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Hibs3-2
24-01-2024, 09:28 PM
Quite possibly the worst debut (or even performance actually) ive ever seen from a Hibs player. How he never got hooked at half time i’ll never know.

May21/05/216
24-01-2024, 09:32 PM
That's the spirit

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bingo70
24-01-2024, 09:32 PM
Very harsh imo.

Thought he was very quiet but so were all our attacking players, possibly apart from Youann who was lively enough.

I’ve seen lots of people say the same as the OP but I can’t remember him doing too much wrong. Even his chance was hit ok, was an outstanding save from Butland.

Ozyhibby
24-01-2024, 09:34 PM
Very harsh imo.

Thought he was very quiet but so were all our attacking players, possibly apart from Youann who was lively enough.

I’ve seen lots of people say the same as the OP but I can’t remember him doing too much wrong. Even his chance was hit ok, was an outstanding save from Butland.

It’s only harsh because he’s just in the door. Anyone else and he’s have been slated. Missed a glorious chance and contributed nothing else the rest of the game. Couldn’t have gone much worse for him. Hopefully he can recover.


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JohnM1875
24-01-2024, 09:36 PM
Quite possibly the worst debut (or even performance actually) ive ever seen from a Hibs player. How he never got hooked at half time i’ll never know.

Shocking post

Johnny_Leith
24-01-2024, 09:36 PM
He can only get better, hopefully. Should have scored. Generally, was so far off the pace.

Unseen work
24-01-2024, 09:37 PM
I don’t like criticising players on their debut but that was really poor.

Maybe sharpness and a big step up in opposition was why but dearie me, I genuinely think he kept the ball twice.

His touch, awareness and passing was poor.

He never gave the impression he was out to prove a point or trying to get rid of the lazy tag.

Also expected him to drop into pockets of space more than he did, he just kind of slowly jogged all over the place. No real pace or aggression shown.

Then obviously he missed a huge chance at a crucial time of the game, funnily enough that’s one I can sort of accept

CMac1988
24-01-2024, 09:37 PM
Poor debut but no worse than Vente. Weren't given much to play off but when they did get the ball neither was able to do much with it.

21sMay
24-01-2024, 09:37 PM
Quite possibly the worst debut (or even performance actually) ive ever seen from a Hibs player. How he never got hooked at half time i’ll never know.

Tend to agree but willing to give the guy time to get upto speed with the Scottish game . Looked like he didn't know what he was supposed to be doing

hibsbollah
24-01-2024, 09:37 PM
Nothing came off for him and he should have scored. Hopefully more to come.

bingo70
24-01-2024, 09:38 PM
It’s only harsh because he’s just in the door. Anyone else and he’s have been slated. Missed a glorious chance and contributed nothing else the rest of the game. Couldn’t have gone much worse for him. Hopefully he can recover.


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You say missed a glorious chance, I say Butland made a great save from him. I don’t think he did a hell of a lot wrong with that finish. Was a brilliant save.

Wilson
24-01-2024, 09:40 PM
Nothing came off for him and he should have scored. Hopefully more to come.

I think we'll see more of that at least.

hibsbollah
24-01-2024, 09:40 PM
You say missed a glorious chance, I say Butland made a great save from him. I don’t think he did a hell of a lot wrong with that finish. Was a brilliant save.

Looked a good save from where i was but a quality striker should bury that and not give the keeper a chance to even get near it.

Im not writing him off though.

Real Emerald
24-01-2024, 09:42 PM
I don’t like criticising players on their debut but that was really poor.

Maybe sharpness and a big step up in opposition was why but dearie me, I genuinely think he kept the ball twice.

His touch, awareness and passing was poor.

He never gave the impression he was out to prove a point or trying to get rid of the lazy tag.

Also expected him to drop into pockets of space more than he did, he just kind of slowly jogged all over the place. No real pace or aggression shown.

Then obviously he missed a huge chance at a crucial time of the game, funnily enough that’s one I can sort of accept

He looked like he’d came from a pub league, a dominoes pub league. Absolutely woeful performance that you can’t sugar coat.

skyehibee
24-01-2024, 09:44 PM
Didn’t look fit to me, also looked like he didn’t really know what he was doing or position he should be taking up.

HendoDelivered
24-01-2024, 09:45 PM
🤣🤣🤣

Ozyhibby
24-01-2024, 09:45 PM
You say missed a glorious chance, I say Butland made a great save from him. I don’t think he did a hell of a lot wrong with that finish. Was a brilliant save.

It was a great save. A great save that he should not have been able to make because the striker makes sure.


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hibee_girl
24-01-2024, 09:46 PM
He didn’t look match fit at all but that will come. He looked a bit lost tbh but probably to be expected thrown into a game like tonight straight away.

scoopyboy
24-01-2024, 09:46 PM
Quite possibly the worst debut (or even performance actually) ive ever seen from a Hibs player. How he never got hooked at half time i’ll never know.

Jair was worse than him tonight and unbelievably got 96 minutes on the park.

This completely rubbish last season to world beater this season is just a figment of peoples imaginations, he's improved this season but is not good enough to play for Hibs.

overdrive
24-01-2024, 09:47 PM
Well he can’t get much worse. Thats maybe a positive. We would have been better with Doidge or McKirdy up there than him.

Unseen work
24-01-2024, 09:48 PM
Jair was worse than him tonight and unbelievably got 96 minutes on the park.

This completely rubbish last season to world beater this season is just a figment of peoples imaginations, he's improved this season but is not good enough to play for Hibs.

Absolutely no way Jair was worse.

Myziane was the worst on the pitch by a distance

wookie70
24-01-2024, 09:49 PM
Looked absolutely burst after about 10 minutes. Never really did much barring missing an easy chance albeit a good save. I dare say you get that bringing in players that are miles off being match fit. Hard to believe he started as Marcondes looked far sharper, fitter and more eager to be involved. He also played much deeper so was getting in the way of The Rangers starting their attacks and bringing some movement to an area we have none. Amos looked ponder some and slow but it is a big step up from 6 months of U23 training. All in all no way of knowing if any of them will be effective or stay fit but they don't look much worse than what is playing and at least have the excuse of not being up to speed. There were a few tonight that should have been charged for a ticket for watching much of teh game.

Ozyhibby
24-01-2024, 09:50 PM
Jair was worse than him tonight and unbelievably got 96 minutes on the park.

This completely rubbish last season to world beater this season is just a figment of peoples imaginations, he's improved this season but is not good enough to play for Hibs.

Agree, don’t see what he brings at all? Def no output? A bit if hard work maybe but that’s it. No end product.


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yerauldda
24-01-2024, 09:51 PM
Absolutely no way Jair was worse.

Myziane was the worst on the pitch by a distance

Not even close. Levitt was immeasurably worse than him.

Paulie Walnuts
24-01-2024, 09:53 PM
Not even close. Levitt was immeasurably worse than him.

Agree. That performance from Levitt is one of the worst I’ve seen in years.

Having read some of the stuff that has been said about Greg Docherty for having a bad game against Hearts, that was even worse from Levitt.

04Sauzee
24-01-2024, 09:54 PM
Absolutely no way Jair was worse.

Myziane was the worst on the pitch by a distance

Don't think he was,Youan was beyond dreadful

ChuckNor
24-01-2024, 09:54 PM
Jair was worse than him tonight and unbelievably got 96 minutes on the park.

This completely rubbish last season to world beater this season is just a figment of peoples imaginations, he's improved this season but is not good enough to play for Hibs.

Genuinely one of the worst shouts on here tonight. He wasn’t great tonight but by no means was he the worst. He’s been one of few bright performers recently

LaMotta
24-01-2024, 09:54 PM
Well he can’t get much worse. Thats maybe a positive. We would have been better with Doidge or McKirdy up there than him.

:agree:

He looked like he'd won a competition to get on the pitch.

Real Emerald
24-01-2024, 09:56 PM
:agree:

He looked like he'd won a competition to get on the pitch.

It certainly wasn’t a competition that involved playing football. The post code lottery maybe?

B.H.F.C
24-01-2024, 09:56 PM
He was miles off the pace.

Should have scored but missed chances happen. There were other things that I thought were worse, just the general lack of application and willingness to fight a bit in the first half. He’s a big laddie but he was just shrugged aside, including in the lead up to Cantwell’s goal.

Unseen work
24-01-2024, 09:57 PM
Don't think he was,Youan was beyond dreadful

No way you genuinely think Youan was worse than him tonight? Every single good thing we done/chance created came through Youan.

hibsbollah
24-01-2024, 09:57 PM
Jair was worse than him tonight and unbelievably got 96 minutes on the park.

This completely rubbish last season to world beater this season is just a figment of peoples imaginations, he's improved this season but is not good enough to play for Hibs.

Thats a strange take.

scoopyboy
24-01-2024, 10:01 PM
Genuinely one of the worst shouts on here tonight. He wasn’t great tonight but by no means was he the worst. He’s been one of few bright performers recently

Alright then, tell me one good thing he done in the entire game.

Levitt was poor but early on played a superb through ball to Youan at 0-0.

The debutant was poorer but drew a great save from Butland when it just might have got us back in the game at 1-2.

Jair done sfa

scoopyboy
24-01-2024, 10:01 PM
Thats a strange take.

