LJ gone

[gorgie greens]

LJ has left Fleetwood, all statement said is he left with immediate effect.
Nae surprise there.

[Hibs90]

Fair play, the man knows how to get a decent pay-off.

That'll be him finished as a manager. Shame.

[Skol]

He can take his granny out for a meal tonight without any care in the world :greengrin

[Steven79]

He can take his granny out for a meal tonight without any care in the world :greengrin[emoji1787]

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[eastmainsmsh]

Salford or Walford on Pete beales fruit stall

[sleeping giant]

Ooft. Sacked twice in half a season.

[Unseen work]

He’s got to ask himself, if a lion was chasing him would he have done better.

He should be phoning up the other teams managers asking what they eat and what they do in the gym.

[HH81]

Two payouts in 6 months..

What a crap manager.

[hibsbollah]

Ooft. Sacked twice in half a season.

Imagine that happened to one of us. You’d maybe decide to look for a new career.

[neil7908]

Quelle surprise

[J-C]

He was an imposter and found out pretty rapidly this time.

[Bostonhibby]

Bring him home

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[overdrive]

The equivalent of this thread on the Sunderland forum is a hoot. They really love him down there :faf:. Beale seems to be thought of as the second coming of LJ too.

Wonder which club will be taken in by his buzzword bingo next.

[Northernhibee]

Should have been gone in January with us.

[Pretty Boy]

Lee wasn't sacked. He simply vacated the quantum plain of his current employment and elevated himself to another level. Look at Jesus, he didn't just got to Nazareth and say 'I'm the son of God'. He went on to Galilee, Jerusalem...... Pep told Lee, when he took a personal interest in him, that you have to keep moving forward. There are people in Macclesfield, Accrington, Boston, Scarborough who haven't heard of Lee and his wisdom yet. Lee isn't the hunted here, he's the alpha hunter and he doesn't worry about such formalities as a P45, he's like a shark in that sense, he just goes about biting stuff.

[overdrive]

Lee wasn't sacked. He simply vacated the quantum plain of his current employment and elevated himself to another level. Look at Jesus, he didn't just got to Nazareth and say 'I'm the son of God'. He went on to Galilee, Jerusalem...... Pep told Lee, when he took a personal interest in him, that you have to keep moving forward. There are people in Macclesfield, Accrington, Boston, Scarborough who haven't heard of Lee and his wisdom yet. Lee isn't the hunted here, he's the alpha hunter and he doesn't worry about such formalities as a P45, he's like a shark in that sense, he just goes about biting stuff.

:faf:

[1875Sean]

Worrying thing is some would want him back here going by some comments on Monty

[Skol]

Worrying thing is some would want him back here going by some comments on Monty

I haven’t seen anyone say they would have Johnston back over Montgomery. I am assuming the comment above was tongue in cheek.

[Bostonhibby]

Lee wasn't sacked. He simply vacated the quantum plain of his current employment and elevated himself to another level. Look at Jesus, he didn't just got to Nazareth and say 'I'm the son of God'. He went on to Galilee, Jerusalem...... Pep told Lee, when he took a personal interest in him, that you have to keep moving forward. There are people in Macclesfield, Accrington, Boston, Scarborough who haven't heard of Lee and his wisdom yet. Lee isn't the hunted here, he's the alpha hunter and he doesn't worry about such formalities as a P45, he's like a shark in that sense, he just goes about biting stuff.I go to Boston and I've heard of him[emoji35]

He's big in Surfleet Seas End as well

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[Broken Gnome]

Worrying thing is some would want him back here going by some comments on Monty

He got us into Europe and had the Lucern tie, so he's no where near the 'worst Hibs manager ever' no matter how much people want to believe it.

Regardless of how poorly we'll doing at the moment, I'd remind people of the opening day against St. Mirren for the first 70 minutes. Most weeks not we currently look like a team being coached into something that makes sense but just doesn't work for these players. On that day, plus Ross County last season, Motherwell this and last season, Dundee Utd last season, we barely looked coached at all.

[MKHIBEE]

I go to Boston and I've heard of him[emoji35]

He's big in Surfleet Seas End as well

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I work in Scarborough and it’s only me who seems to have heard of him

[Bostonhibby]

I work in Scarborough and it’s only me who seems to have heard of himI think there's a guy in Terrington St. Clement who is in the same position as you

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[Lago]

He was an imposter and found out pretty rapidly this time.
Still had his supporters on here.

[The Modfather]

Thoughts are with Donegal Hibs at this time.

[I'm_cabbaged]

Sacked twice in a season before new year…

[BegbieHSC]

After all his whimpering and wailing about having a smaller budget at Fleetwood than Hibs, but a better squad. Get it up him.

