Enjoy him while he's here

[RIP]

https://thepeoplesperson.com/2024/01/28/will-fish-continues-to-be-one-of-hibernians-standout-performers-in-spite-of-teams-struggles-275150/

I rate Obita at left back and I reckon Miller has the physical attributes to be a top right back next season.

But for a 20 year old, Will Fish is looking like a player we should push the boat out to sign permanently in the summer. If he's out our league then he will move on with my best wishes.

Still learning but getting better with every game.

[VoltaireHibs]

https://thepeoplesperson.com/2024/01/28/will-fish-continues-to-be-one-of-hibernians-standout-performers-in-spite-of-teams-struggles-275150/

I rate Obita at left back and I reckon Miller has the physical attributes to be a top right back next season.

But for a 20 year old, Will Fish is looking like a player we should push the boat out to sign permanently in the summer.

Still learning but getting better with every game.

Hm, not sure I'd be pushing the boat out too far past the pier on current displays. Decent is the word I'd use.

[JohnM1875]

Hm, not sure I'd be pushing the top far past the pier on current displays. Decent is the word I'd use.

Could be (and probably is) complete nonsense, but a guy at my work reckons we're doing all we can to make Fish a permanent and are willing to spend £2 mil to make it happen.

Could easily make a profit on that, especially with a Man Utd background, these players always seem to hold a bit of value when selling back down south. But I'm sure plenty folk will be fizzing at us spending that on a defender.

[B.H.F.C]

Fish has been as poor as the rest of the defence this season IMO. But he’s got the most potential and is better than what he’s shown. Suffered for lack of a decent partner.

[KWJ]

Expected this thread to be about Emiliano Marcondes.

[BILLYHIBS]

Would keep Obita could make a decent left back did well at Centre Back the other night

Miller has the physical attributes no doubt but he sometimes looks as though he has never seen a football before no touch or awareness looks rash in the tackle clumsy on the ball still rough around the edges

Fish I would have broken the bank to keep him but lately I am not so sure a few errors creeping in slack passes and lacks concentration but still young and a good prospect

The Foley money will be a game changer and we can afford to look at other options if it comes to pass

Bringing in an experienced established Centre Half to tell Rocky and Fish where to stand would be a good starting point

All of the above is of course imho

[VoltaireHibs]

Could be (and probably is) complete nonsense, but a guy at my work reckons we're doing all we can to make Fish a permanent and are willing to spend £2 mil to make it happen.

Could easily make a profit on that, especially with a Man Utd background, these players always seem to hold a bit of value when selling back down south. But I'm sure plenty folk will be fizzing at us spending that on a defender.

He may or may not improve a lot but he hasn't improved much this season. Certainly not a stand out. And certainly not a two million player. I like the guy but for me he's been no more than decent. Not great with the ball at his feet, we lose a lot of headers in the box, doesn't command his central area and really, I wouldn't be fussed if he leaves at the end of the season.

[JohnM1875]

He may or may not improve a lot but he hasn't improved much this season. Certainly not a stand out. And certainly not a two million player. I like the guy but for me he's been no more than decent. Not great with the ball at his feet, we lose a lot of headers in the box, doesn't command his central area and really, I wouldn't be fussed if he leaves at the end of the season.

He's 20, nearly 21 so he'll undoubtedly improve. He has been up and down this season, don't think anyone would argue with that, but surely that's to be expected with young players learning their trade?

Either way I think it's bollocks and we won't be spending £2 mil on him! I'm sure we're keen to make it permanent though.

[Mcbizz1998]

Wasn’t expecting this to be about Fish, at all. We should be aiming for better in the summer.

[Northernhibee]

He certainly may fit the profile of what the group would be looking for - young, decent pedigree, and may yet become a Premiership player.

[BILLYHIBS]

I thought this thread was about Youan tbh

[Northernhibee]

I thought this thread was about Youan tbh

For me it’s Hanlon and Stevenson. Feels like we’re looking to upgrade in every area of the squad, and with both out of contract at the end of the season there’s every chance that we’re away to see their swansong.

