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Jack
15-01-2024, 01:36 PM
With the changes to voting in person changing since the last GE.

With an election coming up this year.

It might be raining on the day of the vote.

You might as well apply for a postal vote now!

If you've changed address since you last had a postal vote you'll need to apply again.

I don't care who you intend to vote for, just vote.

https://www.mygov.scot/apply-postal-vote

pollution
16-01-2024, 09:39 AM
[QUOTE=Jack;7548817]With the changes to voting in person changing since the last GE.

With an election coming up this year.

It might be raining on the day of the vote.

You might as well apply for a postal vote now!

If you've changed address since you last had a postal vote you'll need to apply again.

I don't care who you intend to vote for, just vote.

https://www.mygov.scot/apply-postal


Best way to vote, I always vote this way.

bod
20-01-2024, 10:19 AM
postal votes are ok if your 100% on a certain party but voting on the day means you’ve got longer to decide

pollution
20-01-2024, 05:37 PM
postal votes are ok if your 100% on a certain party but voting on the day means you’ve got longer to decide



What sort of issue would there be for you to decide on the day ?

lapsedhibee
20-01-2024, 05:44 PM
What sort of issue would there be for you to decide on the day ?

In Scotland there might be people who will choose between SNP and Labour depending on how close the latest polling is between Labour and Conservative.

danhibees1875
20-01-2024, 07:51 PM
I don't care who you intend to vote for, just vote.



Not the point of the thread, but I typically feel a bit against the grain on this so curious if anyone else agrees - I think if you don't want to vote, don't.

I don't get the clamour for everyone to vote. :dunno:

bod
22-01-2024, 12:54 PM
What sort of issue would there be for you to decide on the day ?
I think there a lot who are undecided & leave it until the last minute

Scouse Hibee
22-01-2024, 01:10 PM
Not the point of the thread, but I typically feel a bit against the grain on this so curious if anyone else agrees - I think if you don't want to vote, don't.

I don't get the clamour for everyone to vote. :dunno:

I agree, I am 56 and have voted less then half a dozen times in my life.

Pretty Boy
22-01-2024, 01:40 PM
Not the point of the thread, but I typically feel a bit against the grain on this so curious if anyone else agrees - I think if you don't want to vote, don't.

I don't get the clamour for everyone to vote. :dunno:

:agree:

That's where I am now. No party reflects my politics enough nowadays for me to vote for them. A vote for any of them would involve too many concessions so I just don't vote. If the SSP stand a candidate in my constituency then I'll vote for them just so the vote is counted, likewise if there is a decent independent.

I don't feel any of the SNP, Labour, Tories or Lib Dems deserve my vote so they aren't getting it. I don't want it being taken as tacit approval of any of them.

Mon Dieu4
22-01-2024, 01:53 PM
:agree:

That's where I am now. No party reflects my politics enough nowadays for me to vote for them. A vote for any of them would involve too many concessions so I just don't vote. If the SSP stand a candidate in my constituency then I'll vote for them just so the vote is counted, likewise if there is a decent independent.

I don't feel any of the SNP, Labour, Tories or Lib Dems deserve my vote so they aren't getting it. I don't want it being taken as tacit approval of any of them.

For the first time ever that's where I'm at as well, no party ever reflects my views 100% that's impossible but if you get 80% of them I will vote for you, don't feel any of the current parties are even getting close to that just now with me

Moulin Yarns
23-01-2024, 07:50 AM
:agree:

That's where I am now. No party reflects my politics enough nowadays for me to vote for them. A vote for any of them would involve too many concessions so I just don't vote. If the SSP stand a candidate in my constituency then I'll vote for them just so the vote is counted, likewise if there is a decent independent.

I don't feel any of the SNP, Labour, Tories or Lib Dems deserve my vote so they aren't getting it. I don't want it being taken as tacit approval of any of them.

A lot depends on the constituency, straight fight between conservative and SNP with the others making up 10% of the vote. Not voting may well let the Conservative, Stephen Kerr, into Westminster. Pete Wishart is currently my MP but with boundary change the SNP candidate is Dave Doogan.

marinello59
23-01-2024, 08:45 AM
I will always go and make my mark on a ballot paper, democracy is to important to just give up on. Not voting let's the Trumps and Johnson's of this world ride in to power on the back of people's lethargy. it's up to us to give ourselves a shake and not let that happen any more. If you can't find the best fit then the next option is surely to stop the worst fit from crossing the line.

CropleyWasGod
23-01-2024, 11:33 AM
I will always go and make my mark on a ballot paper, democracy is to important to just give up on. Not voting let's the Trumps and Johnson's of this world ride in to power on the back of people's lethargy. it's up to us to give ourselves a shake and not let that happen any more. If you can't find the best fit then the next option is surely to stop the worst fit from crossing the line.

I'm with you on that. Even a spoiled paper (with appropriate scribbled notes ) is a vote in itself.

overdrive
23-01-2024, 02:43 PM
I'm with you on that. Even a spoiled paper (with appropriate scribbled notes ) is a vote in itself.

