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Criswell
03-02-2024, 09:41 PM
Even the Sportscene panel are totally mystfied as to what Gollum has given it for. Strange how VAR can give an offside decision when a players toenail has strayed too far and yet cannot see when a defender has got a huge bit of a players shirt and is dragging him back as what happened today. Seems to me it is the colour of the shirt which is paramount.

Jones28
03-02-2024, 09:43 PM
Did they comment on our non penalty?

AL-Qaholik
03-02-2024, 09:47 PM
It’s a pathetic rule but, by that pathetic rule, it’s probably a penalty.
Yet another way in which the soul of football is being ripped away - especially for those daft enough to pay their hard-earned cash to attend in person…

Callum_62
03-02-2024, 09:49 PM
It’s a pathetic rule but, by that pathetic rule, it’s probably a penalty.
Yet another way in which the soul of football is being ripped away - especially for those daft enough to pay their hard-earned cash to attend in person…I've no idea how we can reach a point where we have a penalty given that no one even claimed for and another one in the same box not given when the guys shirt is being pulled off his back

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Carheenlea
03-02-2024, 09:50 PM
It’s a pathetic rule but, by that pathetic rule, it’s probably a penalty.
Yet another way in which the soul of football is being ripped away - especially for those daft enough to pay their hard-earned cash to attend in person…

What was the penalty actually awarded for? Saw nothing at the game to even suggest an offence may have taken place.

AL-Qaholik
03-02-2024, 09:56 PM
What was the penalty actually awarded for? Saw nothing at the game to even suggest an offence may have taken place.

Triantis hand in an “unnatural” position as the ball was headed back across for the shot.
Ball barely grazes him.
It’s bo**ocks, but that’s the current “guidelines”.

wookie70
03-02-2024, 10:00 PM
What was the penalty actually awarded for? Saw nothing at the game to even suggest an offence may have taken place.
Collum gave it straight away. It may well have hit his thigh first so not a pen as I understand the rules. If decisions against us even themselves out next year we may win the league. Look at the pen they got for a tug on the shirt at Paisley in comparison. We are utter dross but the refereeing decisions against us continue to add to our woes

Donegal Hibby
03-02-2024, 10:11 PM
I've no idea how we can reach a point where we have a penalty given that no one even claimed for and another one in the same box not given when the guys shirt is being pulled off his back

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One where the player knows nothing about it and the other where the player knows exactly what he's doing !

JJP
03-02-2024, 10:13 PM
Ah well. At least it didn't matter this time. We were getting nothing from the game today regardless.

Carheenlea
03-02-2024, 10:20 PM
Triantis hand in an “unnatural” position as the ball was headed back across for the shot.
Ball barely grazes him.
It’s bo**ocks, but that’s the current “guidelines”.


Collum gave it straight away. It may well have hit his thigh first so not a pen as I understand the rules. If decisions against us even themselves out next year we may win the league. Look at the pen they got for a tug on the shirt at Paisley in comparison. We are utter dross but the refereeing decisions against us continue to add to our woes

Thanks. I have no appetite to view the highlights!

Callum_62
03-02-2024, 11:27 PM
Nonsense decision according to Peter Grant and Neil Mccann

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matty_f
03-02-2024, 11:41 PM
The handball looked soft as anything but the failure to give one to us is baffling. Blatant shirt pulling which we know is a penalty because of the one we conceded against St Mirren.

Kato
04-02-2024, 01:10 AM
Forgetting our brutal performance (trying to) the technical side of the officiating is highly shady in our games overall. Today is just another demonstration of that. We don't get the important decisions other teams get and a few decisions against us are just plucked out of thin air.

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LaMotta
04-02-2024, 01:17 AM
The handball looked soft as anything but the failure to give one to us is baffling. Blatant shirt pulling which we know is a penalty because of the one we conceded against St Mirren.

This in spades.

What the *** is the point of VAR - if it isn't consistently giving the same decisions for identical scenarios then its absolutely pointless. It solves nothing.

