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Unseen work
07-02-2024, 10:43 AM
Rumours of a bust up etc on Twitter however I’ve only seen that since Boyle admitted the post match meeting got a bit heated.

What were the rumours and was there any truth to them?

Think a couple of the players needed to hear some home truths though!

J-C
07-02-2024, 10:46 AM
Rumours of a bust up etc on Twitter however I’ve only seen that since Boyle admitted the post match meeting got a bit heated.

What were the rumours and was there any truth to them?

Think a couple of the players needed to hear some home truths though!

Think it was the Monday team meeting going over the game, a few home truths shared between players, it will happen in every club, sometimes it needs to be done.

SaulGoodman
07-02-2024, 10:50 AM
No point getting angry and showing passion on the Monday. Would’ve liked to see it at some point on the Saturday.

Scottie
07-02-2024, 10:51 AM
No point getting angry and showing passion on the Monday. Would’ve liked to see it at some point on the Saturday.
:agree: ******g bunch of Jessies

eastmainsmsh
07-02-2024, 11:00 AM
Last thing we need is a split in camp cmon lads sort this out

Since452
07-02-2024, 11:06 AM
No point getting angry and showing passion on the Monday. Would’ve liked to see it at some point on the Saturday.

I hope they were arguing on Monday. I was still fuming about it on Monday and i'm only a fan. Im still pissed off about it now. I get what you mean though.

Smartie
07-02-2024, 11:28 AM
No point getting angry and showing passion on the Monday. Would’ve liked to see it at some point on the Saturday.

Better Monday than never though, still plenty to play for this season.

I know a Scottish former manager and he'd swear by "honesty meetings" where you sometimes just have to get everybody together, let them all loose with the home truths on each other and then build it back together. No room for festering resentment and having anyone think that things are ok when they're clearly not.

Kato
07-02-2024, 11:31 AM
Last thing we need is a split in camp cmon lads sort this outA few home truths can galvanise a group. A bust-up can end up with a stronger team spirit. I hope so in this case, obviously

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GloryGlory
07-02-2024, 11:33 AM
A few home truths can galvanise a group. A bust-up can end up with a stronger team spirit. I hope so in this case, obviously

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:agree: A good old-fashioned clear the air meeting is what was needed after that shambles. Hopefully a few players realise the lack of effort is not acceptable.

Tyler Durden
07-02-2024, 11:35 AM
We've heard it all before. The proof's in the pudding isn't it.

Let's see if we actually run and press and work hard tonight. Moriah-Welsh looks like a good influence in that regard, he'll get stuck in.

But overall we don't seem organised enough to press effectively. The intensity and cohesion isn't there. It's all half hearted and for show to be honest.

Trinity Hibee
07-02-2024, 11:39 AM
I hope they were arguing on Monday. I was still fuming about it on Monday and i'm only a fan. Im still pissed off about it now. I get what you mean though.

Exactly this. Hope they ripped through each other.

Unseen work
07-02-2024, 11:41 AM
We've heard it all before. The proof's in the pudding isn't it.

Let's see if we actually run and press and work hard tonight. Moriah-Welsh looks like a good influence in that regard, he'll get stuck in.

But overall we don't seem organised enough to press effectively. The intensity and cohesion isn't there. It's all half hearted and for show to be honest.

Yeah I really liked his ability and attitude to pressing the opposition when he came on.

Look forward to seeing more of him and Amos when he is match fit. Both have shown they can win the ball back by pressing

JimBHibees
07-02-2024, 01:11 PM
No point getting angry and showing passion on the Monday. Would’ve liked to see it at some point on the Saturday.

Very good point :greengrin

Hibees1973
07-02-2024, 01:11 PM
Wee bit of a rammie. Bless.

Hope Tavares didn't break a finger nail. If he did he will be out for tonight.

Jones28
07-02-2024, 01:12 PM
Wee bit of a rammie. Bless.

Hope Tavares didn't break a finger nail. If he did he will be out for tonight.

What an unnecessary comment.

Torto7
07-02-2024, 01:14 PM
Wee bit of a rammie. Bless.