This chapter of the club is reaching its final words, and if they do go it’ll be gutting and a very emotional end to the season knowing we could be saying goodbye to two bonafide club legends.

[Lancs Harp]

For me it’s Hanlon and Stevenson. Feels like we’re looking to upgrade in every area of the squad, and with both out of contract at the end of the season there’s every chance that we’re away to see their swansong.

This chapter of the club is reaching its final words, and if they do go it’ll be gutting and a very emotional end to the season knowing we could be saying goodbye to two bonafide club legends.

Both superstars but both should have gone earlier.

[cubehindthegoal]

Would keep Obita could make a decent left back did well at Centre Back the other night

Miller has the physical attributes no doubt but he sometimes looks as though he has never seen a football before no touch or awareness looks rash in the tackle clumsy on the ball still rough around the edges

Fish I would have broken the bank to keep him but lately I am not so sure a few errors creeping in slack passes and lacks concentration but still young and a good prospect

The Foley money will be a game changer and we can afford to look at other options if it comes to pass

Bringing in an experienced established Centre Half to tell Rocky and Fish where to stand would be a good starting point

All of the above is of course imho

I think Miller still has something … he could be a real terrier right back .. whether he has the capabilities to continue to develop and improve, I suppose it is a bit early to tell perhaps.

As to centre half’s … my gut feeling is that the summer window will see two new ones come in … and another left back. I’m also not convinced about Megwa.

I feel positive that Monty will prioritise CBs for the summer. And of course any loan players we have to replace. Watch this space … which might be the space where I fall flat on my face prediction wise lol

[Northernhibee]

Both superstars but both should have gone earlier.

Hanlon still a very good defender at this level IMO and for me it’s only this season that Lewis has started to show his age.

[McD]

Hanlon still a very good defender at this level IMO and for me it’s only this season that Lewis has started to show his age.



:agree:

[matty_f]

Expected this thread to be about Emiliano Marcondes.

So did I!!

[cubehindthegoal]

So did I!!

😂 I think many would’ve 👍

I also just loved to see the positive title 😊

[VoltaireHibs]

He's 20, nearly 21 so he'll undoubtedly improve. He has been up and down this season, don't think anyone would argue with that, but surely that's to be expected with young players learning their trade?

Either way I think it's bollocks and we won't be spending £2 mil on him! I'm sure we're keen to make it permanent though.

I have nothing against Fish, but he doesn't, to me anyway, have any outstanding attributes. I get that he's young and will be up and down in his performance, but even with Porto you could see he had attributes, strong in the tackle and comfortable on the ball, usually. I don't see anything but a reasonably good SPL defender when I watch Fish.

[blackpoolhibs]

I have nothing against Fish, but he doesn't, to me anyway, have any outstanding attributes. I get that he's young and will be up and down in his performance, but even with Porto you could see he had attributes, strong in the tackle and comfortable on the ball, usually. I don't see anything but a reasonably good SPL defender when I watch Fish.

I agree with that, i think the hope is if we do sign him, he will improve as he gets older and more experienced.

He is very young for a central defender, he has played well beyond his years at times, but also been very average too, but he is 20 years old.

[superfurryhibby]

I have nothing against Fish, but he doesn't, to me anyway, have any outstanding attributes. I get that he's young and will be up and down in his performance, but even with Porto you could see he had attributes, strong in the tackle and comfortable on the ball, usually. I don't see anything but a reasonably good SPL defender when I watch Fish.

One of his attributes is that he doesn't lose the plot, get sent off, throw himself about and berate teammates constantly :wink:

I like Fish but he needs to be playing with someone better than at present. Aged 20, he'll be at his peak in eight or nine years, sdo I think he has plenty of development left in him.

[CapitalGreen]

Fish has been as poor as the rest of the defence this season IMO. But he’s got the most potential and is better than what he’s shown. Suffered for lack of a decent partner.

He had a couple of bad moments at the start of the season and in recent weeks but September/October/November he was very good and probably our best player.

[JimBHibees]

I think Fish has been ok this season not as commanding as would like to see him at times however decent on the ball and could do with a consistent player either side of him (full back and centre back).

[Pytheas]

Thought Fish was excellent against killie, just cos we concede doesn't mean every individual defende played badly.

