crosses to pick him out were a bit woeful. I think with the right service next season vente scores a barrel load of goals imo.

[The Harp Awakes]

Makes runs into space constantly but we never seem to play him in. Worked really hard last night as well but nothing came off for him. We know he can finish and I think he will be a big player for us next season.

[BILLYHIBS]

Still not seeing it lacks physicality pace height awareness predatory instinct and desire the game largely passed him by last night

Happy to be proved wrong but has played the last two games as striker two shots off target

Needs to seize the moment and start grabbing games by the scruff of the neck and stick the ball in the net

8 goals in 35 appearances not bad from a limited service and played out of position but should and can be better

Might benefit from a full preseason as often looks knackered after 60 minutes and does put in a shift

[Unseen work]

He just doesn’t affect games enough.

Defenders look like they have such an easy night marking him, every single game. I heard people saying build the team around him and when we get other players in, he’s got bloody Maolida, Marcondes, Boyle and Youan supplying him!

He doesn’t even look like scoring half the time. ALF comes on in games and you always think he’s going to at least create something. Even a big physical powerhouse up top like Bakayoko at Dundee, Bair at Motherwell etc would score far more for us.

8 goals is poor.

I reckon Campbell would have more as a centre forward in those amount of games.

Aberdeen have played a 16 year old off the bench the last 2 games and even he’s now scored 2.

[Iain G]

Makes runs into space constantly but we never seem to play him in. Worked really hard last night as well but nothing came off for him. We know he can finish and I think he will be a big player for us next season.

Imagine him with a Latapy or Scott Allan playing in behind and threading him those passes. I don't think he is the kind of player to make much for himself but would benefit from good service from midfield and the wings.

[Northernhibee]

In this league you’ve got to make chances for yourself, whether that’s through pace, intelligence, or brute strength. Even work rate will do.

Venue doesn’t excel in any of those areas.

[blackpoolhibs]

I thought he was part of a team that did very well last night. :top marks

[Sergio sledge]

Miovski has 42 goals in 2 seasons while Aberdeen have been largely woeful.

New team, league and country doesn't excuse lack of first touch, passing ability, pace, and just general involvement. Doidge would've got slaughtered if he ever tried as little as Vente has been.

Largely woeful? They finished 3rd last season.... Goodwin had a real sticky patch in the middle of the season losing 9 of 11 games, but he had them 3rd at the end of November before the bad run and he was sacked.

I think the comparison is a little unfair, Miovski came into a team that was playing well (for most of the season) and finished 3rd, so his "settling in season" was in a team in much better form than we have. Vente has been brought into a team which clearly isn't playing to his strengths and and is in really poor form.

I don't think he's happy here to be honest (not really surprising given the form we've been on), he was out of the changing room and onto the team bus after the Ross County defeat within a few minutes of the end of the game probably 20-25 mins before anyone else and his body language on the pitch has been poor for a while.

Hopefully with a new manager in a new set up he can get his form back and start to score goal, which is what he was brought here to do.

[Unseen work]

Largely woeful? They finished 3rd last season.... Goodwin had a real sticky patch in the middle of the season losing 9 of 11 games, but he had them 3rd at the end of November before the bad run and he was sacked.

I think the comparison is a little unfair, Miovski came into a team that was playing well (for most of the season) and finished 3rd, so his "settling in season" was in a team in much better form than we have. Vente has been brought into a team which clearly isn't playing to his strengths and and is in really poor form.

I don't think he's happy here to be honest (not really surprising given the form we've been on), he was out of the changing room and onto the team bus after the Ross County defeat within a few minutes of the end of the game probably 20-25 mins before anyone else and his body language on the pitch has been poor for a while.

Hopefully with a new manager in a new set up he can get his form back and start to score goal, which is what he was brought here to do.

Miovski was signed in the summer by Goodwin after the shambles they had under Glass, not into a team on form at all.

[jacomo]

Makes runs into space constantly but we never seem to play him in. Worked really hard last night as well but nothing came off for him. We know he can finish and I think he will be a big player for us next season.


He looked like a natural penalty box predator when he came in, but like pretty much everyone did not kick on under Monty.

Can’t be written off just yet imo.

[MWHIBBIES]

Largely woeful? They finished 3rd last season.... Goodwin had a real sticky patch in the middle of the season losing 9 of 11 games, but he had them 3rd at the end of November before the bad run and he was sacked.

I think the comparison is a little unfair, Miovski came into a team that was playing well (for most of the season) and finished 3rd, so his "settling in season" was in a team in much better form than we have. Vente has been brought into a team which clearly isn't playing to his strengths and and is in really poor form.

