SPFL / SFA rules on unacceptable fan conduct

[NAE NOOKIE]

On Wednesday night the following rules were made to look like an utter joke by the away support, as they were the last time they visited ER and the time before that and the time before that ad nauseam. It was an en masse bigot fest of anti Catholic songs, with even the old classic 'No Pope from Rome' belted out with rabid enthusiasm

Short of their support actually kidnapping a Catholic priest and hanging him from the upper deck of the south stand until he is dead, at what point will the conduct of the supporters of Rangers football club lead to the club being sanctioned for breaking these rules?

At what point will Hibernian football club grow a set and refuse to be culpable in allowing this hateful bile to pollute our stadium by refusing to allocate tickets to their support.

WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH HIBS ???


Accordingly the SPFL introduced new rules regarding Unacceptable Conduct at football matches with effect from 1st August, 2007. The SFA has also adopted these rules for Scottish Cup Matches.

Where a club is in breach of, or failure to fulfil the Rules relative to Unacceptable Conduct, the SPFL may take certain action against the Club. Examples of this include fines and deduction of points.

· Conduct which stirs up or sustains, or is likely or is designed to stir up or sustain hatred or ill will against or towards individuals or groups of people because of:
· Colour, race, nationality, (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origin
· Membership, or presumed membership, of a religious group or of a social cultural group with perceived religious affiliation

[HoboHarry]

On Wednesday night the following rules were made to look like an utter joke by the away support, as they were the last time they visited ER and the time before that and the time before that ad nauseam. It was an en masse bigot fest of anti Catholic songs, with even the old classic 'No Pope from Rome' belted out with rabid enthusiasm

Short of their support actually kidnapping a Catholic priest and hanging him from the upper deck of the south stand until he is dead, at what point will the conduct of the supporters of Rangers football club lead to the club being sanctioned for breaking these rules?

At what point will Hibernian football club grow a set and refuse to be culpable in allowing this hateful bile to pollute our stadium by refusing to allocate tickets to their support.

WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH HIBS ???


Accordingly the SPFL introduced new rules regarding Unacceptable Conduct at football matches with effect from 1st August, 2007. The SFA has also adopted these rules for Scottish Cup Matches.

Where a club is in breach of, or failure to fulfil the Rules relative to Unacceptable Conduct, the SPFL may take certain action against the Club. Examples of this include fines and deduction of points.

· Conduct which stirs up or sustains, or is likely or is designed to stir up or sustain hatred or ill will against or towards individuals or groups of people because of:
· Colour, race, nationality, (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origin
· Membership, or presumed membership, of a religious group or of a social cultural group with perceived religious affiliation









I'll happily stand corrected but I'm fairly sure that clubs voted against strict liability, so in short they are untouchable because all of the other clubs, including Hibs, are happy to fiddle while Rome burns.

[Rick Rude]

But just like at the weekend when their fans were singing about hanging Neil Lennon as his 17 year old son came on for Dumbarton, I'm sure the papers will run stories condemning them and then rangers will come out and apologise and promise to ban these fans. Oh wait, does that only happen when other team's fans upset rangers?

[linlithgowhibbie]

Is there not still an official observer at all SPFL matches? If so how can we find out who he is, what he saw and heard and what was mentioned in his report?

If his report was submitted with mentions of all the sectarian bile/piro from the rangers fans, who in the SPFL reads the report and decides what action if any is decided on?

[Torto7]

Nobody will do anything at the club or the authorities, they're too cowardly. Anti Catholicism is tolerated in Scottish society. You even get cretins in our own support who secretly hold similar views.

[bod]

So wanted the smoke alarms to go off when the flares were out.abandon the game for safety purposes like what should’ve happened at Dundee earlier,then something might’ve been done

[Leithenhibby]

On Wednesday night the following rules were made to look like an utter joke by the away support, as they were the last time they visited ER and the time before that and the time before that ad nauseam. It was an en masse bigot fest of anti Catholic songs, with even the old classic 'No Pope from Rome' belted out with rabid enthusiasm

Short of their support actually kidnapping a Catholic priest and hanging him from the upper deck of the south stand until he is dead, at what point will the conduct of the supporters of Rangers football club lead to the club being sanctioned for breaking these rules?

At what point will Hibernian football club grow a set and refuse to be culpable in allowing this hateful bile to pollute our stadium by refusing to allocate tickets to their support.

WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH HIBS ???


Accordingly the SPFL introduced new rules regarding Unacceptable Conduct at football matches with effect from 1st August, 2007. The SFA has also adopted these rules for Scottish Cup Matches.

Where a club is in breach of, or failure to fulfil the Rules relative to Unacceptable Conduct, the SPFL may take certain action against the Club. Examples of this include fines and deduction of points.

· Conduct which stirs up or sustains, or is likely or is designed to stir up or sustain hatred or ill will against or towards individuals or groups of people because of:
· Colour, race, nationality, (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origin
· Membership, or presumed membership, of a religious group or of a social cultural group with perceived religious affiliation










Stuck in the 17th century I'm afraid...:rolleyes:


I'd cut their ticket allocation to the absolute bone until they behave as we would expect any human being(s) to behave. Sometimes in life, it's not about the money...

It's 2024 ffs...

[green day]

I'll happily stand corrected but I'm fairly sure that clubs voted against strict liability, so in short they are untouchable because all of the other clubs, including Hibs, are happy to fiddle while Rome burns.

Yep.

There is nothing in the rules that could be used to sanction Rangers for their fans behaviour.

It has happened in Euro games, iirc?

I note that - last week - FIFA discussed introducing points deductions in the wake of the racist behaviour in England and Italy.

I wonder if this will also allow bleed over to the sectarian problem?