Hope Tavares didn't break a finger nail. If he did he will be out for tonight.

I wish you where out with your constant pish.

Jones28
07-02-2024, 01:14 PM
I hope they were scrapping and they channel it in to their performances on the pitch.

A bit disharmony might help sort the wheat from the chaff.

Bobby's Cinema
07-02-2024, 01:39 PM
We've heard it all before. The proof's in the pudding isn't it.

Let's see if we actually run and press and work hard tonight. Moriah-Welsh looks like a good influence in that regard, he'll get stuck in.

But overall we don't seem organised enough to press effectively. The intensity and cohesion isn't there. It's all half hearted and for show to be honest.

That is a big problem for us IMO, you would hope now after a bit more time together we can be more organised pressing together. Very rarely last few home games were we getting close enough to even put blocks in to get the crowd going - that's what we'll need and that's what we had in a decent showing last time we played Celtic at ER.

It needs a monumental turnaround in performance tonight. If I'm still there at full time to applaud the team off it will be a welcome improvement.

hibsbollah
07-02-2024, 01:55 PM
Wee bit of a rammie. Bless.

Hope Tavares didn't break a finger nail. If he did he will be out for tonight.

Theres something unpleasant behind this visceral dislike of our player. I cant put my finger on it but he gets a harder time as an individual than he deserves. Its like the short-lived 4/5 matches of good form annoyed the folk who slagged him early days, so they stored up the pus and bile and it explodes in posts like that.

SaulGoodman
07-02-2024, 01:56 PM
Apparently one of the older guys started having a go at Whittaker in the canteen. Whittaker looked to Youan for support but he was doing stepovers on the table at the opposite end of the room.

bod
07-02-2024, 01:57 PM
Think it was the Monday team meeting going over the game, a few home truths shared between players, it will happen in every club, sometimes it needs to be done.

I want to see 3 or 4 running out with shiners tonight ,shows who stood up for themselves in the “team meeting “ 😆

Jones28
07-02-2024, 02:01 PM
Theres something unpleasant behind this visceral dislike of our player. I cant put my finger on it but he gets a harder time as an individual than he deserves. Its like the short-lived 4/5 matches of good form annoyed the folk who slagged him early days, so they stored up the pus and bile and it explodes in posts like that.

Agree with this.

JimBHibees
07-02-2024, 02:08 PM
Theres something unpleasant behind this visceral dislike of our player. I cant put my finger on it but he gets a harder time as an individual than he deserves. Its like the short-lived 4/5 matches of good form annoyed the folk who slagged him early days, so they stored up the pus and bile and it explodes in posts like that.

Think you are right however he hasn’t been great last few games though thought ok at Killie. No reason he can’t get back to form he had previously.

JimBHibees
07-02-2024, 02:08 PM
I want to see 3 or 4 running out with shiners tonight ,shows who stood up for themselves in the “team meeting “ 😆

Or who got a shoeing 😄

SHODAN
07-02-2024, 02:36 PM
Theres something unpleasant behind this visceral dislike of our player. I cant put my finger on it but he gets a harder time as an individual than he deserves. Its like the short-lived 4/5 matches of good form annoyed the folk who slagged him early days, so they stored up the pus and bile and it explodes in posts like that.

We know why.

One Day Soon
07-02-2024, 02:44 PM
Theres something unpleasant behind this visceral dislike of our player. I cant put my finger on it but he gets a harder time as an individual than he deserves. Its like the short-lived 4/5 matches of good form annoyed the folk who slagged him early days, so they stored up the pus and bile and it explodes in posts like that.

He was actually coming on really well for a while there and has then faded back out badly, coincidentally as the team's performances have plummeted as a whole...

He's far from the only player in that squad who has decent potential that is being wasted playing in a side that lacks confidence and shape. I've next to no faith left in Montgomery as the manager now and I think his days are numbered. My worry is that he will drag some players down with him. This player at least looks like a he's trying while others, Levitt for example, look anything but. There are plenty of ways to criticise anybody you like without making it personally unpleasant.

Matt Doherty aside, of course.