I don't think he's happy here to be honest (not really surprising given the form we've been on), he was out of the changing room and onto the team bus after the Ross County defeat within a few minutes of the end of the game probably 20-25 mins before anyone else and his body language on the pitch has been poor for a while.

Hopefully with a new manager in a new set up he can get his form back and start to score goal, which is what he was brought here to do.

Yes, largely woeful. Decent run under Robson. Mince otherwise.

Vente was better last night. More involved.

[Jones28]

He just doesn’t affect games enough.

Defenders look like they have such an easy night marking him, every single game. I heard people saying build the team around him and when we get other players in, he’s got bloody Maolida, Marcondes, Boyle and Youan supplying him!

He doesn’t even look like scoring half the time. ALF comes on in games and you always think he’s going to at least create something. Even a big physical powerhouse up top like Bakayoko at Dundee, Bair at Motherwell etc would score far more for us.

8 goals is poor.

I reckon Campbell would have more as a centre forward in those amount of games.

Aberdeen have played a 16 year old off the bench the last 2 games and even he’s now scored 2.

The 4 players you mention, one of them has had a decent return this year. Marcondes has been very underwhelming, Boyle has been off it, Youan has been, well, Youan for most of the season.

Vente looked sharp under Johnson and like everyone else got worse under NM.

[Sergio sledge]

Miovski was signed in the summer by Goodwin after the shambles they had under Glass, not into a team on form at all.

I'd say that a new signing coming into a team which wins 14 of their first 21 games is a team that is on form. What happened the season before under a different manager doesn't really matter.

Vente came into a team which only won 6 of the first 21 games this season.

The comparison between Aberdeens form in Miovski's first season and our form in Vente's first season is unfair IMHO and I'm willing to give him a clean slate for next season.

[Sergio sledge]

Yes, largely woeful. Decent run under Robson. Mince otherwise.

Vente was better last night. More involved.

That's a bit unfair, they won 14 of their first 21 games in all competitions that season and were 3rd at the end of November before their really bad run started. I'll take that "mince" next season for sure.

Agree Vente was better last night. Hopefully he can get a couple of goals against Livi at the weekend and go into the summer with a bit of confidence.

[worcesterhibby]

Works hard, makes runs, doesn't get the passes. If you give him a chance he usually takes it. We should keep him.

[Unseen work]

I'd say that a new signing coming into a team which wins 14 of their first 21 games is a team that is on form. What happened the season before under a different manager doesn't really matter.

Vente came into a team which only won 6 of the first 21 games this season.

The comparison between Aberdeens form in Miovski's first season and our form in Vente's first season is unfair IMHO and I'm willing to give him a clean slate for next season.

Yeah but he never came into a team in form, he was part of the team that created the form.

Without him scoring goals from nothing or being clinical the form wouldn’t have been as good.

Two different things imo.

Vente again came into a team at the start of a season and was part of the problem with our form not being good enough

[easty]

He just doesn’t affect games enough.

Defenders look like they have such an easy night marking him, every single game. I heard people saying build the team around him and when we get other players in, he’s got bloody Maolida, Marcondes, Boyle and Youan supplying him!

He doesn’t even look like scoring half the time. ALF comes on in games and you always think he’s going to at least create something. Even a big physical powerhouse up top like Bakayoko at Dundee, Bair at Motherwell etc would score far more for us.

8 goals is poor.

I reckon Campbell would have more as a centre forward in those amount of games.

Aberdeen have played a 16 year old off the bench the last 2 games and even he’s now scored 2.

Laughable bringing Theo Bair into it.

Theo Bair signed for St Johnstone in Jan 22, and scored once in a season and a half, 38 games for them. Moved to Motherwell, and took another 6 months at Motherwell to actually start scoring.

And Bakayoko has less goals in more games than Vente this season

[EskbankHibby]

Works hard, makes runs, doesn't get the passes. If you give him a chance he usually takes it. We should keep him.

Yep

[Unseen work]

Laughable bringing Theo Bair into it.

Theo Bair signed for St Johnstone in Jan 22, and scored once in a season and a half, 38 games for them. Moved to Motherwell, and took another 6 months at Motherwell to actually start scoring.

And Bakayoko has less goals in more games than Vente this season

My point is they are both strikers that have more to their game than scoring and can create something out of nothing through runs in behind, strength etc.

Vente is a bit like Melkersen in the respect that he never looks like getting a chance. If the ball falls to him where he has space and no one really near him in the 18 yard box I think he’ll take it, but it rarely happens.