[Bishop Hibee]

How do tubes like Johnson continue to find work in football?

[Key West]

Lee wasn't sacked. He simply vacated the quantum plain of his current employment and elevated himself to another level. Look at Jesus, he didn't just got to Nazareth and say 'I'm the son of God'. He went on to Galilee, Jerusalem...... Pep told Lee, when he took a personal interest in him, that you have to keep moving forward. There are people in Macclesfield, Accrington, Boston, Scarborough who haven't heard of Lee and his wisdom yet. Lee isn't the hunted here, he's the alpha hunter and he doesn't worry about such formalities as a P45, he's like a shark in that sense, he just goes about biting stuff.

Surprised by this, very immature.

[VoltaireHibs]

Surprised by this, very immature.

Really? I thought it was very funny and wholly deserved. If you talk the talk, and boy does LJ talk the talk, then don't be surprised when others laugh at you for not being able to walk the walk. I suspect LJ's next gig will be abroad, spreading his gospel to far flung lands, a true footballing missionary. Or something.

[Aldo]

I haven’t seen anyone say they would have Johnston back over Montgomery. I am assuming the comment above was tongue in cheek.

Think there are a few! They made their feelings know the other evening.

LJ = God like status and could do no wrong and didn’t get enough time!

[Pretty Boy]

Surprised by this, very immature.

I'm sure Lee will cope.

[Skol]

Think there are a few! They made their feelings know the other evening.

LJ = God like status and could do no wrong and didn’t get enough time!

That’s absolute rubbish.

[Aldo]

That’s absolute rubbish.

Nope.

There are some who wanted LJ to stay! Nit going to get back into it all but again shows just how poor a manager he actually is

[Skol]

Nope.

Show me one post where someone wanted Johnston back.

[Heisenberg]

Mind some of his biggest fans going on about what a great job he’d been doing at Fleetwood. Surprised it’s ended like this.

[Aldo]

Show me one post where someone wanted Johnston back.

Not trawling back through it but there are. They didn’t want NM etc. I didn’t say back. Not back but not sacked

[lyonhibs]

Surprised by this, very immature.

It was an accurate usage of the bull**** bingo, word salad approach that LJ used to employ regularly to try to cover up for his team's woeful performances (or confuse the viewer so much once forgot how bad the last 90 minutes had been

[Hibernia&Alba]

How many games was he Fleetwood manager for?

[blackpoolhibs]

Not sacked, head hunted by the Fleetwood Car Centre the Fylde coast number 1.

[SaulGoodman]

Surprised by this, very immature.

Where are you going next, Lee?

[Bobby's Cinema]

Surprised by this, very immature.
Shouldn't entertain Sportsound each week but again, Kenny Mcintyre - "Lee Johnson sacked Alan. He'll be back selling himself to another club in no time. Haha." Would you get that sort of commentary around any other manager that's been associated with any other club in the scottish game?

[McSwanky]

Shouldn't entertain Sportsound each week but again, Kenny Mcintyre - "Lee Johnson sacked Alan. He'll be back selling himself to another club in no time. Haha." Would you get that sort of commentary around any other manager that's been associated with any other club in the scottish game?If his/her demeanor was anything like Johnson's then probably, yes. Guy was (and I assume still is) a total slaver.

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[Keith_M]

Lee wasn't sacked. He simply vacated the quantum plain of his current employment and elevated himself to another level. Look at Jesus, he didn't just got to Nazareth and say 'I'm the son of God'. He went on to Galilee, Jerusalem...... Pep told Lee, when he took a personal interest in him, that you have to keep moving forward. There are people in Macclesfield, Accrington, Boston, Scarborough who haven't heard of Lee and his wisdom yet. Lee isn't the hunted here, he's the alpha hunter and he doesn't worry about such formalities as a P45, he's like a shark in that sense, he just goes about biting stuff.


:faf:



:top marks

[Brightside]

No comment.

[SaulGoodman]

No comment.

If only Johnson took that approach.

[Cat Stanton]

One win in the last ten league games. Goals for 2, goals against 21. The other teams just must have better ball manipulators.

[I'm_cabbaged]

I'm sure Lee will cope.

Will you though PB? Pray for pretty boy

[neil7908]

That's both him and Ross that couldn't even make half a season in their next gigs after Hibs.

I'm a fan of Monty but that doesn't reflect particularly well on our decision makers, especially when Maloney's Wigan are sitting 18th in League One.

[B.H.F.C]

That's both him and Ross that couldn't even make half a season in their next gigs after Hibs.

I'm a fan of Monty but that doesn't reflect particularly well on our decision makers, especially when Maloney's Wigan are sitting 18th in League One.