Made at least 2 great blocks and that last ditch tackle is something we've not been seeing from our defenders, that was as good as a goal.

[Unseen work]

Decent player who id like to see join us permanently.

He seems quite a shy and quiet lad to me, hopefully grows to become a real leader.

[JimBHibees]

Thought Fish was excellent against killie, just cos we concede doesn't mean every individual defende played badly.

Made at least 2 great blocks and that last ditch tackle is something we've not been seeing from our defenders, that was as good as a goal.

Last ditch tackle was brilliant

[Since452]

I was about to lose my **** at another pro Montgomery post there :greengrin

[DH1875]

Wouldn't say he's been our stand out performer at all. Far from it infact. Our whole defence is poor in my opinion.

[J-C]

Fish is OK, not a real stand out but decent, still a lot of improving to do but he's on a long term deal at United, he'll probably end up in the Championship next season.

[Centre Hawf]

I have nothing against Fish, but he doesn't, to me anyway, have any outstanding attributes. I get that he's young and will be up and down in his performance, but even with Porto you could see he had attributes, strong in the tackle and comfortable on the ball, usually. I don't see anything but a reasonably good SPL defender when I watch Fish.

Fish is averaging the most clearances and blocks per game in the Scottish Premiership, he's a very good out and out defender especially for his age.

[JohnM1875]

Fish is averaging the most clearances and blocks per game in the Scottish Premiership, he's a very good out and out defender especially for his age.

Seventh in terms of interceptions per game as well. Impressive stats for any defender, never mind one just about to turn 21

[Centre Hawf]

Seventh in terms of interceptions per game as well. Impressive stats for any defender, never mind one just about to turn 21

If Fish came through our academy and was producing stats like he is folk would demand Hibs don't even entertain an offer below £2/3m. It would be a huge investment and a gamble at the end of the day regardless, but he's a player I'd happily make permanent as a statement of intent if the Foley money allowed us.

[s.a.m]

One of his attributes is that he doesn't lose the plot, get sent off, throw himself about and berate teammates constantly :wink:

I like Fish but he needs to be playing with someone better than at present. Aged 20, he'll be at his peak in eight or nine years, sdo I think he has plenty of development left in him.


Fish is averaging the most clearances and blocks per game in the Scottish Premiership, he's a very good out and out defender especially for his age.

I like him. As said above, he's solid and assured and sensible - more so than you'd expect for his age and experience. He could definitely do with someone experienced beside him to help him progress, but I think he's very decent for where we - and he - are at.

[Saint Hibee]

I think he's okay. That's about it.

[Smartie]

I think he's very good.

We could do all our defenders a favour by stopping the chopping and changing though. I'm all for rotating a squad to keep it fresh but it's different every week.

You'd expect a settled back 4 to play better than 4 folk who look like they've just been thrown together every week.

[B.H.F.C]

I think he's very good.

We could do all our defenders a favour by stopping the chopping and changing though. I'm all for rotating a squad to keep it fresh but it's different every week.

You'd expect a settled back 4 to play better than 4 folk who look like they've just been thrown together every week.

Think part of the reason for the changes all the time is lack of performance. Hanlon would be an example. Came in and did pretty well at Livingston, kept his place at St Johnstone, had a disaster for an hour meaning Rocky was back on only for him to then make a mistake in the derby the following week.

Only way to get any consistency is to get players in who are more capable IMO. Doesn’t really matter what we’ve done with the defence this season, it’s just not worked.

[Johnny_Leith]

I think fish, for being 20 years old, is excellent. He's got all the attributes a modern centre half needs. Generally, his defensive positioning is very strong, good distribution, great in the air.

Of course he's made mistakes last season and this but he's still very young and it's to be expected. He has also had some absolute superb games for Hibs. Was colossal at Luzern away.

He'll have a big future in the game and would be a smart investment, if a deal can be done.

[Stanton Spence]

Expected this thread to be about Emiliano Marcondes.

So did I 😂

[Smartie]

Think part of the reason for the changes all the time is lack of performance. Hanlon would be an example. Came in and did pretty well at Livingston, kept his place at St Johnstone, had a disaster for an hour meaning Rocky was back on only for him to then make a mistake in the derby the following week.

