Blue Murder?

[Dan Sarf]

According to the Daily Mail (who stole the story from the Telegraph) "a blue card is set to be introduced in professional football as part of sin-bin trials, marking the first new colour of card widely used in 50 years.
The revolutionary move will be announced by International Football Association Board on Friday as part of new measures that will see players removed from play for 10 minutes if they commit a cynical foul or show dissent towards a match official.
The protocols will add a new wrinkle to dismissals as players would now be sent off if they receive two blue cards in a game or a combination of a blue and a yellow.

The report goes on to say that elite trials could begin as soon as the summer, though top-tier competition will be excluded from initial testing."

Sounds interesting.

How about a Tartan get-out-of-jail card exclusively for the Ugly Sisters?

[MelbourneHibees]

Cynical foul sounds like it's very open to interpretation...

[LaMotta]

Sounds like a recipe for disaster - imagine the weekly debate about whether it should have been a blue or yellow/blue or red?

[Hibs4185]

Sin bin for dissent is well needed. I think this is a great idea.

Sin bin for diving as well would be another good idea

[JohnM1875]

Sounds like a recipe for disaster - imagine the weekly debate about whether it should have been a blue or yellow/blue or red?

Agree. Sounds awkward the way they're looking to do it.

Like the idea of a sin bin type thing though, as I genuinely hate ‘professional fouls’

[wookie70]

An opportunity for refs to show their true colours in Scotland. Orange would have worked too

[Greenbeard]

Something along these lines is long overdue. “Professional” fouling is blatant cheating and deserves more than a yellow.

[MikeyS]

Something along these lines is long overdue. “Professional” fouling is blatant cheating and deserves more than a yellow.

Did you think Moriah-Welsh shouldve been sent off last night??

[Since90+2]

Not for me. The game is fine as it is.

[Greenbeard]

Did you think Moriah-Welsh shouldve been sent off last night??

Sin binned, yes.

[VoltaireHibs]

Agree. Sounds awkward the way they're looking to do it.

Like the idea of a sin bin type thing though, as I genuinely hate ‘professional fouls’

I'd give them for the blatant Jersey tugs that stop multiple attacking moves. Utterly sick of that

[Unseen work]

I really hate the way football is going.

[500miles]

I think referees have enough ways to make the game all about them already.

[Bostonhibby]

Why don't they just call it the hun card and be done with it?

I don't like the way the game in Scotland is going either, the current officials shouldn't be anywhere near VAR.

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[Gettin' Auld]

If players get sin-binned for dissent towards officials, most games will become 5 a side

[JohnM1875]

If players get sin-binned for dissent towards officials, most games will become 5 a side

Think that's probably their point. I couldn't care less about dissent towards officials if I'm honest. It's all said in the heat of the moment.

Especially when some officials are total weapons like Collum. The way he stood and eyeballed Marcondes against St Mirren really pissed me off. Prick.

[SteveHFC]

Will just be another way for our refs to handicap what ever team are playing the OF


We can't be far from just awarding them the points and don't bother playing

[VoltaireHibs]

And some teams will be judged more cynical than others. Just another tool in the lodge refs box.

[VoltaireHibs]

Will just be another way for our refs to handicap what ever team are playing the OF


We can't be far from just awarding them the points and don't bother playing

Exactly. Teams don't have to be great to beat the old firm, they have to be perfect, because if they aren't then damn sure they'll get strategically penalised by our refs.

[Newry Hibs]

How and who will time the 10 minutes?

If a team is down to 10 with sin-bin, will their players suddenly be very injured or would the 4th official keep a separate timer?

[Since90+2]

How and who will time the 10 minutes?

If a team is down to 10 with sin-bin, will their players suddenly be very injured or would the 4th official keep a separate timer?

Great point. Never thought of that

With VAR and this we could end up with 20 minutes of injury time.

[RyeSloan]

How and who will time the 10 minutes?

If a team is down to 10 with sin-bin, will their players suddenly be very injured or would the 4th official keep a separate timer?

Indeed. What constitutes 10 minutes of there is a 4 minutes VAR review or injury in the middle of the sin bin period?

And it could also hugely impact play while the 10 men do their best to run the clock down.

While no one likes the professional foul I’m not sure this is the answer to it.

[One Day Soon]

I think referees have enough ways to make the game all about them already.