Brizo
07-02-2024, 03:05 PM
We've heard it all before. The proof's in the pudding isn't it.

Let's see if we actually run and press and work hard tonight. Moriah-Welsh looks like a good influence in that regard, he'll get stuck in.

But overall we don't seem organised enough to press effectively. The intensity and cohesion isn't there. It's all half hearted and for show to be honest.

100%. The lack of fight , dig, passion , playing for the jersey , whatever people want to call it was absent from nearly all on Saturday. I dont expect us to win tonight but I do expect us to put in the effort and commitment which should be.a given but sometimes isn't.

NORTHERNHIBBY
07-02-2024, 03:14 PM
Nothing wrong with clearing the air and knocking heads together. I would have thought that it was part and parcel of the professional game. If it did happen, I hope that everyone said everything that they wanted to.

chrisski33
07-02-2024, 03:17 PM
Lets see if anything changes on the pitch tonight.....

hibsbollah
07-02-2024, 03:19 PM
He was actually coming on really well for a while there and has then faded back out badly, coincidentally as the team's performances have plummeted as a whole...

He's far from the only player in that squad who has decent potential that is being wasted playing in a side that lacks confidence and shape. I've next to no faith left in Montgomery as the manager now and I think his days are numbered. My worry is that he will drag some players down with him. This player at least looks like a he's trying while others, Levitt for example, look anything but. There are plenty of ways to criticise anybody you like without making it personally unpleasant.

Matt Doherty aside, of course.

Yeah, i can see that hes struggled for form of course, along with the rest of them. I can think of no-one in the team that is playing well. But I cant believe some folk are ripping him for lack of effort. Levitt and Youan, yes.

I cant believe it myself, but my season ticket is probably going to lie unused tonight. I also have two tickets for Inverness that i probably wont use. Cold, tired after work, cant face the bus trip home, no confidence in anything the club are doing. Even the new signings enthusiasm has waned. A home game under the lights against that lot was something i would be champing at the proverbial bit for, now its a different story. Hopefully ill be proved to be the chump i am and we’ll horse them. (Any other equestrian metaphors gratefully received)

mcohibs
07-02-2024, 03:21 PM
Apparently one of the older guys started having a go at Whittaker in the canteen. Whittaker looked to Youan for support but he was doing stepovers on the table at the opposite end of the room.

😂😂

Bostonhibby
07-02-2024, 03:25 PM
Apparently one of the older guys started having a go at Whittaker in the canteen. Whittaker looked to Youan for support but he was doing stepovers on the table at the opposite end of the room.[emoji23]

Went back to dribble the chairs but lost the ball and just went for a stroll on his own

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Booked4Being-Ugly
07-02-2024, 03:33 PM
The club will probably book Dubai again for some team building after the rammy.

On a serious note, I’m glad the players have had a go at each other as it shows some of them care. We need fight in this team now, no shrinking violets and players that don’t fancy it!

WhileTheChief..
07-02-2024, 03:36 PM
We know why.

Bombscare?

thebausburst
07-02-2024, 03:46 PM
Show more fight in the post match team debrief than they ever show on the pitch.

gbhibby
07-02-2024, 03:58 PM
Constructive feedback is what is called in management speak.

gbhibby
07-02-2024, 04:02 PM
Yeah, i can see that hes struggled for form of course, along with the rest of them. I can think of no-one in the team that is playing well. But I cant believe some folk are ripping him for lack of effort. Levitt and Youan, yes.

I cant believe it myself, but my season ticket is probably going to lie unused tonight. I also have two tickets for Inverness that i probably wont use. Cold, tired after work, cant face the bus trip home, no confidence in anything the club are doing. Even the new signings enthusiasm has waned. A home game under the lights against that lot was something i would be champing at the proverbial bit for, now its a different story. Hopefully ill be proved to be the chump i am and we’ll horse them. (Any other equestrian metaphors gratefully received)
Hope we don't ride slipshod tonight.

hibsbollah
07-02-2024, 04:10 PM
Hope we don't ride slipshod tonight.