Even crosses in the box, he never seems to get across his man and get on the end of them.

[Bobby's Cinema]

He just doesn’t affect games enough.

Defenders look like they have such an easy night marking him, every single game. I heard people saying build the team around him and when we get other players in, he’s got bloody Maolida, Marcondes, Boyle and Youan supplying him!

He doesn’t even look like scoring half the time. ALF comes on in games and you always think he’s going to at least create something. Even a big physical powerhouse up top like Bakayoko at Dundee, Bair at Motherwell etc would score far more for us.

8 goals is poor.

I reckon Campbell would have more as a centre forward in those amount of games.

Aberdeen have played a 16 year old off the bench the last 2 games and even he’s now scored 2.
I agreed with a point on this thread earlier that of all the players we have that i think has potential to improve under a new manager its Vente - because we seen what he could offer during a spell - but he really does need to do more.

I thought it was noticeable his work rate and ground he was covering second half but he still never looked like influencing the game.

Personally I think he desperately needs someone up playing close alongside him. He is really struggling to be the focal point we need.

[easty]

My point is they are both strikers that have more to their game than scoring and can create something out of nothing through runs in behind, strength etc.

Vente is a bit like Melkersen in the respect that he never looks like getting a chance. If the ball falls to him where he has space and no one really near him in the 18 yard box I think he’ll take it, but it rarely happens.

Even crosses in the box, he never seems to get across his man and get on the end of them.

Theo Bair doesn’t have more to his game at all. He’s just got a bit of form.

Where were the people talking about Theo Bair last season? Or the first half of this season. Nobody was talking about what he had to his game. Emptied from St Johnstone and they didn’t care.

[SON OF PADDY]

Works hard, makes runs, doesn't get the passes. If you give him a chance he usually takes it. We should keep him.


Dylan Venta works his arse off for the team, if he gets the right service he'll score plenty goals for hibs.
I'm with you mate, it would be madness to move him on.

[Wull]

The first couple of months after he arrived he was looking like a bargain and there were posts about how we could make a couple of million selling him on. Admitted he hasn’t set the Heather on fire, but I definitely think he will come good again under a new regime.

[The Modfather]

Dylan Venta works his arse off for the team, if he gets the right service he'll score plenty goals for hibs.
I'm with you mate, it would be madness to move him on.

Wouldn’t most strikers flourish if they get the specific service Vente needs? Nisbet, Simon Murray and Shankland to name but 3 can all create their own chances and be more involved in the game without getting perfect service.

Vente has had Youan, Boyle, ALF, Marcondes Newell around him since at least January. The longer time goes on the more it seems he’s a limited poacher, which is almost extinct in modern football with most teams playing 1 up front. For £700k he needs to do more than wait for the perfect chance IMO.

[DinkyTwo]

Think he needs intelligent players around him. Would be interested to see his stats with / without ALF beside him

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[BILLYHIBS]

Wouldn’t most strikers flourish if they get the specific service Vente needs? Nisbet, Simon Murray and Shankland to name but 3 can all create their own chances and be more involved in the game without getting perfect service.

Vente has had Youan, Boyle, ALF, Marcondes Newell around him since at least January. The longer time goes on the more it seems he’s a limited poacher, which is almost extinct in modern football with most teams playing 1 up front. For £700k he needs to do more than wait for the perfect chance IMO.

Never really looks like scoring tbh not even close ALF came on had a spring in his step and was pressing their back line immediately standing 5’ 6 “ jumping 6’ 11” Vente doesn’t even jump for €1m needs to do more

[B.H.F.C]

Another game where he just didn’t have any impact in the final third. He rarely looks like doing anything and his touch wasn’t good enough. There was a point in the first half where he gave the ball away twice in about 10 seconds right on the edge of their box because his touch just wasn’t good enough.

The other players across that front three all impact the game. They’re a threat, even when not at their best. Le Fondre was only on 15 minutes last night, had the ball in the net albeit offside and had another shot, albeit a poor effort. Vente so rarely even has an effort on goal, never mind score a goal.

[Unseen work]

Theo Bair doesn’t have more to his game at all. He’s just got a bit of form.

Where were the people talking about Theo Bair last season? Or the first half of this season. Nobody was talking about what he had to his game. Emptied from St Johnstone and they didn’t care.

Respectfully disagree mate.

Last night both of them never scored, albeit Bair had one ruled offside. But Bair imo was the far bigger threat.