How, elaborate please

Mcbizz1998
24-01-2024, 10:02 PM
Agree with the OP, a shocker of a debut culminating with his miss to get us back in the game.

That’s not to say he won’t come good, but it wasn’t a great start! Other 2 looked a lot brighter when they came on.

Mcbizz1998
24-01-2024, 10:04 PM
How, elaborate please

I presume he means - Jair wasn’t worse than Maolida, to say so is a strange take (I also think it is).

hibsbollah
24-01-2024, 10:05 PM
How, elaborate please

Because there were at least four players worse than him. The worst i would say about Jair was he was quiet. Levitt and our new striker in particular were like two bald men fighting over a tiny comb in that regard.

jeffers
24-01-2024, 10:05 PM
Alright then, tell me one good thing he done in the entire game.

Levitt was poor but early on played a superb through ball to Youan at 0-0.

The debutant was poorer but drew a great save from Butland when it just might have got us back in the game at 1-2.

Jair done sfa

I’m with you. Said it during the game, Jair is crap. He’s better than he was last season but that’s hardly a ringing endorsement.

SeanWilson
24-01-2024, 10:06 PM
No way you genuinely think Youan was worse than him tonight? Every single good thing we done/chance created came through Youan.

My issue with Youan is that for every one positive thing he does, he probably loses the ball, doesn’t run, doesn’t pass, hides ten times. He’s technically good, has pace and does produce but I have no time for it. We don’t have a good enough team to afford it.

Felt punting the new boy in to start up front was mental.

04Sauzee
24-01-2024, 10:06 PM
No way you genuinely think Youan was worse than him tonight? Every single good thing we done/chance created came through Youan.

Yes I do, I don't normally come on here after games tbh. I thought he was abysmal and lazy. Just my opinion of course. We all see things differently.

Unseen work
24-01-2024, 10:06 PM
Alright then, tell me one good thing he done in the entire game.

Levitt was poor but early on played a superb through ball to Youan at 0-0.

The debutant was poorer but drew a great save from Butland when it just might have got us back in the game at 1-2.

Jair done sfa

Maolida shouldn’t have gave Butland a chance with that shot. But other than that he just genuinely struggled to control and keep the ball.

Jair drew a good save from Butland in the first half and skinned someone before playing a good ball through to Marcondes who had his shot blocked. Jair wasn’t great tonight, but he looked like he’d seen a football before

Greencore
24-01-2024, 10:07 PM
I hate our fan base.

Hiber-nation
24-01-2024, 10:07 PM
Looked like the sort of last minute panic loan signing that no-one has heard of we usually get in January but this guy actually has been decent in the past. So even more baffling how bad he was. Can't all be down to lack of fitness.

Hibee Mac
24-01-2024, 10:09 PM
Far too early to be slating him. I'd take him over the likes of McKirdy any day. Let him get fit and see what he's got

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GreenNWhiteArmy
24-01-2024, 10:11 PM
"Worst debut or performance from a hibs player ever"

****ing seriously!? Some of the utter dross we've sat through, the embarrassing results with seasoned pros

And we've got this hyperbolic BS regarding an on loan forward playing his debut against the 2nd best team in the country

"Worst performance ever" - what the actual ****

flash
24-01-2024, 10:12 PM
Yes I do, I don't normally come on here after games tbh. I thought he was abysmal and lazy. Just my opinion of course. We all see things differently.

That's an incredible opinion. Elie was our only half decent attacker until Marcondes came on.

truehibernian
24-01-2024, 10:15 PM
Alright then, tell me one good thing he done in the entire game.

Levitt was poor but early on played a superb through ball to Youan at 0-0.

The debutant was poorer but drew a great save from Butland when it just might have got us back in the game at 1-2.

Jair done sfa

Thought Maolida was simply awful tonight - poor spacial awareness, poor first touch, and at times he lost possession he made no effort to chase back, didn’t look up when in possession to see the next pass was either - compounded by missing an absolute sitter which would have got us right back in it.

Jair was the least of our worries tonight, but admittedly he, Levitt, Newell, Lewis, Vente and Youan were all dreadful at various times of the game. In a phrase, they’re all very consistent at being very inconsistent.

Second half with 20 minutes to go I honestly didn’t know what I was watching, other than 11 players appearing to all run about into different positions like human etch a sketch - no cohesion, no leadership, no structure or balance. And who on earth thought Jimmy Jeggo is a footballer 😂

scoopyboy
24-01-2024, 10:17 PM
Because there were at least four players worse than him. The worst i would say about Jair was he was quiet. Levitt and our new striker in particular were like two bald men fighting over a tiny comb in that regard.

Thanks for elaborating hibsbollah, it makes it easier to answer.

Maolida had a poor debut but he was unlucky not to score.

Levitt was poor but he put Youan through on goal at 0-0 with a great scissor kick pass.

Two poor performances but at least they got one thing right.

Jair did nothing the whole game, surely our manager could have put McKirdy on for him as Whittaker for Megwa was a waste really. As an old boss of mine used to say, if you do nothing son nobody can accuse you of doing anything wrong.

Stevie Reid
24-01-2024, 10:17 PM
It was probably as bad a debut as I’ve seen from a Hibs player. Certainly one with so much hype.

Very early days but looks like he’s a hell of a lot of adapting to do.

AL-Qaholik
24-01-2024, 10:19 PM
Boy a couple of rows behind me called him “Bojang mark 2”.
Might be harsh on Bojang.
Glad we’re getting players who can “hit the ground running” just like the manager said…

That said, I still hope he comes good - but that was a shocker of a debut.

Real Emerald
24-01-2024, 10:19 PM
Thought Maolida was simply awful tonight - poor spacial awareness, poor first touch, and at times he lost possession he made no effort to chase back, didn’t look up when in possession to see the next pass was either - compounded by missing an absolute sitter which would have got us right back in it.

Jair was the least of our worries tonight, but admittedly he, Levitt, Newell, Lewis, Vente and Youan were all dreadful at various times of the game. In a phrase, they’re all very consistent at being very inconsistent.

Second half with 20 minutes to go I honestly didn’t know what I was watching, other than 11 players appearing to all run about into different positions like human etch a sketch - no cohesion, no leadership, no structure or balance. And who on earth thought Jimmy Jeggo is a footballer 😂

The second half looked the like the Monty Python sketch of the “100 metres for those with no sense of direction” for those old enough to remember it.

scoopyboy
24-01-2024, 10:21 PM
Thought Maolida was simply awful tonight - poor spacial awareness, poor first touch, and at times he lost possession he made no effort to chase back, didn’t look up when in possession to see the next pass was either - compounded by missing an absolute sitter which would have got us right back in it.

Jair was the least of our worries tonight, but admittedly he, Levitt, Newell, Lewis, Vente and Youan were all dreadful at various times of the game. In a phrase, they’re all very consistent at being very inconsistent.

Second half with 20 minutes to go I honestly didn’t know what I was watching, other than 11 players appearing to all run about into different positions like human etch a sketch - no cohesion, no leadership, no structure or balance. And who on earth thought Jimmy Jeggo is a footballer 😂

So did I but my comment was he came the closest to scoring for us, in my opinion it wasn't a sitter.

Youan was dreadful at times but anything of note that Hibs did all night came from him

scoopyboy
24-01-2024, 10:25 PM
Maolida shouldn’t have gave Butland a chance with that shot. But other than that he just genuinely struggled to control and keep the ball.

Jair drew a good save from Butland in the first half and skinned someone before playing a good ball through to Marcondes who had his shot blocked. Jair wasn’t great tonight, but he looked like he’d seen a football before

Ah yes, the one where he was offside!!!!

Mikey_1875
24-01-2024, 10:25 PM
He was certainly guilty of wanting too much time on the ball and didn’t seem to know what his role was at times. He will be in calmer waters against most other teams in the league though and if he has a good attitude he will learn a bit from tonight and hopefully come back firing on Saturday.

tamig
24-01-2024, 10:25 PM
Jair was worse than him tonight and unbelievably got 96 minutes on the park.

This completely rubbish last season to world beater this season is just a figment of peoples imaginations, he's improved this season but is not good enough to play for Hibs.

You’re never shy in getting a dig in at Jair. Don’t know what your issue is. I can’t agree with anything you say about him. Getting better as the season goes on but like a few more, didn’t have his greatest game. Still one of our better performers tonight imo. Joe Newell and Obita the best two for me.

B.H.F.C
24-01-2024, 10:28 PM
I’m with you. Said it during the game, Jair is crap. He’s better than he was last season but that’s hardly a ringing endorsement.

Now the novelty is wearing off, he’s becoming poorer and poorer.

I think he is a viable option in the squad but he shouldn’t be playing every single week. Plus, I think Youan is better on the left and would like him back there.

truehibernian
24-01-2024, 10:28 PM
So did I but my comment was he came the closest to scoring for us, in my opinion it wasn't a sitter.