Only way to get any consistency is to get players in who are more capable IMO. Doesn’t really matter what we’ve done with the defence this season, it’s just not worked.

I think you can also acknowledge that good players can have bad games, make mistakes and give away goals. Hanlon's going to make more mistakes if he's in and out the side, being put on after 70 minutes etc. When he gets a run in the team he's generally very solid.

The defence hasn't really been a problem in recent years and I don't see why it should be now. Hanlon and Fish had a very good second half to last season. As time has caught up with Stevenson we've bought it Obita who looks like a perfectly capable replacement. RB has been very hit or miss, with Miller looking outstanding some weeks and hopeless others.

If players are allowed a bit of leeway and not binned every time they err, and they still end up not looking good enough then it's replacements that are needed.

I'm not going to suggest our defending has been good enough, it really hasn't, but I don't have the same desire for constant new blood and chopping and changing that others have. I don't think the formation or our midfield (especially the likes of Youan and Levitt) help our defence and the goals against stat that inevitably gets held against them.

[King Cosell]

Sauzee, Latapy, Scott Brown & SJM are 'enjoy him while he's here' players.

Fish, Porteous, Doig & Nisbet are replaceable.

[Is It On....]

Expected this thread to be about Emiliano Marcondes.

So was I tbh.

[sauzee1989]

Shocked this is a post about Will fish. He’s had maybe 2 decent games all season and looked all over shop against Forfar striker

[RIP]

Shocked this is a post about Will fish. He’s had maybe 2 decent games all season and looked all over shop against Forfar striker

That's a load of Will Fish

[xbar81]

Single fish. I don't think he's that good

[flash]

Single fish. I don't think he's that good

Not compared to Halkett eh?

[Springbank]

Sauzee, Latapy, Scott Brown & SJM are 'enjoy him while he's here' players.

Fish, Porteous, Doig & Nisbet are replaceable.

You took the words right out of my mouth

I like Will Fish but "enjoy him while he's here" is for the select few

Had he won the Scottish (which he arguably should have in 2005, when Mowbray inexplicably subbed him at 1-0 up in the semi) I'd have added Derek Riordan to that list of, "seriously, enjoy him while he's here", and as a kid going to games in the 80s Johnny Collins was a Rolls Royce of a footballer, and it was no surprise to see him go on to win the French League, get to the European Cup semis & scoring v Brazil in a World Cup match. Loved those footballers

[xbar81]

Not compared to Halkett eh?

Don't care about them, only interested in Hibs.

[hibsbollah]

Don't care about them, only interested in Hibs.

I can’t believe you’re still on here.

[xbar81]

I can’t believe you’re still on here.

??

[RIP]

??

Name your favourite six Hibs players. 😉

[WestStandWillie]

https://thepeoplesperson.com/2024/01/28/will-fish-continues-to-be-one-of-hibernians-standout-performers-in-spite-of-teams-struggles-275150/

I rate Obita at left back and I reckon Miller has the physical attributes to be a top right back next season.

But for a 20 year old, Will Fish is looking like a player we should push the boat out to sign permanently in the summer. If he's out our league then he will move on with my best wishes.

Still learning but getting better with every game.

Will Fish has been just as bad as the rest of the backline. Wouldn't be high up my list of players to sign. We can do much better than him.

He struggled against Forfar players :rolleyes:

[sauzee1989]

What a nonsense this is! Would drive him down to Manchester now. So weak for a centre half

[sauzee1989]

Not enjoying him at all.

[A Hi-Bee]

Did not see him today, but I always see centre halfs not being fully up to the top of their game until into around 26 or 27 a lot of them mature in football later than other outfield players.
So I give him some slack, the goalie on the other hand.

[Exuberance1875]

Boys 21 year old, given some of the slack miller, Campbell etc get. He deserves it too. Much worse than him at this club

[hibsmad]

He’s a good centre back. In fact at our level he’s a very good centre back. The problem is that he is young and relatively inexperienced, and we have him out there with Triantis.

