Safe Standing

[Hermit Crab]

Introduced from season 24/25. :thumbsup:


https://x.com/HibernianFC/status/1750820902219001933?s=20

[IanM]

Amazing how much things we get right off the pitch. Well done

[mcohibs]

Great news.

[Jones28]

Good news, really the only solution to the FFL lower being empty half the time. Didn’t look great on PPV the other night.

[AL-Qaholik]

Do we reckon everybody “loses” their ST seat and it becomes a free-for-all at renewal time?
Kinda seems like the only fair option.

[Bristolhibby]

Great news.

Will be rammed no doubt going forward and look great in the stadium and on the telly.

J

[Jones28]

Do we reckon everybody “loses” their ST seat and it becomes a free-for-all at renewal time?
Kinda seems like the only fair option.

I think existing STs who want to stay should get first pick and the rest goes to general sale.

[Hibby70]

I assume that the family section will now either be the wings of the East or Section 25 in FFU.

[Bobby's Cinema]

Good News. This will hopefully get the East going again too.

[.Sean.]

Good News. This will hopefully get the East going again too.
Yep, best thing to come out of this for me personally is Block 7 and their TikTok songs out of earshot in the East

In all seriousness what a difference this should make. I won’t make the move but I’m all for it

[delaCalz]

Good news

[Steve-O]

Does this mean our capacity is also increased?

[Ozyhibby]

Does this mean our capacity is also increased?

Doubt it. Each person standing will still have a seat folded up behind them.


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[hibee-boys]

Well done Hibs, a far better use of that area given that it’s half empty in the vast majority of games. Sounds like areas will be assigned for families in other areas of the ground. Not going to please everyone I’m sure but I think it’s what’s for the club.

[Pretty Boy]

Does this mean our capacity is also increased?

Unlikely.

In areas specifically built for safe standing you can get extra wide rail seats and extra deep rows to allow either 1.5 or 2 persons per seated space. We don't have that so it's more likely we'll have to work on a 1:1 ratio.

That's guesswork on my part but it was certainly the case for Newcastle when they were exploring safe standing and the layout of SJP in terms of space and so on is broadly comparable to ER.

[DarrenSQH]

Family have a group in block 18 since 2002 and we currently go from the age of 4 years old to 80. Heard absolutely nothing from the club.

[.Sean.]

I take it this will be the full lower tier?

[Steve-O]

Unlikely.

In areas specifically built for safe standing you can get extra wide rail seats and extra deep rows to allow either 1.5 or 2 persons per seated space. We don't have that so it's more likely we'll have to work on a 1:1 ratio.

That's guesswork on my part but it was certainly the case for Newcastle when they were exploring safe standing and the layout of SJP in terms of space and so on is broadly comparable to ER.

Celtic Park standing looks like there are much more in there but not sure if it’s an illusion or there really are more in there?

[overdrive]

I assume that the family section will now either be the wings of the East or Section 25 in FFU.

Great. Braced for them trying to turf us out of our seats again.

[Steve-O]

Family have a group in block 18 since 2002 and we currently go from the age of 4 years old to 80. Heard absolutely nothing from the club.

Not sure that’s true given there has been an extensive consultation and they’ve announced the outcome of that today.

[KWJ]

Family have a group in block 18 since 2002 and we currently go from the age of 4 years old to 80. Heard absolutely nothing from the club.

There was an emailed survey to everyone on the mailing list a good while back, as they mentioned in the post. I'd be surprised if that was the only thing to the existing STs there.

[EGL2000]

Brilliant, amazing potential for big games in regards to displays, atmosphere etc

[scottish_sleepy]

So instead of lots of empty spaces in the ffl for TV we'll now have lots of spaces in the east instead directly in front of the cameras. Not sure how that's any better.

[mcohibs]

Do we know whether there will be an priority given to anyone looking to purchase ST in that area? I’m aware Block 7 want to move there, are they being allocated some of that space?

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Unlikely.

In areas specifically built for safe standing you can get extra wide rail seats and extra deep rows to allow either 1.5 or 2 persons per seated space. We don't have that so it's more likely we'll have to work on a 1:1 ratio.

That's guesswork on my part but it was certainly the case for Newcastle when they were exploring safe standing and the layout of SJP in terms of space and so on is broadly comparable to ER.

I don't know how a terrace can be structured differently to accommodate more people but the new Everton stadium will have a seated capacity of roughly 53,000. They have said previously that it has been designed in such a way that it may be possible to accommodate up to 60,000 with safe standing.

[DarrenSQH]

There was an emailed survey to everyone on the mailing list a good while back, as they mentioned in the post. I'd be surprised if that was the only thing to the existing STs there.

The only thing any of us received was a link to that survey from my group.

[hibee]

Do we know whether there will be an priority given to anyone looking to purchase ST in that area? I’m aware Block 7 want to move there, are they being allocated some of that space?

I’m sure Block 7 will get whatever location they want.

[Onceinawhile]

Great news. The indecipherable nonsense will continue, but the drum getting banged randomly will no longer give me a headache.

Still would rather have spent the money on a decent player personally.

[Pretty Boy]

I don't know how a terrace can be structured differently to accommodate more people but the new Everton stadium will have a seated capacity of roughly 53,000. They have said previously that it has been designed in such a way that it may be possible to accommodate up to 60,000 with safe standing.

This is from the Newcastle consultation and explains the different construction:

To understand this, let’s look across the North Sea at mainland Europe. There, in Germany especially, safe standing areas have long been configured to accommodate more than one standing fan per rail seat place. That’s done by running an extra step along the back of each seating row, so that some fans can stand on that back step, while others stand in front of them directly behind the rail. Because these areas have invariably been built from scratch, the seating rows have been designed to be very spacious, and the rail seats fitted have been very wide. This combination of wide seats, deep rows and a rear step often provides room for up to two standing fans per seat space. But that won’t be possible at SJP. At least not without major rebuilding work. And a change in the law.

Not sure if that is the way the Everton stadium has been designed.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

So instead of lots of empty spaces in the ffl for TV we'll now have lots of spaces in the east instead directly in front of the cameras. Not sure how that's any better.

There already are plenty empty in the East, but yes there will be more of them going forward.

I'm broadly in favour of the standing section, if its handled correctly but unlike others understand that it won't miraculously conjur up another couple of thousand supporters to fill empty seats.

[nonshinyfinish]

So instead of lots of empty spaces in the ffl for TV we'll now have lots of spaces in the east instead directly in front of the cameras. Not sure how that's any better.


There already are plenty empty in the East, but yes there will be more of them going forward.

What makes you say the family section will move to the east? Could be west lower or FF upper, both of which are less visible on tv.

[.Sean.]

This is from the Newcastle consultation and explains the different construction:

To understand this, let’s look across the North Sea at mainland Europe. There, in Germany especially, safe standing areas have long been configured to accommodate more than one standing fan per rail seat place. That’s done by running an extra step along the back of each seating row, so that some fans can stand on that back step, while others stand in front of them directly behind the rail. Because these areas have invariably been built from scratch, the seating rows have been designed to be very spacious, and the rail seats fitted have been very wide. This combination of wide seats, deep rows and a rear step often provides room for up to two standing fans per seat space. But that won’t be possible at SJP. At least not without major rebuilding work. And a change in the law.

Not sure if that is the way the Everton stadium has been designed.27635

This photo shows how Germany configure their standing sections so you can get 2 people standing in place of 1 seat. Don’t think that’s possible for us

[Nakedmanoncrack]

What makes you say the family section will move to the east? Could be west lower or FF upper, both of which are less visible on tv.

I think it's a fair assumption that most of those who will move to the standing section will relocate from the East - which has to mean more empty seats in the East regardless of what is done with family section.

[nonshinyfinish]

I think it's a fair assumption that most of those who will move to the standing section will relocate from the East - which has to mean more empty seats in the East regardless of what is done with family section.

Ah ok, I see what you mean.

[Iain G]

Should be called the Safe Stanton Stand

[Glory Lurker]

It's not a surprise. It won't help the atmosphere though if it's just the B7 plus hingers oan crèche.

[overdrive]

What makes you say the family section will move to the east? Could be west lower or FF upper, both of which are less visible on tv.

Even if the family section doesn't move to the East there will be spaces. This isn't going increase our crowd by a couple of thousand. Currently, Block 7 are in the East. They will want to move to the safe standing in the FFL. No doubt others will want to move from the East to the FFL. So either those in the current family section move to the East and don't show up much as they do now or they move elsewhere not seen on the cameras. Either way, there will be spaces in the East.

[Gloucester Hibs]

Will ST holders currently in the FF lower get first dibs on the safe standing seats? They should IMO. Seems to be an assumption block 7 will just roll in and take over.

[overdrive]

Will ST holders currently in the FF lower get first dibs on the safe standing seats? They should IMO. Seems to be an assumption block 7 will just roll in and take over.

Given they seem to be mates with BK and seem to get preferential treatment at away grounds (although officially denied), I think it is a fairly safe assumption to make.

[SHODAN]

This is fantastic news.

Don't let Block 7 anywhere near it.

[CapitalGreen]

It's not a surprise. It won't help the atmosphere though if it's just the B7 plus hingers oan crèche.

People have been requesting safe standing since well before most of B7 were likely born and the safe standing section will exist long after B7 disband.

[cabbageandribs1875]

shame for folk that have sat in the sections behind the goals for years

[04Sauzee]

This is fantastic news.

Don't let Block 7 anywhere near it.

https://i.ibb.co/2hwB8Nj/Screenshot-2024-01-26-11-11-13-59-0b2fce7a16bf2b728d6ffa28c8d60efb.jpg (https://ibb.co/2hwB8Nj)

[MKHIBEE]

The only thing any of us received was a link to that survey from my group.

So the club did offer you the chance to participate in the process which led to the decision to implement safe standing?

[Power]

I’m happy to help at any moment on this. Just drop me a message.

It has been noted throughout the factfinding process and during the consultation meetings, no Season Ticket Holder will be made to move from their current purchased seat if they so wish and should any current supporter (and family or community group) wish to move to a different area we’ll have various options for them. The Club must ensure that a duty of care is provided to those impacted and we’ll be contacting those people direct to offer a personal service on what they want to do next.