Youan was dreadful at times but anything of note that Hibs did all night came from him

I agree Scoopy, but Youan is a very selfish player in that he really needs to understand that when he picks up and collects it’s imperative he doesn’t lose possession and put a two man deep midfield under immediate pressure - he’s better running off and in behind and as you say, he created when he did that. To play two in midfield (which essentially it is) gave Rangers the freedom of Easter Road tonight. The Bournemouth lad looks a very classy player, he impressed. The space between our front men and midfield is our constant undoing and when you’re conceding like we do, that ain’t changing until the midfield is sorted and is balanced.

scoopyboy
24-01-2024, 10:38 PM
You’re never shy in getting a dig in at Jair. Don’t know what your issue is. I can’t agree with anything you say about him. Getting better as the season goes on but like a few more, didn’t have his greatest game. Still one of our better performers tonight imo. Joe Newell and Obita the best two for me.

1. How am i never shy in getting a dig in at Jair?

2. I have no issue with any Hibs player, I want them all to be successes, That doesn't mean I have to applaud their every move.

3. You thought he was one of our better performers, no point of me continuing that part of the conversation with you.

4. I think he was getting better as the season went on but I think teams are getting wise to him now and are nullifying him quite easily. Thought he was excellent at Dens Park and his goal was a thing of beauty, the best team goal this season. However I think he needs to do more and better.

Agree wholeheartedly regarding Obita, in fact if we don't have a centre half lined up I would maybe use the funds elsewhere.

NAE NOOKIE
24-01-2024, 10:55 PM
Agree. That performance from Levitt is one of the worst I’ve seen in years.

Having read some of the stuff that has been said about Greg Docherty for having a bad game against Hearts, that was even worse from Levitt.

I cant even bring myself to say Levitt is bad ... that would make it seem like he is worth an opinion. In his 7 or so months here he has shown absolutely nothing to show why a club to whom £300,000 is a substantial transfer fee ... one of the highest we have ever paid ... would have parted with that kind of money for him.

Its not hard to see why a Dundee United team with him in it got relegated.

scoopyboy
24-01-2024, 11:03 PM
I cant even bring myself to say Levitt is bad ... that would make it seem like he is worth an opinion. In his 7 or so months here he has shown absolutely nothing to show why a club to whom £300,000 is a substantial transfer fee ... one of the highest we have ever paid ... would have parted with that kind of money for him.

Its not hard to see why a Dundee United team with him in it got relegated.

I keep thinking he has to be better than what we've seen from him at Hibs, maybe I'm wrong.

Chipper1875
25-01-2024, 07:11 AM
I’m with you. Said it during the game, Jair is crap. He’s better than he was last season but that’s hardly a ringing endorsement.

Jair should be nowhere near a hibs team . Dreadful player. Constantly runs offside and loses possession. Poor fitba brain

Callum_62
25-01-2024, 07:19 AM
Jair should be nowhere near a hibs team . Dreadful player. Constantly runs offside and loses possession. Poor fitba brainI think that's a pretty harsh assessment



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WestStandWillie
25-01-2024, 07:21 AM
Jair was worse than him tonight and unbelievably got 96 minutes on the park.

This completely rubbish last season to world beater this season is just a figment of peoples imaginations, he's improved this season but is not good enough to play for Hibs.

Absolutely nailed on.

He's improved from getting game time but he's badly lacking at this level. When the squad is fully fit Jair returns to fringe player.

Paulie Walnuts
25-01-2024, 07:21 AM
I think that's a pretty harsh assessment



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It is harsh but I would agree he shouldn’t be starting.

He has pretty much no quantifiable output. He doesn’t assist and he doesn’t score. He’s just there, out wide, twisting and turning, beating a man sometimes and not doing much else.

Whilst he’s been a lot better than any of us probably expected, he’s still not good enough to be starting imo. He’s just so blunt.

Callum_62
25-01-2024, 07:23 AM
It is harsh but I would agree he shouldn’t be starting.

He has pretty much no quantifiable output. He doesn’t assist and he doesn’t score. He’s just there, out wide, twisting and turning, beating a man sometimes and not doing much else.

Whilst he’s been a lot better than any of us probably expected, he’s still not good enough to be starting imo. He’s just so blunt.Im more onboard with that than he should be anywhere near a hibs team

Certainly this season he looked like our most likely attacking player in creating something

Even last night he was involved in a high percentage of our chances created

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SHODAN
25-01-2024, 07:26 AM
Some of our fans just really like verbally abusing people huh.

Jones28
25-01-2024, 07:30 AM
I think that's a pretty harsh assessment



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It’s also complete nonsense.

Blaster
25-01-2024, 07:34 AM
We won’t win many games with Jair and Youan both starting. It causes a complete team imbalance

Like others have said Jair has improved from last year but, for me, like Rocky neither are good enough

Smartie
25-01-2024, 07:35 AM
He certainly didn’t play well, but it almost looked to me like the ideal example of how it doesn’t work chucking a brand new signing in straight away.

There was enough about his “chance” to suggest he looked like he knew how to play football (not sure the same could be said about Bojang) but he simply looked a million miles off being fit, sharp, ready or able to play such a big chunk of a game against one of the best sides in the country.

I don’t know if it help him that his Hertha managers comments re laziness have been shared as his card’s marked a bit, and that’s not really fair. But he has to be offering more than that or he’ll be back at Hertha before January is out.

I felt sorry for him rather than pissed off at him.

The Captain....
25-01-2024, 07:42 AM
Quite possibly the worst debut (or even performance actually) ive ever seen from a Hibs player. How he never got hooked at half time i’ll never know.Looked a mile off being ready to play to me. Hard to judge on that basis but initial impressions are he wasn't very impressive and him and Vente didn't look to have any sort of initial chemistry as a front pairing.

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Paulie Walnuts
25-01-2024, 07:43 AM
He certainly didn’t play well, but it almost looked to me like the ideal example of how it doesn’t work chucking a brand new signing in straight away.

There was enough about his “chance” to suggest he looked like he knew how to play football (not sure the same could be said about Bojang) but he simply looked a million miles off being fit, sharp, ready or able to play such a big chunk of a game against one of the best sides in the country.

I don’t know if it help him that his Hertha managers comments re laziness have been shared as his card’s marked a bit, and that’s not really fair. But he has to be offering more than that or he’ll be back at Hertha before January is out.

I felt sorry for him rather than pissed off at him.

Agree. I can’t say I thought he was lazy last night. Poor, no doubt about it, but definitely not lazy. He just didn’t look anywhere near ready to play.

I posted yesterday that for all the hype around the signings, I do think Maolida and Amos are two that expectations need to be tempered a bit. Amos hasn’t had a club for 6 months and Maolida has been playing in the German 4th tier. Emiliano though holds very little concern for me, even before seeing him play, I can’t see any way he won’t be a good player.

Brooster
25-01-2024, 07:43 AM
Genuinely one of the worst shouts on here tonight. He wasn’t great tonight but by no means was he the worst. He’s been one of few bright performers recently

A bright performance recently? You have to be kidding, he's been horrific for weeks. He contributes zero and constantly gives the ball away.

MrRobot
25-01-2024, 08:29 AM
Alright then, tell me one good thing he done in the entire game.

Levitt was poor but early on played a superb through ball to Youan at 0-0.

The debutant was poorer but drew a great save from Butland when it just might have got us back in the game at 1-2.

Jair done sfa

Did Jair not draw a good save from Butland too after taking his man on down the left? :dunno:

BoomtownHibees
25-01-2024, 08:31 AM
Did Jair not draw a good save from Butland too after taking his man on down the left? :dunno:

In the first half?

He was offside

Jones28
25-01-2024, 08:38 AM
Did Jair not draw a good save from Butland too after taking his man on down the left? :dunno:

Yeah but apart from that.

NorthNorfolkHFC
25-01-2024, 08:43 AM
It is harsh but I would agree he shouldn’t be starting.

He has pretty much no quantifiable output. He doesn’t assist and he doesn’t score. He’s just there, out wide, twisting and turning, beating a man sometimes and not doing much else.

Whilst he’s been a lot better than any of us probably expected, he’s still not good enough to be starting imo. He’s just so blunt.

In terms of quantifiable output, hardly any players do.

Vente - no goals, very little hold up play
Levitt - always passes back, loses possession and never shoots

For me, the only quantifiable players are the defenders or goalie.

Paulie Walnuts
25-01-2024, 08:47 AM
In terms of quantifiable output, hardly any players do.

Vente - no goals, very little hold up play
Levitt - always passes back, loses possession and never shoots

For me, the only quantifiable players are the defenders or goalie.

I think those players have also had masses of criticism though.

I look at Youan and Boyle, neither of which have had good seasons and play similar positions to Jair. They offer so much more.

Smartie
25-01-2024, 08:51 AM
In terms of quantifiable output, hardly any players do.

Vente - no goals, very little hold up play
Levitt - always passes back, loses possession and never shoots

For me, the only quantifiable players are the defenders or goalie.

We've got talented attacking players who are currently making more obvious and quantifiable contributions to goals against us than goals for us.

Unseen work
25-01-2024, 08:52 AM
In the first half?

He was offside

I actually think was on but obviously was flagged offside, would have been an interesting var review

Paulie Walnuts
25-01-2024, 08:54 AM
I actually think was on but obviously was flagged offside, would have been an interesting var review

It’s very close but I think he might just be off.

Cropley10
25-01-2024, 09:00 AM
Some of our fans just really like verbally abusing people huh.

100%. Maolida got almost no service, long balls mostly - his one chance was brilliantly saved by the best keeper in this league.