Thats the thing with metaphors, you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink it.

flash
07-02-2024, 04:11 PM
Thats the thing with metaphors, you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink it.

You need to get back in the saddle sharpish.

Itsnoteasy
07-02-2024, 04:22 PM
Worrying thing is, why was this leaked out. Or was that deliberately done.

ChilliEater
07-02-2024, 04:22 PM
I'm hoping they come out tonight with freshly shaved heads and steely expressions.

Jones28
07-02-2024, 04:23 PM
You need to get back in the saddle sharpish.

Just reign it in ffs

gbhibby
07-02-2024, 04:25 PM
We need to ensure that Celtic get neigh chances to score tonight by ensuring the defence stands resolute and let Boyler gallop up the wing

Jones28
07-02-2024, 04:25 PM
We need to ensure that Celtic get neigh chances to score tonight by ensuring the defence stands resolute and let Boyler gallup up the wing

If they score first it’s a bit like lockin the stable door efter the horse his boltet like ehh

Hibees1973
07-02-2024, 04:27 PM
Apparently one of the older guys started having a go at Whittaker in the canteen. Whittaker looked to Youan for support but he was doing stepovers on the table at the opposite end of the room.

:tee hee:

Glad some can see the funny side to this thread.

JohnM1875
07-02-2024, 04:39 PM
Theres something unpleasant behind this visceral dislike of our player. I cant put my finger on it but he gets a harder time as an individual than he deserves. Its like the short-lived 4/5 matches of good form annoyed the folk who slagged him early days, so they stored up the pus and bile and it explodes in posts like that.

Honestly couldn't agree more. Some folk just flat out don't seem to like him and I've been thinking the same as you the past few weeks, can't figure out why.

Jones28
07-02-2024, 04:44 PM
Honestly couldn't agree more. Some folk just flat out don't seem to like him and I've been thinking the same as you the past few weeks, can't figure out why.

There’s definitely a section of supporters who he will never win over.

GreenCastle
07-02-2024, 04:51 PM
The club will probably book Dubai again for some team building after the rammy.

On a serious note, I’m glad the players have had a go at each other as it shows some of them care. We need fight in this team now, no shrinking violets and players that don’t fancy it!

Half the team weren’t even in Dubai and some of the ones who were have now left.

Boyle came back and probably wondering who all his new team mates were.

ErinGoBraghHFC
07-02-2024, 04:54 PM
Honestly couldn't agree more. Some folk just flat out don't seem to like him and I've been thinking the same as you the past few weeks, can't figure out why.

I think the hype around his announcement when he signed didn’t help, a lot of folk thought we’d signed the next Ronaldinho. That’s not his fault of course, he has been underwhelming though. I feel sorry for him.


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Hibs4185
07-02-2024, 05:05 PM
I consumed a lot of alcohol after the st mirren game. Watched the rugby and went out for dinner with some friends.

Was a bit pished by midnight and hit the sack.

HendoDelivered
07-02-2024, 05:06 PM
Apparently one of the older guys started having a go at Whittaker in the canteen. Whittaker looked to Youan for support but he was doing stepovers on the table at the opposite end of the room.🤣🤣🤣🤣

Onion
07-02-2024, 05:07 PM
Last thing we need is a split in camp cmon lads sort this out

Didn't we have a similar situation a decade or so ago when we brought in a shedload of loans. Same claims of lack of heart, effort and commitment. Monty & Hibs need to get this sorted out asap.

Northernhibee
07-02-2024, 05:10 PM
Wee bit of a rammie. Bless.

Hope Tavares didn't break a finger nail. If he did he will be out for tonight.

If theres one thing Jair can’t be accused of, it’s not trying. He’s got a good attitude and tries to get to the byline and get a ball across the face of goal.

Whether he’s good enough or not is a matter of debate but that’s poor.

gbhibby
07-02-2024, 05:16 PM
Half the team weren’t even in Dubai and some of the ones who were have now left.

Boyle came back and probably wondering who all his new team mates were.
There must have been too much horsing around in Dubai given the performances since their return.

