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El Gubbz
07-02-2024, 05:49 AM
As per resolution 6 of the AGM notice there will be a special resolution vote on changes to the Articles of Association which are to be adopted.
Link to new articles:
https://d3tepru76oevpi.cloudfront.net/production/Articles-of-Association-2024.pdf
It seems we have many Accountants on the forum but do we have any legal big wigs able to peruse through the attached and summarise any changes (unsure what the current articles state).
It seems confidence in the owners and Kensell are at a bit of an ebb at the moment so scrutiny on any changes needs to be thorough before the horse has bolted
matty_f
07-02-2024, 07:27 AM
As per resolution 6 of the AGM notice there will be a special resolution vote on changes to the Articles of Association which are to be adopted.
Link to new articles:
https://d3tepru76oevpi.cloudfront.net/production/Articles-of-Association-2024.pdf
It seems we have many Accountants on the forum but do we have any legal big wigs able to peruse through the attached and summarise any changes (unsure what the current articles state).
It seems confidence in the owners and Kensell are at a bit of an ebb at the moment so scrutiny on any changes needs to be thorough before the horse has bolted
Good question. Would be interested to see the detail to scrutinise it.
CropleyWasGod
07-02-2024, 12:02 PM
Not sure of the detail....I'm on that.... but there's another ****-up.
The version on the website has "notes and comments" (presumably from the solicitors), which suggest that this is not the final version.
Pretty appalling IMO.
GloryGlory
07-02-2024, 12:30 PM
Not sure of the detail....I'm on that.... but there's another ****-up.
The version on the website has "notes and comments" (presumably from the solicitors), which suggest that this is not the final version.
Pretty appalling IMO.
You say po-tay-to, I say po-taa-to.
Along with the management accounts you could call it a greater degree of openness and transparency...
CropleyWasGod
07-02-2024, 12:35 PM
You say po-tay-to, I say po-taa-to.
Along with the management accounts you could call it a greater degree of openness and transparency...
...not when it's showing the comments of the solicitor it ain't.:rolleyes:
TrinityHFC
07-02-2024, 12:41 PM
I don't see anything too exciting in there.
There is the reference now to majority shareholder directors and investor directors, with the investor being able to appoint up to 2 directors. Decisions can only be made (quorum) if there's at least 1 majority shareholder director and 1 investor director in attendance.
Hiber-nation
07-02-2024, 12:42 PM
Not sure of the detail....I'm on that.... but there's another ****-up.
The version on the website has "notes and comments" (presumably from the solicitors), which suggest that this is not the final version.
Pretty appalling IMO.
That's just incredible. Hopefully someone has spotted it.
CropleyWasGod
07-02-2024, 12:43 PM
I think I have spotted it.
There's a clause in the proposed Articles that refers to the increase in the Share Capital.
The Directors are generally and unconditionally authorised in accordance with
Section 551 of the Act to exercise all the powers of the Company to offer, allot,
grant options over Ordinary Shares and/or rights to subscribe for or convert
securities into Ordinary Shares or otherwise dispose of any Ordinary Shares up to
an aggregate nominal value of £3,121,887.92 to such persons, at such times and for
such consideration as the Directors may determine but so that no Share shall be
issued in contravention of Section 553 of the Act.
The number in bold is the number that the Turquoise people are being allotted in the other (Ordinary) Resolution.
So... my reading of that is that, without this particular (75%) vote, the new shares can't be issued and the whole deal falls. It probably won't, but it's a bit sneaky of the Club to do it this way (ie hide it in the middle of the Articles, where nobody with a life will read it) rather than being more explicit.
I think I have spotted it.
There's a clause in the proposed Articles that refers to the increase in the Authorised Share Capital.
The Directors are generally and unconditionally authorised in accordance with
Section 551 of the Act to exercise all the powers of the Company to offer, allot,
grant options over Ordinary Shares and/or rights to subscribe for or convert
securities into Ordinary Shares or otherwise dispose of any Ordinary Shares up to
an aggregate nominal value of £3,121,887.92 to such persons, at such times and for
such consideration as the Directors may determine but so that no Share shall be
issued in contravention of Section 553 of the Act.
The number in bold is the number that the Turquoise people are being allotted in the other (Ordinary) Resolution.
So... my reading of that is that, without this particular (75%) vote, the new shares can't be issued and the whole deal falls. It probably won't, but it's a bit sneaky of the Club to do it this way (ie hide it in the middle of the Articles, where nobody with a life will read it) rather than being more explicit.