BoomtownHibees
25-01-2024, 09:02 AM
100%. Maolida got almost no service, long balls mostly - his one chance was brilliantly saved by the best keeper in this league.

Nothing to do with service, he looked poor and gave the ball away almost every time he had it. But it was his debut, some folk want to write him off already despite it being far too early to tell how he will turn out

ChuckNor
25-01-2024, 09:11 AM
Genuinely taken aback by some of the comments regarding Jair's recent performances. If you think he is the issue you are sorely mistaken. If our strikers were in the right positions, namely Dylan Vente, Jair would have had far more assists than he has to date. See the Motherwell game where he caused the fullback no end of issues for the first 35 minutes, playing some excellent balls into the box where a striker should have been. I keep seeing people post he has yet to complete an assist, which is nonsense. His dangerous looping ball into the Forfar box caused their keeper to come out erroneously and Doidge to score. We are in the next round because of that ball.

Do I think Jair is outstanding? No. But I do think he is good enough to start and compete for a place in the first 11 at this club. A poor game against Rangers does not change that.

People on this website love to moan. There are also many posters who were proven wrong about Jair never making the grade at this club and don't like to be proven wrong. Leave the online egos aside, he is doing fine and looks likely will develop into a decent contributor for Hibs.

NorthNorfolkHFC
25-01-2024, 09:12 AM
Nothing to do with service, he looked poor and gave the ball away almost every time he had it. But it was his debut, some folk want to write him off already despite it being far too early to tell how he will turn out

Clearly not match fit, very obvious he know what he is doing though. One pass he made was crisp and sharp, and had the vision to see it.

Remember when Obita arrived he looked fairly average, he now looks very fit. Breezes games at FB and cruised at LCB last night.

GRA
25-01-2024, 09:25 AM
Harsh given he's only just in the door. Never got many chances, OK should have scored with his opportunity (still a good save), but writing him off after one performance against title contenders is ludicrous.

hibsbollah
25-01-2024, 09:41 AM
Genuinely taken aback by some of the comments regarding Jair's recent performances. If you think he is the issue you are sorely mistaken. If our strikers were in the right positions, namely Dylan Vente, Jair would have had far more assists than he has to date. See the Motherwell game where he caused the fullback no end of issues for the first 35 minutes, playing some excellent balls into the box where a striker should have been. I keep seeing people post he has yet to complete an assist, which is nonsense. His dangerous looping ball into the Forfar box caused their keeper to come out erroneously and Doidge to score. We are in the next round because of that ball.

Do I think Jair is outstanding? No. But I do think he is good enough to start and compete for a place in the first 11 at this club. A poor game against Rangers does not change that.

People on this website love to moan. There are also many posters who were proven wrong about Jair never making the grade at this club and don't like to be proven wrong. Leave the online egos aside, he is doing fine and looks likely will develop into a decent contributor for Hibs.

Completely agree. I also think theres an element on here that went all in on the ‘Jair is a total/clown imposter’ early on(which to be fair there was a lot of evidence for), got a bit baffled at his rapid improvement under Montgomery where he showed enough to give us hope he was going to be a useful player for us, joined in the praise but are now equally quick to put the boot into him at the first opportunity because it reinforces their original position. The internet tends to do that, makes people more entrenched in their views and less willing to admit everyone gets things wrong sometimes, especially about something as subjective as sporting performance.

Jair, Rocky, Hanlon, Newell have in my opinion been given the pitchfork up the jacksy treatment on here way more than they deserve. I wondered why that is…am i missing something obvious that the angry mob havent? Am i just ‘accepting mediocrity’ as everyone says? Or is there just more need to find individual scapegoats instead of system failures these days? Answers on the proverbial postcard…

Unseen work
25-01-2024, 09:45 AM
Harsh given he's only just in the door. Never got many chances, OK should have scored with his opportunity (still a good save), but writing him off after one performance against title contenders is ludicrous.

I’m far from writing him off.

Don’t know if I there’s were the same but I just just genuine surprised at how poor he was on the ball.

I get not being fit/sharp etc but normally a quality player is still obvious and do one or two things where you go yep he’s a player.

Maybe it was an overconfidence from him thinking he’d be far better than everyone and he was caught out?

Who knows, but we need far better next game.

Pedantic_Hibee
25-01-2024, 09:53 AM
He got caught cold last night but he’ll need time. I suppose it speaks volumes for the other under performing players that NM saw fit to chuck him in when he looked like he hasn’t seen a football for six months.

Spike Mandela
25-01-2024, 10:08 AM
Give the boy a chance. Why do people always rush to judgement?

One mischeivous comment from an ex manager published in the gutter press calling him lazy. Some of the more easily led in our support will have him tagged as lazy for his entire Hibs career no matter what he does now.

Hibees1973
25-01-2024, 11:30 AM
Really don't know what some expect.

His most recent games have been played in the Bundesliga 4th tier. This 7m euros talk was over 6 years ago.

Dismal start to his time at Hibs last night.

Really don't know what is more frustrating. His performance last night or Montgomery's decision to start him.

JimBHibees
25-01-2024, 11:33 AM
Poor debut but no worse than Vente. Weren't given much to play off but when they did get the ball neither was able to do much with it.

Agree

VoltaireHibs
25-01-2024, 11:40 AM
Really don't know what some expect.

His most recent games have been played in the Bundesliga 4th tier. This 7m euros talk was over 6 years ago.

Dismal start to his time at Hibs last night.

Really don't know what is more frustrating. His performance last night or Montgomery's decision to start him.

The fact NM thought he was fit to start is a tad worrying. Unless he decided that minutes were the only way to get him fit. In an earlier interview NM seemed champing at the bit to get him in the team. These are the actions of a manager that's either put of his depth or clutching at straws.

See how the player does over the next handful of games.

Blaster
25-01-2024, 11:43 AM
Maybe starting him last night will help get his fitness up for games we have a chance of winning?

BSEJVT
25-01-2024, 12:00 PM
The fact NM thought he was fit to start is a tad worrying. Unless he decided that minutes were the only way to get him fit. In an earlier interview NM seemed champing at the bit to get him in the team. These are the actions of a manager that's either put of his depth or clutching at straws.

See how the player does over the next handful of games.


Or maybe a manager who has realised that the players on the books are nowhere near good enough and won’t become so and is prepared to give someone else a run to see if they can do better?

Far too early to be making judgements

After 4 years or more of Joe Newell there is no real consensus amongst the support if he is the messiah or just a very naughty boy

Ronniekirk
25-01-2024, 12:05 PM
I don’t like criticising players on their debut but that was really poor.

Maybe sharpness and a big step up in opposition was why but dearie me, I genuinely think he kept the ball twice.

His touch, awareness and passing was poor.

He never gave the impression he was out to prove a point or trying to get rid of the lazy tag.

Also expected him to drop into pockets of space more than he did, he just kind of slowly jogged all over the place. No real pace or aggression shown.

Then obviously he missed a huge chance at a crucial time of the game, funnily enough that’s one I can sort of accept
Totally agree and I just hope he can get better and sharper but I would imagine Monty wasn’t too happy other
He did make up good ground to get on to yo and pass but just hit to where goal keeper has come from and it’s a goal That move showed we can break at pace we just don’t do it enough

degenerated
25-01-2024, 12:08 PM
Alright then, tell me one good thing he done in the entire game.

Levitt was poor but early on played a superb through ball to Youan at 0-0.

The debutant was poorer but drew a great save from Butland when it just might have got us back in the game at 1-2.

Jair done sfa

Jair had a shot that took a decent save from Butland as well, was in the first half.

superfurryhibby
25-01-2024, 12:22 PM
Jair had a shot that took a decent save from Butland as well, was in the first half.

He was offside and the whistle had already gone?

Maolida looked miles off it. Not surprising really.

SickBoy32
25-01-2024, 12:27 PM
Maybe starting him last night will help get his fitness up for games we have a chance of winning?

The bookies gave us a circa 30% chance of a draw last night - never understand this mentality that we simply cannot hope to lay a glove on the OF, bonkers.

Small time mentality IMO

jakeshibs
25-01-2024, 12:45 PM
Quite possibly the worst debut (or even performance actually) ive ever seen from a Hibs player. How he never got hooked at half time i’ll never know.

poor post slating our own players, get behind him

Cropley10
25-01-2024, 01:01 PM
Quite possibly the worst debut (or even performance actually) ive ever seen from a Hibs player. How he never got hooked at half time i’ll never know.

Then you can't have seen many debuts or performances then.

overdrive
25-01-2024, 01:16 PM
Or maybe a manager who has realised that the players on the books are nowhere near good enough and won’t become so and is prepared to give someone else a run to see if they can do better?

Far too early to be making judgements

After 4 years or more of Joe Newell there is no real consensus amongst the support if he is the messiah or just a very naughty boy

Or a manager that hasn't got to grips yet with what players will work in our league. For all of LJ's faults, something seemed to click in January last year with him and he recognised what sort of player would work. Hopefully it clicks soon with NM.

Lago
25-01-2024, 01:27 PM
Well that must be one of the shortest welcome to Hibs for a new recruit. The excitement of signing him didn't last long. Way to go guys.

JimBHibees
25-01-2024, 01:28 PM
Well that must be one of the shortest welcome to Hibs for a new recruit. The excitement of signing him didn't last long. Way to go guys.