As an aside, I arrived at the match on Wed from Meadowbank retail and the sheer number of police was staggering. They look really hard in their riot gear in the street outside but appear to abdicate responsibility to stewards as soon as these neanderthals (and Celtic) get in stadiums.

[hibbiedon]

I’d gladly pay an extra £1 on ticket prices to compensate Hibs for loss of revenue if they cut their allocation to the minimum

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Hibs clearly have no issues with their behaviour, as they are allowed to do exactly as they wish every time without as much as comment from the club. Most seriously, blatant overcrowding is permitted every time which is a breach of safety certificate, and certainly a breach of Health & Safety law which someone at the club will find themselves answerable for in the event of a serious incident.

[Helensburghhibs]

Yep.

There is nothing in the rules that could be used to sanction Rangers for their fans behaviour.

It has happened in Euro games, iirc?

I note that - last week - FIFA discussed introducing points deductions in the wake of the racist behaviour in England and Italy.

I wonder if this will also allow bleed over to the sectarian problem?


As an aside, I arrived at the match on Wed from Meadowbank retail and the sheer number of police was staggering. They look really hard in their riot gear in the street outside but appear to abdicate responsibility to stewards as soon as these neanderthals (and Celtic) get in stadiums.

On a side note the match must have been policed by weegie polis. 8 meat wagons passed me on the m8 on the way home at showcase. I stopped for food after the game otherwise it could have just been mistaken for their supporters busses

[xbar81]

Does that include our own idiots? Mercer song for example:dunno:

[Jones28]

Does that include our own idiots? Mercer song for example:dunno:

It’s not a good song by any means, but it doesn’t break any of those rules.

[Keith_M]

Does that include our own idiots? Mercer song for example:dunno:


While I wish they'd stop singing that song, it hardly justifies the racist/sectarian behaviour in the away end.

[hibby rae]

Does that include our own idiots? Mercer song for example:dunno:

I realised at the Forfar game, whilst hearing Block 7 sing it for at least the 2nd time that game, it's the Hibs equivalent of England fans singing the German bomber song

[xbar81]

If Mercer had succeeded we wouldn't have Monty right now.

just saying

[Jones28]

If Mercer had succeeded we wouldn't have Monty right now.

just saying

😂

[Carheenlea]

Hibs clearly have no issues with their behaviour, as they are allowed to do exactly as they wish every time without as much as comment from the club. Most seriously, blatant overcrowding is permitted every time which is a breach of safety certificate, and certainly a breach of Health & Safety law which someone at the club will find themselves answerable for in the event of a serious incident.

The overcrowding in top tier was blatantly obvious to everyone in the ground. Rangers and Celtic appear to regularly overfill away grounds, and with this certainly not a first at Easter Road the very notion of forged tickets or doubling up at turnstiles must surely be the highest priority for stewards of police at the gates and lead up to gates to be alert to.

Surely nobody is making high quality forgeries of match tickets so they must be easy enough to spot, or are we offering them print at home facility and they are claiming non working QR codes and such?


If I was a sponsor of the club with an advertising space on the south, I’d be pretty annoyed that my paid for at no doubt quite an expense company branding was obscured by fans flags and banners at one of the highest profile games of the season.

Try draping a flag over adverstising space in the home stands at the next game and see how long it stays up for before being instructed to remove it.

[Steven79]

The overcrowding in top tier was blatantly obvious to everyone in the ground. Rangers and Celtic appear to regularly overfill away grounds, and with this certainly not a first at Easter Road the very notion of forged tickets or doubling up at turnstiles must surely be the highest priority for stewards of police at the gates and lead up to gates to be alert to.

Surely nobody is making high quality forgeries of match tickets so they must be easy enough to spot, or are we offering them print at home facility and they are claiming non working QR codes and such?


If I was a sponsor of the club with an advertising space on the south, I’d be pretty annoyed that my paid for at no doubt quite an expense company branding was obscured by fans flags and banners at one of the highest profile games of the season.

Try draping a flag over adverstising space in the home stands at the next game and see how long it stays up for before being instructed to remove it.We all know the stewards would be on us straight away.

May as well turn Easter Road completely over to that club when we turn up as I for one won't go when they are in town as long as we roll over for them.

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[Glory Lurker]

Don't the gruesome twosome not have their own stewards?

[Malonga's Cat]

Nothing to see here. Hibs, the SPFL, the SFA and large proportions of Scottish society are happy to sweep this under the carpet. It's blatant, all of it. Both of the bigot brothers are continually let off with overcrowding, sectarian bile, behaving as they like and no one bats an eyelid. Under the carpet it goes.

[Chorley Hibee]

The overcrowding in top tier was blatantly obvious to everyone in the ground. Rangers and Celtic appear to regularly overfill away grounds, and with this certainly not a first at Easter Road the very notion of forged tickets or doubling up at turnstiles must surely be the highest priority for stewards of police at the gates and lead up to gates to be alert to.

Surely nobody is making high quality forgeries of match tickets so they must be easy enough to spot, or are we offering them print at home facility and they are claiming non working QR codes and such?


If I was a sponsor of the club with an advertising space on the south, I’d be pretty annoyed that my paid for at no doubt quite an expense company branding was obscured by fans flags and banners at one of the highest profile games of the season.

Try draping a flag over adverstising space in the home stands at the next game and see how long it stays up for before being instructed to remove it.

I repeatedly have issues from stewards and police (the length and breadth of Scotland) because of the West of Scotland branch flag that I often carry (nothing controversial) yet that lot (and Celtic) waltz around the country with a licence to do as they please.

Even more galling is our own club gladly facilitate their behaviour whilst continually targeting their own support.

Cowards.