In September last year, we communicated with all supporters via direct email and released an article on our website (Fan Consultation: Singing Section - https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/fan-consultation-singing-section) and a thread on here about holding an in-person meeting at Easter Road on the 10th of October and an online meeting the following night on the 11th regarding matchday experience, singing and standing sections. Running concurrently at this time, we had a survey open to all for gathering supporter opinions on the singing section and atmosphere at Easter Road.

Key highlights from the survey is noted in the article we released today here (Safe Standing To Be Introduced At Easter Road - https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/safe-standing-to-be-introduced-at-easter-road)

✳️ More than 1,700 Season Ticket holders completed the survey

✳️ 83% of supporters are in favour of safe standing being introduced to the Famous Five Lower

✳️ 82% of supporters believe the introduction of a safe standing section would improve the atmosphere at Easter
Road

✳️ If safe standing was introduced to the Famous Five Lower, 51% of current Season Ticket holders within this section would either remain in the section or be interested in more information

✳️ 65% of current Famous Five Lower Season Ticket holders said that Family Section pricing was extremely important to them

✳️ 70% of Famous Five Lower Season Ticket holders stated that sitting within a designated Family Section was either extremely important or important to them

The Club is now working behind-the-scenes to finalise how safe standing will be introduced to the Famous Five Lower Tier.
A new designated family area will also be introduced inside Easter Road with prices that match the 2023/24 Famous Five Lower family pricing. We have more stadium change announcements to roll out soon.

The Club understands that the topic of change can be difficult and appreciates all supporters' dedication to Hibernian FC. Our goal is to make sure that any transitions are carried out as smoothly, as positively and as fairly for all.

If I can help any supporter on this, or anything else, just give me a shout.

[hibee]

This is fantastic news.

Don't let Block 7 anywhere near it.

There is no mention of Block 7 moving in the announcement so they’ll just have to get lucky and all manage to purchase seats together on the day they are released.

[DH1875]

https://i.ibb.co/2hwB8Nj/Screenshot-2024-01-26-11-11-13-59-0b2fce7a16bf2b728d6ffa28c8d60efb.jpg (https://ibb.co/2hwB8Nj)

No mention of Block 7.

[Chipper1875]

Do we know whether there will be an priority given to anyone looking to purchase ST in that area? I’m aware Block 7 want to move there, are they being allocated some of that space?

They have already tweeted… they think it’s their section

[neil7908]

Amazing how much things we get right off the pitch. Well done

Yup. Now if only we can get it right on the pitch!

[04Sauzee]

No mention of Block 7.

Barrie Wilkins the Hibs announcer tweeted

Great news, hopefully now having @blocksevenhibs behind the goals to improve the atmosphere in the stadium will also help us move towards making Easter Road even better. Another step forward in improving the stadium experience

[DH1875]

This is fantastic news.

Don't let Block 7 anywhere near it.

100% agree but they will be all over it and think its their section.

[Jones28]

I’m happy to help at any moment on this. Just drop me a message.

It has been noted throughout the factfinding process and during the consultation meetings, no Season Ticket Holder will be made to move from their current purchased seat if they so wish and should any current supporter (and family or community group) wish to move to a different area we’ll have various options for them. The Club must ensure that a duty of care is provided to those impacted and we’ll be contacting those people direct to offer a personal service on what they want to do next.

In September last year, we communicated with all supporters via direct email and released an article on our website (Fan Consultation: Singing Section - https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/fan-consultation-singing-section) and a thread on here about holding an in-person meeting at Easter Road on the 10th of October and an online meeting the following night on the 11th regarding matchday experience, singing and standing sections. Running concurrently at this time, we had a survey open to all for gathering supporter opinions on the singing section and atmosphere at Easter Road.

Key highlights from the survey is noted in the article we released today here (Safe Standing To Be Introduced At Easter Road - https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/safe-standing-to-be-introduced-at-easter-road)

✳️ More than 1,700 Season Ticket holders completed the survey

✳️ 83% of supporters are in favour of safe standing being introduced to the Famous Five Lower

✳️ 82% of supporters believe the introduction of a safe standing section would improve the atmosphere at Easter
Road

✳️ If safe standing was introduced to the Famous Five Lower, 51% of current Season Ticket holders within this section would either remain in the section or be interested in more information

✳️ 65% of current Famous Five Lower Season Ticket holders said that Family Section pricing was extremely important to them

✳️ 70% of Famous Five Lower Season Ticket holders stated that sitting within a designated Family Section was either extremely important or important to them

The Club is now working behind-the-scenes to finalise how safe standing will be introduced to the Famous Five Lower Tier.
A new designated family area will also be introduced inside Easter Road with prices that match the 2023/24 Famous Five Lower family pricing. We have more stadium change announcements to roll out soon.

The Club understands that the topic of change can be difficult and appreciates all supporters' dedication to Hibernian FC. Our goal is to make sure that any transitions are carried out as smoothly, as positively and as fairly for all.

If I can help any supporter on this, or anything else, just give me a shout.

Brilliant as ever KP.

[PH91]

shame for folk that have sat in the sections behind the goals for years

The fair way to deal with this would be for every st holder in the stadium to 'lose' their seat and everyone needs a new seat for next season.

[CapitalGreen]

The fair way to deal with this would be for every st holder in the stadium to 'lose' their seat and everyone needs a new seat for next season.

Is that what happened when we rebuilt each of the new stands?

[Keyser Sauzee]

Doubt it. Each person standing will still have a seat folded up behind them.


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Will they not be removing all the seats in the area and install a rail at the front of each row instead?

[Cameron1875]

Look at the FF on wednesday and the fact the stadium in general was a library. Horsed 3-0 and a miserable experience all round.

Well done to the club for being brave enough to go ahead with this despite the inevitable backlash. If people who sit in these sections haven't been consulted then that is poor from the club.

If they have been consulted and are simply giving it "well this is ma seat" then hopefully eventually they will see the bigger picture.

[nonshinyfinish]

Will they not be removing all the seats in the area and install a rail at the front of each row instead?

It's normally a seat and a rail, because different competitions have different rules. E.g. for years German grounds had this setup because they could have standing at league games but not in Europe. I think the seats 'lock' in the folded up position for games where standing is allowed.

I don't know if UEFA's rules have changed, but even if they now allow some standing it's probably wise that whatever is installed is flexible in case of future rule changes.

[xbar81]

Means it's easier to walk out when we are losing. I'm all for it. :greengrin

[Nakedmanoncrack]

I’m happy to help at any moment on this. Just drop me a message.

It has been noted throughout the factfinding process and during the consultation meetings, The Club must ensure that a duty of care is provided to those impacted and we’ll be contacting those people direct to offer a personal service on what they want to do next.

In September last year, we communicated with all supporters via direct email and released an article on our website (Fan Consultation: Singing Section - https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/fan-consultation-singing-section) and a thread on here about holding an in-person meeting at Easter Road on the 10th of October and an online meeting the following night on the 11th regarding matchday experience, singing and standing sections. Running concurrently at this time, we had a survey open to all for gathering supporter opinions on the singing section and atmosphere at Easter Road.

Key highlights from the survey is noted in the article we released today here (Safe Standing To Be Introduced At Easter Road - https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/safe-standing-to-be-introduced-at-easter-road)

✳️ More than 1,700 Season Ticket holders completed the survey

✳️ 83% of supporters are in favour of safe standing being introduced to the Famous Five Lower

✳️ 82% of supporters believe the introduction of a safe standing section would improve the atmosphere at Easter
Road

✳️ If safe standing was introduced to the Famous Five Lower, 51% of current Season Ticket holders within this section would either remain in the section or be interested in more information

✳️ 65% of current Famous Five Lower Season Ticket holders said that Family Section pricing was extremely important to them

✳️ 70% of Famous Five Lower Season Ticket holders stated that sitting within a designated Family Section was either extremely important or important to them

The Club is now working behind-the-scenes to finalise how safe standing will be introduced to the Famous Five Lower Tier.
A new designated family area will also be introduced inside Easter Road with prices that match the 2023/24 Famous Five Lower family pricing. We have more stadium change announcements to roll out soon.

The Club understands that the topic of change can be difficult and appreciates all supporters' dedication to Hibernian FC. Our goal is to make sure that any transitions are carried out as smoothly, as positively and as fairly for all.

If I can help any supporter on this, or anything else, just give me a shout.


"No Season Ticket Holder will be made to move from their current purchased seat if they so wish and should any current supporter (and family or community group) wish to move to a different area we’ll have various options for them."

So as existing FF Lower ST holders we will get first opportunity to renew our seats (standing positions) in the what will become the standing section? I hope so, remaining here is my preference.

Can we assume that the favourable family pricing structure will only be available in the new relocated family section? If so what will be ST pricing for adults & U18 be, if we stay in FF Lower, this will be vital to deciding where we go next season.

[hibee]

The fair way to deal with this would be for every st holder in the stadium to 'lose' their seat and everyone needs a new seat for next season.

There is nothing fair about that and they would lose plenty of fans if they tried it.

[marinello59]

Great news.
I wouldn't be getting hung up on the Block 7 thing, of course they will be in there but if it wasn't them it would be another group of younger fans wanting to stand out a bit. As long as it's noisy in there. :thumbsup:

[Green Man]

"No Season Ticket Holder will be made to move from their current purchased seat if they so wish and should any current supporter (and family or community group) wish to move to a different area we’ll have various options for them."

So as existing FF Lower ST holders we will get first opportunity to renew our seats (standing positions) in the what will become the standing section? I hope so, remaining here is my preference.

Can we assume that the favourable family pricing structure will only be available in the new relocated family section? If so what will be ST pricing for adults & U18 be, if we stay in FF Lower, this will be vital to deciding where we go next season.

I’m in the same boat. I like our current position behind the goals and my son loves the ultras so he’s delighted at the thought of being next to them. But pricing is important, if there’s a big jump in price because it’s not the family section any more then I’ll need to reconsider where we go (and if it’s worth getting a ST).

[Mark05]

Means it's easier to walk out when we are losing. I'm all for it. :greengrin

Maybe they will have special bars that lock you in,so you can't escape so it looks better on the telly 😂

[xbar81]

Maybe they will have special bars that lock you in,so you can't escape so it looks better on the telly 😂

ive been locked in many bars in my life. :na na:

[mcohibs]

The fair way to deal with this would be for every st holder in the stadium to 'lose' their seat and everyone needs a new seat for next season.

