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maturehibby
25-01-2024, 03:42 PM
Has he kicked a ball in the cup yet
Don't think so and as far as I know he wasn't even on the bench yesterday

JammyDoidger
25-01-2024, 03:54 PM
Not been in the squad the last 2 games, no sure if he's injured or they've just realised he's rotten.

JimBHibees
25-01-2024, 03:56 PM
Not been in the squad the last 2 games, no sure if he's injured or they've just realised he's rotten.

Nice. Have his country been knocked out and he is heading back?

JGS56
25-01-2024, 03:59 PM
Nice. Have his country been knocked out and he is heading back?

Qualified for knockout round of 16 with 3 draws.

JoJo Wallacott coming back as his country knocked out. Did not play any matches.

Exuberance1875
25-01-2024, 05:09 PM
Qualified for knockout round of 16 with 3 draws.

JoJo Wallacott coming back as his country knocked out. Did not play any matches.

Wallacott will be a huge help for the dev squad, can take Johnson’s place now he’s our sub goalie

Bridge hibs
25-01-2024, 05:43 PM
Not been in the squad the last 2 games, no sure if he's injured or they've just realised he's rotten.

**** post

Baader
25-01-2024, 05:51 PM
Not been in the squad the last 2 games, no sure if he's injured or they've just realised he's rotten.

:rolleyes:

Greensunshine
27-01-2024, 12:23 PM
It’s a real pity he hasn’t featured. He needs all the experience he can get under his belt.
He’s a player that has plenty potential and I can see he has many good qualities but unfortunately he has that one bad quality which is poor decision making for me. I don’t trust him with the ball at his feet. He doesn’t fill me with confidence at all.
Hopefully he can mature into a better player having gained more international experience and prove doubters like myself wrong.

JammyDoidger
27-01-2024, 12:26 PM
It’s a real pity he hasn’t featured. He needs all the experience he can get under his belt.
He’s a player that has plenty potential and I can see he has many good qualities but unfortunately he has that one bad quality which is poor decision making for me. I don’t trust him with the ball at his feet. He doesn’t fill me with confidence at all.
Hopefully he can mature into a better player having gained more international experience and prove doubters like myself wrong.

He's 24 now, not exactly a young boy, he's 8 years older than Whittaker, if we can get rid we should.

Jones28
27-01-2024, 12:26 PM
It’s a real pity he hasn’t featured. He needs all the experience he can get under his belt.
He’s a player that has plenty potential and I can see he has many good qualities but unfortunately he has that one bad quality which is poor decision making for me. I don’t trust him with the ball at his feet. He doesn’t fill me with confidence at all.
Hopefully he can mature into a better player having gained more international experience and prove doubters like myself wrong.

Why don’t you trust him with the ball at his feet?

I don’t ever remember him being caught on the ball and it leading to a goal - happy to be corrected on that.

Sometimes his passes can be wayward but that’s he same for every defender in the world, they’re primary concern is not to spray passes all over the pitch.

I agree he has his moments, but for a guy that size to move as well as he does I think he does well.

Remember our defenders are adjusting to a new formation too, and being a midfielder down they’re more exposed.

That’s applicable to all our defenders btw.

JammyDoidger
27-01-2024, 12:36 PM
Why don’t you trust him with the ball at his feet?

I don’t ever remember him being caught on the ball and it leading to a goal - happy to be corrected on that.

Sometimes his passes can be wayward but that’s he same for every defender in the world, they’re primary concern is not to spray passes all over the pitch.

I agree he has his moments, but for a guy that size to move as well as he does I think he does well.

Remember our defenders are adjusting to a new formation too, and being a midfielder down they’re more exposed.

That’s applicable to all our defenders btw.

The boys a bombscare, a centre half that shuts his eyes when going to header it. Hearts goal the other week prime example, looks like he should be solid but he's as soft as..offers nothing attacking set plays aswell, the Quicker we are shot of folk like this the better, we need to be ruthless going forward. Too many players have had too many chances. With this new investment he won't last much longer, better days ahead for us boys.

Greensunshine
27-01-2024, 12:44 PM
Why don’t you trust him with the ball at his feet?

I don’t ever remember him being caught on the ball and it leading to a goal - happy to be corrected on that.

Sometimes his passes can be wayward but that’s he same for every defender in the world, they’re primary concern is not to spray passes all over the pitch.

I agree he has his moments, but for a guy that size to move as well as he does I think he does well.

Remember our defenders are adjusting to a new formation too, and being a midfielder down they’re more exposed.

That’s applicable to all our defenders btw.

I never said anything about him being caught on the ball and it leading to a goal.

