Two tiered policing of Easter Road.

[Chorley Hibee]

On the pitch, there's quite evidently a two tiered refereeing policy in Scottish football.

Off the pitch, there seems to be a similar approach to policing certain teams and their support.

That's now both of the Old Firm turned Easter Road into something resembling bonfire night in the last few weeks, whilst, only last night, two burly stewards routed through the little handbag of my 14 year old niece!

Their support force entry, overcrowd the stand, take banned pyro into the stadium and hang flags wherever they wish. They're a law unto themselves, and each week the authorities (and the other clubs) help facilitate their behaviour by turning a blind eye.

To add insult to injury, we then have the continued silence from our own club on the matter, and them having the cheek to turn down requests for a tifo from their own support.

It's about time this spineless shower of a board spoke up, instead of being complicit in the whole sham - be it refereeing or policing.

[Jones28]

The only way to stop this is strict liability.

Which we voted against.

[LunasBoots]

We've heard all the talk but the talks turned into nothing, a celtic fans hair was set on fire in the away end last night, it needs clamped down on before someone's seriously hurt

[hibsbollah]

We've heard all the talk but the talks turned into nothing, a celtic fans hair was set on fire in the away end last night, it needs clamped down on before someone's seriously hurt

Bojang was in their end?!

[blackpoolhibs]

We've heard all the talk but the talks turned into nothing, a celtic fans hair was set on fire in the away end last night, it needs clamped down on before someone's seriously hurt

Bojang is a celtic fan?

[WhileTheChief..]

Some of there stewards at ER are a disgrace.

Last 2 games I've had them try to take a bottle of juice off me when standing in the car par behind the main stand.

Not in the stand or the queue at the turnstiles mind, just standing around having a vape and a drink before going into the ground. One of them was even trying to find a police officer to help him when I refused to give him my Fanta!

What the actual f???

[Hibernian Verse]

The only way to stop this is strict liability.

Which we voted against.

How long ago though? Surely this is something the clubs need to revisit

[BoomtownHibees]

Stewards have tried to search my 13 year old daughter at the last 2 home games and swiftly got told to **** off (by me, not her 👀)

[LaMotta]

Some of there stewards at ER are a disgrace.

Last 2 games I've had them try to take a bottle of juice off me when standing in the car par behind the main stand.

Not in the stand or the queue at the turnstiles mind, just standing around having a vape and a drink before going into the ground. One of them was even trying to find a police officer to help him when I refused to give him my Fanta!

What the actual f???

That's mad!

I think its a mixed bag with the stewards - have dealt with some very pleasant sensible ones and also some absloute morons.

[Carheenlea]

I refuse to take a swipe at what will be largely minimal wage workers doing their job for not a lot of money and little thanks.

The problems stem from those above who are instructing them as to what they expect them to be doing. Those are the ones who need to answer questions, not the men and women on the ground.

You would expect the stewarding company to be working alongside Hibs with regards to match day operation, which makes it even more galling.

[LaMotta]

I refuse to take a swipe at what will be largely minimal wage workers doing their job for not a lot of money and little thanks.

The problems stem from those above who are instructing them as to what they expect them to be doing. Those are the ones who need to answer questions, not the men and women on the ground.

You would expect the stewarding company to be working alongside Hibs with regards to match day operation, which makes it even more galling.

We had an issue with one of the supervisors outside the ground before the Villa game. Agressive, pigheaded and stupid behaviour and he caused a fair few fans to get pretty wound up. He also lied about what he said the club were instructing them to do.

I emailed the club and they got back to me with a great email confirming the steward wasnt following Hibs protocol and advised they would address this with their next game pre brief. So they def do work together.Worth picking up with Hibs if anything radge going on from stewards.

[One Day Soon]

I'm sure we pay for the stewarding. Do we not have to contribute to policing costs too?

In any case, its long overdue that we see some proper crowd control and risk prevention regarding the away fans at ER. Whether over sectarian behaviour, fire risk or dangerously overcrowding by dodging barriers.

And BTW for any Celtc fans looking in no I don't hate the royal family, I'm ambivalent about them. But I absolutely ****ing detest you, your 'Ra ***** and your dishonest mirroring of your incestous ugly twin sister. You're no different from them, you're cheeks of the same arse and Scottish refereeing is the sphincter in the middle. Clap that you artificially inflated, hate-infested, corrupting bunch of protected, cheating, 'victims'.

[stuart-farquhar]

I'm sure we pay for the stewarding. Do we not have to contribute to policing costs too?

In any case, its long overdue that we see some proper crowd control and risk prevention regarding the away fans at ER. Whether over sectarian behaviour, fire risk or dangerously overcrowding by dodging barriers.

And BTW for any Celtc fans looking in no I don't hate the royal family, I'm ambivalent about them. But I absolutely ****ing detest you, your 'Ra ***** and your dishonest mirroring of your incestous ugly twin sister. You're no different from them, you're cheeks of the same arse and Scottish refereeing is the sphincter in the middle. Clap that you artificially inflated, hate-infested, corrupting bunch of protected, cheating, 'victims'.

Agreed. I'll sign up to that.