Eh [emoji23][emoji23]

[Ardenttwo]

Yup. Now if only we can get it right on the pitch!


If things don’t improve on the park there will be nobody sitting or standing within the stadium.

[lyonhibs]

No mention of Block 7.

Apart from the bit where it says Block 7 of course.

[Trinity Hibee]

Great to see them doing this. Important that we do all we can to improve the atmosphere. The FFL has been a family section for a very long time but often sits half empty nowadays so understand why they’ve done this. Things change over time so this is just another to adapt to. Hopefully those currently sat there aren’t impacted price wise for a new ST.

Is it not worth looking at some kind of family package for ST’s rather than designating particular areas of the stadium?

[Moulin Yarns]

Apart from the bit where it says Block 7 of course.

Only if you expand the screenshot, which I didn't to begin with.

[Chipper1875]

Apart from the bit where it says Block 7 of course.

Cool Where can l read that ?

[WhileTheChief..]

Good move by the club.

Hope there's a decent take up for it, will look just as crap as it does just now if it's half empty.

On the family section / pricing.... do we need a dedicated family area these days?

I imagine the club will offer those impacted the same deal but sitting elsewhere, just not as one big group.

There's always the south upper - that could be used to grow the family section if demand is there? If it's super popular, we can then justify reducing the allocation for away fans.

[lyonhibs]

Timing of the announcement has a hint of "burying bad news" about it after the insipid surrender to the ****, but good news nonetheless

[Scouse Hibee]

The fair way to deal with this would be for every st holder in the stadium to 'lose' their seat and everyone needs a new seat for next season.

No chance.

[cabbageandribs1875]

The fair way to deal with this would be for every st holder in the stadium to 'lose' their seat and everyone needs a new seat for next season.

as a non-ST holder i agree, auction off ST holder seats to the highest bidders i say, then lower the walk-up prices with the profits made from the auctions :)

[j'adorehibs]

so if everyone in the FFL thats a season ticket holder retains their seat , which i assume is only block 18 at this point, im not sure where everyone else will be allocated , block 7 will be even more dispersed and surely cant be forcing people out of allocated seats at home games ?

as for empty seats in FFL , a good few were bought by groups with no kids so that they could stay in the FFL when it became a family section

will be interesting to see how many people do actually want to move from east and west who arent block 7 .....im not convinced it'll be that many folk...but lets see.

we willl be retaining our seats/standing area as long as no flags during match play .

[Hibs90]

About time.

It would be a shame if everyone got in and purchased the front row ST's before the block 7 lot :greengrin

[Glory Lurker]

People have been requesting safe standing since well before most of B7 were likely born and the safe standing section will exist long after B7 disband.

Yes, but it won't do anything for atmosphere in the short term if it's just tiktok songs and drowning out trad songs started elsewhere.

[Hibs90]

Yes, but it won't do anything for atmosphere in the short term if it's just tiktok songs and drowning out trad songs started elsewhere.

There was a small group at Forfar who had a go of going through the proper Hibs songs, B7 decided not to join in and just stand in silence.

Says it all really.

[Glory Lurker]

There was a small group at Forfar who had a go of going through the proper Hibs songs, B7 decided not to join in and just stand in silence.

Says it all really.

Yep. A hail hail started at the far end of the terracing behind the goal, and the drum started up to nip it in the bud.

[Hibbyradge]

ive been locked in many bars in my life. :na na:

I've been locked out of a few. :boo hoo:

[Broxburn Greens]

I assume that the family section will now either be the wings of the East or Section 25 in FFU.

So basically shove loyal season ticket holders into some of the worst seats in the stadium? Great idea.


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[Ozyhibby]

So basically shove loyal season ticket holders into some of the worst seats in the stadium? Great idea.


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I’ve always thought the FF lower was the worst seats in the stadium? [emoji23]


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[Broxburn Greens]

Even if the family section doesn't move to the East there will be spaces. This isn't going increase our crowd by a couple of thousand. Currently, Block 7 are in the East. They will want to move to the safe standing in the FFL. No doubt others will want to move from the East to the FFL. So either those in the current family section move to the East and don't show up much as they do now or they move elsewhere not seen on the cameras. Either way, there will be spaces in the East.


Don’t show up much? Missed one home game in 3 years and that was 4 days after an operation?

The bile spouted towards ST holders in the FFL is ridiculous at times. Parents who were once the young fans bringing along the next generation of Hibs fans and you get comments like this? Ridiculous.

I’m all in favour of the safe standing but not at the expense of those in the family section getting shafted and dumped into some of the worst seats in the stadium.

Can’t wait to hear where the new family section is or how those with kids will be able to choose their seats. FWIW my 3 ST currently cost a shade over £600 so whilst well priced not exactly an inconsiderable sum to part with.


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[Broxburn Greens]

I’m happy to help at any moment on this. Just drop me a message.

It has been noted throughout the factfinding process and during the consultation meetings, no Season Ticket Holder will be made to move from their current purchased seat if they so wish and should any current supporter (and family or community group) wish to move to a different area we’ll have various options for them. The Club must ensure that a duty of care is provided to those impacted and we’ll be contacting those people direct to offer a personal service on what they want to do next.

In September last year, we communicated with all supporters via direct email and released an article on our website (Fan Consultation: Singing Section - https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/fan-consultation-singing-section) and a thread on here about holding an in-person meeting at Easter Road on the 10th of October and an online meeting the following night on the 11th regarding matchday experience, singing and standing sections. Running concurrently at this time, we had a survey open to all for gathering supporter opinions on the singing section and atmosphere at Easter Road.

Key highlights from the survey is noted in the article we released today here (Safe Standing To Be Introduced At Easter Road - https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/safe-standing-to-be-introduced-at-easter-road)

[emoji3585] More than 1,700 Season Ticket holders completed the survey

[emoji3585] 83% of supporters are in favour of safe standing being introduced to the Famous Five Lower

[emoji3585] 82% of supporters believe the introduction of a safe standing section would improve the atmosphere at Easter
Road

[emoji3585] If safe standing was introduced to the Famous Five Lower, 51% of current Season Ticket holders within this section would either remain in the section or be interested in more information

[emoji3585] 65% of current Famous Five Lower Season Ticket holders said that Family Section pricing was extremely important to them

[emoji3585] 70% of Famous Five Lower Season Ticket holders stated that sitting within a designated Family Section was either extremely important or important to them

The Club is now working behind-the-scenes to finalise how safe standing will be introduced to the Famous Five Lower Tier.
A new designated family area will also be introduced inside Easter Road with prices that match the 2023/24 Famous Five Lower family pricing. We have more stadium change announcements to roll out soon.

The Club understands that the topic of change can be difficult and appreciates all supporters' dedication to Hibernian FC. Our goal is to make sure that any transitions are carried out as smoothly, as positively and as fairly for all.

If I can help any supporter on this, or anything else, just give me a shout.

Where’s the family section moving to is the first question? Why hadn’t this been announced along with the safe standing announcement?


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[GreenNWhiteArmy]

This will give us some entertainment over the summer 🍿

[Broxburn Greens]

I’ve always thought the FF lower was the worst seats in the stadium? [emoji23]


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[emoji23][emoji23] fair dues but if you look at my profile pic that’s the view from my seat. I like it. Been in the FFL since 2015 and moved up there about 3/4 years ago. Will need to move as my daughter won’t be able to see over the top of everyone. That’s fine but I would like to know where and how the club ensure we get decent seats together.

Probably won’t though as it won’t concern them as we’re not in Block7.


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[LaMotta]

Families in the FF lower have had a good run at access to some of the best seats in the stadium for very nice prices.

They should be thankful for having had that opportunity for so long. Can still stay there if they like but prices will go up which seems fair.

Or if they want cheaper family seats then absolutely feel free to relocate. No idea what the problem is.

I still pine for my centre stand seat in the old wooden main next to the press box. Best seat Ive ever had and I was gutted to have to move but it was obviously for the benefit of the club to progress with the times.

[Trinity Hibee]

Where’s the family section moving to is the first question? Why hadn’t this been announced along with the safe standing announcement?


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Maybe there won’t be a designated family section within the stadium anymore and instead offer a ST package for those buying for themselves and however many kids? Don’t understand the need for blocking off a section of the ground nowadays unless it’s Hibs Kids games. Would give people the freedom to sit in whatever stand they like

[hibsbollah]

So basically shove loyal season ticket holders into some of the worst seats in the stadium? Great idea.


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Its a modern stadium. The vast majority of the seats will have perfectly decent views. I must have sat in every corner over the years. The only seats i can think of that have obscured or poor views are directly at the bottom of some of the stairways where the metal barriers sometimes restricts view. Being perched near the top of the East isnt for everyone, if you dont like heights or arent the fittest, but you can choose accordingly. As has been mentioned the FF lower view is the worst in the stadium so what you’re saying doesn’t really stack up.

[GreenCastle]

Glad to hear this is finally happening.

Has it been confirmed if it's the full lower tier? Hopefully so as would be a brilliant for the bigger games.

Well over due and hopefully if we get the team on the pitch right we may finally get some atmosphere back to the stadium.

[Glory Lurker]

Maybe there won’t be a designated family section within the stadium anymore and instead offer a ST package for those buying for themselves and however many kids? Don’t understand the need for blocking off a section of the ground nowadays unless it’s Hibs Kids games. Would give people the freedom to sit in whatever stand they like

Announcement says there will be, but take it they've not worked out where it will be yet.

[Broxburn Greens]

Maybe there won’t be a designated family section within the stadium anymore and instead offer a ST package for those buying for themselves and however many kids? Don’t understand the need for blocking off a section of the ground nowadays unless it’s Hibs Kids games. Would give people the freedom to sit in whatever stand they like

That would be my preferred option but you’d get folk trying to abuse like you did in the FFL until they introduced the ‘traffic lights’ behind the turnstiles… Not that I’m sure the stewards pay over much attention anyway [emoji23]


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[Moulin Yarns]

I’ve always thought the FF lower was the worst seats in the stadium? [emoji23]


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Naw, the comfy looking ones in the home dugout have to be the worst seats, at least one of them is out their seat pacing around the touchline and others regularly get up and go for a wee jog down to the end of pitch. Not even considered the abuse they often get!! 😉

[LaMotta]

Its a modern stadium. The vast majority of the seats will have perfectly decent views. I must have sat in every corner over the years. The only seats i can think of that have obscured or poor views are directly at the bottom of some of the stairways where the metal barriers sometimes restricts view. Being perched near the top of the East isnt for everyone, if you dont like heights or arent the fittest, but you can choose accordingly. As has been mentioned the FF lower view is the worst in the stadium so what you’re saying doesn’t really stack up.