I just think he lingers too long in possession, slowing down our play to the detriment of our midfielders who are maybe showing for the a quick pass into feet. The decision not to play a quick easy pass gives your opponent incentive to chase you down and put you under pressure when really the pass should have been made.
It also gives opportunity for the ball to get nicked and a hurried pass that goes backward breaking our momentum.
Agree that it’s also applicable to all of our defenders, especially at home.
The tempo we play at home needs to be a lot quicker and that’s were he could improve for me.
Play the quick easy pass and then move to make an angle.

greenlex
27-01-2024, 01:28 PM
I never said anything about him being caught on the ball and it leading to a goal.

I just think he lingers too long in possession, slowing down our play to the detriment of our midfielders who are maybe showing for the a quick pass into feet. The decision not to play a quick easy pass gives your opponent incentive to chase you down and put you under pressure when really the pass should have been made.
It also gives opportunity for the ball to get nicked and a hurried pass that goes backward breaking our momentum.
Agree that it’s also applicable to all of our defenders, especially at home.
The tempo we play at home needs to be a lot quicker and that’s were he could improve for me.
Play the quick easy pass and then move to make an angle.

If there was a midfielder showing quickly for the ball pre window I’ll eat my hat. And yours.

BILLYHIBS
27-01-2024, 09:26 PM
If there was a midfielder showing quickly for the ball pre window I’ll eat my hat. And yours.

Needs the goalie to release the ball quicker as well

He ( Marshall) started off fine but got slower and slower

Seen Rocky taking the ball for a walk up the park many times in a frustrated attempt to get us up the park not slow in possession at all and never been caught in possession apart from Killie and that was a corner always seems to get away with it using his pace and power similar to Efe

As you say ain’t no midfielders looking for the early ball usually hiding

You just have to look at The Rangers on Wednesday at our goal kicks it was amateur hour like taking candy off a baby as we gave them back possession with a misplaced pass or out of play time after time I don’t think they even broke sweat all night

Embarrassing

Rant over 😀

Greensunshine
27-01-2024, 10:21 PM
Needs the goalie to release the ball quicker as well

He started off fine but got slower and slower

Seen Rocky taking the ball for a walk up the park many times in a frustrated attempt to get us up the park not slow in possession at all and never been caught in possession apart from Killie and that was a corner always seems to get away with it using his pace and power similar to Efe

As you say ain’t no midfielders looking for the early ball usually hiding

You just have to look at The Rangers on Wednesday at our goal kicks it was amateur hour like taking candy off a baby as we gave them back possession with a misplaced pass or out of play time after time I don’t think they even broke sweat all night

Embarrassing

Rant over 😀

……it’s amazing how opinions vary! Some praising him and others think he’s a bombscare! As I’ve said, I think he needs to improve, he’s got plenty of good attributes.
I think we all hope he can gain experience at international level and come back a better player.

BILLYHIBS
27-01-2024, 10:30 PM
……it’s amazing how opinions vary! Some praising him and others think he’s a bombscare! As I’ve said, I think he needs to improve, he’s got plenty of good attributes.
I think we all hope he can gain experience at international level and come back a better player.

There is plenty room for improvement with Rocky he is young and we need to forgive him his error against Hearts as it is a steep learning curve so far he has not been quoted in a competitive game in the Africa Cup but it might be the decision has already been taken as we look to bring more quality and experience to our central defence

I am convinced he will go on to have a decent career wherever he ends up as he is a quick learner

wookie70
27-01-2024, 10:50 PM
The boys a bombscare, a centre half that shuts his eyes when going to header it. Hearts goal the other week prime example, looks like he should be solid but he's as soft as..offers nothing attacking set plays aswell, the Quicker we are shot of folk like this the better, we need to be ruthless going forward. Too many players have had too many chances. With this new investment he won't last much longer, better days ahead for us boys.

I can't recall a player that doesn't shut their eyes when going to header a ball. I wouldn't disagree we need better but he is still young enough to improve and has got better since he joined. We need to sign cover/competition for Hanlon and Rocky if fine for cover for Fish

BILLYHIBS
28-01-2024, 06:03 AM
I can't recall a player that doesn't shut their eyes when going to header a ball. I wouldn't disagree we need better but he is still young enough to improve and has got better since he joined. We need to sign cover/competition for Hanlon and Rocky if fine for cover for Fish

Fish been making errors recently too we need better quality and experience in

RIP
28-01-2024, 06:45 AM
Fish been making errors recently too we need better quality and experience in

What were his recent errors out of interest?

We are signing another 20 year old centre half.

Rocky has a lot of promise. He's very good with the ball at his feet.

How many of the fans who are hanging him out to dry for the Shankland goal spotted the wee cheat rabbit punching him in the throat before winning the challenge? The ref missed it too.