[SHODAN]

Quite simple. Ban every single Celtic fan who attended last night from any other games at ER. They've plenty more who can come in their place. Repeat until the remaining fans figure it out and stop doing it. :aok:

[Pete70]

It seems it’s only Hibs fans who aren’t allowed to bring pyros in to ER.

[WeAreHibs]

Saw them chuck a pyro across their support when they went off at the start.

Must've hit this guy.

🤣🤣🤣

https://twitter.com/hooliganscz1999/status/1755489976626679892?s=48&t=zv1fpLqJARuYAQdh89J4vA

[MelbourneHibees]

Cut their allocation.

[greenlex]

Some of there stewards at ER are a disgrace.

Last 2 games I've had them try to take a bottle of juice off me when standing in the car par behind the main stand.

Not in the stand or the queue at the turnstiles mind, just standing around having a vape and a drink before going into the ground. One of them was even trying to find a police officer to help him when I refused to give him my Fanta!

What the actual f???

I’m sure they’re doing what they are told to do.

[.Sean.]

Cut their allocation.
😂

Come on, this is nice, jolly old Hibs we’re talking about. Wouldn’t want to do anything to upset the Opd Firm

[SickBoy32]

The only way to stop this is strict liability.

Which we voted against.

If you think the SFA would deduct either of the OF points for fan behaviour then you haven’t been paying attention 😂

[1 8 7 5]

Cut their allocation.

Agreed. Half it for their next visit. If it continues, half it again for the one after. Same for their blue pals.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

I don’t blame the Celtic fans or the stewards. I blame Hibs.

We do nothing and say nothing. And thus, it perpetuates.

Ben Kensell has come under fire lately; if he wants to get the fans instantly back on side he will call it out and either reduce their allocation or even better, ban them from Easter Road. But he won’t, because he’s just as complicit and subservient as his predecessors.

[southern hibby]

I'm sure we pay for the stewarding. Do we not have to contribute to policing costs too?

In any case, its long overdue that we see some proper crowd control and risk prevention regarding the away fans at ER. Whether over sectarian behaviour, fire risk or dangerously overcrowding by dodging barriers.

And BTW for any Celtc fans looking in no I don't hate the royal family, I'm ambivalent about them. But I absolutely ****ing detest you, your 'Ra ***** and your dishonest mirroring of your incestous ugly twin sister. You're no different from them, you're cheeks of the same arse and Scottish refereeing is the sphincter in the middle. Clap that you artificially inflated, hate-infested, corrupting bunch of protected, cheating, 'victims'.

This 100% only wish I had wrote it.

GGTTH

[hibsdaft]

On pyro, the authorities clearly don't have the resources to deal with the issue. The sooner that reality is acknowledged the sooner we can put some proportionate and pragmatic arrangements in place for the benefit of those who don't want to be affected (e.g. set on fire, experience asthma attacks or whatever). Tolerance zones within the stands will probably be the way forward. That would also create a level playing field for all supports.

[scuttle]

I'm sure we pay for the stewarding. Do we not have to contribute to policing costs too?

In any case, its long overdue that we see some proper crowd control and risk prevention regarding the away fans at ER. Whether over sectarian behaviour, fire risk or dangerously overcrowding by dodging barriers.

And BTW for any Celtc fans looking in no I don't hate the royal family, I'm ambivalent about them. But I absolutely ****ing detest you, your 'Ra ***** and your dishonest mirroring of your incestous ugly twin sister. You're no different from them, you're cheeks of the same arse and Scottish refereeing is the sphincter in the middle. Clap that you artificially inflated, hate-infested, corrupting bunch of protected, cheating, 'victims'.

Hear Hear

[Hibs3-2]

Agreed. Half it for their next visit. If it continues, half it again for the one after. Same for their blue pals.

Simple fact is we cant afford to

[WhileTheChief..]

I’m sure they’re doing what they are told to do.

Probably, but that doesn't make it right. The point is, why is anyone saying you can't have a bottle of juice in the car park?!!

It's ridiculous if that is somehow a Hibs' policy.

Stewards are meant to be there to help us but it rarely feels that way. Why is anyone searching a kids bag when they walk through the gates near the ticket office for example?

[Carheenlea]

We've heard all the talk but the talks turned into nothing, a celtic fans hair was set on fire in the away end last night, it needs clamped down on before someone's seriously hurt

The night went from bad to worse for the fan in question.

He seemingly had a a tenner on Celtic to win 2-1 and for away team to score two penalties, but wasn’t able to collect his winnings as he’d burnt his coupon.

[one day maybe...]

I've said before the easy way to stop this is to bring in police sniffer dogs that can sniff out pyrotechnics.
Once a few arrests start getting made with faces plastered all over the papers, they'll soon stop bringing them in.

Simple and easy solution to prevent an eventual disaster waiting to happen.

[Frazerbob]

When I came through the tunnel to go to my seat in the East, the steward actually pointed me to look at the away end who were in full flow pyro and said 'look at that, brilliant eh'. No pal, it's no ****ing brilliant.

[0762]

The only way to stop this is strict liability.

Which we voted against.