I'd always recommend a scribbled note. As someone who has previously been involved in election counts, both as a counter and mid-to-senior management, the comments brighten up an otherwise dull night/day. The best bit is when 'doubtful' papers are shown to the candidates. Papers with things written on them tend to go into that category. It was always mildly amusing watching the candidates faces having to read stuff that people had written about them on the papers. :greengrin

Moulin Yarns
23-01-2024, 03:46 PM
I'd always recommend a scribbled note. As someone who has previously been involved in election counts, both as a counter and mid-to-senior management, the comments brighten up an otherwise dull night/day. The best bit is when 'doubtful' papers are shown to the candidates. Papers with things written on them tend to go into that category. It was always mildly amusing watching the candidates faces having to read stuff that people had written about them on the papers. :greengrin

Ooh Im tempted now 😁

Hibrandenburg
23-01-2024, 04:02 PM
I will always go and make my mark on a ballot paper, democracy is to important to just give up on. Not voting let's the Trumps and Johnson's of this world ride in to power on the back of people's lethargy. it's up to us to give ourselves a shake and not let that happen any more. If you can't find the best fit then the next option is surely to stop the worst fit from crossing the line.

Pfft, was going to write similar, won't bother now.

Pretty Boy
23-01-2024, 05:04 PM
I'm with you on that. Even a spoiled paper (with appropriate scribbled notes ) is a vote in itself.

It it was a national vote such as a referendum or even a presidential style election then I'd probably go out and vote as in that instance I'd have direct impact on a 'least worst' candidate potentially winning.

With the FPTP constituency set up of a general election I don't feel the same pressure. Only Labour or the SNP can win in my constituency, it would take close to 20K people who voted last time either staying at home or changing vote to give the Tories even a chance and that simply isn't going to happen. I wouldn't mind seeing either of the other two getting a bloody nose though.

I just can't be bothered watching the Labour candidate giving a victory speech telling the world his constituents have 'rejected independence' or the SNP candidate saying it's 'a clear sign this is what the people of Scotland want'. The single issue nature of Scottish politics is increasingly tedious to me and the best way I feel I can show my disdain is just refusing to engage with the process. I've long ceased to believe that any meaningful change for people like me will come from any mainstream political party.

If a shock poll suggests the Tories are likely to win in a constituency largely made up by the residents of Niddrie and Craigmillar then I might change my mind. I don't think I have much to worry about.

Moulin Yarns
23-01-2024, 08:54 PM
It it was a national vote such as a referendum or even a presidential style election then I'd probably go out and vote as in that instance I'd have direct impact on a 'least worst' candidate potentially winning.

With the FPTP constituency set up of a general election I don't feel the same pressure. Only Labour or the SNP can win in my constituency, it would take close to 20K people who voted last time either staying at home or changing vote to give the Tories even a chance and that simply isn't going to happen. I wouldn't mind seeing either of the other two getting a bloody nose though.

I just can't be bothered watching the Labour candidate giving a victory speech telling the world his constituents have 'rejected independence' or the SNP candidate saying it's 'a clear sign this is what the people of Scotland want'. The single issue nature of Scottish politics is increasingly tedious to me and the best way I feel I can show my disdain is just refusing to engage with the process. I've long ceased to believe that any meaningful change for people like me will come from any mainstream political party.

If a shock poll suggests the Tories are likely to win in a constituency largely made up by the residents of Niddrie and Craigmillar then I might change my mind. I don't think I have much to worry about.

Yep, as I said above north Perthshire, or whatever it's called in the new boundary change ( Angus glens and north Perthshire??) straight fight between tories and SNP so if I vote it's got to be snp. I voted in every election and referendum since 1975 and the actual going into the booth is a buzz.

Paul1642
24-01-2024, 12:51 AM
Not the point of the thread, but I typically feel a bit against the grain on this so curious if anyone else agrees - I think if you don't want to vote, don't.

I don't get the clamour for everyone to vote. :dunno:

I’ll vote (maybe spoil my ballot for the first time) but I am fully onboard with this mindset. The whole party politics dynamic is crap and screw going out of your way to vote for self serving politicians of any party.

Bristolhibby
24-01-2024, 09:27 AM
I will always go and make my mark on a ballot paper, democracy is to important to just give up on. Not voting let's the Trumps and Johnson's of this world ride in to power on the back of people's lethargy. it's up to us to give ourselves a shake and not let that happen any more. If you can't find the best fit then the next option is surely to stop the worst fit from crossing the line.

This. Was having a debate with my mate in Bath. He hates the Lib Dem incumbent, see the Greens as ineffectual.

Told him not voting for the Lib Dems is like giving half a vote to the Tories.

I’ve got some time to work on him.

In my constituency it’s a straight up shoot out between the Tory incumbent. The Cad and Bounder James Grey. He pretty much stands for everything I’m against. (BREXIT, pro Hunting, member of the ERG, pro Rwanda, Prologuing Parliament, anti Scottish independence, etc). Up against the Lib Dem’s.

100% voting Liberal Democrat as is my wife, so there’s two of us.

Bring in PR, stop all this nonsense.

J

McD
24-01-2024, 09:52 AM
Yep, as I said above north Perthshire, or whatever it's called in the new boundary change ( Angus glens and north Perthshire??) straight fight between tories and SNP so if I vote it's got to be snp. I voted in every election and referendum since 1975 and the actual going into the booth is a buzz.



I used to feel very positive about voting, and can remember the buzz when doing it the first few times.

The last few years however have left me feeling that no party represents my views well, and tbh most of them are very self focussed imo, there seems to be very little willingness or positive cross party engagement, just constant sniping at each other. My feelings towards Scottish and British political parties, politicians, manifestos and focuses are apathetic at best, the current incumbents of both chambers of power are a pale shadow of their predecessors, both in political weight and substance. That said, I am a firm believer in using the right to vote and enacting your choice, I just don’t feel like there’s anyone worth choosing.


None of that is a criticism of you MY, I’m actually quite glad to hear that you (and presumably others) aren’t feeling as beaten down as I am.