**** me can we not just stop pissing money on wingers and strikers and just sign an experienced centre back. It would transform our team.

I have also no doubt that Fish would look an infinitely better player.

[Centre Hawf]

I do like Will Fish, but the most obvious part of watching him this last year now has been that he cannot play beside anyone bar an experienced centre half in Paul Hanlon. Which makes sense because he is a very inexperienced laddie in the grand scheme of his career.

Him and Triantis however is a disaster waiting to happen at this point and him and Rocky was barely any better.

[7Hero]

He's had plenty partners at the back, yet we still leak in stupid goals, maybe he's not the player a lot of people think he is..

[Tambo]

Most definitely not playing to the levels he played in the last 6 months of last season.

[JimBHibees]

Think that was his worst game for us looked unsettled and nervous from the first minute. Similar as Nectar seemed strangely shaky today. Think they need to be much better and the offside line for first goal was very poor. Would be bringing back Hanlon for next week.

[Tyler Durden]

For the money we’ve spent, to be relying on Miller and Fish as first choice players is absolutely criminal.

They’ve cost us so many goals this season. Our standards need to be much higher.

[PHeffernan]

I do like Will Fish, but the most obvious part of watching him this last year now has been that he cannot play beside anyone bar an experienced centre half in Paul Hanlon. Which makes sense because he is a very inexperienced laddie in the grand scheme of his career.

Him and Triantis however is a disaster waiting to happen at this point and him and Rocky was barely any better.

It's hugely obvious to me. Unless Hanlon has an injury I cannot understand why him and Fish are not the centre half pair. Maybe if he changed his name to Paulo Hanlonini the doubters would see him differently.

[NC1875]

It's hugely obvious to me. Unless Hanlon has an injury I cannot understand why him and Fish are not the centre half pair. Maybe if he changed his name to Paulo Hanlonini the doubters would see him differently.

We’re just as bad with Hanlonini in the team. And have been for years. You think you could see that

[Heisenberg]

His attempts at defending for that second goal were laughable. Major part of our defensive problems all season.

[Nicho87]

If that was Paul Hanlon he’d be getting told to retire etc

[B.H.F.C]

I find it hard to be too critical of him because we’re stupidly playing two on loan, 20 year olds at centre half. It’s ridiculous.

But he’s struggled this season IMO. I couldn’t believe people were suggesting him for POTY.

[J-C]

He must be good because he 's on Man U books, well so was Levitt and I'm not a fan of his either, I know folk will say that we're only Hibs and these are the level of players we get here, well TBH I'm fed up signing bang average players who are continually making this team bottom 6 with their performance levels.

[easty]

Fish isn’t playing well, neither is Triantis. I’m pretty confident that both would benefit from playing in a better defence. Are there any examples of teams going with 2 20 year old centre halfs, and it going well?

Defence is an issue, clearly. If we had a strong experienced centre half in there with Fish. We’d be better off, and so would his development.

[BILLYHIBS]

For me hasn’t looked the same player I remember from the second part of last season

As someone else pointed out always looks better with an experienced player talking him through games

Playing two rookies at Centre Back is asking for trouble

Shankland will be rubbing his hands

Needs to improve his composure and passing imho

Nectar looks a good passer of the ball and has potential despite his two penalty mistakes

We don’t have time to nurse along rookies we need to get back to winning ways starting from Saturday

[Heedersnvolleys]

I thought Nectar was worse yesterday.

[J-C]

Fish isn’t playing well, neither is Triantis. I’m pretty confident that both would benefit from playing in a better defence. Are there any examples of teams going with 2 20 year old centre halfs, and it going well?

Defence is an issue, clearly. If we had a strong experienced centre half in there with Fish. We’d be better off, and so would his development.

I don't understand this bit, they are 2 out of the 4 in defence and only Obita is good enough, how can they benefit playing in a better defence when they are the defence?

[easty]

I don't understand this bit, they are 2 out of the 4 in defence and only Obita is good enough, how can they benefit playing in a better defence when they are the defence?

I mean if either one of them were playing in a better defence. Not both together.

