IAN MURRAY | Open Goal interview

[Greenio]

Worth a watch for sure.

Be good to see him here at some point. Like the career path he's taken and how immersed he's been in the clubs he's been at.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqDXw791l-A

[Since452]

I'm starting warm to the idea of Murray coming here. Rovers have hit a blip performance wise but that's always going to happen at a club that size. On the whole he's had them playing some great stuff and punching above their weight.

[StockbridgeGoat]

Was utterly confused for a moment and expected to click onto the link and find the Edinburgh MP!

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Back to the one to one format without Slaney. Much better. Will give that a lesson for sure

[Trinity Hibee]

Yeah, enjoyed the interview. Ian Murray seems quite a measured and methodical manager. Would like us to give him a chance at some point.

[Hibernian Verse]

Good Hibee. He was in the normal seats for the derby recently.

[Carheenlea]

I gave that show a try following the Riordan/O’Connor episodes which were hugely entertaining, but unfortunately found them completely unlistenable with barely intelligible content from the likes of Derek Ferguson and Kevin Kyle. Never finished an episode.

Tried this one though and so much better. Very interesting chat with Ian Murray.

Ditching the clowns and having more of this kind of content would be very welcome.

[Up-the-slope]

First 5 mins or so a bit nippy as 'interviewer' trying too hard to be a 'lad'.... but once settled down really good in-depth listen... in this world of social media / sound bites and one sentence interviews great to have something with more to it and stuff i've never heard...

You can see why he has a group of players bursting a gut to play for him.

[Centre Hawf]

I gave that show a try following the Riordan/O’Connor episodes which were hugely entertaining, but unfortunately found them completely unlistenable with barely intelligible content from the likes of Derek Ferguson and Kevin Kyle. Never finished an episode.

Tried this one though and so much better. Very interesting chat with Ian Murray.

Ditching the clowns and having more of this kind of content would be very welcome.

To be fair to Si Ferry there's loads of these types of 'Meets' videos on the channel that are dead interesting. Even some names you think you'd despise are worth a watch just to hear how things worked behind the scenes or what their take on events were.

Ian Black and David Templeton's were both quite interesting for example.

[overdrive]

I gave that show a try following the Riordan/O’Connor episodes which were hugely entertaining, but unfortunately found them completely unlistenable with barely intelligible content from the likes of Derek Ferguson and Kevin Kyle. Never finished an episode.

Tried this one though and so much better. Very interesting chat with Ian Murray.

Ditching the clowns and having more of this kind of content would be very welcome.

It is so much better with Ferry just interviewing on his own. Andy Halliday is the only other tolerable one that is regularly on there despite his allegiances. At least you can understand what he is saying. The likes of Slaney drag Ferry down to their level as well when its the big group of them.

[KWJ]

To be fair to Si Ferry there's loads of these types of 'Meets' videos on the channel that are dead interesting. Even some names you think you'd despise are worth a watch just to hear how things worked behind the scenes or what their take on events were.

Ian Black and David Templeton's were both quite interesting for example.

Yeah, it's a shame they went away from it so much. There's a place for some of the relaxed lads banter stuff but it's not so much with these interviews which are really decent. Just a shame he had to wind it up so quickly as I'd have liked to have heard more about Norwich, return to Hibs and his other managerial jobs.

[JohnM1875]

I gave that show a try following the Riordan/O’Connor episodes which were hugely entertaining, but unfortunately found them completely unlistenable with barely intelligible content from the likes of Derek Ferguson and Kevin Kyle. Never finished an episode.

Tried this one though and so much better. Very interesting chat with Ian Murray.

Ditching the clowns and having more of this kind of content would be very welcome.

I actually like Derek Ferguson ‘so I do’. Seems like a decent guy. Same with Halliday.

Definitely prefer the one on one interviews though.

This Ian Murray one is brilliant. Plenty Hibs content and seems like a great pro

[Centre Hawf]

It is so much better with Ferry just interviewing on his own. Andy Halliday is the only other tolerable one that is regularly on there despite his allegiances. At least you can understand what he is saying. The likes of Slaney drag Ferry down to their level as well when its the big group of them.

I started watching a lot during lockdown when WFH and had never really given it much time before that, and I was surprised at myself finding Halliday to be quite a decent watch on it. A bit odd for a current Hearts player to be on it and you can tell he has to sanitise his thoughts when it comes to certain topics (Rangers playing Hearts or when talking about his own games overall). But certainly doesn't come over that badly in my view.