Everyone is different of course but I would strongly dispute that FF lower are worst seats in the stadium. If you are in the middle sections behind the goals then they are some of the best IMO.

[Broxburn Greens]

Its a modern stadium. The vast majority of the seats will have perfectly decent views. I must have sat in every corner over the years. The only seats i can think of that have obscured or poor views are directly at the bottom of some of the stairways where the metal barriers sometimes restricts view. Being perched near the top of the East isnt for everyone, if you dont like heights or arent the fittest, but you can choose accordingly. As has been mentioned the FF lower view is the worst in the stadium so what you’re saying doesn’t really stack up.

That’s subjective though so to say what I’m saying doesn’t stack up isn’t really fairI believe my view from row P is pretty good, accept you can’t always tell exactly what’s happened at the other end but at our end the view of the North goal is superb. Probably why I prefer the second half!

Agree that seats in the lower rows can be poor, used to sit in row C in the FFL and the views dreadful.


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[GreenCastle]

Everyone is different of course but I would strongly dispute that FF lower are worst seats in the stadium. If you are in the middle sections behind the goals then they are some of the best IMO.

The East Stand has the best leg room - think Upper West / North too.

The lower West and FF less leg room.

The FF seats are also quite worn so probably due an upgrade. The views are ok but how anyone can say the view is better than sitting central in the West upper or central in East is wrong (or have never sat there).

The worst part of the East stand is getting out at the end - just takes forever.

[LaMotta]

The East Stand has the best leg room - think Upper West / North too.

The lower West and FF less leg room.

The FF seats are also quite worn so probably due an upgrade. The views are ok but how anyone can say the view is better than sitting central in the West upper or central in East is wrong (or have never sat there).

The worst part of the East stand is getting out at the end - just takes forever.

I dont think anyone is saying that. Every stand has its share of better seats and less good viewing areas though.

Being directly behind the goals from the middle up of the FF lower are far better seats than being in any of the bottom corners of the East ot the West for example. Particularly if Hibs are shooting down the slope. Def some of the best seats in ER.

[hibee]

The East Stand has the best leg room - think Upper West / North too.

The lower West and FF less leg room.

The FF seats are also quite worn so probably due an upgrade. The views are ok but how anyone can say the view is better than sitting central in the West upper or central in East is wrong (or have never sat there).

The worst part of the East stand is getting out at the end - just takes forever.

The upper west has much less legroom than the FF upper, I moved over to try it at the European games and it was awful.

[Broxburn Greens]

I dont think anyone is saying that. Every stand has its share of better seats and less good viewing areas though.

Being directly behind the goals from the middle up of the FF lower are far better seats than being in any of the bottom corners of the East ot the West for example. Particularly if Hibs are shooting down the slope. Def some of the best seats in ER.

Agree 100%


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[overdrive]

Its a modern stadium. The vast majority of the seats will have perfectly decent views. I must have sat in every corner over the years. The only seats i can think of that have obscured or poor views are directly at the bottom of some of the stairways where the metal barriers sometimes restricts view. Being perched near the top of the East isnt for everyone, if you dont like heights or arent the fittest, but you can choose accordingly. As has been mentioned the FF lower view is the worst in the stadium so what you’re saying doesn’t really stack up.

I'm in the FF Upper in section 25. When they tried to force us out when the singing section moved in there Hibs offered us to move seat for the odd game at the end of the season to try out the "best available seats" they could offer us. We tried the so-called best two different pairs of seats they could offer us in the West. Both had areas of the pitch you couldn't see. The leg room was really bad too. We refused to move.

[GreenCastle]

I dont think anyone is saying that. Every stand has its share of better seats and less good viewing areas though.

Being directly behind the goals from the middle up of the FF lower are far better seats than being in any of the bottom corners of the East ot the West for example. Particularly if Hibs are shooting down the slope. Def some of the best seats in ER.

Makes sense :thumbsup:

Used to sit behind the goals in FF and good views.

They only recently did up the walls with Hibs kids stuff too.

[hibsbollah]

I'm in the FF Upper in section 25. When they tried to force us out when the singing section moved in there Hibs offered us to move seat for the odd game at the end of the season to try out the "best available seats" they could offer us. We tried the so-called best two different pairs of seats they could offer us in the West. Both had areas of the pitch you couldn't see. The leg room was really bad too. We refused to move.

So what’re you planning to do now? Refuse to move?

[LaMotta]

Agree 100%


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Makes sense :thumbsup:

Used to sit behind the goals in FF and good views.

They only recently did up the walls with Hibs kids stuff too.

Im not a fan of upper tier seats - feels to far away from the action for me but appreciate some folk love the perspective from up there.

Sitting down low really near the front does make it harder to see things unfold on the pitch, but on the flip side its quite good being so close to the players. Seats behind the dug out for example are great IMO as its interesting watching coaching staffs from both sides and the 4th official.

[overdrive]

Don’t show up much? Missed one home game in 3 years and that was 4 days after an operation?

The bile spouted towards ST holders in the FFL is ridiculous at times. Parents who were once the young fans bringing along the next generation of Hibs fans and you get comments like this? Ridiculous.

I’m all in favour of the safe standing but not at the expense of those in the family section getting shafted and dumped into some of the worst seats in the stadium.

Can’t wait to hear where the new family section is or how those with kids will be able to choose their seats. FWIW my 3 ST currently cost a shade over £600 so whilst well priced not exactly an inconsiderable sum to part with.


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That's not the point I was making. I've been in the same situation as you as I'm in the FF Upper in section 25 and Hibs tried to force us out of our seats when the singing section moved there, even though we were happy to stay there with the Singing Section.

My point was in relation to the person who seemed to be suggesting the gaps that appear in the FFL at the moment wouldn't be there in the East once the FFL is converted. There are absolutely gaps in the FFL at the moment. It is more apparent in midweek games. It is down to kids not going all the time, particularly night games. It was also historically because folk bought the really cheap kids STs so they could upgrade to an adult ticket to be guaranteed a seat at the big games and Hampden trips, though I think the Club nipped that in the bud. It is a fact that a number of fans "don't show up" - and it is for very valid reasons they "don't show up". Opening a safe standing area behind the goals will probably rectify the "problem" that many fans see of the FFL looking empty on TV. That "problem" will just get shifted to the East as that will more than likely be where most people wanting to go to the standing area will move from and the "problem" probably magnified as that's the stand on TV most. That was my point. FWIW, I don't see it as a "problem". It is just a fact we don't fill the stadium other than derbies. We are just shifting round where there looks like there are empty seats on TV. The only way we'd stop that is if the West Stand was closed/partially closed and everyone forced into the other three stands as that only really gets viewed on telly when a sub is made.

I'm against loyal ST holders getting moved against their will. They seem to be managing it a bit better this time going by Power's post.

[overdrive]

So what’re you planning to do now? Refuse to move?

Nothing at the moment as we are unaffected - unless they try to turf us out to put the family section there. Going by KP's post they aren't going to force anyone out this time. Last time we got letters from LD pretty much saying "you must move" until a few of us kicked up a fuss. Even after that it was "are you sure you don't want to move?"

[Montford]

Brilliant news
At last a bit of foresight from the club
Thank god LD chose pastures new or this would never have happened.
The atmosphere will improve tremendously
This will encourage more people to attend
The team will benefit from the noise generated behind the Home goal. An end to attack..

[Posh Swanny]

That's not the point I was making. I've been in the same situation as you as I'm in the FF Upper in section 25 and Hibs tried to force us out of our seats when the singing section moved there, even though we were happy to stay there with the Singing Section.

My point was in relation to the person who seemed to be suggesting the gaps that appear in the FFL at the moment wouldn't be there in the East once the FFL is converted. There are absolutely gaps in the FFL at the moment. It is more apparent in midweek games. It is down to kids not going all the time, particularly night games. It was also historically because folk bought the really cheap kids STs so they could upgrade to an adult ticket to be guaranteed a seat at the big games and Hampden trips, though I think the Club nipped that in the bud. It is a fact that a number of fans "don't show up" - and it is for very valid reasons they "don't show up". Opening a safe standing area behind the goals will probably rectify the "problem" that many fans see of the FFL looking empty on TV. That "problem" will just get shifted to the East as that will more than likely be where most people wanting to go to the standing area will move from and the "problem" probably magnified as that's the stand on TV most. That was my point. FWIW, I don't see it as a "problem". It is just a fact we don't fill the stadium other than derbies. We are just shifting round where there looks like there are empty seats on TV. The only way we'd stop that is if the West Stand was closed/partially closed and everyone forced into the other three stands as that only really gets viewed on telly when a sub is made.

I'm against loyal ST holders getting moved against their will. They seem to be managing it a bit better this time going by Power's post.

You only ever really see the first 5 or 6 rows of the East on TV though. And there are already plenty of gaps in there anyway. We could do what Hearts do and make those front rows cheaper.

And when it comes to moving people against there will - unfortunately, where stadium re-development is concerned, this has always happened and always will. You never know though - Kieran suggested more stadium changes to come, so you may be able to get a seat in the new North-East corner! :greengrin

[DIXIHIBS]

Have i got this wrong. Reading on here it sounds people get an allocated "seat" where they can stand. I thought the whole point of a safe standing area was unallocated seating to allow people to stand where they want? Surely this will end up with fans arguing because someone is standing in their "seat"...

[hibee-boys]

I don’t understand what the concern is around people seeing empty seats while they sit in their armchairs supporting, sorry I mean, watching Hibs. I’m hoping this move will enhance the overall atmosphere at ER Andy lift the players on the pitch. I couldn’t give 2 hoots about a few more empty seats in the East or what people tuning in from home.

[marinello59]

Have i got this wrong. Reading on here it sounds people get an allocated "seat" where they can stand. I thought the whole point of a safe standing area was unallocated seating to allow people to stand where they want? Surely this will end up with fans arguing because someone is standing in their "seat"...

The emphasis is on safe here. The new way is to allocate a space, we aren't going back to the old style terracing free for all.