Yep absolute appalling welcome. Clearly the guy needs to get up to speed however clearly has ability.

B.H.F.C
25-01-2024, 01:30 PM
Yep absolute appalling welcome. Clearly the guy needs to get up to speed however clearly has ability.

I’m no saying he doesn’t have any ability but he didn’t show it last night. He was awful. I didn’t think it was a huge surprise that he was off the pace.

jeffers
25-01-2024, 01:34 PM
It’s a very weird take imo. He looked like he wanted far more time on the ball than he will get in Scotland but I’ve seen far worse debuts than his last night.

It’s only anecdotal and from one player but I was told he’d impressed that said player in training. He clearly has something about him, though the hit his parent club are taking on his wages is a definite concern. It’s up to him whether he knuckles down with us or he’s another Feruz.

AlbertK86
25-01-2024, 01:40 PM
Jair was worse than him tonight and unbelievably got 96 minutes on the park.

This completely rubbish last season to world beater this season is just a figment of peoples imaginations, he's improved this season but is not good enough to play for Hibs.

Agree on both major points


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basehibby
25-01-2024, 01:41 PM
Not a great debut but the OP is hysterical to the point of ridiculousness. Maolida was unlucky not to score - denied by an excellent save - but other than that he was kept pretty quiet and not much came off for him. Have seen much MUCH worse debuts than that though - Shefi Kuqui and Ed Van De Graff both spring to mind.

Give the guy a chance FFS!

Lago
25-01-2024, 02:01 PM
Not a great debut but the OP is hysterical to the point of ridiculousness. Maolida was unlucky not to score - denied by an excellent save - but other than that he was kept pretty quiet and not much came off for him. Have seen much MUCH worse debuts than that though - Shefi Kuqui and Ed Van De Graff both spring to mind.

Give the guy a chance FFS!
He's probably thanking his lucky stars that it's only a loan signing till the end of the season, especially if he's silly enough to read some of the expert assessments on here.

truehibernian
25-01-2024, 02:25 PM
Not a great debut but the OP is hysterical to the point of ridiculousness. Maolida was unlucky not to score - denied by an excellent save - but other than that he was kept pretty quiet and not much came off for him. Have seen much MUCH worse debuts than that though - Shefi Kuqui and Ed Van De Graff both spring to mind.

Give the guy a chance FFS!

Eh ? Did Eddy not score two on his debut which was a Euro qualifier ?

greenlex
25-01-2024, 02:50 PM
Eh ? Did Eddy not score two on his debut which was a Euro qualifier ?

Apart from that it was *****.

Hibiza
25-01-2024, 02:56 PM
When Old Firm managers say that playing us is welcomed ( similar ) because of our expansive game , time to change it a bit ???

SHODAN
25-01-2024, 02:58 PM
100%. Maolida got almost no service, long balls mostly - his one chance was brilliantly saved by the best keeper in this league.

Even if he actually had been the worst player ever it's still pathetic. The guy is trying to do his ****ing best, it's not like he turned up and work and went "I'm going to be pish today". We're not in high school any more.

Cropley10
25-01-2024, 03:16 PM
Not a great debut but the OP is hysterical to the point of ridiculousness. Maolida was unlucky not to score - denied by an excellent save - but other than that he was kept pretty quiet and not much came off for him. Have seen much MUCH worse debuts than that though - Shefi Kuqui and Ed Van De Graff both spring to mind.

Give the guy a chance FFS!

Was Kuqui the full back described by some as looking like he was wearing 'concrete boots'? Or was that someone else, I think in the Pat Fenlon or could have been Calderwood days?

Jones28
25-01-2024, 03:23 PM
Was Kuqui the full back described by some as looking like he was wearing 'concrete boots'? Or was that someone else, I think in the Pat Fenlon or could have been Calderwood days?

Think that was Zarabi.

jeffers
25-01-2024, 03:25 PM
Was Kuqui the full back described by some as looking like he was wearing 'concrete boots'? Or was that someone else, I think in the Pat Fenlon or could have been Calderwood days?

He was a striker. Pretty good one at that. Until he joined us.

Gettin' Auld
25-01-2024, 03:38 PM
Was Kuqui the full back described by some as looking like he was wearing 'concrete boots'? Or was that someone else, I think in the Pat Fenlon or could have been Calderwood days?
Kuqi was a striker.........apparently.

JimBHibees
25-01-2024, 04:39 PM
Was Kuqui the full back described by some as looking like he was wearing 'concrete boots'? Or was that someone else, I think in the Pat Fenlon or could have been Calderwood days?

Kujabi?

GreenPJ
25-01-2024, 05:09 PM
Kujabi?

Wouldn't ever accuse Kujabi of having concrete boots - accuse him of other things but he wasn't slow

Davy Mac
25-01-2024, 05:24 PM
The bookies gave us a circa 30% chance of a draw last night - never understand this mentality that we simply cannot hope to lay a glove on the OF, bonkers.

Small time mentality IMO

Agreed, but Monty needs to consider the stats too, and to go with this formation against a confident 433 from a team who i think might pip Celtic this season was madness.

It was like Monty is trying to make a point, but he shouldn't play roulette with our club and get some points on the board as we look like relegation fodder at the moment.

Callum_62
25-01-2024, 05:34 PM
My memories not the best but surely Yogi Hughes had a worse debut?

A sending off at Rugby park no?

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hibsbollah
25-01-2024, 05:36 PM
Wouldn't ever accuse Kujabi of having concrete boots - accuse him of other things but he wasn't slow

Zarabi, ‘the mummy’ was the concrete boots guy.

The Modfather
25-01-2024, 05:41 PM
Zarabi, ‘the mummy’ was the concrete boots guy.

Not sure if it was his debut but I remember seeing him for the first time in a cup game at Ibrox. He genuinely looked like a fan plucked from the stands.

Sure we lost 1-0 (maybe 2-0) and there was a bizarre period where someone went off with a head knock/cut and we played 10 minutes or so with 10 men rather than make a sub. Sure we conceded during that period as well.

SHODAN
25-01-2024, 06:58 PM
Zarabi, ‘the mummy’ was the concrete boots guy.

My prevailing memory of Zarabi is that he would almost always play a long ball down the line immediately after he gained possession.

SHODAN
27-01-2024, 03:48 PM
I look forward to all the revised opinions on this thread now. Come along, don't be shy.

LaMotta
27-01-2024, 03:50 PM
He's gone from hopeless debut to an unbelievably good second game. Sensational performance.

LaMotta
27-01-2024, 03:51 PM
I look forward to all the revised opinions on this thread now. Come along, don't be shy.

To be fair as good as he has been today that doesn't change how pish he was on Wednesday:greengrin

SHODAN
27-01-2024, 03:52 PM
To be fair as good as he has been today that doesn't change how pish he was on Wednesday:greengrin

Which is why the initial post, judging a player on one appearance, was ridiculous. Now he's had one good and one bad it's only rational that opinions will change to fit too.

LaMotta
27-01-2024, 03:55 PM
Which is why the initial post, judging a player on one appearance, was ridiculous. Now he's had one good and one bad it's only rational that opinions will change to fit too.

Tbh the initial post wasn't judging him on anything other than Wednesday night so not entirely inaccurate....

7Hero
27-01-2024, 04:00 PM
The guy who brought this post up again, honestly have a word with yourself..

LaMotta
27-01-2024, 04:02 PM
The guy who brought this post up again, honestly have a word with yourself..

Why? Its praising him for being tremendous.

04Sauzee
27-01-2024, 04:14 PM
The guy who brought this post up again, honestly have a word with yourself..

Why? We have threads for other players.

jeffers
27-01-2024, 04:17 PM
Nothing to do with Wednesday cos I didn’t think he was a bad as some suggested, but I did worry he would come to us and not give a damn. Thought he did really well today.

SaulGoodman
27-01-2024, 04:18 PM
The guy who brought this post up again, honestly have a word with yourself..

Threads only alright if they’re slagging players is that it?

neil7908
27-01-2024, 04:19 PM
Threads only alright if they’re slagging players is that it?

No, name calling is also acceptable. Praise not so much.

JohnM1875
27-01-2024, 04:20 PM
Was excellent when he came on. Changed the game really. Chuffed he got the goal as well and unlucky not to have an assist for the Jair chance.

He'll no doubt start against St Mirren

bingo70
27-01-2024, 04:20 PM
Nothing to do with Wednesday cos I didn’t think he was a bad as some suggested, but I did worry he would come to us and not give a damn. Thought he did really well today.

He was nowhere near as bad as some suggested on Wednesday.

04Sauzee
27-01-2024, 04:21 PM
He was nowhere near as bad as some suggested on Wednesday.

He really wasn't

Dashing Bob S
27-01-2024, 04:21 PM
Post criticizing bad performances are fair game, but give a player a few starts under his belt first ffs

The Modfather
27-01-2024, 04:21 PM
Vente should be dropped for Maolida IMO.

jeffers
27-01-2024, 04:22 PM
He was nowhere near as bad as some suggested on Wednesday.

Yup I agree. He looked like a player who expected to get more time on the ball than you get in Scotland.