[Bridge hibs]

It is so much better with Ferry just interviewing on his own. Andy Halliday is the only other tolerable one that is regularly on there despite his allegiances. At least you can understand what he is saying. The likes of Slaney drag Ferry down to their level as well when its the big group of them.

Watched the build up highlights of their hydro arena show and it was absolute cringey, I get the daft boys will be boys stuff but Slaney just acted like a muppet, similar to when he made his grand entrance at their Tennents brewery gig

Cummings at the hydro gig was a bit cringey too, Kyle I can never understand but to be honest as much as Im not keen on Halliday he isnt too bad

[Alex Trager]

I enjoy watching all their stuff tbh.

A hard avoid if we get a sore one of course, but I actually really like Derek Ferguson. Seems a decent guy and also I’d say he’s fair about things.

Kyle is a bit meh

[Murphys Touch]

Love hearing former players talking about what it was like at Hibs - especially as I was a teenager when Murray was breaking through. That Latapy/Sauzee team was just a joy and the first part of my life really understanding football!

The wee section about Bobby Williamson was interesting - every player does speak so highly of him but my memories were that he was unpopular with the support...and his attitude back wasn't the best!

With hindsight and looking at the miserable dross we've had in the 20+ years since Bobby left....what are some of the fans views now?

[MikeyS]

Love hearing former players talking about what it was like at Hibs - especially as I was a teenager when Murray was breaking through. That Latapy/Sauzee team was just a joy and the first part of my life really understanding football!

The wee section about Bobby Williamson was interesting - every player does speak so highly of him but my memories were that he was unpopular with the support...and his attitude back wasn't the best!

With hindsight and looking at the miserable dross we've had in the 20+ years since Bobby left....what are some of the fans views now?


I think he was on a hiding to nothing right away due to who he replaced and then the added issues of players being on large contracts and in some cases he couldn't play them due to their bonus structures. His public demeanour probably didn't help but I had mates on the staff at the time who all said he was totally different and a good laugh.

I reckon a good part of the fan base probably didn't take to him cos he was a Rangers man too

He did OK overall though and certainly played a decent part in blooding so many of the golden generation in to the 1st team.

Certainly better than some of the dross that's darkened our days since his departure

[Smartie]

Love hearing former players talking about what it was like at Hibs - especially as I was a teenager when Murray was breaking through. That Latapy/Sauzee team was just a joy and the first part of my life really understanding football!

The wee section about Bobby Williamson was interesting - every player does speak so highly of him but my memories were that he was unpopular with the support...and his attitude back wasn't the best!

With hindsight and looking at the miserable dross we've had in the 20+ years since Bobby left....what are some of the fans views now?

My view is that he's a bit of an unsung hero.

He was in charge through some difficult times, Hibs tightening their belts a long time before most (some never have). We never got relegated under him.

I mainly respect him because he left a quite outstanding platform for his successor to build on and not many Hibs managers can claim to have done that. He's also very highly thought of by a large number of people who have started out at Hibs under him and gone on to have very good careers of one description or another, and that's good enough for me.

That's not to say the football was always great, bar a few very obvious highlights it was often quite grim, but there were mitigating circumstances.

[superfurryhibby]

Looking forward to the interview, pleased to hear Ferri has ditched his pals for this one, his show plummeted when he involved the others and became a kind of moronic daft laddie fest.

Ian Murray is a good guy, at school with my boy at Sciennes and then Boroughmuir. He's gained a good bit of experience now as a manager, he did well with Dumbarton, had a blip at St Mirren, then got Airdrie into play offs two seasons in a row. He's doing well at Raith, a side playing decent football and challenging a team with a much bigger budget. He's learning his managerial trade the right way.

[overdrive]

Looking forward to the interview, pleased to hear Ferri has ditched his pals for this one, his show plummeted when he involved the others and became a kind of moronic daft laddie fest.

Ian Murray is a good guy, at school with my boy at Sciennes and then Boroughmuir. He's gained a good bit of experience now as a manager, he did well with Dumbarton, had a blip at St Mirren, then got Airdrie into play offs two seasons in a row. He's doing well at Raith, a side playing decent football and challenging a team with a much bigger budget. He's learning his managerial trade the right way.

I think the St Mirren job was probably too big of a jump for him at the time. I remember reading an interview with him when he was at Dumbarton and he talked about making little changes to make them a bit more like a full time professional club that had a big impact on performances. Things like making sure the players were eating the right things, fitness, some sport science things, etc. These are all things that would be a given at a club like St Mirren so he would have to have drawn on other things which he might not have had a chance to do at Dumbarton. Airdrie and Raith are clubs that probably bridge that gap.

His spell as an assistant abroad will have served him well too.