LaMotta
04-02-2024, 01:20 AM
Forgetting our brutal performance (trying to) the technical side of the officiating is highly shady in our games overall. Today is just another demonstration of that. We don't get the important decisions other teams get and a few decisions against us are just plucked out of thin air.

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You are totally correct - have to ask why the club doesn't call it out though? Weak stuff. Monty doesn't mention the fact Killies first goal was a blatant foul last week (contrast that with McInnes whining in the media about the sending off which was far more of a 50/50 decision). No mention from Monty today that we should have had a blatant penalty for the shirt pull. He isn't showing anything to suggest he is a good football manager.

Greensunshine
04-02-2024, 02:15 AM
Shocking decision for the penalty and there was one similar for Hearts given.

What ever happened to the indirect free kick inside the box when a ball hits the arm unintentionally?

They’ve ruined football

Forza Fred
04-02-2024, 04:22 AM
Shocking decision for the penalty and there was one similar for Hearts given.

What ever happened to the indirect free kick inside the box when a ball hits the arm unintentionally?

They’ve ruined football

It never existed?

Greensunshine
04-02-2024, 04:41 AM
It never existed?

They might want to take a look at implementing it then because they are destroying the game I used to love.

cubehindthegoal
04-02-2024, 04:42 AM
Even the Sportscene panel are totally mystfied as to what Gollum has given it for. Strange how VAR can give an offside decision when a players toenail has strayed too far and yet cannot see when a defender has got a huge bit of a players shirt and is dragging him back as what happened today. Seems to me it is the colour of the shirt which is paramount.

Hibs should ask for the audio and the media will then run the story for days and days until justice is served for their team … oh hang on … we are the wrong team … 🤨

Onion
04-02-2024, 04:48 AM
Triantis hand in an “unnatural” position as the ball was headed back across for the shot.
Ball barely grazes him.
It’s bo**ocks, but that’s the current “guidelines”.

Whole thing was a nonsense. Not one single St M player shouted for a penalty, yet the ref (and VAR) see something that's so heinous it deserves a spot kick.

Carheenlea
04-02-2024, 07:39 AM
While it was as bad a performance as we’ve seen at Easter Road, the phantom penalty award has been a big contributing factor in the outcome.

One down at home then you give the opposition a free goal. Whole narrative of game has been changed and confidence drains and dissent builds from the stands. The third killed it, but their job was made so much easier with assistance of officials in the awarding of a penalty out of thin air.

percy veer
04-02-2024, 08:22 AM
The handball looked soft as anything but the failure to give one to us is baffling. Blatant shirt pulling which we know is a penalty because of the one we conceded against St Mirren.

Sadly don't dive don't get it, should have jumped I the air minute contact was felt, that's where we are at the moment other teams play the game we are too honest

Carheenlea
04-02-2024, 08:37 AM
The time is perhaps coming where the penalty award is something that might need to be removed from football.

It where most of the cheating revolves around with diving and the most contentious decisions are made subject to individual officials and teams involved.

What is deemed a penalty one week is not deemed a penalty the next. A challenge is deemed a penalty for some clubs but same challenge is not a penalty for others. For hand balls nobody seems to have a clue what’s a handball and what’s not. The rule changes week to week depending on official.

The game might be better all round, and fairer if the penalty is done away with and a foul awarded instead in the box. Won’t stop cheating to try and “win” free kicks in dangerous areas close to goal, but the chances of losing a goal for effectively nothing are a bit less.

K-Zazu
04-02-2024, 08:40 AM
The time is perhaps coming where the penalty award is something that might need to be removed from football.

It where most of the cheating revolves around with diving and the most contentious decisions are made subject to individual officials and teams involved.

What is deemed a penalty one week is not deemed a penalty the next. A challenge is deemed a penalty for some clubs but same challenge is not a penalty for others. For hand balls nobody seems to have a clue what’s a handball and what’s not. The rule changes week to week depending on official.