He troubled a couple of times with his pace in behind and then was at least a vocal point for them where he used his physicality.

A couple of times in the first half the ball went into Vente and he had a really poor touch and he offered zero threat in behind.

I really want Vente to come good, but he needs to do so much more imo to be our first pick centre forward

[The Modfather]

Another ineffective game. I don’t intend to keep singling him out each week but if he can’t shine away to relegated Livi what is going to change next season? What is it specifically he needs to in order to shine?

[Northernhibee]

Another ineffective game. I don’t intend to keep singling him out each week but if he can’t shine away to relegated Livi what is going to change next season? What is it specifically he needs to in order to shine?

He’s just a very badly scouted player like many others we’ve signed in the last two to two and a half seasons. Might work in a more technical league when he gets a bit more space, but in this league you need to be able to fashion out chances for yourself and through either a lack of suitable attributes or ability he can’t do that.

[Svengali]

He’s a thumbs down for me. For him to score it’s like we have to create the perfect chance for him.

Games pass him by, offers very little. Major disappointment and part of our poor recruitment. If we had signed him on a free or
Small fee we’d all probably agree that we need to let him go. His transfer fee feels like the reason to persevere with him.

A 37 yr old ALF was on 3 mins and had a shot. Vente had zero.

[JohnM1875]

He’s a thumbs down for me. For him to score it’s like we have to create the perfect chance for him.

Games pass him by, offers very little. Major disappointment and part of our poor recruitment. If we had signed him on a pre contract we’d all probably agree that we need to let him go. His transfer fee feels like the reason to persevere with him.

A 37 yr old ALF was on 3 mins and had a shot. Vente had zero.

Aye, it's not looking good for Vente at all.

Only thing I'm clinging on to is he wouldn't be the first player that's struggled to settle in their first season. See how things go after a pre-season and (hopefully) a new way of playing.

[Forza Fred]

As the saying goes…if you are not contributing, then you probably shouldn’t be there.

[Stuart93]

If we could recoup most of the fee we paid I’d sel him

[HIBS NUTS]

I would rather get anderson on a free from Livingston, than keep playing VENTE.

[B.H.F.C]

He just does so, so little in a game. One good touch to play Boyle in first half but that was about your lot.

I can’t recall another striker that has so little in terms of efforts on goal. Having a shot is rarity never mind scoring an actual goal.

[Hiber-nation]

No movement, no fitness, no quality. He looked so good at the beginning of the season as well. One wee injury can't have done this to him.

[thebakerboy]

Ventes problem is that Montgomery persuaded him to track back and defend , not his game , today saw him tackling at right back , the ball broke and we had nothing up front play ball out to. Think under another manager who turns him back into a penalty box player and gets all this other rubbish out of his head he would come good.

[erin go bragh]

Great run second half but never took the shot at the edge of the box, then tackled, ball was still in play on the right touch line but he was still in the box looking at his feet, no awareness of the ball to his right. Alf looks mote like the 700k signing and it looks like its time to cut our loses on Vente unfortunately.

[Del Boy]

Massive disappointment, if we can get half our money back I’d take it.

[JimBHibees]

Ventes problem is that Montgomery persuaded him to track back and defend , not his game , today saw him tackling at right back , the ball broke and we had nothing up front play ball out to. Think under another manager who turns him back into a penalty box player and gets all this other rubbish out of his head he would come good.

Monty getting blamed for him being bang average genuinely don’t get it. Alf came on and looked ten times more of a threat.

[PHeffernan]

Cabraja's form dropped dramatically when his father passed away suddenly and at a youngish age, his head was obviously nowhere near ER due to this and he was rightly allowed to move in the next window to be nearer his home and family.

No, at 27 years old, Cabraja just isn't very good which is evidenced by him playing only 549 minutes in 8 games for Rijeka this season.
On 13 occasions he hasn't even made the bench.
Has one year left on his contract and I think he is in real trouble when that expires.

[EdinMike]

No, at 27 years old, Cabraja just isn't very good which is evidenced by him playing only 549 minutes in 8 games for Rijeka this season.
On 13 occasions he hasn't even made the bench.
Has one year left on his contract and I think he is in real trouble when that expires.