[Posh Swanny]

Have i got this wrong. Reading on here it sounds people get an allocated "seat" where they can stand. I thought the whole point of a safe standing area was unallocated seating to allow people to stand where they want? Surely this will end up with fans arguing because someone is standing in their "seat"...

There is a 'seat' with a numebr on it - it'll be up to Hibs if they want to make certain sections unreserved. Though I think this has repercussions on overall capacity.

[blackpoolhibs]

Families in the FF lower have had a good run at access to some of the best seats in the stadium for very nice prices.

They should be thankful for having had that opportunity for so long. Can still stay there if they like but prices will go up which seems fair.

Or if they want cheaper family seats then absolutely feel free to relocate. No idea what the problem is.

I still pine for my centre stand seat in the old wooden main next to the press box. Best seat Ive ever had and I was gutted to have to move but it was obviously for the benefit of the club to progress with the times.

Spot on, i loved standing behind that goal when the club decided to stick bench seating in it and charge more, completely obliterating the atmosphere in one crazy swoop.

Things change, sometimes good sometimes bad, there is no bad seats in the stadium these days, just some that are better than others, and the way things are going now, these better seats cost more.

Thems the breaks.

[LaMotta]

I don’t understand what the concern is around people seeing empty seats while they sit in their armchairs supporting, sorry I mean, watching Hibs. I’m hoping this move will enhance the overall atmosphere at ER Andy lift the players on the pitch. I couldn’t give 2 hoots about a few more empty seats in the East or what people tuning in from home.

I've read a few times that we shouldnt care if there are empty seats for tv viewers to see. I think that is a pretty short sighted view though. The image of the club is vital and empty seats tarnishes that image.

We are trying to sell the place as as a good place to come for future players, future sponsors and investors, and future fans. Visible empty seats doesnt help that at all.

On the flip side tv and social media clips of a full Easter Road with Sunshine on Leith blaring out has enhanced the club's reputation massively throughout the UK and further afield.

One thing I will say is that due to our seats being pretty bright green (worsened by sunlight over the years) they stand out pretty badly when empty. This might seem unimportant but genuinely If we replace seats again we should be going for a very dark green seat to mitigate that.

[Helensburghhibs]

I've read a few times that we shouldnt care if there are empty seats for tv viewers to see. I think that is a pretty short sighted view though. The image of the club is vital and empty seats tarnishes that image.

We are trying to sell the place as as a good place to come for future players, future sponsors and investors, and future fans. Visible empty seats doesnt help that at all.

On the flip side tv and social media clips of a full Easter Road with Sunshine on Leith blaring out has enhanced the club's reputation massively throughout the UK and further afield.

One thing I will say is that due to our seats being pretty bright green (worsened by sunlight over the years) they stand out pretty badly when empty. This might seem unimportant but genuinely If we replace seats again we should be going for a very dark green seat to mitigate that.

Visited the Amsterdam arena years ago. They had random multicoloured seats. Unsure if it's still the same but made it look full on TV even if it was empty.... We should use different shades of green, white and purple seats 😊

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Everyone is different of course but I would strongly dispute that FF lower are worst seats in the stadium. If you are in the middle sections behind the goals then they are some of the best IMO.

Agree, I been in section 17 for years and when we score and the players run to the fans it's Barry.

[wookie70]

Worth a try as long as it doesn't cost too much. I suspect it will make no difference to the atmosphere or the overall attendance. the FFL may actually end up with more gaps. The good news is that stupid drum will me miles away from our seats

[H18 SFR]

Worth a try as long as it doesn't cost too much. I suspect it will make no difference to the atmosphere or the overall attendance. the FFL may actually end up with more gaps. The good news is that stupid drum will me miles away from our seats

The biggest barrier to filling it will be the presence of Block 7 there.

[Gmack7]

Will this increase the capacity? Apologies if already asked

[hibee]

The good news is that stupid drum will me miles away from our seats

I’ve seen this mentioned a few times today and as a long standing ST holder in the FF upper I think you should keep the drum, you don’t have to use it but you should definitely keep it!

[PH91]

There is nothing fair about that and they would lose plenty of fans if they tried it.

What's fair about kicking out 10-15% of the fans from their seat, some of whom will have sat there for a decade or more, and moving them into the dregs of the stadium.

I'm all for the safe standing section but for me, nobody moves or everybody does.

[Jones28]

Will this increase the capacity? Apologies if already asked

It won’t, it’s a straight swap. Stadiums constructed with safe standing in mind have 2 steps on every row so can accommodate more people per “seat”, not sure if it’s double or 1.5 people for every seat.

[hibee]

What's fair about kicking out 10-15% of the fans from their seat, some of whom will have sat there for a decade or more, and moving them into the dregs of the stadium.

I'm all for the safe standing section but for me, nobody moves or everybody does.

That’s not what I meant, I’m completely against anyone being forced from their seats.

[Broxburn Greens]

That's not the point I was making. I've been in the same situation as you as I'm in the FF Upper in section 25 and Hibs tried to force us out of our seats when the singing section moved there, even though we were happy to stay there with the Singing Section.

My point was in relation to the person who seemed to be suggesting the gaps that appear in the FFL at the moment wouldn't be there in the East once the FFL is converted. There are absolutely gaps in the FFL at the moment. It is more apparent in midweek games. It is down to kids not going all the time, particularly night games. It was also historically because folk bought the really cheap kids STs so they could upgrade to an adult ticket to be guaranteed a seat at the big games and Hampden trips, though I think the Club nipped that in the bud. It is a fact that a number of fans "don't show up" - and it is for very valid reasons they "don't show up". Opening a safe standing area behind the goals will probably rectify the "problem" that many fans see of the FFL looking empty on TV. That "problem" will just get shifted to the East as that will more than likely be where most people wanting to go to the standing area will move from and the "problem" probably magnified as that's the stand on TV most. That was my point. FWIW, I don't see it as a "problem". It is just a fact we don't fill the stadium other than derbies. We are just shifting round where there looks like there are empty seats on TV. The only way we'd stop that is if the West Stand was closed/partially closed and everyone forced into the other three stands as that only really gets viewed on telly when a sub is made.

I'm against loyal ST holders getting moved against their will. They seem to be managing it a bit better this time going by Power's post.

Ok, fair dues. It’s an emotive subject. Your point about ST being forced to move I agree with entirely. The club will say they aren’t but the reality is as in my own personal situation is remaining in our current seats is not practical as my youngest won’t be able to see.

All for more atmosphere and allowing people to stand but the club need to take proper cognisance of those they are inconveniencing or simply forcing out their seats.

For the record and I hope I’m wrong I don’t think the club will do anything substantial to aid those being turfed out rather just shrug their shoulders and politely say TS.


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[hibsbollah]

What's fair about kicking out 10-15% of the fans from their seat, some of whom will have sat there for a decade or more, and moving them into the dregs of the stadium.

I'm all for the safe standing section but for me, nobody moves or everybody does.

There we go, the ‘dregs of the stadium’ :faf: where is this mythical place? The bogs? Absolute fantasy.

[Since90+2]

Visited the Amsterdam arena years ago. They had random multicoloured seats. Unsure if it's still the same but made it look full on TV even if it was empty.... We should use different shades of green, white and purple seats 😊

Brentford have the same I think.

[PH91]

There we go, the ‘dregs of the stadium’ :faf: where is this mythical place? The bogs? Absolute fantasy.

Some of the seats at the ends of the stands are crap imo. Don't you agree? And if you don't, what would be your problem with everybody moving?

[Since90+2]

Great news. The club can't stand still whilst the dynamics of football stadiums change and how atmospheres are created evolves.

Let's be honest the atmosphere at ER is absolutely pish. This can only be a good thing in than regard.

[Power]

"No Season Ticket Holder will be made to move from their current purchased seat if they so wish and should any current supporter (and family or community group) wish to move to a different area we’ll have various options for them."

So as existing FF Lower ST holders we will get first opportunity to renew our seats (standing positions) in the what will become the standing section? I hope so, remaining here is my preference.

Can we assume that the favourable family pricing structure will only be available in the new relocated family section? If so what will be ST pricing for adults & U18 be, if we stay in FF Lower, this will be vital to deciding where we go next season.

That is right ✅

We will also have a dedicated window for impacted STH (that want to change seats) before opening seat moves to the wider support.


Where’s the family section moving to is the first question? Why hadn’t this been announced along with the safe standing announcement?


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Fair shout. We have two or three options. Team is working out the full change plan (we’re doing more to the stadium in addition to this) to release more information very soon to allow supporters to make a decision.

[hibsbollah]

Some of the seats at the ends of the stands are crap imo. Don't you agree? And if you don't, what would be your problem with everybody moving?

You dont have to move there if you dont want to. As Power has pointed out. And frankly, i doubt the seats or the views there, are that ‘crap’, and even if the leg room or whatever was a bit different , you’d probably just get used to it. Things change.

[Since90+2]

You dont have to move there if you dont want to. As Power has pointed out. And frankly, i doubt the seats or the views there, are that ‘crap’, and even if the leg room or whatever was a bit different , you’d probably just get used to it. Things change.

I get the annoyance of some folk about moving, but to be harsh no seat is ever sold for life and it's clear as day something needs to change for the better of the atmosphere.

The club can't not act when it's potentially, and highly likely, that the change will make a positive difference to the atmosphere within the stadium.

[hibsbollah]

I get the annoyance of some folk about moving, but to be harsh no seat is ever sold for life and it's clear as day something needs to change for the better of the atmosphere.

The club can't not act when it's potentially, and highly likely, that the change will make a positive difference to the atmosphere within the stadium.

:agree:

[PH91]

You dont have to move there if you dont want to. As Power has pointed out. And frankly, i doubt the seats or the views there, are that ‘crap’, and even if the leg room or whatever was a bit different , you’d probably just get used to it. Things change.

You don't have to move but if you don't you might end up with a group in front of you who stand and wave flags for 90 mins.

I totally agree things change and it is time to reset the stadium. If you really believe what you've said above then surely you would have no problem with nobody having their seats auto renewed.

[hibsbollah]

You don't have to move but if you don't you might end up with a group in front of you who stand and wave flags for 90 mins.

I totally agree things change and it is time to reset the stadium. If you really believe what you've said above then surely you would have no problem with nobody having their seats auto renewed.