You stick young laddies into a ***** defence and you’re going to struggle. It doesn’t just relate to defenders to be fair. If we were going through the season with 2 20 year olds in in centre midfield or playing together up front. They’d struggle too.

[J-C]

I mean if either one of them were playing in a better defence. Not both together.

You stick young laddies into a ***** defence and you’re going to struggle. It doesn’t just relate to defenders to be fair. If we were going through the season with 2 20 year olds in in centre midfield or playing together up front. They’d struggle too.

:aok: Get you now.

[BILLYHIBS]

I thought Nectar was worse yesterday.

:wink:

Yip went through a dip that you get with youngsters

Miller and Fish culpable for the second goal Fish couldn’t get the ball out from under his feet to boot it clear leaving McGrath with a toe poke

Scrappy

[wookie70]

Very good for his age and would be a good option next to an experienced left sided player and right back. Unfortunately we have him in between two players who lack experience and aren't great defensively week to week. You need to build a unit in defense and we are not even the sum of our parts

[VoltaireHibs]

I really don't see what he's good at? His distribution is kamikaze, his positional sense is poor, he struggles to stay upright, he's doesn't command in the air. Where is this talent? I'd be packing him off back to Manchester at the end of the season. Sure he's a decent guy, but, like so many of our players, he needs to go and learn his trade.

[BoomtownHibees]

Only one of the young centre halfs should be playing alongside an experienced, proper defender who will coach them throughout the game. Playing both of them together is criminal

Can’t believe it’s yet another season we have neglected to properly strengthen that area of the pitch

[flash]

Does anyone have the time to work out which of our defensive pairings has the lowest average goals conceded?
I genuinely haven't got a clue what the answer would be.

[Saint Hibee]

I think a lot of people think Fish is better than he is, and a lot of people think Rocky is worse than he is. I honestly don’t think there’s an awful lot between them.

[Gmack7]

Does anyone have the time to work out which of our defensive pairings has the lowest average goals conceded?
I genuinely haven't got a clue what the answer would be.

It will be much better when we have our untried, young, inexperienced, on loan, injured CB from Bournemouth playing

[The Modfather]

Does anyone have the time to work out which of our defensive pairings has the lowest average goals conceded?
I genuinely haven't got a clue what the answer would be.

Bald men fighting over a comb whoever it is.

[KWJ]

:wink:

Yip went through a dip that you get with youngsters

Miller and Fish culpable for the second goal Fish couldn’t get the ball out from under his feet to boot it clear leaving McGrath with a toe poke

Scrappy

Traintis just as much too. Stood off McGrath and let him hit it through his legs. Had to put pressure on him.

Would start Hanlon with Fish again next match.

[RIP]

Two out of four defenders are the age where they would be playing reserve or under-21 football.

But isn't it the case that teams attack with 11 and defend with 11? The Aberdeen 11 restricted Hibs to 2 goals and 5 other attempts on target.

Yet our 11 offered Aberdeen 2 goals and a further 20 attempts on goal

Maybe we should be asking why our centre halves and keeper and having to cope with 4 times the attacking volume? What protection is being offered front to middle?

[Mcbizz1998]

Very good for his age and would be a good option next to an experienced left sided player and right back. Unfortunately we have him in between two players who lack experience and aren't great defensively week to week. You need to build a unit in defense and we are not even the sum of our parts

Is he? Porteous was miles ahead of him at the same age. What is he supposed to be good at?

[BILLYHIBS]

Traintis just as much too. Stood off McGrath and let him hit it through his legs. Had to put pressure on him.

Would start Hanlon with Fish again next match.

Would defo start Hanlon

The way I am feeling about our defence would not rule out Rocky at least you know what you are going to get

[Since452]

Would defo start Hanlon

The way I am feeling about our defence would not rule out Rocky at least you know what you are going to get

Incredible that we've had a transfer window and we're talking about putting Hanlon and Rocky back in. Not a dig at you btw as i agree. Just nonsense we brought in two young CB's in January, one of which was injured. Couldn't make it up really.

[BILLYHIBS]

Incredible that we've had a transfer window and we're talking about putting Hanlon and Rocky back in. Not a dig at you btw as i agree. Just nonsense we brought in two young CB's in January, one of which was injured. Couldn't make it up really.