:applause: This

[Ron D Hibbie]

They are chasing people away as it is without this nonsense.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Sounds chaotic. A yellow for a technicality like talking back or time wasting could still be a yellow but a yellow for a nasty foul would be sin bin material.
Introducing another card colour isn't necessary imo.

[JohnM1875]

How and who will time the 10 minutes?

If a team is down to 10 with sin-bin, will their players suddenly be very injured or would the 4th official keep a separate timer?

Really good point.

To be honest, all I want is something done for the ‘professional foul’ it's cheating. Simple as that.

[Radge70]

Would be good alongside stopping the clock every time there is a break in play. If not then it will just be more time wasting frustration during the 10 minutes the player is in the bin. You could have a 10 minute injury break as soon as the player goes off which would be 6 or 7 minutes added on at the end when it's 11 v 11.

[superfurryhibby]

Not for me. For many of the reasons already mentioned.

[Paul1642]

Forgive my cynicism for thinking this will impact Hibs negativity.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Will it be trialed first, to examine how it goes? Perhaps do it in one country for a season before deciding whether to implement it globally. It’s a big change.

[jakedance]

Hibs might as well just pack it in if this comes in. I’ve zero faith it will be used fairly.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Hibs might as well just pack it in if this comes in. I’ve zero faith it will be used fairly.

Ach, we will all be fine with six men at Ibrox and Parkhead.

[Glory Lurker]

Change for change's sake. I'd bet most fans think this sounds a rank idea, not that that would stop it being implemented.

[King conrad]

What would happen if you got a blue card then a yellow? Would that mean a sending off?

[truehibernian]

Doesn’t matter what colour of cards they have, it’s the inept standard of officials that needs revamped and changed in Scotland.

[Bostonhibby]

Penalty to the huns

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[GordonHFC]

It will only be used in games where the ugly sisters are not winning and its late in the game.

[hibbytam]

I'm not against the idea of a sin bin to replace most of what is currently a red card. There's too many red cards being given for very little(2 basically nothing bookings say), and worse things being only getting a booking (taking someone out with no intention of getting the ball).

But I have very little faith that this will be done well, especially with the refs in Scotland

[Paul1642]

I'm not against the idea of a sin bin to replace most of what is currently a red card. There's too many red cards being given for very little(2 basically nothing bookings say), and worse things being only getting a booking (taking someone out with no intention of getting the ball).

But I have very little faith that this will be done well, especially with the refs in Scotland

Whilst I’m generally against this idea, if it was implicated in the way you suggest it might not be so bad.

Certain % of current red cards now = blue card. I’m okay with this.

The problem for me is if even a small % of current yellow cards become blue cards it could become stupid.

What also hasn’t been mentioned is will blue cards contribute towards an eventual ban in the way that yellow card do?

[B.H.F.C]

Sounds terrible. They can’t even get the yellows and reds right.

[Carheenlea]

Scottish Football has proven that we can’t be trusted with VAR, so how anyone can truly believe this new addition won’t be similarly abused to favour the two clubs who hold the power of influence.

Excellent news for the Old Firm, alarm bells for the rest of us.

[RyeSloan]

What would happen if you got a blue card then a yellow? Would that mean a sending off?

Seems the plan is two of any yellow or blue = red

[degenerated]

Why don't they just call it the hun card and be done with it?

I don't like the way the game in Scotland is going either, the current officials shouldn't be anywhere near VAR.

Sent from my SM-A750FN using TapatalkThe current officials should t be anywhere near a whistle or a football pitch either.

[Bostonhibby]

The current officials should t be anywhere near a whistle or a football pitch either.Yep, in the wrong hands a whistle is a dangerous weapon[emoji6]

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[Eyrie]

Ach, we will all be fine with six men at Ibrox and Parkhead.

I remember when Hearts tried that at Ibrox.

[Kato]

Yep, in the wrong hands a whistle is a dangerous weapon[emoji6]

Sent from my SM-A750FN using TapatalkThe weapons have the whistle in their mouth. Makes a change from a flute I suppose.

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[Bostonhibby]

The weapons have the whistle in their mouth. Makes a change from a flute I suppose.

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkThat's the kind of whistle I had in mind!

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[HoboHarry]

Why don't they just call it the hun card and be done with it?

I don't like the way the game in Scotland is going either, the current officials shouldn't be anywhere near VAR.

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So an orange card and a blue card?

[Bostonhibby]

So an orange card and a blue card?With a big yellow streak down the middle.