Callum_62
27-01-2024, 04:23 PM
What i like about him is his physicality

He looksstrong but also so quick, especially over a few yards

Looked a level above when he came on today to be honest

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B.H.F.C
27-01-2024, 04:51 PM
Superb when he came on. The two new boys offer some hope. Pretty confident we’ll start scoring more, it’s whether we can keep them out.

Billy Whizz
27-01-2024, 05:14 PM
Played really well when he came in and scored an excellent goal
Looks more likely to succeed wide left

Hibee Mac
27-01-2024, 05:16 PM
He changed the game when he was introduced, well done Maolida. Can't decide if he was playing up front or out wide but whatever it was let's do that from the start on Sat.

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bingo70
27-01-2024, 05:21 PM
He changed the game when he was introduced, well done Maolida. Can't decide if he was playing up front or out wide but whatever it was let's do that from the start on Sat.

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Until he’s fit, it may be that he offers more coming off the bench.

tamig
27-01-2024, 05:37 PM
He was nowhere near as bad as some suggested on Wednesday.

The comments on Wednesday were atrocious - but not unexpected based on the usual stuff that appears on here nowadays. Glad he was able to shut some of his doubters up.

JimBHibees
27-01-2024, 05:46 PM
Post criticizing bad performances are fair game, but give a player a few starts under his belt first ffs

Totally agree alot of posters should be eating humble pie

ChuckNor
27-01-2024, 05:50 PM
Outstanding cameo today. Came on and took the game by the scruff of the neck. Excellent finish as well. Exciting.

Dashing Bob S
27-01-2024, 05:53 PM
Not sure if it was his debut but I remember seeing him for the first time in a cup game at Ibrox. He genuinely looked like a fan plucked from the stands.

Sure we lost 1-0 (maybe 2-0) and there was a bizarre period where someone went off with a head knock/cut and we played 10 minutes or so with 10 men rather than make a sub. Sure we conceded during that period as well.

Sadly, a Rangers one.

truehibernian
27-01-2024, 06:01 PM
Totally agree alot of posters should be eating humble pie

I’ll eat some Jim, but on Wednesday evening it was an awful debut - if he gets up to speed and we get 90 minutes like the showing today then yep, we have a player on our hands 👍 I was just bitterly disappointed on Wednesday after the exciting build up of him. Here’s hoping he builds on today bud, much much better and goals lift players levels.

Unseen work
27-01-2024, 06:10 PM
Happy to eat humble pie, even before today.

I felt like I was very critical for my own standards of a players performance.

I’m a sad individual though and tend to watch games back for either analysis/job purposes and sometimes just enjoyment. When I watched it back I actually cringed at just how critical I was, he wasn’t nearly as bad as I thought.

It shows how in the midst of a game, high pressure etc your judgement can’t get clouded and you get carried away.

Apologises Myziane, brilliant goal today.

2 more and you’ve matched Vente in the league

Mikey_1875
27-01-2024, 06:48 PM
Penny dropped quickly for him that you aren’t going to get a lot of time on the ball in this league. Looked sharp, tricky and a nice goal. Possibly better coming in from the wing rather than up front even if he doesn’t agree with it himself?

HendoDelivered
27-01-2024, 06:53 PM
Penny dropped quickly for him that you aren’t going to get a lot of time on the ball in this league. Looked sharp, tricky and a nice goal. Possibly better coming in from the wing rather than up front even if he doesn’t agree with it himself?

Definitely :agree:

LewysGot2
27-01-2024, 07:29 PM
Really feel positive about him. Definitely impacted the game in a big way.

LaMotta
27-01-2024, 07:35 PM
Totally agree alot of posters should be eating humble pie


Happy to eat humble pie, even before today.

I felt like I was very critical for my own standards of a players performance.

I’m a sad individual though and tend to watch games back for either analysis/job purposes and sometimes just enjoyment. When I watched it back I actually cringed at just how critical I was, he wasn’t nearly as bad as I thought.

It shows how in the midst of a game, high pressure etc your judgement can’t get clouded and you get carried away.

Apologises Myziane, brilliant goal today.

2 more and you’ve matched Vente in the league

Nobody should eat humble pie - he was pish on Wednesday and brilliant today. That happens. I didn't read anyone writing him off after Wednesday just people commenting correctly on a poor debut. If he plays like he did today he will be a Hibs hero.

Brightside
27-01-2024, 07:47 PM
I think we will see a lot of up and down from him. Looks like a player who has struggled with confidence. He could be brilliant but who knows. At least we know Monty will give him a chance.

Torto7
27-01-2024, 08:11 PM
Last game he wasn't even that bad but the usual drama queens were laying right into him. Too many greeting faced fuds in our support.

hibsbollah
27-01-2024, 08:12 PM
Looked a good save from where i was but a quality striker should bury that and not give the keeper a chance to even get near it.

Im not writing him off though.

Well done, sir :greengrin. Someone really needs to bring a Comoros 🇰🇲 flag ti the next game.

LaMotta
27-01-2024, 08:19 PM
Well done, sir :greengrin. Someone really needs to bring a Comoros 🇰🇲 flag ti the next game.

Nobody wrote him off on Wednesday....

JimBHibees
27-01-2024, 08:21 PM
I’ll eat some Jim, but on Wednesday evening it was an awful debut - if he gets up to speed and we get 90 minutes like the showing today then yep, we have a player on our hands 👍 I was just bitterly disappointed on Wednesday after the exciting build up of him. Here’s hoping he builds on today bud, much much better and goals lift players levels.

Didn't think it was that bad Wednesday and surely some context in that it was his first game.

hibsbollah
27-01-2024, 08:25 PM
Nobody wrote him off on Wednesday....

:agree: im sure he himself felt he had a rubbish game on Wednesday. And he did. It happens.

Malonga's Cat
27-01-2024, 08:33 PM
Looked better after a sluggish start on Wed (certainly wasn't as bad as some are making out). He helped to change the game today and the goal will have helped his confidence.

JimBHibees
27-01-2024, 09:31 PM
His run for Emilianos shot keeper saved second half was sensational

007
27-01-2024, 09:45 PM
Looked better after a sluggish start on Wed (certainly wasn't as bad as some are making out). He helped to change the game today and the goal will have helped his confidence.

When I got home on Wednesday and came on here I was surprised at how much stick he was getting. I thought he looked rusty, which was understandable. Looking forward to next Saturday where hopefully Maolida and Emiliano both start.

MikeyS
27-01-2024, 09:49 PM
Nobody should eat humble pie - he was pish on Wednesday and brilliant today. That happens. I didn't read anyone writing him off after Wednesday just people commenting correctly on a poor debut. If he plays like he did today he will be a Hibs hero.

Totally agree, he was way off the pace and all those who commented so where well within their rights to do so based on what the saw for themselves.

the poster who regurgitated this from Wednesday never misses an " I told you so" moment or an opportunity to come across all high and mighty.

Keepthefaith
27-01-2024, 09:49 PM
Nobody should eat humble pie - he was pish on Wednesday and brilliant today. That happens. I didn't read anyone writing him off after Wednesday just people commenting correctly on a poor debut. If he plays like he did today he will be a Hibs hero.

I disagree and appreciate the OP stating this. Folk were overly critical and slating Monty for getting a player in who was unfit/ playing lower league football in Germany. It's also important for folk to read a post like this so that maybe in future we can give the new players a wee bit of time and understanding before we pass judgement.

Bravo to the OP. I hope more have the same level of self awareness!

matty_f
27-01-2024, 09:52 PM
I thought he looked terrific today.

truehibernian
27-01-2024, 09:57 PM
Didn't think it was that bad Wednesday and surely some context in that it was his first game.

For me there’s no context - he’s a £10 million player that couldn’t pass and couldn’t control - I think people were right to critique a very very poor debut. His basics on Wednesday were way way below what you’d expect. Doesn’t matter what league or even if you’ve had a lay off in games - the ability to control a ball, have awareness, see a man - sorry but it was a terrible debut for me. He’s played at a very high level, hence the expectation level is obviously going to be high and rightly so.

BILLYHIBS
27-01-2024, 10:07 PM
Wednesday he should have had an excellent assist for a sublime ball through to Youan who dithered and the chance was lost and a goal just after half time by blasting the ball high into Butland’s unguarded net not giving him an earthly but that is football and he more than made up for it today with a superb strike

Onwards and upwards

B.H.F.C
27-01-2024, 10:09 PM
For me there’s no context - he’s a £10 million player that couldn’t pass and couldn’t control - I think people were right to critique a very very poor debut. His basics on Wednesday were way way below what you’d expect. Doesn’t matter what league or even if you’ve had a lay off in games - the ability to control a ball, have awareness, see a man - sorry but it was a terrible debut for me. He’s played at a very high level, hence the expectation level is obviously going to be high and rightly so.

Think it’s worth noting the positional change from Wednesday as well. I thought he was crap on Wednesday and didn’t do the basics but he also had his back to goal a lot. Much better from wide today.

Stuart93
27-01-2024, 10:19 PM
For me there’s no context - he’s a £10 million player that couldn’t pass and couldn’t control - I think people were right to critique a very very poor debut. His basics on Wednesday were way way below what you’d expect. Doesn’t matter what league or even if you’ve had a lay off in games - the ability to control a ball, have awareness, see a man - sorry but it was a terrible debut for me. He’s played at a very high level, hence the expectation level is obviously going to be high and rightly so.