I would have said Čabraja was one of those players in 10 years I wouldn’t have been able to remember, however it’s been a year since he left and I completely forgot about him…

[sauzee1989]

I would have said Čabraja was one of those players in 10 years I wouldn’t have been able to remember, however it’s been a year since he left and I completely forgot about him…

It was a strange one! He looked superb on his debut at st Johnstone and even some said he was the best left back they had seen since Murphy. He never did produce the same performance again

[BILLYHIBS]

It was a strange one! He looked superb on his debut at st Johnstone and even some said he was the best left back they had seen since Murphy. He never did produce the same performance again

Was fine up until his father passed then his form just went off a cliff making loads of errors and lapses in concentration

Must have been difficult for him miles from home in a strange country

Hopefully can get himself focused and back on track

[Donegal Hibby]

Monty getting blamed for him being bang average genuinely don’t get it. Alf came on and looked ten times more of a threat.

I do Jim tbh , when you play a penalty box striker in midfield it's obviously going to have an effect on him .

Over the course of the season we have played 17 games were we have had only 3 or less shots on target , 9 with 3 , 1 with 2 , 6 with 1 and 1 we didn't have a single shot on target which was against St Johnstone.

That's almost half the season games we struggled with shots on target.

The last game against livvy we had 3 and even when Alf came on I didn't think he done enough either like Vente though is there maybe a problem in we don't have a creative midfielder like Scotty Allan who could play a defence splitting pass ? .

Don't know how accurate this is though it has Youan has top for assists , followed by Newell who you'd expect as he takes most of our set pieces and then Vente who imo is a poacher.

Still think there's a player there in Vente and we maybe lack creativity . Going to miss Youan if he goes too !

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/teams/hibernian/top-scorers

[Springbank]

I do Jim tbh , when you play a penalty box striker in midfield it's obviously going to have an effect on him .

Over the course of the season we have played 17 games were we have had only 3 or less shots on target , 9 with 3 , 1 with 2 , 6 with 1 and 1 we didn't have a single shot on target which was against St Johnstone.

That's almost half the season games we struggled with shots on target.

The last game against livvy we had 3 and even when Alf came on I didn't think he done enough either like Vente though is there maybe a problem in we don't have a creative midfielder like Scotty Allan who could play a defence splitting pass ? .

Don't know how accurate this is though it has Youan has top for assists , followed by Newell who you'd expect as he takes most of our set pieces and then Vente who imo is a poacher.

Still think there's a player there in Vente and we maybe lack creativity . Going to miss Youan if he goes too !

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/teams/hibernian/top-scorers

I think Maolida showed up both Youan and Vente, with his goal-a-game

[Donegal Hibby]

I think Maolida showed up both Youan and Vente, with his goal-a-game

Maolida is an extraordinary talent . We were lucky to get him in fairness . Though Youan has probably our most creative player and his contribution is going to be a big miss just like Maolida's too. Don't see alot of creativity in the team if Youan goes . Another problem to be addressed in the summer.

[BILLYHIBS]

I do Jim tbh , when you play a penalty box striker in midfield it's obviously going to have an effect on him .

Over the course of the season we have played 17 games were we have had only 3 or less shots on target , 9 with 3 , 1 with 2 , 6 with 1 and 1 we didn't have a single shot on target which was against St Johnstone.

That's almost half the season games we struggled with shots on target.

The last game against livvy we had 3 and even when Alf came on I didn't think he done enough either like Vente though is there maybe a problem in we don't have a creative midfielder like Scotty Allan who could play a defence splitting pass ? .

Don't know how accurate this is though it has Youan has top for assists , followed by Newell who you'd expect as he takes most of our set pieces and then Vente who imo is a poacher.

Still think there's a player there in Vente and we maybe lack creativity . Going to miss Youan if he goes too !

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/teams/hibernian/top-scorers

You are defending Vente like you did Monty defending the indefensible

Vente dropped back into the hole never looks like scoring not even close he is not even looking to see if anything is on and doesn’t even show a strikers eye for goal or a predatory instinct his last two games he was played up front with Maolida the result one weak shot off target versus Motherwell

Guys like Super Ally Macleod and Pat McGinlay were always looking to play on the front foot and get a shot away when playing in midfield

I am sorry I want him to succeed but I am just not seeing it he is too passive lacks pace height aggression needs to get in front of his man and get a shot away guys like Maolida and Shankland were scoring goals for fun out of nothing in this league

Time for Vente to wake up and smell the coffee and for the new Manager to give him a good shake

It is almost as though he can only score when the ball is presented to him on a plate for a tap in

As others have said Alf showed him the way in his brief cameos chasing and harrying defenders into mistakes and letting them know he is there Vente does none of those things

[HibbyAndy]

You are defending Vente like you did Monty defending the indefensible

Vente dropped back into the hole never looks like scoring not even close he is not even looking to see if anything is on and doesn’t even show a strikers eye for goal or a predatory instinct his last two games he was played up front with Maolida the result one weak shot off target versus Motherwell