B.H.F.C
07-02-2024, 05:18 PM
Didn't we have a similar situation a decade or so ago when we brought in a shedload of loans. Same claims of lack of heart, effort and commitment. Monty & Hibs need to get this sorted out asap.

The worst culprits at the weekend were the ones on long term contracts.

Smartie
07-02-2024, 05:37 PM
I’m expecting them all to run out tonight in Bash Street Kids esque stookies, crutches, bandages on heids and at least one in a wheelchair following this almighty scrap that has supposedly taken place.

basehibby
07-02-2024, 05:53 PM
Yeah, i can see that hes struggled for form of course, along with the rest of them. I can think of no-one in the team that is playing well. But I cant believe some folk are ripping him for lack of effort. Levitt and Youan, yes.

I cant believe it myself, but my season ticket is probably going to lie unused tonight. I also have two tickets for Inverness that i probably wont use. Cold, tired after work, cant face the bus trip home, no confidence in anything the club are doing. Even the new signings enthusiasm has waned. A home game under the lights against that lot was something i would be champing at the proverbial bit for, now its a different story. Hopefully ill be proved to be the chump i am and we’ll horse them. (Any other equestrian metaphors gratefully received)

I'm similar - going down the local to watch on the TV. I have an ST but after Saturday I'm thinking - well - if THEY can't be arsed then neither can I!

Hoping they prove me wrong and win at a canter :wink:

hibsbollah
07-02-2024, 06:03 PM
win at a canter :wink:

:applause:

eastterrace
07-02-2024, 06:04 PM
If theres one thing Jair can’t be accused of, it’s not trying. He’s got a good attitude and tries to get to the byline and get a ball across the face of goal.

Whether he’s good enough or not is a matter of debate but that’s poor. jair one of the biggest shysters the guy offers nothing. He wouldn’t even get on the bench for hearts or Aberdeen we need better than him.

Jones28
07-02-2024, 06:06 PM
jair one of the biggest shysters the guy offers nothing. He wouldn’t even get on the bench for hearts or Aberdeen we need better than him.

There’s a lot to be said for nuanced observations in football.

Hibees1973
07-02-2024, 06:06 PM
jair one of the biggest shysters the guy offers nothing. He wouldn’t even get on the bench for hearts or Aberdeen we need better than him.

What is it with people who sit on the fence.

VoltaireHibs
07-02-2024, 06:11 PM
jair one of the biggest shysters the guy offers nothing. He wouldn’t even get on the bench for hearts or Aberdeen we need better than him.

You know you can not think much of a player, have issues with their effectiveness, and not resort to daft insults?

Whatever else Jair is he is not a shyster. I think he's a young lad, finding is feet in a foreign league, that he's maybe not best suited to, but none of that is his fault, he doesn't write his name on the team sheet. And as many issues as I have with Levitt and Youan, neither do they.

eastterrace
07-02-2024, 06:12 PM
What is it with people who sit on the fence.
Okay he won’t get on the hearts or Aberdeen fence.

eastterrace
07-02-2024, 06:16 PM
You know you can not think much of a player, have issues with their effectiveness, and not resort to daft insults?

Whatever else Jair is he is not a shyster. I think he's a young lad, finding is feet in a foreign league, that he's maybe not best suited to, but none of that is his fault, he doesn't write his name on the team sheet. And as many issues as I have with Levitt and Youan, neither do they. I have my views and you have yours and I know who has the correct one.

jacomo
07-02-2024, 06:16 PM
Better Monday than never though, still plenty to play for this season.

I know a Scottish former manager and he'd swear by "honesty meetings" where you sometimes just have to get everybody together, let them all loose with the home truths on each other and then build it back together. No room for festering resentment and having anyone think that things are ok when they're clearly not.


:agree:

lyonhibs
07-02-2024, 09:37 PM
I would certainly hope there was a severe bit of metaphorical bashing of heads together and a spot of shouting and screaming after getting dry humped at home by St Mirren

hibbydog
08-02-2024, 06:07 AM
Totally irrelevant.

The players can have all the meetings, nights out, slagging matches they want and I wouldn’t care.

All I care about is winning football games.