The game might be better all round, and fairer if the penalty is done away with and a foul awarded instead in the box. Won’t stop cheating to try and “win” free kicks in dangerous areas close to goal, but the chances of losing a goal for effectively nothing are a bit less.

I’ve never thought about it like that before. Actually quite a good idea

where'stheslope
04-02-2024, 09:02 AM
Collum is a law unto himself!
When he's on VAR duty, he tells the ref to go to the monitor as he feels it should be a pen!
When he's on the pitch, he's in charge and the VAR ref does what he tells them!!!!
Either way, he's a clown that needs taken down a peg or two!!!!

Greensunshine
04-02-2024, 09:26 AM
The time is perhaps coming where the penalty award is something that might need to be removed from football.

It where most of the cheating revolves around with diving and the most contentious decisions are made subject to individual officials and teams involved.

What is deemed a penalty one week is not deemed a penalty the next. A challenge is deemed a penalty for some clubs but same challenge is not a penalty for others. For hand balls nobody seems to have a clue what’s a handball and what’s not. The rule changes week to week depending on official.

The game might be better all round, and fairer if the penalty is done away with and a foul awarded instead in the box. Won’t stop cheating to try and “win” free kicks in dangerous areas close to goal, but the chances of losing a goal for effectively nothing are a bit less.

I know what a penalty is and should be. When a player deliberately handles or blocks with his arm, that’s a penalty. When it hits an arm and it’s not deliberate then that’s not a penalty, especially when it’s hammered off you from a yard away.
Refs who can’t differentiate need to be dropped. They are making a mockery of the game by not using the one thing they all seem to lack….. common sense!

wookie70
04-02-2024, 09:41 AM
I know what a penalty is and should be. When a player deliberately handles or blocks with his arm, that’s a penalty. When it hits an arm and it’s not deliberate then that’s not a penalty, especially when it’s hammered off you from a yard away.
Refs who can’t differentiate need to be dropped. They are making a mockery of the game by not using the one thing they all seem to lack….. common sense!

You know what a penalty should be but that is not what it is in the laws of the game. I think most fans would agree that they have taken the odd decision for handball in the box that used to annoy fans and turned it into a weekly fiasco where games are decided by a bit of luck and a slight touch on a hand that was in a perfectly natural position for the movement a player is making.

The best way to take advantage of that is to get the ball in the box as often as you can at a height it can hit hands, also make sure you are not wearing a green top if you want a decision. Football seems to revolve around statistics these days and managers wanting teams to have possession etc but by far the majority of games are won with 12 yards of the goal and the more you put the ball in that area the higher a chance you have of scoring and getting penalties.

ChilliEater
04-02-2024, 09:46 AM
Theoretically, I like the idea of rules that are a clear yes or no without any need for a ref's interpretation. Hit the hand? Shirt pulled? Penalty. Should lead to consistent decision making rather than ref's saying that Goldson didn't mean it but Hanlon did. In reality, it's been awful. And still inconsistent.

Tyler Durden
04-02-2024, 09:55 AM
For Collum not to be asked to go look at this penalty was a joke.

Just this weekend you have Celtic getting away with a blatant red card. A second booking not given against Nawrocki by Steven McClean. Same ref couldn’t wait to give Youan two yellows at Parkhead last season.

Then Rangers first goal should obviously have been disallowed yesterday but shock… it stands.

I used to laugh when people said this but it does make you consider jacking the whole thing in. Football is bad enough without getting shafted by the refs week after week

Carheenlea
04-02-2024, 10:25 AM
For Collum not to be asked to go look at this penalty was a joke.

Just this weekend you have Celtic getting away with a blatant red card. A second booking not given against Nawrocki by Steven McClean. Same ref couldn’t wait to give Youan two yellows at Parkhead last season.

Then Rangers first goal should obviously have been disallowed yesterday but shock… it stands.