Guys like Super Ally Macleod and Pat McGinlay were always looking to play on the front foot and get a shot away when playing in midfield

I am sorry I want him to succeed but I am just not seeing it he is too passive lacks pace height aggression needs to get in front of his man and get a shot away guys like Maolida and Shankland were scoring goals for fun out of nothing in this league

Time for Vente to wake up and smell the coffee and for the new Manager to give him a good shake

It is almost as though he can only score when the ball is presented to him on a plate a tap in

As others have said Alf showed him the way in his brief cameos chasing and harrying defenders into mistakes and letting him know he is there Vente does none of those things



McGinlay eh , Now their was a proper box to box dynamic midfielder that scored plenty goals for Hibs

[Paul1642]

I still think there’s a player in there for us. He scored a fair few for his old club who were a bottom half team so it wasn’t just that he could do it in a dominant team. When he first joined us he looked the real deal and scored a few.

Then it all went downhill from there and I’ll admit he’s been very anonymous in most games.

I’m still willing to see how he gets on under whoever the new manger is. Strikers are often very confidence based players and hopefully a few goals pre season and in the league cup and playing in a setup that suits him a bit more sets him up for a good season.

He wouldn’t be the first striker to turn on the goals a bit later into his time at a club.

[marinello59]

I still think there’s a player in there for us. He scored a fair few for his old club who were a bottom half team so it wasn’t just that he could do it in a dominant team. When he first joined us he looked the real deal and scored a few.

Then it all went downhill from there and I’ll admit he’s been very anonymous in most games.

I’m still willing to see how he gets on under whoever the new manger is. Strikers are often very confidence based players and hopefully a few goals pre season and in the league cup and playing in a setup that suits him a bit more sets him up for a good season.

He wouldn’t be the first striker to turn on the goals a bit later into his time at a club.

I look forward to seeing what he can do under a new manager. The difference between the player we had when he first arrived and the player we had under Montgomery was massive. Like you say, a few confidence boosting pre-season performances could make all the difference.

[Doh Rae Me]

McGinlay eh , Now their was a proper box to box dynamic midfielder that scored plenty goals for Hibs

Absolutely loved watching Pat play.
Wonder what his value would be today?

[Wilson]

Absolutely loved watching Pat play.
Wonder what his value would be today?

7.5 million.

[BILLYHIBS]

7.5 million.

Was Celtic’s top scorer and POTY but Tommy Burns didn’t fancy him so we bought him back for 420k

No like us 😂

[Donegal Hibby]

You are defending Vente like you did Monty defending the indefensible

Vente dropped back into the hole never looks like scoring not even close he is not even looking to see if anything is on and doesn’t even show a strikers eye for goal or a predatory instinct his last two games he was played up front with Maolida the result one weak shot off target versus Motherwell

Guys like Super Ally Macleod and Pat McGinlay were always looking to play on the front foot and get a shot away when playing in midfield

I am sorry I want him to succeed but I am just not seeing it he is too passive lacks pace height aggression needs to get in front of his man and get a shot away guys like Maolida and Shankland were scoring goals for fun out of nothing in this league

Time for Vente to wake up and smell the coffee and for the new Manager to give him a good shake

It is almost as though he can only score when the ball is presented to him on a plate for a tap in

As others have said Alf showed him the way in his brief cameos chasing and harrying defenders into mistakes and letting them know he is there Vente does none of those things

As I said 17 of our games we have either had 3 or less shots on target in games , is this a striker problem or a lack of creativity ? .

The Vente we had at the start is very different to the one we ended up under Monty . I'm still hopeful a new manager , good pre-season and we might see the vente who had five goals from 5 shots from .

Think there's a player there who we haven't entirely used properly for long parts of last season and I'm not ready to write him off just yet .👍

[ian cruise]

Was Celtic’s top scorer and POTY but Tommy Burns didn’t fancy him so we bought him back for 420k

No like us 😂

Is that not Similar to Darren Mcgregor, Rangers POTY then released on a free?

Who should we go for this season?

[BILLYHIBS]

Is that not Similar to Darren Mcgregor, Rangers POTY then released on a free?

Who should we go for this season?

Simon Murray obviously 😂

[HibbyAndy]

Absolutely loved watching Pat play.
Wonder what his value would be today?

Me tae mate

Pat would be worth a few million anyway

[HIBS NUTS]

As I said 17 of our games we have either had 3 or less shots on target in games , is this a striker problem or a lack of creativity ? .