Wasn’t that point made the AGM points to be voted on, that if certain points failed to be passed, then the debt for equity and investment actions wouldn’t/couldn’t take place?
CropleyWasGod
07-02-2024, 12:48 PM
Wasn’t that point made the AGM points to be voted on, that if certain points failed to be passed, then the debt for equity and investment actions wouldn’t/couldn’t take place?
It was, but probably isn't as explicit as it could be.
It was, but probably isn't as explicit as it could be.
Cheers :aok:
Pretty Boy
07-02-2024, 12:59 PM
Not sure of the detail....I'm on that.... but there's another ****-up.
The version on the website has "notes and comments" (presumably from the solicitors), which suggest that this is not the final version.
Pretty appalling IMO.
:faf::faf::faf:
Just when I think I can't love Hibs anymore.
This along with the accounts **** up is just proof we are the most mentally out there club going. Corporate confidentiality and protecting sensitive information is for establishment drones like Hearts
matty_f
07-02-2024, 01:07 PM
It was, but probably isn't as explicit as it could be.
It must have been because even i picked up on it and understood it. :greengrin
CropleyWasGod
07-02-2024, 01:16 PM
It must have been because even i picked up on it and understood it. :greengrin
Since you put it that way.....:greengrin:greengrin
Having a grumpy day.......:rolleyes:
One Day Soon
07-02-2024, 01:33 PM
Not sure of the detail....I'm on that.... but there's another ****-up.
The version on the website has "notes and comments" (presumably from the solicitors), which suggest that this is not the final version.
Pretty appalling IMO.
That is very funny but also disturbingly amateurish.
scm70nyd1973
07-02-2024, 01:44 PM
As per resolution 6 of the AGM notice there will be a special resolution vote on changes to the Articles of Association which are to be adopted.
Link to new articles:
https://d3tepru76oevpi.cloudfront.net/production/Articles-of-Association-2024.pdf
It seems we have many Accountants on the forum but do we have any legal big wigs able to peruse through the attached and summarise any changes (unsure what the current articles state).
It seems confidence in the owners and Kensell are at a bit of an ebb at the moment so scrutiny on any changes needs to be thorough before the horse has bolted
My biggest concern here is the affect all this will have with my stake in Hibs.
Until I transferred 50% of my shares over to my daughter my investment was worth £7. Now it’s only £3.50.
Does the foregoing mean that I might gave to face up to a dilution of my asset - with recent form on the field this might push me over the edge 🤭
I’m just searching for my coat and I’ll be gone soon.
CropleyWasGod
07-02-2024, 01:46 PM
My biggest concern here is the affect all this will have with my stake in Hibs.
Until I transferred 50% of my shares over to my daughter my investment was worth £7. Now it’s only £3.50.
Does the foregoing mean that I might gave to face up to a dilution of my asset - with recent form on the field this might push me over the edge 🤭
I’m just searching for my coat and I’ll be gone soon.
Get financial advice, mate.
And a therapist.
:greengrin
scm70nyd1973
07-02-2024, 02:53 PM
Already engaged both - I’m feeling so much better now - can’t wait for tonight now - what could possibly go wrong 🫢
overdrive
07-02-2024, 03:21 PM
Have they uploaded a new version? I'm not seeing any comments on it
CropleyWasGod
07-02-2024, 04:02 PM
Have they uploaded a new version? I'm not seeing any comments on it
There's a wee discussion (presumably between the lawyers) at the foot of Page 24.
The file-name (at the very top of the document) also suggests it's a template, turned in to a draft.
Hibernia&Alba
07-02-2024, 04:27 PM
For those of us who are neither lawyers or accountants, whit the **** are articles of association?
CropleyWasGod
07-02-2024, 04:34 PM
For those of us who are neither lawyers or accountants, whit the **** are articles of association?
Basically, the rules each company sets for itself.
They define such things as directors' and shareholders' rights, meeting procedures etc.
Another word might be "constitution"
Hibernia&Alba
07-02-2024, 04:36 PM
Basically, the rules each company sets for itself.
They define such things as directors' and shareholders' rights, meeting procedures etc.
Another word might be "constitution"
Cheers, CWG:aok:
overdrive
07-02-2024, 09:24 PM
There's a wee discussion (presumably between the lawyers) at the foot of Page 24.
The file-name (at the very top of the document) also suggests it's a template, turned in to a draft.
Right enough. Cheers
CropleyWasGod
08-02-2024, 08:54 AM
The Articles have now been corrected.
In other news, the uploading of the Management Information with the accounts was deliberate on the Club's part.
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