I used to laugh when people said this but it does make you consider jacking the whole thing in. Football is bad enough without getting shafted by the refs week after week

It’s a two tier refereeing system. We’ve accepted it for years and continue to accept it.

The will from clubs doesn’t appear to be there to challenge this situation. Of course, the one club who did challenge it recently was Rangers, who were basically voicing concerns that the two tier system that is skewed in theirs and Celtic’s favour would be in danger of evaporating a little bit if the status quo was not adhered to.

KWJ
04-02-2024, 11:25 AM
You are totally correct - have to ask why the club doesn't call it out though? Weak stuff. Monty doesn't mention the fact Killies first goal was a blatant foul last week (contrast that with McInnes whining in the media about the sending off which was far more of a 50/50 decision). No mention from Monty today that we should have had a blatant penalty for the shirt pull. He isn't showing anything to suggest he is a good football manager.


I agree with the last line but I think I'd have been even more against him if he tried to complain about the 2 penalties yesterday as some kind of excuse.

He had to call it out for how bad it was.

Skol
04-02-2024, 11:29 AM
The guy beside me called it as a penalty as soon as he watched the incident. However, he saw it as a pull on the st mirren player and not a handball. I think only collum saw the handball.

SonOfDavidFrancey
04-02-2024, 11:52 AM
The time is perhaps coming where the penalty award is something that might need to be removed from football.

It where most of the cheating revolves around with diving and the most contentious decisions are made subject to individual officials and teams involved.

What is deemed a penalty one week is not deemed a penalty the next. A challenge is deemed a penalty for some clubs but same challenge is not a penalty for others. For hand balls nobody seems to have a clue what’s a handball and what’s not. The rule changes week to week depending on official.

The game might be better all round, and fairer if the penalty is done away with and a foul awarded instead in the box. Won’t stop cheating to try and “win” free kicks in dangerous areas close to goal, but the chances of losing a goal for effectively nothing are a bit less.

This is my belief also. A bit like changes in rugby designed to encourage more attacking play. The reward for a penalty is disproportionate. I would keep the penalty for one thing - a red card/ denies goal scoring opportunity thing (think Suarez v Ghana) but all other fouls a direct/ indirect (as appropriate) foul wherever it happens.

LaMotta
04-02-2024, 12:00 PM
I agree with the last line but I think I'd have been even more against him if he tried to complain about the 2 penalties yesterday as some kind of excuse.

He had to call it out for how bad it was.

Yeh agree with that - still think he has to raise our non penalty shirt pull as a point more generally about inconsitency in VAR application (without using it as an excuse for defeat).

I looked over at the bench just after the incident and he wasn't even appealing for anything. Just stood there, lifeless.

matty_f
04-02-2024, 04:13 PM
For Collum not to be asked to go look at this penalty was a joke.

Just this weekend you have Celtic getting away with a blatant red card. A second booking not given against Nawrocki by Steven McClean. Same ref couldn’t wait to give Youan two yellows at Parkhead last season.

Then Rangers first goal should obviously have been disallowed yesterday but shock… it stands.

I used to laugh when people said this but it does make you consider jacking the whole thing in. Football is bad enough without getting shafted by the refs week after week

Rangers' first goal was a joke. I would be livid if that had gone against us it's a foul to Livi and Goldson's lucky not to be off for it

VAR review: goal.

JimBHibees
04-02-2024, 05:00 PM
Ridiculous how quickly Collum gave the pen against us. Var guy Alan Muir genuinely has never given us a decision in his life. Think Falkirk basketball penalty in play off, Sands handball at Ibrox when two one up.