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[Jim44]

Football is already seriously flawed and this crazy proposal to further empower incompetent and impartial referees is another nail in the coffin.

[Hibee Mac]

Oh what I would do to get back to the late 90s / early 2000s era of football.

No funny business, just real football. I once thought the beautiful game was unbreakable, but I was wrong. VAR had gone a long way towards ruining football for me, something like this would be even worse.

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[Greensunshine]

I think it’s long overdue. A few tweaks here and there are needed to make the game more exciting for a new generation of supporters.

[hibee]

“FIFA wishes to clarify that reports of the so-called 'blue card' at elite levels of football are incorrect and premature.

Any such trials, if implemented, should be limited to testing in a responsible manner at lower levels, a position that FIFA intends to reiterate when this agenda item is discussed at the IFAB AGM on 2 March.”

https://x.com/fifamedia/status/1755702520901423327?s=61&t=NzwNqgQPmkQf9xtor6QZnA

[Stubbsy90+2]

Awful idea.

10 mins of a team wasting time, feigning injury etc until their player gets to come back on? No thanks.

[Greenbeard]

Awful idea.

10 mins of a team wasting time, feigning injury etc until their player gets to come back on? No thanks.
You get that to a degree in rugby - teams with a player in the bin not rushing, scrum resets etc., all to wind down the clock. But the pros outweigh the cons.
Granted, in rugby the clock is stopped on the ref's instruction so it is 10 mins actual game time in the bin, but in football, although we don't benefit from hearing or seeing in real time what time is being added, the time to be added is being continually monitored (albeit it seems not as accurately as in rugby), so that will presumably apply for the 10 minute sin bin period too.
It's a trial.

[Pagan Hibernia]

If it is brought in there's only one certainty, Old Firm players will get nothing when it should be a yellow, a yellow when it should be a blue, and a blue when it should be a red.

No thanks

[SeanWilson]

I just think it’s another tool for the referee to not do their job properly. If the referee was any good, and garnered respect from the players, there’d be no requirement. Look at the rugby model. Far more complex decisions are made in far less time, players respect and never back chat ref. Never going to happen as we have complete and utter balloons running the game.

[BoomtownHibees]

The idea for blue cards has been postponed

[MKHIBEE]

If it is brought in there's only one certainty, Old Firm players will get nothing when it should be a yellow, a yellow when it should be a blue, and a blue when it should be a red.

No thanks
And Rangers still won’t have penalties awarded against them at home.

[Smartie]

I’m open to the idea in principle.

There are offences in the game that see the “sinned against” team receive no real recompense for the situation. Ok, stuff like a good foul or a good yellow card to take become part of the game and everybody knows and accepts what the rules are but it still sometimes feels like injustices are done even when the correct decisions are made.

Having said that, I felt similarly about VAR and the absolutely minging implementation of everything in Scotland only leads me to believe that it will end being another tool used to advantage 2 teams.

[Glory Lurker]

The idea for blue cards has been postponed

So was the 95 NYD game.

[scm70nyd1973]

So if say 5 players surround a referee and all get sin binned does the game get abandoned as IIRC that happens if one team go down to a particular number.

That would have made the “Souness” game in ‘86 very interesting 🤭

[Alfiembra]

Don’t bother with blue cards at all, if a player receives a yellow card he gets an automatic 10 minutes in the sin bin as well. Have a five foul system like basketball.

[nonshinyfinish]

Don’t bother with blue cards at all, if a player receives a yellow card he gets an automatic 10 minutes in the sin bin as well. Have a five foul system like basketball.

Is that five fouls and you get sent off, or is it five fouls and you can't play anymore but the team isn't down a man (as in basketball)? If it's the latter, are you also instituting unlimited rolling subs like in basketball?

[big gogs]

An opportunity for refs to show their true colours in Scotland. Orange would have worked too
With white gloves and bowler hats.

[Onion]

Biggest problem in Scottish football is the officials, so why on earth would we want Tham to have even MORE powers and discretion to disrupt and corrupt in the name of preserving OF dominance ? We should be pushing for LESS powers, not more. Get rid of VAR, simplify the rules so refs are less involved in interpreting what is an is not an offence.

[Keith_M]

Penalty to the huns



Don't you mean 'Penalty to Celtc'?

[Bostonhibby]

Don't you mean 'Penalty to Celtc'?[emoji1]

Don't know, I just made it up!

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