[JimBHibees]

Back to the one to one format without Slaney. Much better. Will give that a lesson for sure

Couldn't agree more

[JimBHibees]

I gave that show a try following the Riordan/O’Connor episodes which were hugely entertaining, but unfortunately found them completely unlistenable with barely intelligible content from the likes of Derek Ferguson and Kevin Kyle. Never finished an episode.

Tried this one though and so much better. Very interesting chat with Ian Murray.

Ditching the clowns and having more of this kind of content would be very welcome.

Absolutely

[erin go bragh]

My view is that he's a bit of an unsung hero.

He was in charge through some difficult times, Hibs tightening their belts a long time before most (some never have). We never got relegated under him.

I mainly respect him because he left a quite outstanding platform for his successor to build on and not many Hibs managers can claim to have done that. He's also very highly thought of by a large number of people who have started out at Hibs under him and gone on to have very good careers of one description or another, and that's good enough for me.

That's not to say the football was always great, bar a few very obvious highlights it was often quite grim, but there were mitigating circumstances.

His comment of " If you want entertainment , go to pictures." Was not the best way to get all the fans behind him.

[Smartie]

His comment of " If you want entertainment , go to pictures." Was not the best way to get all the fans behind him.

He’d probably agree.

But I’m sure that quote related to his time at Kilmarnock. I also don’t mind the pragmatic view that a manager’s job is to win games and if you occasionally have to do it by playing ugly then so be it.

The 2 biggest criticisms of Williamson are a quote from his time at Kilmarnock and a rumoured transfer that never happened.

[greenlex]

He’d probably agree.

But I’m sure that quote related to his time at Kilmarnock. I also don’t mind the pragmatic view that a manager’s job is to win games and if you occasionally have to do it by playing ugly then so be it.

The 2 biggest criticisms of Williamson are a quote from his time at Kilmarnock and a rumoured transfer that never happened.
I’ll add in a third. League cup final. Pre match I got the impression he thought the win was a formality. He was standing with his hands in his pockets whilst Davie Hay was going round every player in his squad with a personal message or gee up. Never forgot that. Said at the time at the game I thought we’d struggle and really annoyed me at the time. Livingston were above us in the league and deservedly so even if the couldn’t really afford it. Still annoys me.

[Baader]

Looking forward to the interview, pleased to hear Ferri has ditched his pals for this one, his show plummeted when he involved the others and became a kind of moronic daft laddie fest.

Ian Murray is a good guy, at school with my boy at Sciennes and then Boroughmuir. He's gained a good bit of experience now as a manager, he did well with Dumbarton, had a blip at St Mirren, then got Airdrie into play offs two seasons in a row. He's doing well at Raith, a side playing decent football and challenging a team with a much bigger budget. He's learning his managerial trade the right way.

Totally agree. It's important to learn the trade and if for example Murray was ever near the Hibs job in future you'd be getting a manager who has cut his teeth with hundreds of games already under his belt as boss.

The flip side is we've hired a good number of duff managers who could claim the same but think Ian comes across as a pretty smart guy and interested to see how far he will go.

[Smartie]

I’ll add in a third. League cup final. Pre match I got the impression he thought the win was a formality. He was standing with his hands in his pockets whilst Davie Hay was going round every player in his squad with a personal message or gee up. Never forgot that. Said at the time at the game I thought we’d struggle and really annoyed me at the time. Livingston were above us in the league and deservedly so even if the couldn’t really afford it. Still annoys me.

Fair enough.

And the 4th - that the football was actually a bit crap - is really quite hard to argue against.

[eastterrace]

I think he was on a hiding to nothing right away due to who he replaced and then the added issues of players being on large contracts and in some cases he couldn't play them due to their bonus structures. His public demeanour probably didn't help but I had mates on the staff at the time who all said he was totally different and a good laugh.

I reckon a good part of the fan base probably didn't take to him cos he was a Rangers man too

He did OK overall though and certainly played a decent part in blooding so many of the golden generation in to the 1st team.

Certainly better than some of the dross that's darkened our days since his departure Did Williamson not try to punt derek riordan at one time for was it Bobby Mann.

[overdrive]

Did Williamson not try to punt derek riordan at one time for was it Bobby Mann.

Think the rumour was Riordan and Whittaker in exchange for Bobby Mann.

[xbar81]

Worth a watch for sure.