Corrupt

Callum_62
04-02-2024, 05:06 PM
Rangers' first goal was a joke. I would be livid if that had gone against us it's a foul to Livi and Goldson's lucky not to be off for it

VAR review: goal.It's definitely a border like red card nevermind a goal

Incredible decision that was

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Callum_62
05-02-2024, 06:20 AM
https://twitter.com/BhoysAbroad/status/1753807153041690958?t=HJLYB97vdHtGXqDvtTf42w&s=19

Nothing to see here just someone going for the ball by stretching with 2 feet off the ground

[emoji1787][emoji1787]

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JimBHibees
05-02-2024, 07:21 AM
Watched the highlights their one looked clear handball with the caveat the ball is hit at Nectar from a yard. Someone please tell our players to fall over when someone pulls their shirt only way it is likely to be given by these muppets.

Broxburn Greens
05-02-2024, 07:24 AM
Sitting in the FF I saw nothing but thought at the time the speed Collum gave the penalty probably meant there was something. Haven’t watched any highlights as watching it live was enough.

It’s all a bit of a moot point for me as think we’d have lost anyway.

Didn’t see the shirt pull so can’t comment on that.


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Posh Swanny
05-02-2024, 07:27 AM
St Mirren have had more penalties against us this season than we've had in total. All three of them soft as sh*te too.

Shirt pull at a corner with the bloke 10 yards away from the ball = penalty to St Mirren.
Shirt pull with Maolida trying to get a shot away = no penalty to Hibs.

Infuriating inconcistency. Maybe it will even itself out next season, if we stay up.

JimBHibees
05-02-2024, 07:27 AM
The guy beside me called it as a penalty as soon as he watched the incident. However, he saw it as a pull on the st mirren player and not a handball. I think only collum saw the handball.

Clear handball on highlights though a yard away and have seen they ones ignored though genuinely no idea of laws of handball at the moment.

JimBHibees
05-02-2024, 07:28 AM
St Mirren have had more penalties against us this season than we've had in total. All three of them soft as sh*te too. Maybe it will even itself out next season, if we stay up.

Agree everyone very soft. Nice handy wee boost for them.

CentreLine
05-02-2024, 07:43 AM
Clear handball on highlights though a yard away and have seen they ones ignored though genuinely no idea of laws of handball at the moment.

Clear handball but it comes off his hip (Sportscene said thigh anyway). Rules say no penalty, I believe, if that’s the case. Rule’s definitely say a pull on the shirt in the box is a penalty though. We missed out badly there. Again!

JimBHibees
05-02-2024, 08:38 AM
Clear handball but it comes off his hip (Sportscene said thigh anyway). Rules say no penalty, I believe, if that’s the case. Rule’s definitely say a pull on the shirt in the box is a penalty though. We missed out badly there. Again!

Didn't notice the thigh bit wow that is given then.

bringbackbenny
05-02-2024, 08:44 AM
Clear handball but it comes off his hip (Sportscene said thigh anyway). Rules say no penalty, I believe, if that’s the case. Rule’s definitely say a pull on the shirt in the box is a penalty though. We missed out badly there. Again!

wow - that's full on incompetence. Hibs need to go tonto to the authorities on this, ridiculous how many times we are being done over - twice in one game now :grr:

Carheenlea
05-02-2024, 08:45 AM
Nobody has a clue what the latest rules are. They change from what seems week to week.

Probably done deliberately to take heat off referees so we can be gaslighted into believing that correct decisions have been awarded, however fine the margins are.

flash
05-02-2024, 08:53 AM
It's incredible what goes on in our top division on a weekly basis.

A penalty for handball after they made a particular point of telling us it isn't one if it comes off another part of the defender first.

Then a clear shirt pull right in front of the referee goes without punishment.

There were some really strange calls in other games too with Hertz getting an equally dodgy handball decision.

MKHIBEE
05-02-2024, 09:19 AM
Watched the highlights their one looked clear handball with the caveat the ball is hit at Nectar from a yard. Someone please tell our players to fall over when someone pulls their shirt only way it is likely to be given by these muppets.

Then they get booked for diving. Lose/lose if you are wearing green

LaMotta
05-02-2024, 09:24 AM
Nobody has a clue what the latest rules are. They change from what seems week to week.