I wouldn’t particularly have a problem with that, no. But we’ve been through a lengthy consultation process where all the options have been discussed. I feel like safe standing in the FF has been talked about for ten years or so now.

[brianmc]

You don't have to move but if you don't you might end up with a group in front of you who stand and wave flags for 90 mins.

I totally agree things change and it is time to reset the stadium. If you really believe what you've said above then surely you would have no problem with nobody having their seats auto renewed.

I'm still gutted I can't stand half way up the east terracing under the TV gantry at the half way line.

But I got over it.

You can do the same too if you try.

[GreenCastle]

What's fair about kicking out 10-15% of the fans from their seat, some of whom will have sat there for a decade or more, and moving them into the dregs of the stadium.

I'm all for the safe standing section but for me, nobody moves or everybody does.

Hearts moved fans this season.
Aberdeen last season
Celtic few seasons ago
Rangers in summer
Hibs in summer

More common than you think and the good news is there are seats in the stadium which offer good views available.

As someone else said no bad seats in the stadium but understandable some folk get attached to a certain area with family and friends.

[JohnM1875]

Absolutely nothing against the safe standing and to be honest the whole Ultras thing in general. Love a good tifo and I know others hate it, but a good flare display looks class in my opinion.

The one gripe I have about it compared to what you see in the rest of Europe is that all our stuff seems to be the same as every other team. Same songs different words etc. Just feels a bit forced. To be fair, I can't speak German or French so maybe that's the same for their songs I just can't understand.

Do think this will absolutely add to the atmosphere at games. Good move from the club.

[Trinity Hibee]

Absolutely nothing against the safe standing and to be honest the whole Ultras thing in general. Love a good tifo and I know others hate it, but a good flare display looks class in my opinion.

The one gripe I have about it compared to what you see in the rest of Europe is that all our stuff seems to be the same as every other team. Same songs different words etc. Just feels a bit forced. To be fair, I can't speak German or French so maybe that's the same for their songs I just can't understand.

Do think this will absolutely add to the atmosphere at games. Good move from the club.

Don’t think anyone over the age of 21 knows these generic songs nowadays

[MKHIBEE]

The biggest barrier to filling it will be the presence of Block 7 there.


The biggest barrier will be what’s happening on the pitch. Or not.

[Keith_M]

Just out of interest, is there such a thing as unsafe standing?


:dunno:

[Trinity Hibee]

Just out of interest, is there such a thing as unsafe standing?


:dunno:

The old terracing style where there was no structure. Edinburgh rugby do safe standing. It’s a square marked on the ground and works brilliantly

[Bridge hibs]

Just out of interest, is there such a thing as unsafe standing?


:dunno:Have you ever tried standing on one leg whilst pissed ?

[LaMotta]

Visited the Amsterdam arena years ago. They had random multicoloured seats. Unsure if it's still the same but made it look full on TV even if it was empty.... We should use different shades of green, white and purple seats 😊

Ah yeah, I'm sure Brentford did the same thing for the same reasons.

[Gmack7]

Just out of interest, is there such a thing as unsafe standing?


:dunno:

Tynecastle, you know how Eddie the Eagle felt

[LaMotta]

Agree, I been in section 17 for years and when we score and the players run to the fans it's Barry.

Hopefully this move will help that become more common!

[LaMotta]

What's fair about kicking out 10-15% of the fans from their seat, some of whom will have sat there for a decade or more, and moving them into the dregs of the stadium.

I'm all for the safe standing section but for me, nobody moves or everybody does.

You cant really think that Hibs should have to have undertake such a huge admin task as resetting all 11000 or whatever season ticket seats and then having a mad online scramble for that many people starting from scratch, which of course would result in utter chaos?

FF lower section hasnt been fully utilised as a section for many years now. I understand people currently sitting there now being a bit pissed off ( so would I If I'd been getting majorly discounted prices on my seats in an area I like).

If you sit there, you now have the choice to stay in that area you like but pay what others do in other stands, or you will get first dibs on available seats before new season ticket holders. And it looks like you can still get discounted tickets but it will be somewhere else in the ground, which seems fair enough.

[Glory Lurker]

That is right ✅

We will also have a dedicated window for impacted STH (that want to change seats) before opening seat moves to the wider support.



Fair shout. We have two or three options. Team is working out the full change plan (we’re doing more to the stadium in addition to this) to release more information very soon to allow supporters to make a decision.

So, the club doesn't know where the replacement family section that they trail in today's announcement is actually going to be?

As for the dedicated window, who counts as impacted STHs?

[04Sauzee]

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[jakedance]

I think this is a great move. Would be great if we see this section full and lively every week. The atmosphere hasn’t recovered from losing the old east. It will be interesting to see if it attracts a mix of fans with a reemergence of the more tradition songs, or whether it’s dominated by the ultra culture. I’m all for the young team but the whole ultra scene doesn’t seem very inclusive. If it ends up purely an ultra section that’s fine with me as long as they can fill it.

[Moulin Yarns]

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The end of block 7. 😉

[Onceinawhile]

The end of block 7. 😉

They've done a great job of inviting feedback by, eh... making sure no one can interact with their statement.

[Chipper1875]

They've done a great job of inviting feedback by, eh... making sure no one can interact with their statement.

Already they think it’s their singing section. Ben needs to rain them in

[hibee]

Already they think it’s their singing section. Ben needs to rain them in

Sounds like he encourages it so they’ve now claimed ownership of the whole section before it’s even built.

What if you don’t want to join the group but want to move to that area, will there be a members and non members section with rivalry like a home and away end?

[DIXIHIBS]

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North Bank sounds better...

[Smartie]

Just out of interest, is there such a thing as unsafe standing?


:dunno:

Rows and rows of bucket seats that you stand on and tumble over when you’re thrown around when Hibs score?

Not safe, but pretty great.

[Steve-O]

You cant really think that Hibs should have to have undertake such a huge admin task as resetting all 11000 or whatever season ticket seats and then having a mad online scramble for that many people starting from scratch, which of course would result in utter chaos?

FF lower section hasnt been fully utilised as a section for many years now. I understand people currently sitting there now being a bit pissed off ( so would I If I'd been getting majorly discounted prices on my seats in an area I like).

If you sit there, you now have the choice to stay in that area you like but pay what others do in other stands, or you will get first dibs on available seats before new season ticket holders. And it looks like you can still get discounted tickets but it will be somewhere else in the ground, which seems fair enough.

Correct. I can’t get my head around these people. If you have the cheapest seats in the stadium, that comes with some concessions, such as if the club decides those cheap seats should be elsewhere. If you don’t like it, you can buy a more expensive seat, or if you really want to cut off your nose to spite your face, you don’t go at all.

Fact is, there aren’t many bad seats in the stadium but there is one place that is suitable for safe standing.

[Steve-O]

Some of the seats at the ends of the stands are crap imo. Don't you agree? And if you don't, what would be your problem with everybody moving?

It’s pretty simple. Everyone doesn’t need to move so what’s the point.

[LaMotta]

Correct. I can’t get my head around these people. If you have the cheapest seats in the stadium, that comes with some concessions, such as if the club decides those cheap seats should be elsewhere. If you don’t like it, you can buy a more expensive if seat, or if you really want to cut off your nose to spite your face, you don’t go at all.

Fact is, there aren’t many bad seats in the stadium but there is one place that is suitable for safe standing.

:agree:

[Steve-O]

I'm still gutted I can't stand half way up the east terracing under the TV gantry at the half way line.

But I got over it.

You can do the same too if you try.

Indeed. I can’t believe Hibs forced people out their seats to build a new stand! I’d been in there for 17 generations!!

[Steve-O]

The emphasis is on safe here. The new way is to allocate a space, we aren't going back to the old style terracing free for all.

Surely the safe is more to do with the rails per row ensuring there can be no surge than prescribing where people stand? The latter will never work.

[Steve-O]

I've read a few times that we shouldnt care if there are empty seats for tv viewers to see. I think that is a pretty short sighted view though. The image of the club is vital and empty seats tarnishes that image.

We are trying to sell the place as as a good place to come for future players, future sponsors and investors, and future fans. Visible empty seats doesnt help that at all.

On the flip side tv and social media clips of a full Easter Road with Sunshine on Leith blaring out has enhanced the club's reputation massively throughout the UK and further afield.

One thing I will say is that due to our seats being pretty bright green (worsened by sunlight over the years) they stand out pretty badly when empty. This might seem unimportant but genuinely If we replace seats again we should be going for a very dark green seat to mitigate that.

Absolutely right. Some people just have no clue about branding and how important that can be to attract fans and sponsors alike.

Look at the likes of Union Berlin. There’s no reason we should really know some second division German team, but the atmosphere fans have created there has given them an identity, and a very positive one at that. More eyeballs on them in a positive light = more fans = more sponsors = more money…

[Steve-O]

For pretty much all games bar Hearts, Rangers, Celtic I can think of a perfect family section that will provide the exact same view these people have now…

How that works with those other games would have to be worked out of course.

Maybe there is an opportunity for even cheaper family STs in the South that exclude those games? I know some parents don’t want to take kids to those games.

[RIP]

Read every post with interest. Weighing up our options for next season already:-

1. Keep our seats in top row Section 44 and continue to stand and enjoy the fabulous side on view of the match or
2. Move to the new Section and stand and sing with North Side Hibernian or
3. Move to the new Section but start a separate Cooshed group singing all the traditional songs

Need to consider the Pros and Cons of each option 🤔

[Dashing Bob S]

Rip up all the seats

[HibsBragh]

Highly doubt they’d do this but if they wanted to expand standing capacity could they not just build dortmund style steps over the existing ones, don’t think that would be to tricky but could cost a fair bit more.


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[H18 SFR]

Read every post with interest. Weighing up our options for next season already:-

1. Keep our seats in top row Section 44 and continue to stand and enjoy the fabulous side on view of the match or
2. Move to the new Section and stand and sing with North Side Hibernian or
3. Move to the new Section but start a separate Cooshed group singing all the traditional songs

Need to consider the Pros and Cons of each option 🤔

Cooshed group idea sounds brilliant. I’d be up for that.

Right in the middle three sections.

[Moulin Yarns]

North Bank sounds better...

North end surely, a bit like Southend but without the pier.

[j'adorehibs]

That is right ✅

We will also have a dedicated window for impacted STH (that want to change seats) before opening seat moves to the wider support.