The Vente we had at the start is very different to the one we ended up under Monty . I'm still hopeful a new manager , good pre-season and we might see the vente who had five goals from 5 shots from .

Think there's a player there who we haven't entirely used properly for long parts of last season and I'm not ready to write him off just yet .👍
I woudnt write him off, but he’s been a huge disappointment so far.
Very rarely contributes anything

[JammyDoidger]

As I said 17 of our games we have either had 3 or less shots on target in games , is this a striker problem or a lack of creativity ? .

The Vente we had at the start is very different to the one we ended up under Monty . I'm still hopeful a new manager , good pre-season and we might see the vente who had five goals from 5 shots from .

Think there's a player there who we haven't entirely used properly for long parts of last season and I'm not ready to write him off just yet .👍

He's just not very good tbh, like others have said he lacks height, aggression, pace, literally doesn't look like scoring, or even creating anything by himself, maolida came in and scored a good few because he could create things for himself and is simply a much better player. If we could get half our money back I'd take it.

[Since452]

I've not given up on him yet. Think he'll improve under a better manager.

[superfurryhibby]

He's just not very good tbh, like others have said he lacks height, aggression, pace, literally doesn't look like scoring, or even creating anything by himself, maolida came in and scored a good few because he could create things for himself and is simply a much better player. If we could get half our money back I'd take it.

Tend to agree with this. Vente is an absolutely dire footballer.

[Kaiser_Sauzee]

I don't think we can judge Vente under the Montgomery regime. I'd give him more time under another manager. He strikes me as a poacher, not something he can do if being asked to play deep.

[jacomo]

He's just not very good tbh, like others have said he lacks height, aggression, pace, literally doesn't look like scoring, or even creating anything by himself, maolida came in and scored a good few because he could create things for himself and is simply a much better player. If we could get half our money back I'd take it.


One of the things that damns NM is that none of the players really improved under him.

I think DV deserves a fresh start.

[Donegal Hibby]

He's just not very good tbh, like others have said he lacks height, aggression, pace, literally doesn't look like scoring, or even creating anything by himself, maolida came in and scored a good few because he could create things for himself and is simply a much better player. If we could get half our money back I'd take it.

Firstly I don't think it's necessary to have height as he's a poacher not a target man . If your a poacher do you need to be blessed with pace either ? . Don't think he's that slow anyhow .

Alot of games we haven't really been creating alot of chances last season . And as to making comparisons with Maolida and Vente you've got to remember ones moved twice for a combined total of 14 mill and the other for 700,000 . Abit unfair comparison in truth.

I wouldn't be wanting to take an offer of half what we paid for him just yet . New manager and a good pre-season with us playing him properly with a creative midfielder added to the ranks in the summer and hopefully we can get him scoring goals again .

I definitely think he has it in him to do so like this one which is clinical at 2:54 ....
https://youtu.be/MAbstZE-N94?si=uCvz3gViIEIVcAn6

[worcesterhibby]

Tend to agree with this. Vente is an absolutely dire footballer.


Disagree.. playing (when he got a game) under a dire manager.

https://youtu.be/MToDR18Nr90?si=GVApssQ7X8EJ-vvh

[matty_f]

I'm glad to see folk defending Vente after a really poor season, will be good to see that extended to Levitt, Miller, Rocky etc as well. 😁

[superfurryhibby]

Disagree.. playing (when he got a game) under a dire manager.

https://youtu.be/MToDR18Nr90?si=GVApssQ7X8EJ-vvh

I'll grant him that, but still not seeing it. The highlights reel, fair enough but a good player adapts their game, they step up a level, unless they have previously found their level. A good player creates their own chances. Despite us being pretty gash, we tended to dominate possession in most games at ER outside of the OF and Hearts. Vente still saw plenty of the ball, even if he was played in a range of roles.

I would take the likes of Murray, the archetypal journeyman, over Vente any day. For the mopney we spent and the wages that no doubt accompanied it, it's been a very poor signing. I doubt he'll be at Hibs next season, but if he is he'll get my support.

[easty]

I'm glad to see folk defending Vente after a really poor season, will be good to see that extended to Levitt, Miller, Rocky etc as well. 😁

I still think Vente and Levitt could come good. Smart footballers who’ve had a poor season.

Miller I’m unconvinced by, and Rocky is the first player I’d replace if I had the choice.

[Unseen work]

I still think Vente and Levitt could come good. Smart footballers who’ve had a poor season.