Agreed but times change. Get it back on the agenda.
The ugly sister turning the place into something akin to a scene from a Vietnam war movie is something the ugly sisters need to sort or pay the price for.

[Joe6-2]

I’m sure they’re doing what they are told to do.

Sure they are, but the point is the shocking scenes in the way end 🤷

[Bishop Hibee]

Regarding pyro, the sensible solution is safe areas for pyro as in US football. No chance that the SFA snd SPFL will be so sensible unfortunately.

[Itsnoteasy]

Agreed. Half it for their next visit. If it continues, half it again for the one after. Same for their blue pals.

Why do we continue to make this suggestion, we can't afford it. We can't even sell out the home end. Also millions in debt, so great idea.

[Jamesie]

We were entering the seating area just as the Celtic pyro display was getting underway. The steward at our entranceway was absolutely loving the display and indeed actually directed us to look at it as we were about to find our seats. A quick lecture was delivered to him as to the dangers of flares in stadium and the consequences for anyone nearby with breathing issues.

When home fans are having to give the stewards a talking to for their fawning of the away support and their breaking of ground rules and regulations, the game is a bogey.

[Scouse Hibee]

We need a water cannon parked at the away end, as soon as the pyros appear the cannon extinguishes them….problem solved.

[Libby Hibby]

We need a water cannon parked at the away end, as soon as the pyros appear the cannon extinguishes them….problem solved.

Would that not encourage more Rantic fans to attend as they know they get a wash?

[Keith_M]

We need a water cannon parked at the away end, as soon as the pyros appear the cannon extinguishes them….problem solved.


Funnily enough, I was going to suggest fitting a sprinkler system across the whole of the South Stand roof.

[Torto7]

The thing that will work is to ban them but Hibs like all the other clubs in Scotland would never entertain that idea due to money even though 4 full away ends per season versus them and the hun would probably come to one McKirdy income wise so its not exactly vital income.

The other option is to give them the majority of the stadium and charge them obscene ticket prices which we could label the bigot tax.

[Kato]

I'm sure we pay for the stewarding. Do we not have to contribute to policing costs too?

In any case, its long overdue that we see some proper crowd control and risk prevention regarding the away fans at ER. Whether over sectarian behaviour, fire risk or dangerously overcrowding by dodging barriers.

And BTW for any Celtc fans looking in no I don't hate the royal family, I'm ambivalent about them. But I absolutely ****ing detest you, your 'Ra ***** and your dishonest mirroring of your incestous ugly twin sister. You're no different from them, you're cheeks of the same arse and Scottish refereeing is the sphincter in the middle. Clap that you artificially inflated, hate-infested, corrupting bunch of protected, cheating, 'victims'.Ooft

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[Row H]

Unwashed AND unsegregated. Quite the combination.

[Helensburghhibs]

Stewards have tried to search my 13 year old daughter at the last 2 home games and swiftly got told to **** off (by me, not her 👀)

Yeah me too. Just for general information, I spoke to a sia badged supervisor and their policy is that they shouldn't be searching minors

[BoomtownHibees]

Yeah me too. Just for general information, I spoke to a sia badged supervisor and their policy is that they shouldn't be searching minors

Yeah that happened at the game last week where a female went to search her but a head steward type guy told her not to as she is underage. Last night it was a male steward who tried and got told to bolt

[PHeffernan]

Yeah me too. Just for general information, I spoke to a sia badged supervisor and their policy is that they shouldn't be searching minors

That will be another way for Celgers supporters to get flares into Easter Road.
Add that to the ones that bring them in between their butt cheeks, cleavage etc and we have an ongoing issue.

[Skol]

Regarding pyro, the sensible solution is safe areas for pyro as in US football. No chance that the SFA snd SPFL will be so sensible unfortunately.

Will need to be baldies only

[Aldo]

Probably, but that doesn't make it right. The point is, why is anyone saying you can't have a bottle of juice in the car park?!!

It's ridiculous if that is somehow a Hibs' policy.

Stewards are meant to be there to help us but it rarely feels that way. Why is anyone searching a kids bag when they walk through the gates near the ticket office for example?

IIRC there are buckets or there used to be buckets at the entrance to the turnstiles. This was to allow those who were drinking from prohibited containers to get rid before they entered the stadium.

From my previous experience the stewards shouldn’t be approaching folk external to the stadium ie in the car park or footpath and trying to take it from them. They have no power. Especially a drink of juice.

Sounds like a jobs worth.

What I will say I’ve never seen any signs in or around that area stating you cannot have a drink of juice.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Unwashed AND unsegregated. Quite the combination.

So 3,800 tickets sold. Just how many extra bodies got in for nowt?

[greenlex]

Sure they are, but the point is the shocking scenes in the way end 🤷

Not on the post I was replying to. 🤷

[Smartie]

Simple fact is we cant afford to

We’re getting to the point that we can’t afford to because we did nothing about it when we could afford to.

Hibs are starting to reap what they’ve sown with these games at ER - packed, bouncing, overpopulated an uncontrollable away ends and sparsely populated home ends with a few die hards and a few who are yet to understand sunken cost fallacy.

It’s a shame because on nights like last night the team deserve better if they’re going to put that much into a game.