Fair shout. We have two or three options. Team is working out the full change plan (we’re doing more to the stadium in addition to this) to release more information very soon to allow supporters to make a decision.

Can i ask if there has been further discussions of flags during game play? I brought this up at the first consultation We sit in FFL section 18 near back and have a great view and will stay in standing if guaranteed that view of the game.....couldnt see a thing against that Gibraltan outfit due to flags so moved out of my seats for Luzern game. If Block 7 as i suspect get the front rows their flags will block views of those behind.

[One Day]

The only thing any of us received was a link to that survey from my group.

Same with my group of 8 season ticket holders. Speaking to other season tickets holders for FF lower on Wednesday night, ( as rumours were heard about impending announcement), they were the same, although 2 said that the had been invited to a meeting to discuss this but that the meeting had been cancelled and no more was heard.

[.Sean.]

There we go, the ‘dregs of the stadium’ :faf: where is this mythical place? The bogs? Absolute fantasy.
I agree. These supporters in the family section have also had some of the best seats in the house for their bairns for years on end for an absolute ****pence aswell so not like they’ve not been accommodated. Swings and roundabouts

[Since452]

What's fair about kicking out 10-15% of the fans from their seat, some of whom will have sat there for a decade or more, and moving them into the dregs of the stadium.

I'm all for the safe standing section but for me, nobody moves or everybody does.

It's not "their" seat if they haven't paid for it. This is for next season.

[Nicho87]

You reserve a seat for one season. No more no less.

Hibs tomorrow could announce that the famous five upper is for walk ups only.

There is nothing you can do about it.

Move with the times.

This time next year we will all be enjoying cup finals, battering hearts each derby whilst still playing 4-4-2 😀

[Glory Lurker]

It's not "their" seat if they haven't paid for it. This is for next season.


You reserve a seat for one season. No more no less.

Hibs tomorrow could announce that the famous five upper is for walk ups only.

There is nothing you can do about it.


If that's the case, and as the support overall is so keen to see safe standing happen, should every seat in the stadium be put up for grabs so everyone is treated the same?

[Fuzzywuzzy]

I'm sure I've got a Northside white label album somewhere

[LaMotta]

If that's the case, and as the support overall is so keen to see safe standing happen, should every seat in the stadium be put up for grabs so everyone is treated the same?

No as has been pointed out earlier that would be a major headache for the club having to re-sort out 11k season ticket holders.

Judging by Wednesday night there cant be much more than 500-1000 season ticket holders this will now affect, so obviously more manageable.

[McD]

No as has been pointed out earlier that would be a major headache for the club having to re-sort out 11k season ticket holders.

Judging by Wednesday night there cant be much more than 500-1000 season ticket holders this will now affect, so obviously more manageable.



There’ll be more than that, a school night evening kick off against rangers isn’t the measuring stick for how many season tickets are in the family section


The general point is correct that it’s easier to manage the movement of one section of the stadium than 3 whole stands worth

[HFC93]

Will this increase the capacity of Easter Road? Apologies if this has already been covered earlier in the thread. I'm too lazy to read through all of the posts.

[LaMotta]

There’ll be more than that, a school night evening kick off against rangers isn’t the measuring stick for how many season tickets are in the family section


The general point is correct that it’s easier to manage the movement of one section of the stadium than 3 whole stands worth

Yeah fair point I shouldn't have used Rangers game as a measure.

But still think it wont be much more than 1000 - based on this 3pm game v Killie the section looks maybe 60%-65% full. Given it holds less than 2k fans and if you also account for walk ups in there.

27641

[Greensunshine]

A step in the right direction for me. Hopefully it proves to be a success.

[CapitalGreen]

Yeah fair point I shouldn't have used Rangers game as a measure.

But still think it wont be much more than 1000 - based on this 3pm game v Killie the section looks maybe 60%-65% full. Given it holds less than 2k fans and if you also account for walk ups in there.

27641

That Killie game was also a Hibs Kids fixture which would have boosted numbers in there quite a bit.

[Scouse Hibee]

What's fair about kicking out 10-15% of the fans from their seat, some of whom will have sat there for a decade or more, and moving them into the dregs of the stadium.

I'm all for the safe standing section but for me, nobody moves or everybody does.


That's a ridiculous suggestion in my opinion. There will be some disruption to fans located in the affected area, absolutely no need to disrupt anyone in areas not affected.

[Scouse Hibee]

If that's the case, and as the support overall is so keen to see safe standing happen, should every seat in the stadium be put up for grabs so everyone is treated the same?


Why? I couldn't buy a reduced price ST for my laddie and I in the West Upper where I've always sat so I paid full price, that wasn't treating me the same as FF ST holders.

[LaMotta]

That Killie game was also a Hibs Kids fixture which would have boosted numbers in there quite a bit.

Another good point!

Looking back at games its hard to measure. St Mirren it was pretty full - but then that was first game of season so expect an uplift. Then v Livvy shortly after it was sparse as anything.

[Nicho87]

If that's the case, and as the support overall is so keen to see safe standing happen, should every seat in the stadium be put up for grabs so everyone is treated the same?

The existing st holders should get priority in the family section which I think was part of the survey.

If that wasnt deemed acceptable I’m not sure what more hibs could do.

[Moulin Yarns]

That Killie game was also a Hibs Kids fixture which would have boosted numbers in there quite a bit.

Are the Hibs kids tickets not for the south stand, in which case it explains how there are gaps??

[LaMotta]

Are the Hibs kids tickets not for the south stand, in which case it explains how there are gaps??

No not this season. Think they moved it because it was too close to away fans - there were issues last year at the Dundee United game with away fans lobbing juice and bovril etc into the Hibs kids section.

[headshrinker]

I have had a seat in row R in the Famous Five Lower along with family and friends virtually since it was opened. None of us are opposed to the “singing section” moving here, in fact I think is a good idea. We have discussed whether we should move or stay where we are, as our seats are in the section closest to the East Stand, we have not decided yet. However I was speaking to two other season ticket holders on Wednesday night who sit in the same row but towards the goal, who have been told the police who have been included in the consultation have asked that rows of seats be removed from the back of the stand. The people I was speaking to said it could be up to six rows. If that’s the case many people will not be able to keep their seats. I hope this rumour of removal of rows of seats is not true but would not be surprised if it was.

[Glory Lurker]

Folk missing the point of what I was saying. I was replying to two posts that said nobody has a seat for longer than a season. If you use that argument then it applies to every seat in the stadium. By all means bring in the safe standing and relocate STs, but if you address legitimate concerns of FFL ST holders with "it isn't your seat", then it opens the logical argument that nobody anywhere in the stadium would have a right to be peeved if they didn't get a shot to renew. That's all.

[LaMotta]

Folk missing the point of what I was saying. I was replying to two posts that said nobody has a seat for longer than a season. If you use that argument then it applies to every seat in the stadium. By all means bring in the safe standing and relocate STs, but if you address legitimate concerns of FFL ST holders with "it isn't your seat", then it opens the logical argument that nobody anywhere in the stadium would have a right to be peeved if they didn't get a shot to renew. That's all.

I think people do get your point - it's just there isn't a good reason just now for everyone else to not get a shot to renew.

If other sections of the stadium need to be changed for the benefit of the club at some point in the future then I would agree with you that it would be fair game for the same thing to happen.

[xbar81]

there is no reason in this day and age that we can't have standing at the football. It will spread to all the clubs. Well done hibs

[Torto7]

Should be called the Safe Stanton Stand

I like that they should call it that.:aok:

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Without reading all this again, is it section18 of FFL that they are making safe standing or 17 & 19 as well

[RIP]

there is no reason in this day and age that we can't have standing at the football. It will spread to all the clubs. Well done hibs

I'm one of several hundred Hibs supporters who have stood at Easter Road since the East Stand opened in 2010.

That's not going to change just because rails are to be installed in the FF stand.

[linlithgowhibbie]

I'm one of several hundred Hibs supporters who have stood at Easter Road since the East Stand opened in 2010.

That's not going to change just because rails are to be installed in the FF stand.

Same here, S43 standing/singing squad!:thumbsup:

[BoomtownHibees]

Without reading all this again, is it section18 of FFL that they are making safe standing or 17 & 19 as well

I took it as being the whole end but don’t think the statement actually mentioned it, unless I missed that

[GreenCastle]

I’m happy to help at any moment on this. Just drop me a message.

It has been noted throughout the factfinding process and during the consultation meetings, no Season Ticket Holder will be made to move from their current purchased seat if they so wish and should any current supporter (and family or community group) wish to move to a different area we’ll have various options for them. The Club must ensure that a duty of care is provided to those impacted and we’ll be contacting those people direct to offer a personal service on what they want to do next.

In September last year, we communicated with all supporters via direct email and released an article on our website (Fan Consultation: Singing Section - https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/fan-consultation-singing-section) and a thread on here about holding an in-person meeting at Easter Road on the 10th of October and an online meeting the following night on the 11th regarding matchday experience, singing and standing sections. Running concurrently at this time, we had a survey open to all for gathering supporter opinions on the singing section and atmosphere at Easter Road.

Key highlights from the survey is noted in the article we released today here (Safe Standing To Be Introduced At Easter Road - https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/safe-standing-to-be-introduced-at-easter-road)

✳️ More than 1,700 Season Ticket holders completed the survey

✳️ 83% of supporters are in favour of safe standing being introduced to the Famous Five Lower

✳️ 82% of supporters believe the introduction of a safe standing section would improve the atmosphere at Easter
Road

✳️ If safe standing was introduced to the Famous Five Lower, 51% of current Season Ticket holders within this section would either remain in the section or be interested in more information

✳️ 65% of current Famous Five Lower Season Ticket holders said that Family Section pricing was extremely important to them

✳️ 70% of Famous Five Lower Season Ticket holders stated that sitting within a designated Family Section was either extremely important or important to them

The Club is now working behind-the-scenes to finalise how safe standing will be introduced to the Famous Five Lower Tier.
A new designated family area will also be introduced inside Easter Road with prices that match the 2023/24 Famous Five Lower family pricing. We have more stadium change announcements to roll out soon.

The Club understands that the topic of change can be difficult and appreciates all supporters' dedication to Hibernian FC. Our goal is to make sure that any transitions are carried out as smoothly, as positively and as fairly for all.

If I can help any supporter on this, or anything else, just give me a shout.