Probably done deliberately to take heat off referees so we can be gaslighted into believing that correct decisions have been awarded, however fine the margins are.


It's incredible what goes on in our top division on a weekly basis.

A penalty for handball after they made a particular point of telling us it isn't one if it comes off another part of the defender first.

Then a clear shirt pull right in front of the referee goes without punishment.

There were some really strange calls in other games too with Hertz getting an equally dodgy handball decision.


Would love to watch a tv show where someone sensible sits down with the referreing top brass and plays all the various clips from this season showing all the ridiculous inconsitencies and trying to get some kind of an explanation. Var has actually made things worse.

Kato
05-02-2024, 09:30 AM
Sitting in the FF I saw nothing but thought at the time the speed Collum gave the penalty probably meant there was something. Haven’t watched any highlights as watching it live was enough.

It’s all a bit of a moot point for me as think we’d have lost anyway.

Didn’t see the shirt pull so can’t comment on that.


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matty_f
05-02-2024, 09:48 AM
It's incredible what goes on in our top division on a weekly basis.

A penalty for handball after they made a particular point of telling us it isn't one if it comes off another part of the defender first.

Then a clear shirt pull right in front of the referee goes without punishment.

There were some really strange calls in other games too with Hertz getting an equally dodgy handball decision.

I would love to see an independent review into refereeing standards. I know there was a recent review where they found that there were only three incorrect VAR reviews, but I am not sure who carried out that review and also whether the scope was to assess reviews that were done that impacted the game (i.e. the ref was called to the monitor to either review a decision that he'd made or to see something he'd missed) or whether it also considered instances where VAR should have intervened, but didn't.

I have no doubt whatsoever that there is a bias with refereeing, whether that's conscious or unconscious is debatable but you cannot consistently see one or two teams get major decisions in their favour while others consistently don't.

Hibs have been absolutely shafted by VAR, the two decisions on Saturday are a starting point, and even if you take the handball as soft but "I've seen them given", there's no way the shirt pulling should have been missed. It was clear as day without needing to see a replay, never mind having the benefit of one.

And I can't think how annoyed I would be if I was David Martindale - not just for all the drug dealing stuff and that - but that first goal being allowed should see a suspension for the refereeing team for the next game. Goldson should also be on the end of a retrospective red card. I've just watched it again and it's an appalling challenge. A red card every day of the week, They gave the goal.

When your eyes make you think there's bias, and the stats back it up, then it's bias. It's not incompetence, it's not just a mistake that every team will get, it's bias and it's cheating.

JimBHibees
05-02-2024, 10:21 AM
I would love to see an independent review into refereeing standards. I know there was a recent review where they found that there were only three incorrect VAR reviews, but I am not sure who carried out that review and also whether the scope was to assess reviews that were done that impacted the game (i.e. the ref was called to the monitor to either review a decision that he'd made or to see something he'd missed) or whether it also considered instances where VAR should have intervened, but didn't.

I have no doubt whatsoever that there is a bias with refereeing, whether that's conscious or unconscious is debatable but you cannot consistently see one or two teams get major decisions in their favour while others consistently don't.

Hibs have been absolutely shafted by VAR, the two decisions on Saturday are a starting point, and even if you take the handball as soft but "I've seen them given", there's no way the shirt pulling should have been missed. It was clear as day without needing to see a replay, never mind having the benefit of one.

And I can't think how annoyed I would be if I was David Martindale - not just for all the drug dealing stuff and that - but that first goal being allowed should see a suspension for the refereeing team for the next game. Goldson should also be on the end of a retrospective red card. I've just watched it again and it's an appalling challenge. A red card every day of the week, They gave the goal.

When your eyes make you think there's bias, and the stats back it up, then it's bias. It's not incompetence, it's not just a mistake that every team will get, it's bias and it's cheating.