Be good to see him here at some point. Like the career path he's taken and how immersed he's been in the clubs he's been at.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqDXw791l-A


He must be our next manager I'd say. Monty will be probably do alright but IM is learning his trade with Raith and will one day want to make the step up. If Raith get promoted and we finish bottom 6 then the board should offer him the job in the summer (unless we have a great cup run or win it)

[HibbyAndy]

Kin see Murray at some point being Hibs manager , Wouldn't be disappointed with that to be honest

[killie-hibby]

His comment of " If you want entertainment , go to pictures." Was not the best way to get all the fans behind him.

Said at a time when managing Kilmarnock.

[eastmainsmsh]

Would have taken Murray after Johnson one day think he will manage hibs

[xbar81]

Said at a time when managing Kilmarnock.

Don't. the bobby era still gives me nightmares. Although no relegation I thought it was worse than Butcher. Perhaps it's just the age I am and that fact I had a season ticket in early 2000s.

[PhilipHill]

Would take him now.

[eastmainsmsh]

Would take him now.

Same here he changes things up unlike Montgomery knows club ticks all boxes

[silverhibee]

Think the rumour was Riordan and Whittaker in exchange for Bobby Mann.

Think BW put things straight on that story, John Robertson started the rumour and was stirring things, Deek’s made it clear he wasn’t going to Inverness and that was the end of it, met BW a number of times away from football and he was a bit of a guy, wasn’t a good drunk.

He defo gets credit for giving the GG there chance and sticking with them, Gaz Deek’s and Broony were the first 3 he brought in and he stuck with them and set the ball rolling for the Mowbray era, great times so they were.

As for a Nid, can’t see him getting the Hibs job in the future, think his chance has gone, I would have had him instead of Johnson.

[B.H.F.C]

Will give this a listen, you always find out a few bits and pieces that you never knew about players or managers when they were here.

As for Murray, I still don’t think he’s done enough to be in contention for the Hibs job. He’d need to do something really exceptional, get Raith up and have them doing well when they got up for example. If it wasn’t for his Hibs connections, I don’t think he’d ever be mentioned for it.

[HoboHarry]

Will give this a listen, you always find out a few bits and pieces that you never knew about players or managers when they were here.

As for Murray, I still don’t think he’s done enough to be in contention for the Hibs job. He’d need to do something really exceptional, get Raith up and have them doing well when they got up for example. If it wasn’t for his Hibs connections, I don’t think he’d ever be mentioned for it.

Your last sentence is bang on, take out the emotional connection and there isnt a whole lot left

[Trinity Hibee]

Will give this a listen, you always find out a few bits and pieces that you never knew about players or managers when they were here.

As for Murray, I still don’t think he’s done enough to be in contention for the Hibs job. He’d need to do something really exceptional, get Raith up and have them doing well when they got up for example. If it wasn’t for his Hibs connections, I don’t think he’d ever be mentioned for it.

Does the Hibs connection not count for something? A former captain and boyhood fan. Dies pretty well in other jobs. Passionate about his job. He’s as much of a gamble as anyone else

[Chipper1875]

Does the Hibs connection not count for something? A former captain and boyhood fan. Dies pretty well in other jobs. Passionate about his job. He’s as much of a gamble as anyone else

12 years experience in management. I’d say more qualified than Monty . Hope Monty is very successful and then headhunted by Sheff Utd . Ian then has continued to do well and gets hibs job

[Smartie]

Does the Hibs connection not count for something? A former captain and boyhood fan. Dies pretty well in other jobs. Passionate about his job. He’s as much of a gamble as anyone else

I'd also say that the job he didn't do well in is a positive.

The fact that he failed, has had to figure out where he went wrong and go about rebuilding and learning actually counts for a lot.

We've had a tendency to go for folk on an upward trajectory who haven't really experienced being in trouble until they get into trouble with us.

As has been said, as a former player and captain and someone who has played hundreds of games at our level counts for a fair bit too.

I rate him.

[MikeyS]

I'd also say that the job he didn't do well in is a positive.

The fact that he failed, has had to figure out where he went wrong and go about rebuilding and learning actually counts for a lot.

We've had a tendency to go for folk on an upward trajectory who haven't really experienced being in trouble until they get into trouble with us.

As has been said, as a former player and captain and someone who has played hundreds of games at our level counts for a fair bit too.

I rate him.

I do too.

I'm not sure how much more experience people would be looking for.

In comparison to our former managers, he would have more experience than McLeish,Sauzee, Mowbray, Collins, Mixu, Hughes, Caldwerood, Stubbs, Maloney & MMontgomery did prior to them all being appointed!

[overdrive]

I'd also say that the job he didn't do well in is a positive.

The fact that he failed, has had to figure out where he went wrong and go about rebuilding and learning actually counts for a lot.

We've had a tendency to go for folk on an upward trajectory who haven't really experienced being in trouble until they get into trouble with us.