Can you clarify if it’s the whole FF lower or just some sections ?

Bit of confusion over this and be helpful to know for fans who sit in FF lower.

Thanks

[Power]

Can i ask if there has been further discussions of flags during game play? I brought this up at the first consultation We sit in FFL section 18 near back and have a great view and will stay in standing if guaranteed that view of the game.....couldnt see a thing against that Gibraltan outfit due to flags so moved out of my seats for Luzern game. If Block 7 as i suspect get the front rows their flags will block views of those behind.

No further discussion on that point but it has been noted regarding sight lines from the consultations and surveys ✅


Can you clarify if it’s the whole FF lower or just some sections ?

Bit of confusion over this and be helpful to know for fans who sit in FF lower.

Thanks

The next release of information from the club in early February will be more detailed - communicating exactly how the Club intend on introducing it and the impact it'll have on supporters, if any, depending on their seat/circumstances.

[SHODAN]

No further discussion on that point but it has been noted regarding sight lines from the consultations and surveys ✅



The next release of information from the club in early February will be more detailed - communicating exactly how the Club intend on introducing it and the impact it'll have on supporters, if any, depending on their seat/circumstances.

Thanks for the info, Kieran.

Are the club going to take any action on Block 7 and/or those wearing Block 7 insignia forcibly displacing paying supporters from their allocated seats at away matches? We hear reports of this every week to no apparent consequence. I likely won't take up Hibs First next season if there isn't anything done about this.

[mutley]

Thanks for the info, Kieran.

Are the club going to take any action on Block 7 and/or those wearing Block 7 insignia forcibly displacing paying supporters from their allocated seats at away matches? We hear reports of this every week to no apparent consequence. I likely won't take up Hibs First next season if there isn't anything done about this.

This is also the reason why some supporters (myself included) have stopped attending away matches as it’s just not worth the hassle arguing with them to get the seat you paid for


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[hibee]

Thanks for the info, Kieran.

Are the club going to take any action on Block 7 and/or those wearing Block 7 insignia forcibly displacing paying supporters from their allocated seats at away matches? We hear reports of this every week to no apparent consequence. I likely won't take up Hibs First next season if there isn't anything done about this.

My group of ST holders have all stopped going to away games for the same reason, not worth the hassle sadly.

[Chipper1875]

This is also the reason why some supporters (myself included) have stopped attending away matches as it’s just not with the hassle arguing with them to get the seat you paid for


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That’s very unfair on you , hopefully, you will get back . B7 decided not to use the allocated section at Killie . Thankful the made the wrong move re whose seats they were using . They moved to the correct area swiftly. Perhaps not as tough when their leader and crew isn’t there

[Power]

Thanks for the info, Kieran.

Are the club going to take any action on Block 7 and/or those wearing Block 7 insignia forcibly displacing paying supporters from their allocated seats at away matches? We hear reports of this every week to no apparent consequence. I likely won't take up Hibs First next season if there isn't anything done about this.

We’ve had conversations with different supporter groups this season on that subject (we now highlight where the singing section will be in the ticket release to help supporters decide how close or far they want to be - similar to how we did this over a decade ago). I would be disappointed if this scenario is still continuing - no feedback to myself at recent away games.

We remind supporters walkways should be kept clear, and if seated in the stand, to take up their designated seat (Ground Regulations and safety requirement). Stewards are there to help.

I’d encourage anyone to get in touch directly (at the game or any time thereafter via face-to-face,PM or email) and I can pick up with the club.

[Chipper1875]

We’ve had conversations with different supporter groups this season on that subject (we now highlight where the singing section will be in the ticket release to help supporters decide how close or far they want to be - similar to how we did this over a decade ago). I would be disappointed if this is still continuing - no feedback to myself at recent away games.

We remind supporters walkways should be kept clear, and if seated in the stand, to take up their designated seat (Ground Regulations and safety requirement). Stewards are there to help.

I’d encourage anyone to get in touch directly (at the game or any time thereafter via face-to-face,PM or email) and I can pick up with the club.

Good work . Issue is for example At Inverness they have been given the central section . They stand up so they fans either side have to see . Therefore , it had a knock on effect . A more sensible approach if they got section L. They got allocated a wing section at kille at that seemed to work better

[RIP]

We’ve had conversations with different supporter groups this season on that subject (we now highlight where the singing section will be in the ticket release to help supporters decide how close or far they want to be - similar to how we did this over a decade ago). I would be disappointed if this scenario is still continuing - no feedback to myself at recent away games.

We remind supporters walkways should be kept clear, and if seated in the stand, to take up their designated seat (Ground Regulations and safety requirement). Stewards are there to help.

I’d encourage anyone to get in touch directly (at the game or any time thereafter via face-to-face,PM or email) and I can pick up with the club.

At Forfar we noticed the big Hibs security guy (6 foot 3 or 4, smart suit, club tie) coming into the crowd behind the goal. There were no issues there as it was all standing.

But Power. If we are risking losing fans from Hibs First and away crowds due to our Ultras stealing allocated seats, surely we need a couple of stewards paid by Hibs in there to ensure our fans get what they paid for?

[Pretty Boy]

At Forfar we noticed the big Hibs security guy (6 foot 3 or 4, smart suit, club tie) coming into the crowd behind the goal. There were no issues there as it was all standing.

But Power. If we are risking losing fans from Hibs First and away crowds due to our Ultras stealing allocated seats, surely we need a couple of stewards paid by Hibs in there to ensure our fans get what they paid for?

I'm sure Celtic used to take their own stewards to away games, maybe still do.

Obviously there is additional cost involved in that but we are minted now so can probably afford it.

[linlithgowhibbie]

At Forfar we noticed the big Hibs security guy (6 foot 3 or 4, smart suit, club tie) coming into the crowd behind the goal. There were no issues there as it was all standing.

But Power. If we are risking losing fans from Hibs First and away crowds due to our Ultras stealing allocated seats, surely we need a couple of stewards paid by Hibs in there to ensure our fans get what they paid for?

Could an alternative be to advise the club we ae playing of the previous problems and ask them to get their stewards to deal?

[LaMotta]

At Forfar we noticed the big Hibs security guy (6 foot 3 or 4, smart suit, club tie) coming into the crowd behind the goal. There were no issues there as it was all standing.

But Power. If we are risking losing fans from Hibs First and away crowds due to our Ultras stealing allocated seats, surely we need a couple of stewards paid by Hibs in there to ensure our fans get what they paid for?


I'm sure Celtic used to take their own stewards to away games, maybe still do.

Obviously there is additional cost involved in that but we are minted now so can probably afford it.


Could an alternative be to advise the club we ae playing of the previous problems and ask them to get their stewards to deal?

Tough one because wee fuds like that who dont respect their fellow fans are not likely to respect a few stewards either unfortunately. Would it do much good?

[Carheenlea]

At Forfar we noticed the big Hibs security guy (6 foot 3 or 4, smart suit, club tie) coming into the crowd behind the goal. There were no issues there as it was all standing.

But Power. If we are risking losing fans from Hibs First and away crowds due to our Ultras stealing allocated seats, surely we need a couple of stewards paid by Hibs in there to ensure our fans get what they paid for?

Always wondered who that big fellow was who’d be out with the players when thanking the fans after away games.

Does he liaise with stewards from other clubs on things involving our travelling support as well then?

[Chipper1875]

At Forfar we noticed the big Hibs security guy (6 foot 3 or 4, smart suit, club tie) coming into the crowd behind the goal. There were no issues there as it was all standing.

But Power. If we are risking losing fans from Hibs First and away crowds due to our Ultras stealing allocated seats, surely we need a couple of stewards paid by Hibs in there to ensure our fans get what they paid for?

Why should hibs incur expense because between 10-50 B7 members can’t behave ? That’s the numbers they take to away games . 50 is the exception. Just stop selling them tickets until they behave.

[RIP]

Could an alternative be to advise the club we ae playing of the previous problems and ask them to get their stewards to deal?

Put yourself in their shoes. We are asking you to fix a problem caused by a section of our own fans.

I'd imagine their reply would be to tell us to sort out our own ****.

[SHODAN]

Tough one because wee fuds like that who dont respect their fellow fans are not likely to respect a few stewards either unfortunately. Would it do much good?

Then ban them from buying tickets lmao. It's not ****ing hard!

[LaMotta]

Then ban them from buying tickets lmao. It's not ****ing hard!

Why are you LMAO? I was just pointing out there's not much point in having stewards as the solution.

[linlithgowhibbie]

Put yourself in their shoes. We are asking you to fix a problem caused by a section of our own fans.

I'd imagine their reply would be to tell us to sort out our own ****.

Remember tho that the home club is responsible for policing their own ground, albeit the Police are meant to do it!

[RIP]

Remember tho that the home club is responsible for policing their own ground, albeit the Police are meant to do it!

I'm in Section 44 near the Aisle to 45. I'm struggling to get up and down for a pee with Block 7 taking up that space. If we can't sort out our own seating area what chance another club's stewards doing so?

Needs bouncer stewards paid by Hibs imo 😆

[Skol]

I like the concept of safe standing. However the reality is that this area will attract people that mean it will not be an attractive proposition for most people.

I quite liked standing at Forfar. I hate standing at tynecastle.

[Glory Lurker]

Ooooo. Look at the Red Wall. Millions of folk there.

[Onceinawhile]

Didn't want to start a new thread, but did anyone catch what the issue was with block 7 and the other people in their section today?

Fairly sure I heard the boy on the microphone shout "shut it ya f*****g p*o*".

Anyone else hear it?

[LaMotta]

Ooooo. Look at the Red Wall. Millions of folk there.

I'm assuming you mean Red Shed? The Red Shed at Pittodrie is sold out most weeks - the fans all overcrowd in the middle sections though which makes the end sections sparse.

[PHeffernan]

Remember tho that the home club is responsible for policing their own ground, albeit the Police are meant to do it!

Stewarding and policing are two very different things.
This thread is speaking about stewarding issues so nothing to do with the Police.

[LewysGot2]

I'm in Section 44 near the Aisle to 45. I'm struggling to get up and down for a pee with Block 7 taking up that space. If we can't sort out our own seating area what chance another club's stewards doing so?

Needs bouncer stewards paid by Hibs imo 😆

You would have been okay 2nd half when Block 7 looked like Block 1.5 after most of them left 😉