:aok:

[shetlandhibee]

Think that was his worst game for us looked unsettled and nervous from the first minute. Similar as Nectar seemed strangely shaky today. Think they need to be much better and the offside line for first goal was very poor. Would be bringing back Hanlon for next week.

Totally agree how Hanlons no starting just now is bizzare IMO 👌

[Hibeesdaft16]

Incredible that we've had a transfer window and we're talking about putting Hanlon and Rocky back in. Not a dig at you btw as i agree. Just nonsense we brought in two young CB's in January, one of which was injured. Couldn't make it up really.


Who would have ever thought that 3 under 20 loan signings in the centre of decent wouldn't be the answer to our prayers :confused:

[ekhibee]

You took the words right out of my mouth

I like Will Fish but "enjoy him while he's here" is for the select few

Had he won the Scottish (which he arguably should have in 2005, when Mowbray inexplicably subbed him at 1-0 up in the semi) I'd have added Derek Riordan to that list of, "seriously, enjoy him while he's here", and as a kid going to games in the 80s Johnny Collins was a Rolls Royce of a footballer, and it was no surprise to see him go on to win the French League, get to the European Cup semis & scoring v Brazil in a World Cup match. Loved those footballers

I thought Riordan was suspended that year for getting booked against Falkirk, maybe I'm thinking of another game though, it was the year O'connor went to Moscow and Scott Brown was injured I think.

[WhileTheChief..]

Mind when folk thought Ryan Porteous wasn't good enough for us?!! Would love to have someone like him in our defence now.

Both him and Doig were infinitely better than any of the defenders we've signed since Ross was sacked. Three years we've been saying we needed to sign central defenders and still nothing. It's grim.

[Billy Whizz]

Totally agree how Hanlons no starting just now is bizzare IMO 👌

He s been unavailable up until Saturday due to illness

[Hibeesdaft16]

I thought Riordan was suspended that year for getting booked against Falkirk, maybe I'm thinking of another game though, it was the year O'connor went to Moscow and Scott Brown was injured I think.


Riordan was suspended. We had no option but to give Benji his debut and play him up top with a very young Fletch because as you say after Falkirk we sold Big Gaz. Brown was injured also, yeah.

[Hibeesdaft16]

Mind when folk thought Ryan Porteous wasn't good enough for us?!! Would love to have someone like him in our defence now.

Both him and Doig were infinitely better than any of the defenders we've signed since Ross was sacked. Three years we've been saying we needed to sign central defenders and still nothing. It's grim.

People actually said this time last year that Porteous was the problem.

[hibsbollah]

People actually said this time last year that Porteous was the problem.

Porto had ridiculous talent. He was also very up and down, sometimes (at mirren away a particular example) seemed to give up and start fannying about, and had his mind set on a move months before he left.

[Hibeesdaft16]

Porto had ridiculous talent. He was also very up and down, sometimes (at mirren away a particular example) seemed to give up and start fannying about, and had his mind set on a move months before he left.

I wouldn't disagree with that, his head was gone after he got his Scotland call ups imo. He was still miles better than anything we have now though.

[The Modfather]

Porto had ridiculous talent. He was also very up and down, sometimes (at mirren away a particular example) seemed to give up and start fannying about, and had his mind set on a move months before he left.

To be fair he also had to step into midfield to do a lot of the things the infamous Newell, JDH & Campbell trio couldn’t or wouldn’t do. I’d like to see him with the post January midfield in front of him. Although it was the right time for him to move. He’d stopped progressing and hopefully being a small fish in a big pond is what he needs. He’s been excellent for Scotland.

[hibsbollah]

To be fair he also had to step into midfield to do a lot of the things the infamous Newell, JDH & Campbell trio couldn’t or wouldn’t do. I’d like to see him with the post January midfield in front of him. Although it was the right time for him to move. He’d stopped progressing and hopefully being a small fish in a big pond is what he needs. He’s been excellent for Scotland.

Yes, he’s a level above what we can (or could?) afford to pay, no doubt about it. But at the end of his time at Hibs some of the criticism of him was also fair.