I think Walter Smith once said that they even themselves out over a season. :greengrin

Ron D Hibbie
05-02-2024, 10:25 AM
Just to cheer everybody up. We will get plenty decisions on wednesday. Walsh is ref with Dallas on var. 😂😂

hibsbollah
05-02-2024, 10:38 AM
I would love to see an independent review into refereeing standards. I know there was a recent review where they found that there were only three incorrect VAR reviews, but I am not sure who carried out that review and also whether the scope was to assess reviews that were done that impacted the game (i.e. the ref was called to the monitor to either review a decision that he'd made or to see something he'd missed) or whether it also considered instances where VAR should have intervened, but didn't.

I have no doubt whatsoever that there is a bias with refereeing, whether that's conscious or unconscious is debatable but you cannot consistently see one or two teams get major decisions in their favour while others consistently don't.

Hibs have been absolutely shafted by VAR, the two decisions on Saturday are a starting point, and even if you take the handball as soft but "I've seen them given", there's no way the shirt pulling should have been missed. It was clear as day without needing to see a replay, never mind having the benefit of one.

And I can't think how annoyed I would be if I was David Martindale - not just for all the drug dealing stuff and that - but that first goal being allowed should see a suspension for the refereeing team for the next game. Goldson should also be on the end of a retrospective red card. I've just watched it again and it's an appalling challenge. A red card every day of the week, They gave the goal.

When your eyes make you think there's bias, and the stats back it up, then it's bias. It's not incompetence, it's not just a mistake that every team will get, it's bias and it's cheating.

It really is. Its being going on ever since well before we started watching it.
And the selective application of VAR is only making it worse.
The only question is why any of us bother watching it.

Criswell
06-02-2024, 01:16 AM
I know we were Terrible on Saturday but the refereeing/VAR certainly did not help the the cause. Montgomery needs to be more active in calling out this shocking incompetence. Clowns like Gollum and VAR Central (Glasgow) have to made more accountable for their lamentable ineptitude. VAR get rid!

JimBHibees
06-02-2024, 05:52 AM
Just to cheer everybody up. We will get plenty decisions on wednesday. Walsh is ref with Dallas on var. 😂😂

The opposite will happen he will be trying to prove he isn't Rangers biased. They are more bothered with a relatively easy life. Given they all stay in the west doing over an Edinburgh team particularly one that doesn't complain is easier.

Jones28
06-02-2024, 06:54 AM
I would love to see an independent review into refereeing standards. I know there was a recent review where they found that there were only three incorrect VAR reviews, but I am not sure who carried out that review and also whether the scope was to assess reviews that were done that impacted the game (i.e. the ref was called to the monitor to either review a decision that he'd made or to see something he'd missed) or whether it also considered instances where VAR should have intervened, but didn't.

I have no doubt whatsoever that there is a bias with refereeing, whether that's conscious or unconscious is debatable but you cannot consistently see one or two teams get major decisions in their favour while others consistently don't.

Hibs have been absolutely shafted by VAR, the two decisions on Saturday are a starting point, and even if you take the handball as soft but "I've seen them given", there's no way the shirt pulling should have been missed. It was clear as day without needing to see a replay, never mind having the benefit of one.

And I can't think how annoyed I would be if I was David Martindale - not just for all the drug dealing stuff and that - but that first goal being allowed should see a suspension for the refereeing team for the next game. Goldson should also be on the end of a retrospective red card. I've just watched it again and it's an appalling challenge. A red card every day of the week, They gave the goal.

When your eyes make you think there's bias, and the stats back it up, then it's bias. It's not incompetence, it's not just a mistake that every team will get, it's bias and it's cheating.

https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/36621/13014909/var-in-scotland-independent-review-panel-finds-three-incorrect-decisions-in-cinch-premiership

Independent…aye ok.

Callum_62
06-02-2024, 07:05 AM
https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/36621/13014909/var-in-scotland-independent-review-panel-finds-three-incorrect-decisions-in-cinch-premiership

Independent…aye ok.There were atleast 3 shockers just this weekend [emoji1787]

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