As has been said, as a former player and captain and someone who has played hundreds of games at our level counts for a fair bit too.

I rate him.

Yep and the failure was at a big-ish club with fan expectations (relative to the size of the club and where they were at the time) which I think counts for a lot too. I think some of our managers have seemed surprised when the fans have got upset when we are underperforming.

[superfurryhibby]

Yep and the failure was at a big-ish club with fan expectations (relative to the size of the club and where they were at the time) which I think counts for a lot too. I think some of our managers have seemed surprised when the fans have got upset when we are underperforming.

That was pretty early in his managerial career and he returned from that set back as a better manager. Managers get the sack at some point, even the very best of them (well, almost all). I think the St Mirren job counts for nothing in the greater scheme of things, particularly if Murray keeps Raith at the top end of the table.

[BILLYHIBS]

Brilliant interview well worth a watch with loads of Hibs content and anecdotes

Guy is Hibs daft always liked him

Can see Murray Potter and Cameron at ER one day

[blackpoolhibs]

Never liked him, loved seeing him crumpled up in the back of the net at ibrox. Personally i'd not like him anywhere near the managers job at Hibs.

[xbar81]

Never liked him, loved seeing him crumpled up in the back of the net at ibrox. Personally i'd not like him anywhere near the managers job at Hibs.

Cause he went to Rangers?? Or cause he went to the old firm in general.

You gone off players like Scott Brown, Kevin Thompson, Latapy etc...

[TrinityHFC]

Never liked him, loved seeing him crumpled up in the back of the net at ibrox. Personally i'd not like him anywhere near the managers job at Hibs.

Never taken to him either and I don't think he will ever be Hibs manager.

There's something with him that I don't think is polished enough compared to what we look for in managers.

Don't know if he is still like this publicly but his twitter account a few years back was not shy of industrial language. Just don't see him ever being top of our list when we are looking.

[MikeyS]

Brilliant interview well worth a watch with loads of Hibs content and anecdotes

Guy is Hibs daft always liked him

Can see Murray Potter and Cameron at ER one day


I'd draw the line at Cameron, he's a wee @rsehole!

[xbar81]

Never taken to him either and I don't think he will ever be Hibs manager.

There's something with him that I don't think is polished enough compared to what we look for in managers.

Don't know if he is still like this publicly but his twitter account a few years back was not shy of industrial language. Just don't see him ever being top of our list when we are looking.


You're kidding right? Passion is what we need. Previously we've had weak shaun maloney, double talking claptrap Lee Johnson, and some are thinking Monty isn't good enough.

Ian Murray may be the best manager we are likely to get since Jack Ross.

[MikeyS]

Never taken to him either and I don't think he will ever be Hibs manager.

There's something with him that I don't think is polished enough compared to what we look for in managers.

Don't know if he is still like this publicly but his twitter account a few years back was not shy of industrial language. Just don't see him ever being top of our list when we are looking.


I don't think Ian Murray has ever been on social media sites like Twitter or Instagram. Could be wrong though.

He's a pretty shy guy in public actually.

He attends an annual event that me and my mates go to and does all he can to keep a low profile.

[JimBHibees]

Brilliant interview well worth a watch with loads of Hibs content and anecdotes

Guy is Hibs daft always liked him

Can see Murray Potter and Cameron at ER one day

Really good listen. Came over well.

[Chipper1875]

Never taken to him either and I don't think he will ever be Hibs manager.

There's something with him that I don't think is polished enough compared to what we look for in managers.

Don't know if he is still like this publicly but his twitter account a few years back was not shy of industrial language. Just don't see him ever being top of our list when we are looking.

Polished… Industrial language in fitba … what next

[superfurryhibby]

Never taken to him either and I don't think he will ever be Hibs manager.

There's something with him that I don't think is polished enough compared to what we look for in managers.

Don't know if he is still like this publicly but his twitter account a few years back was not shy of industrial language. Just don't see him ever being top of our list when we are looking.

:rolleyes:

Bizarre.

[TrinityHFC]

Polished… Industrial language in fitba … what next

In a public context I’d want the manager of Hibs not to be tweeting stuff like that. I don’t think that’s really much to ask for the position.

And yes, how managers speak and present themselves is a huge part of being at a big club. Just look at how and what everything they say is taken on here.

[Chipper1875]

In a public context I’d want the manager of Hibs not to be tweeting stuff like that. I don’t think that’s really much to ask for the position.

And yes, how managers speak and present themselves is a huge part of being at a big club. Just look at how and what everything they say is taken on here.
When were these tweets? What was said ?