But was a lot better today though?

LaMotta
27-01-2024, 10:31 PM
I disagree and appreciate the OP stating this. Folk were overly critical and slating Monty for getting a player in who was unfit/ playing lower league football in Germany. It's also important for folk to read a post like this so that maybe in future we can give the new players a wee bit of time and understanding before we pass judgement.

Bravo to the OP. I hope more have the same level of self awareness!

Nobody was slating Monty for buying a lower leage German footballer. People said he was **** on Wednesday and he was! Ffs theres nothing wrong with that cos it was true. The original poster has taken some stick but he was right!

And yes he was class today.

hibsbollah
29-01-2024, 11:20 AM
Think it’s worth noting the positional change from Wednesday as well. I thought he was crap on Wednesday and didn’t do the basics but he also had his back to goal a lot. Much better from wide today.

Although interesting that he himself says he prefers to play centrally.

Donegal Hibby
29-01-2024, 11:45 AM
Although interesting that he himself says he prefers to play centrally.

Didn't look nearly as good playing central as he did on the left wing though was his first game and big difference between playing sevco and Killie too . Article here on the game with a wee bit mentioning Maolida.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/green-shoots-in-attack-and-a-crime-scene-at-the-back-hibs-talking-points-4495480

Brightside
29-01-2024, 11:52 AM
Will be interesting to see how he gets on when asked to do the defensive side. On Saturday he was giving plenty freedom to just push up. Thats going leave plenty gaps - unless of course they put him upfront and give Vente a rest? Lots of potential changes.

Northernhibee
29-01-2024, 12:13 PM
The goal was a thing of beauty. Nice movement and control, caught the two defenders out and bought himself a yard of space, lovely finish. Both defenders on their backsides.

You could pretty much see the panic in the Killie back line every time he ran at them.

BILLYHIBS
29-01-2024, 12:20 PM
His goal against Celtic for Lyon at Darkheid in a 4-0 win on his VT beating half their team was just sublime

More of the same please


https://youtu.be/JQfkz4tyaok?si=RqDGVLqlp4hAbzMl

Steve20
29-01-2024, 12:23 PM
Too many greeting faced fuds in our support.

Season going well in your opinion then?

WhileTheChief..
29-01-2024, 12:25 PM
Totally agree, he was way off the pace and all those who commented so where well within their rights to do so based on what the saw for themselves.

the poster who regurgitated this from Wednesday never misses an " I told you so" moment or an opportunity to come across all high and mighty.

:top marks

Torto7
30-01-2024, 12:44 AM
I wonder how he will use him next game. The system at the end had Emiliano deeper and starting moves which he excelled at as he's class with Doidge and Maolida causing chaos with their height.

Iain G
30-01-2024, 06:15 AM
Nobody wrote him off on Wednesday....

He was being compared to Bojang! If that's not writing a player off I dunno what is 🤣

LaMotta
30-01-2024, 06:53 AM
He was being compared to Bojang! If that's not writing a player off I dunno what is 🤣

Hadn't seen that, not on this thread anyway.

Surely thats a compliment anyway?! :greengrin

BoomtownHibees
30-01-2024, 07:09 AM
I wonder how he will use him next game. The system at the end had Emiliano deeper and starting moves which he excelled at as he's class with Doidge and Maolida causing chaos with their height.

Not sure their height really troubled them other than the Doidge sitter at the end. Maolida was tremendous with the ball at his feet, facing up the defender and going past him pretty much every time he had the ball

Mcbizz1998
30-01-2024, 07:11 AM
Last game he wasn't even that bad but the usual drama queens were laying right into him. Too many greeting faced fuds in our support.

Nah he was absolutely stinking on his debut. Doesn’t matter though as he would always need time to settle in. Looks like we have a player on our hands!

The Modfather
24-02-2024, 04:47 PM
Is there any hope to get him back next season? Probably on loan again. His physicality and link up play must make him a joy to play with.

HendoDelivered
24-02-2024, 04:48 PM
What a player

hibsbollah
24-02-2024, 04:49 PM
Dreamboat.

skyehibee
24-02-2024, 04:50 PM
Proved me wrong as thought he was useless that first game against rangers but he’s looked immense, best player on the park and looks a class above.

Sparrows tongue
24-02-2024, 04:53 PM
I love him!

He could take Hearts to the cleaners on Wednesday.

:flag:

Sparrows tongue
24-02-2024, 04:54 PM
Dreamboat.

A step too far for me!

:greengrin

jakedance
24-02-2024, 04:55 PM
I thought he was a class above today. Strong, intelligent and skillful.

SHODAN
24-02-2024, 04:56 PM
He is very good.

Northernhibee
24-02-2024, 05:01 PM
He’s levels above this league.

HIBS NUTS
24-02-2024, 05:14 PM
Favourite goal of the season, so composed, considering his move started on the left wing .
Loved the finish.

bod
24-02-2024, 05:16 PM
Would love to have him here next season

Carheenlea
24-02-2024, 05:18 PM
Going out on a limb, I think he’s maybe one of the best forwards I’ve seen in my time watching Hibs.

It’ll be short lived, but it’s clear he is at a different level altogether. A wonderful footballer.

Allant1981
24-02-2024, 05:18 PM
Just seems to be a lot more assured on the ball than others, good to see us signing class like this even if it is just on loan. Hopefully a sign of things to come

Springbank
24-02-2024, 05:21 PM
Wednesday could be The Maolida Derby

Smartie
24-02-2024, 05:26 PM
There were times when he looked like he was playing at a level of a few age groups down, such was his physical superiority to some opposition players at times.

I reckon he’s going to be a true “enjoy him whilst he’s here” player, sadly.

Superb today though and deservedly motm.

Hibernian Verse
24-02-2024, 05:34 PM
There were times when he looked like he was playing at a level of a few age groups down, such was his physical superiority to some opposition players at times.

I reckon he’s going to be a true “enjoy him whilst he’s here” player, sadly.

Superb today though and deservedly motm.

You could see Shaughnessy **** himself every time Maolida got the ball. Same again against Atkinson on Wednesday please.

.Sean.
24-02-2024, 05:35 PM
I wonder if there’s even the slightest opportunity we could have him next season

BoomtownHibees
24-02-2024, 05:36 PM
I wonder if there’s even the slightest opportunity we could have him next season

No if HSL have a say

#jokes

brydekirk
24-02-2024, 05:38 PM
Follow myleader

LEaston87
24-02-2024, 05:38 PM
Thierry Henry regen

hibsbollah
24-02-2024, 05:43 PM
A step too far for me!

:greengrin

Thats cool.

I wont have to fight you for him then :greengrin
Seriously, though, hes just class.

Irish_Steve
24-02-2024, 05:58 PM
I'd sell Youan and use the funds to buy Maolida - he looked class today, a real handful

JammyDoidger
24-02-2024, 05:59 PM
He's got the quality like. Still feel like he isn't even trying anywhere near as hard as he could aswell.

Fergos
24-02-2024, 06:07 PM
2 goals and an assist in the short time hes been here. Quality operator

Northernhibee
24-02-2024, 06:20 PM
I wonder if there’s even the slightest opportunity we could have him next season

I’m setting myself up for disappointment, even if he does stay he won’t be here for long at all.

joe breezy
24-02-2024, 06:22 PM
Will be sorry to see him go.
Hopefully he will come back to Hibs one day.
Maybe in a coaching role?

MWHIBBIES
24-02-2024, 06:24 PM
I wonder if there’s even the slightest opportunity we could have him next season

Will be a host of bigger clubs than us after him.

SeanWilson
24-02-2024, 06:27 PM
Funny thing is, his debut was atrocious. He’s absolutely ridiculous.

AFKA5814_Hibs
24-02-2024, 06:31 PM
Baller. The guy was sold for €10m a few years back so obviously a right player there. Looks like he'll be out of contract at the end of next season (summer 2025) so unlikely that Hertha would send him out on loan again for a player they paid €4m for.

Real Emerald
24-02-2024, 06:33 PM
Had a great game today, the difference he makes up front is huge and does great tracking back too. Wish we could keep him.

JimBHibees
24-02-2024, 06:55 PM
The winning goal was a thing of absolute beauty

Stevie Reid
24-02-2024, 06:59 PM
Excellent today. Couldn’t believe that he cut back in after the goal had opened up for him on his right, but it was a tidy finish, to a superb team goal.

Only the second time I’ve seen him in the flesh, and the Rangers game was an inauspicious start. Was struck by how quick and strong he is - pretty skilful too.

Hope we stick with him and Boyle out wide and Dylan through the middle.

Gruff
24-02-2024, 07:08 PM
Maybe Bournemouth could buy him, well within their financial range and loan him back to us for another season. :wink:
Maolida won't be daft and knows there is now a link to the EPL through Hibs, keeps playing like he is and clubs will pick up.
Hertha are facing another season in 2 Bundesliga, so i guess would be easy to deal with,
very much wishful thinking, but he is waaaay above most of the players talent level up here and i'll enjoy watching him for as long as hes here

AL-Qaholik
24-02-2024, 07:16 PM
Awful debut. Incredible player.
What a difference he makes.