Miller I’m unconvinced by, and Rocky is the first player I’d replace if I had the choice.

I think with Levitt it’s obvious he has quality in terms of his touch, passing, shooting and just all round technique. He also has vision that most midfielders would want.

His/our issue is playing to his strengths.

He’s not good defensively, very immobile and not strong which means we would have to almost build the team around him which I can’t see happening

[Smartie]

I still think Vente and Levitt could come good. Smart footballers who’ve had a poor season.

Miller I’m unconvinced by, and Rocky is the first player I’d replace if I had the choice.

All these players strike me as players you have to have a specific plan for… or maybe have a team that can carry one of at a time.

They look like players that are never going to work together in a million years though.

[easty]

I think with Levitt it’s obvious he has quality in terms of his touch, passing, shooting and just all round technique. He also has vision that most midfielders would want.

His/our issue is playing to his strengths.

He’s not good defensively, very immobile and not strong which means we would have to almost build the team around him which I can’t see happening


All these players strike me as players you have to have a specific plan for… or maybe have a team that can carry one of at a time.

They look like players that are never going to work together in a million years though.

I was delighted when we signed Levitt to be honest.

Dundee Utd didn't build a team around him when he came on loan from Man Utd. He was their best player in his first season. He's got 13 caps for Wales too, who won't be building a team around him.

He wasn't good for us at all last season, but given he's shown he can be a good player at this level, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that a better manager can get him going again.

The home game vs Luzern I thought he, and Newell, were outstanding in the middle. On the ball and off it.

[Donegal Hibby]

I'm glad to see folk defending Vente after a really poor season, will be good to see that extended to Levitt, Miller, Rocky etc as well. 😁

I don't mind Miller or Rocky and think both could be useful squad players , Levitt though as been the biggest disappointment so far and if we are going to be playing Newell regularly I think should be one we try and move on if possible . Has offered alot less than the other players mentioned.

[Unseen work]

I was delighted when we signed Levitt to be honest.

Dundee Utd didn't build a team around him when he came on loan from Man Utd. He was their best player in his first season. He's got 13 caps for Wales too, who won't be building a team around him.

He wasn't good for us at all last season, but given he's shown he can be a good player at this level, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that a better manager can get him going again.

The home game vs Luzern I thought he, and Newell, were outstanding in the middle. On the ball and off it.

I was also delighted, thought it was great business.

What I mean by building a team around him is just having players in midfield that compliment his strengths/weaknesses. For example not playing him in a 2 man midfield with Newell 🤣

NMW would and Newell alongside Levitt would likely work with NMW energy but then the issue is who supports the strikers/wingers.

We’ll likely sign a ‘10’ who’s best attributes won’t be the defensive side, so you’re then talking the 10, Levitt and another. The other would have to be brilliant defensively and full of energy.

Interesting Fuchs is out of contract and was a good with Levitt. A similar player, Dan Phillips of St Johnstone, is also out of contract.

[Since452]

Almost every single player regressed under Montgomery. Can't think of a single player who improved under him. I think the likes of Vente and Levitt should be kept on. I personally I rate them both.

[worcesterhibby]

Oh for a manager that knows how to get 100% effort out of players and is flexible enough to change shape and tactics to suit the players he has to pick from.

Solid defensively, quick to break, always looking to get the ball to our forwards quickly, rather than playing sideways and backwards. Midfielders who play on the half turn, who love driving into space with the ball and who work hard when not in possesion. A team who keeps their shape and want to impose their will on the match.

A PROPER manager would have come 5th, maybe 4th with the squad we had last season. With the poor VAR/refereeing decisions we got in too many matches I maybe would have accepted 6th at the split and 5th at the end of the season...but 8th... deary me.

[Smartie]

I was also delighted, thought it was great business.

What I mean by building a team around him is just having players in midfield that compliment his strengths/weaknesses. For example not playing him in a 2 man midfield with Newell 🤣

NMW would and Newell alongside Levitt would likely work with NMW energy but then the issue is who supports the strikers/wingers.

We’ll likely sign a ‘10’ who’s best attributes won’t be the defensive side, so you’re then talking the 10, Levitt and another. The other would have to be brilliant defensively and full of energy.

Interesting Fuchs is out of contract and was a good with Levitt. A similar player, Dan Phillips of St Johnstone, is also out of contract.

I just don't see a midfield with Levitt playing that role not getting run ragged.

He's like a modern day Chic Charnley - lovely skills, great touch, great passing - but to play midfield you have to have at least something by way of physicality and he has absolutely nothing.