As has been said before, how many players at Hibs over the years have been called a 'bombscare'?

***** patter IMO

BILLYHIBS
28-01-2024, 07:20 AM
What were his recent errors out of interest?

We are signing another 20 year old centre half.

Rocky has a lot of promise. He's very good with the ball at his feet.

How many of the fans who are hanging him out to dry for the Shankland goal spotted the wee cheat rabbit punching him in the throat before winning the challenge? The ref missed it too.

As has been said before, how many players at Hibs over the years have been called a 'bombscare'?

***** patter IMO

Fish guilty of giving the ball away with slack passes and play yesterday and against The Rangers and Forfar

At one time I would have paid 1m to keep him now I am not so sure I think we could probably get better saying that like Rocky he is still young but the rumoured replacements ( hear say ) and the new boy Amos or Obita might be a better option especially if this is Hanlon’s last season

We need better in now and cannot keep blundering along from game to game

You will not find a better defender of Rocky on these threads than Billyhibs he is far from a bombscare but people seem to have made up their minds though I cannot remember any glaring errors apart from the Shankland incident and yes Shankland was at it all night even had a go at Fish

Efe was also called a bombscare the guy was class and probably our best player when he was here should never have left hope it was worth it financially

Edit : Amos is a DM Moriah-Welsh midfielder

patlowe
28-01-2024, 07:01 PM
It's not just on the ball - he regularly gifts the opposition chances with wayward positioning and ball-watching. It's not just him by the way - the whole defence has been pretty awful this season, not helped by a real failure to recruit properly in both centre half and full back positions over a number of windows.

jacomo
28-01-2024, 07:51 PM
Why don’t you trust him with the ball at his feet?

I don’t ever remember him being caught on the ball and it leading to a goal - happy to be corrected on that.

Sometimes his passes can be wayward but that’s he same for every defender in the world, they’re primary concern is not to spray passes all over the pitch.

I agree he has his moments, but for a guy that size to move as well as he does I think he does well.

Remember our defenders are adjusting to a new formation too, and being a midfielder down they’re more exposed.

That’s applicable to all our defenders btw.


For poor decision making, see the way he somehow allowed Shankland to win a ball he was favoured for and score the only goal in the last derby.

I want to defend all our players but that was schoolboy stuff.

Gus
28-01-2024, 10:26 PM
Beat Egypt on penalties, he was in the squad tonight at least but going by bbc all was named so maybe he’s be injured/unwell for last one?

sauzee1989
28-01-2024, 11:14 PM
Let’s hope they go all the way! Even if we are struggling for centre backs, he makes us worse.

JohnM1875
28-01-2024, 11:16 PM
Let’s hope they go all the way! Even if we are struggling for centre backs, he makes us worse.

Any need?

Greensunshine
28-01-2024, 11:46 PM
I remember he was at fault with his poor positioning in the first Edinburgh derby of the season. A simple clearance from the Hearts right back went right over everyone’s head, including Rocky’s and allowed the Hearts player in behind, I think he hit the post with his effort but it was so bad from us defensively.
I think we need to bring in experienced defenders, especially at CH. I’m sick of us being soft at the back. Please can we just try and stop teams walking all over us.
Not one of our managers has solved this problem and the last thing we need is a calamitous defender making things worse than they already are.

Forza Fred
29-01-2024, 12:11 AM
Not been in the squad the last 2 games, no sure if he's injured or they've just realised he's rotten.

Would expect to see a comment like that about a current Hibs player on Kickback.

HoboHarry
29-01-2024, 12:26 AM
Would expect to see a comment like that about a current Hibs player on Kickback.

In the case of that particular poster, i think thats his day job.

Viva_Palmeiras
29-01-2024, 03:32 AM
So he’s not playing for us or the National team and he’s still getting pelters - peak .net for you :facepalm

hibsbollah
29-01-2024, 07:08 AM
Let’s hope they go all the way! Even if we are struggling for centre backs, he makes us worse.

Classless.

Greenbeard
29-01-2024, 07:22 AM
It's not just on the ball - he regularly gifts the opposition chances with wayward positioning and ball-watching. It's not just him by the way - the whole defence has been pretty awful this season, not helped by a real failure to recruit properly in both centre half and full back positions over a number of windows.
Away Manager to team (inc Forfar):
"Hibs will play it out from the back. Not might. Will. None of the their defenders can spray a pass and their midfielders rarely work to get in space for a pass or return pass, so press them and force their defenders to hit an optimistic pass which more often than not will be poor and give us a good chance of getting back possession. Do that and we nullify the threat they have going forward. Piece of p!ss really."

Donegal Hibby
29-01-2024, 09:44 AM
Let’s hope they go all the way! Even if we are struggling for centre backs, he makes us worse.