Scotty Leither
24-02-2024, 07:30 PM
At long last, a guy with a bit of heft and presence up front that we’ve been needing for ages. Hope he keeps it up.

Ronniekirk
24-02-2024, 07:35 PM
Had a great game today, the difference he makes up front is huge and does great tracking back too. Wish we could keep him.
For a player who was called Lazy , he has certainly proved that's not correct ( although debut had me worried )

Paul1642
24-02-2024, 07:41 PM
Why can’t he be back. He clearly had no future at Hertha and we’re going to have money to spend in the summer. If he’s in our price range we should be going all out for him.

Also hilarious looking back at page 1 of the great. Hibs.net knee jerking at its best.

wookie70
24-02-2024, 07:42 PM
Had a great game today and a superb bit of skill and finish for the goal. Thought he took up some great positions to give us an out ball which really helped our tempo and stopped the stupid passing about the back. He is also quick despite looking like he is very slow when running.

04Sauzee
24-02-2024, 07:44 PM
Why can’t he be back. He clearly had no future at Hertha and we’re going to have money to spend in the summer. If he’s in our price range we should be going all out for him.

Also hilarious looking back at page 1 of the great. Hibs.net knee jerking at its best.


Guess it comes down to the fee his club would want, probably more than welcome can afford

His wage demands, probably more than we can afford.

The calibre of clubs who may be looking at him in the summer window.

Northernhibee
24-02-2024, 07:47 PM
I think the issue is that given we’ll have loans end for Marcondes, him, Fish, Mayenda, and Triantis and also see the contracts of Hanlon, Stevenson, Marshall, and Le Fondre end.

If we only had two or three places to strengthen then we may break the bank on him. As it is we will need to cut quite a lot of players and will have to make the finances go quite some way.

bingo70
24-02-2024, 07:53 PM
He wasn’t as bad on his debut as people made out.

LaMotta
24-02-2024, 07:54 PM
He wasn’t as bad on his debut as people made out.

I think he was. But he has been brilliant since, which is all that matters.

BoomtownHibees
24-02-2024, 08:18 PM
He wasn’t as bad on his debut as people made out.

He was

Hibby Bairn
24-02-2024, 08:29 PM
Maybe Bournemouth could buy him, well within their financial range and loan him back to us for another season. :wink:
Maolida won't be daft and knows there is now a link to the EPL through Hibs, keeps playing like he is and clubs will pick up.
Hertha are facing another season in 2 Bundesliga, so i guess would be easy to deal with,
very much wishful thinking, but he is waaaay above most of the players talent level up here and i'll enjoy watching him for as long as hes here

Good points.

matty_f
24-02-2024, 08:32 PM
He wasn’t as bad on his debut as people made out.

I thought he looked like a guy that had win a competition in his first game with us, he looked miles off it.

He's definitely improved with game time and fitness and he looks now like we've won a competition to get him.

LaMotta
24-02-2024, 08:46 PM
I thought he looked like a guy that had win a competition in his first game with us, he looked miles off it.

He's definitely improved with game time and fitness and he looks now like we've won a competition to get him.

:agree:

Maolida and Marcondes are able to control the ball in a way that I haven't seen from a Hibs player since Latapy. A level above.

Libby Hibby
24-02-2024, 08:51 PM
He wasn’t as bad on his debut as people made out.

Correct.

Sparrows tongue
24-02-2024, 08:58 PM
He wasn’t as bad on his debut as people made out.

:confused:

He was absolutely dreadful on his debut.

CB Hibs 68
24-02-2024, 09:12 PM
So let’s all debate how bad he was against Rangers.Honestly.Baffles me that folk are even talking about his debut.Lets just acknowledge that he is a level a what we are used to .

Hibeesdaft16
24-02-2024, 09:18 PM
He's a tremendous footballer, must be a confidence player and he's certainly full of that atm. Enjoy the player while he's here.

LaMotta
24-02-2024, 09:24 PM
So let’s all debate how bad he was against Rangers.Honestly.Baffles me that folk are even talking about his debut.Lets just acknowledge that he is a level a what we are used to .

We are talking about it because someone claimed that people saying he had a bad debut were wrong. No one would be talking about his debut tonight if it wasn't for that. People are correctly pointing out that just because he has been excellent since then doesn't take away from the fact he had a rotten debut.

Greensunshine
24-02-2024, 09:48 PM
Different class. No chance of him being here next season I’m afraid.

Outstanding performance today

Stairway 2 7
24-02-2024, 10:11 PM
He's fantastic. Hertha will want money though. Perhaps uncle Bill will allow. I've heard from those who do know that the plans for players we are looking at this summer are very exciting.

More confident they know the way Robb is voting. Thankfully as the atmosphere about the hsl vote was heated from what I heard in the Hibs club today

JohnM1875
24-02-2024, 10:21 PM
He’s so quite clearly a class above and it’s brilliant to watch. What a player. I include the uglies in that as well by the way. He’s better than both them.

Come a long way from the debut against the Huns where he clearly wasn’t fit.

LaMotta
24-02-2024, 11:00 PM
Watching Sportscene highlights and Atkinson looking ropey for Hearts at right back v Huns. Maolida could give him a very hard time on Wed.

Kye Rowles also horrendous. If Boyle and Maolida are at it we will cause them problems.

CentreForward
24-02-2024, 11:57 PM
We certainly need to enjoy Maolida while we can. No doubt that he’s a Premiership level player. Hopefully we’ll see more of those next season, though sadly probably not him.

green day
25-02-2024, 06:36 AM
Maolida and Marcondes are able to control the ball in a way that I haven't seen from a Hibs player since Latapy. A level above.

Maolida has loads going for him, he is strong, has great feet, looks languid but is really quick - and picks out great positions.

Marcondes yesterday did two things which were great to watch.

Throw in at the south end of the West, he asked for it to go to a specific point and heeled it to Boyle. Nothing came of it, but it was beautiful.

Corner in same area, he played the ball right onto Fish head. Either side of the keeper it was a goal. I dont think it was coincidence, he held up 5 fingers before the corner was taken, he actually meant it to go to Fish. The guy is a baller.

mcohibs
25-02-2024, 06:50 AM
Maolida has loads going for him, he is strong, has great feet, looks languid but is really quick - and picks out great positions.

Marcondes yesterday did two things which were great to watch.

Throw in at the south end of the West, he asked for it to go to a specific point and heeled it to Boyle. Nothing came of it, but it was beautiful.

Corner in same area, he played the ball right onto Fish head. Either side of the keeper it was a goal. I dont think it was coincidence, he held up 5 fingers before the corner was taken, he actually meant it to go to Fish. The guy is a baller.

Yeah he’s excellent. Only thing I didn’t like was he seemed to be debating with Vente as to who should hit the penalty? Always think things like that are a bit of a distraction. Unless it was a ploy of course

Crunchie
25-02-2024, 06:54 AM
He wasn’t as bad on his debut as people made out.
:agree:

BILLYHIBS
25-02-2024, 06:56 AM
Yeah he’s excellent. Only thing I didn’t like was he seemed to be debating with Vente as to who should hit the penalty? Always think things like that are a bit of a distraction. Unless it was a ploy of course

Yip didn’t like that either it was Vente’s turn to take a pen he is our striker and needed a goal for his confidence

He can keep taking them until he misses :greengrin

Springbank
25-02-2024, 07:35 AM
If I was in the coaching staff I'd be looking to catch hearts stone cold on Wednesday

Get the ball quickly out to maolida (one touch passing, no time for any more) get him taking atkinson backwards & into his own box

Hearts at 1-0 down are a burst balloon of a team, compared to what they've been lucky to be recently (a poor team that gets 1-0 up out of individual moments)

If they have to come at us & leave space, our pace can kill them

WestStandWillie
25-02-2024, 10:23 AM
I’d love to see a statement of intent from the club and actually going to Hertha and buying Myziane outright.

The sort of player that gets the fans off the seats.

Mikey_1875
25-02-2024, 10:29 AM
Top class player. Holds the ball up, wins fouls, goes past players effortlessly, goals and assists. As soon as he picked up the ball for his goal yesterday I was confident he would score.

Hibeesdaft16
25-02-2024, 10:31 AM
Top class player. Holds the ball up, wins fouls, goes past players effortlessly, goals and assists. As soon as he picked up the ball for his goal yesterday I was confident he would score.

His goal yesterday was like Vaz-Te before he left and became **** hot at West Ham (and I think a team before them).

LaMotta
25-02-2024, 10:33 AM
Maolida has loads going for him, he is strong, has great feet, looks languid but is really quick - and picks out great positions.

Marcondes yesterday did two things which were great to watch.

Throw in at the south end of the West, he asked for it to go to a specific point and heeled it to Boyle. Nothing came of it, but it was beautiful.

Corner in same area, he played the ball right onto Fish head. Either side of the keeper it was a goal. I dont think it was coincidence, he held up 5 fingers before the corner was taken, he actually meant it to go to Fish. The guy is a baller.

:agree:

The header from Marcondes top Vente in the build up to the Maoilda goal was top class too.

B.H.F.C
25-02-2024, 10:37 AM
:agree:

The header from Marcondes top Vente in the build up to the Maoilda goal was top class too.

It’s simple stuff but, in the two of them, we now have a couple of players with a genuine bit of quality who can do something out of very little.