Having a full squad makes us stronger and gives our manager more options to choose from . Sorry your logic on this one makes no sense to me at all :confused:

J-C
29-01-2024, 11:39 AM
Would expect to see a comment like that about a current Hibs player on Kickback.

That poster hates all things Hibs, one of a few on these boards.

Gordy M
29-01-2024, 11:43 AM
Away Manager to team (inc Forfar):
"Hibs will play it out from the back. Not might. Will. None of the their defenders can spray a pass and their midfielders rarely work to get in space for a pass or return pass, so press them and force their defenders to hit an optimistic pass which more often than not will be poor and give us a good chance of getting back possession. Do that and we nullify the threat they have going forward. Piece of p!ss really."

And yet only 4 teams have managed to beat us since Montgomery took over? Not really that much of a piece of piss.

Hibee Daft
29-01-2024, 11:50 AM
Hopefully he comes back a better and more motivated player after being with all the national team players, like anyone else he will be desperate to play for his country

JimBHibees
29-01-2024, 04:00 PM
And yet only 4 teams have managed to beat us since Montgomery took over? Not really that much of a piece of piss.

5 no.

xbar81
29-01-2024, 04:13 PM
got the potential to be a good player.

RIP
29-01-2024, 09:25 PM
For poor decision making, see the way he somehow allowed Shankland to win a ball he was favoured for and score the only goal in the last derby.

I want to defend all our players but that was schoolboy stuff.

It appears that it wasn't just the ref that missed the wee cheat rabbit punching Rocky in the throat with his left hand to knock him off balance. He uses his flailing arm in that way and rarely gets pulled up for it.

Did it with his right arm in a previous Derby to put Rocky off when he had a free header. At the time I felt that if Bushiri had gone down, VAR might have awarded a penalty.

The officials aren't on top of these sly arm and hand fouls. I'm pretty sure that clubs such as Hearts and Aberdeen practice them in training.

RIP Bestie
29-01-2024, 09:31 PM
**** post

***** thread.

The Modfather
28-02-2024, 09:21 PM
Thought he was good tonight, as well as against Dundee. He will make mistakes and cost us goals but no more than Fish & Hanlon IMO.

I’d like to see him take Fish’ place and see if playing on the right improves him further. Then Triantis or Hanlon to partner him until the summer rebuild.

VoltaireHibs
28-02-2024, 09:29 PM
He's always been a good young centre half that hadn't played many games. He's only going to improve. Rocky will make us money.

BILLYHIBS
28-02-2024, 09:31 PM
Worried for him after the yellow especially with the foreheid backing into him, falling over, winding him up at every opportunity and trying to get him sent off but thought he coped admirably

Another hard luck story with a quality striker to finish off our good play and cash in on our periods of dominance we should have been out of sight

Rocky will make us money LJ wouldn’t sell him for 12m remember 😀

GreenNWhiteArmy
28-02-2024, 09:33 PM
Worried for him after the yellow especially with the foreheid backing into him, falling over, winding him up at every opportunity and trying to get him sent off but thought he coped admirably

Another hard luck story with a quality striker to finish off our good play and cash in on our periods of dominance we would have been out of sight

Agreed billy. Big man was solid. Fivehead clearly targets Rocky as he dropped on to him anytime hearts went long but he dealt with him well tonight

JammyDoidger
28-02-2024, 09:37 PM
I don't see what others see in him like, always looks like he goes in half hearted like he's scared to get hurt, which is why he mistimes things, he hesitates. We can do much better and will in the summer I think.

JohnM1875
28-02-2024, 09:39 PM
I don't see what others see in him like, always looks like he goes in half hearted like he's scared to get hurt, which is why he mistimes things, he hesitates. We can do much better and will in the summer I think.

He just needs to improve in the air for me. Sort that out and he’ll be golden. Lets the ball bounce too much and just completely mistimes headers.

He’s quick, strong and good on the ball (something I think he gets zero credit for). All the makings of a good player.

The Spaceman
28-02-2024, 09:40 PM
Big man was solid as a rock tonight. Gave “Sniper’s dream” absolutely nothing.

supermcginn
28-02-2024, 09:43 PM
He cruised it tonight, he's our best centre back.

DH1875
28-02-2024, 09:52 PM
I don't see what others see in him like, always looks like he goes in half hearted like he's scared to get hurt, which is why he mistimes things, he hesitates. We can do much better and will in the summer I think.

Seriously? While we can and will do better in the summer he's as good as any CB at the club. To say he goes in half hearted isn't fair on the guy at all.

Donegal Hibby
29-02-2024, 12:28 AM
Thought he was excellent again . Well done Rocky 👏