Maloney not done too badly, they started the season with a points deduction, had transfer embargo’s etc.

[sauzeelegod]

Worrying thing is some would want him back here going by some comments on Monty

You’ve just made that up

[Hibs4185]

If he got a job in January and sacked by the end of the season, would he be the first ever manager to be sacked 3 times in one season?

[Hibernia&Alba]

If he got a job in January and sacked by the end of the season, would he be the first ever manager to be sacked 3 times in one season?

I don’t know the answer to that, but, the way football is now, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s happened before.

[LancashireHibby]

Second time he’s been sacked immediately after losing to Bolton (the other was a 6-0 defeat when Sunderland manager). And I was at both games!

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Lee wasn't sacked. He simply vacated the quantum plain of his current employment and elevated himself to another level. Look at Jesus, he didn't just got to Nazareth and say 'I'm the son of God'. He went on to Galilee, Jerusalem...... Pep told Lee, when he took a personal interest in him, that you have to keep moving forward. There are people in Macclesfield, Accrington, Boston, Scarborough who haven't heard of Lee and his wisdom yet. Lee isn't the hunted here, he's the alpha hunter and he doesn't worry about such formalities as a P45, he's like a shark in that sense, he just goes about biting stuff.
Genius - lol. Needed a cheer up!

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Second time he’s been sacked immediately after losing to Bolton (the other was a 6-0 defeat when Sunderland manager). And I was at both games!

LH - yer a ££&&@@ jinx!

[Paulie Walnuts]

Maloney not done too badly, they started the season with a points deduction, had transfer embargo’s etc.

Yup. They’d be 9th without it.

[Crunchie]

Still had his supporters on here.
I support every Hibs manager, as should we all. His record really wasn't as bad as some are making it out to be. We now have the same clowns questioning Monty. We'll never move forward if we keep sacking managers at the first sign of a bad spell. I'd have given him more time.
Sacking Ross was another major mistake imo.

[Bostonhibby]

One win in the last ten league games. Goals for 2, goals against 21. The other teams just must have better ball manipulators.I'm just amazed he wasn't on Dim lizzy Truss's Honours list with numbers like that.

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[Crunchie]

No comment.
After your comments about Shankland not being a goal scorer that's probably a wise choice :agree:

WB btw

[Jones28]

Surprised by this, very immature.

It’s bang on the money as usual from one of Hibs.nets top table contributors.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I haven’t seen anyone say they would have Johnston back over Montgomery. I am assuming the comment above was tongue in cheek.

Not tongue in cheek, just bollocks.

[eastmainsmsh]

LJ is a number 2

[Northernhibee]

LJ is a number 2

Straight out of the corridor of uncertainty.

[Centre Hawf]

Shouldn't entertain Sportsound each week but again, Kenny Mcintyre - "Lee Johnson sacked Alan. He'll be back selling himself to another club in no time. Haha." Would you get that sort of commentary around any other manager that's been associated with any other club in the scottish game?

People have been going on about agendas etc when it comes to the media and LJ but do you ever think that perhaps everyone outside the club could see what a full of **** used car salesman he was?

I’ve already seen Andy Walker taking the piss out of Derek Adams on SSN today to answer your question.

[Wilson]

People have been going on about agendas etc when it comes to the media and LJ but do you ever think that perhaps everyone outside the club could see what a full of **** used car salesman he was?

I’ve already seen Andy Walker taking the piss out of Derek Adams on SSN today to answer your question.

Not sure how Andy Walker can take the piss out of anyone really. A bigger balloon than most.

[Northernhibee]

People have been going on about agendas etc when it comes to the media and LJ but do you ever think that perhaps everyone outside the club could see what a full of **** used car salesman he was?

I’ve already seen Andy Walker taking the piss out of Derek Adams on SSN today to answer your question.
The Villa fans chanting “Johnson, what’s the score” at ER tells you all you need to know about what people think of him.

[The Modfather]

The Villa fans chanting “Johnson, what’s the score” at ER tells you all you need to know about what people think of him.

They probably knew him from his previous visit to Villa Park. They might have sung about some of our players if they had been to Villa Park before as well.

[Cod Boy]

Lost the dressing room seemingly some players told they would be gone in January a few weeks ago

[J-C]

Lost the dressing room seemingly some players told they would be gone in January a few weeks ago

Similar to what happened with Butcher.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Fair play, the man knows how to get a decent pay-off.

That'll be him finished as a manager. Shame.

I wouldn't be sure of that. He somehow seems to be able to convince clubs he's a manager

[Scouse Hibee]

I wouldn't be sure of that. He somehow seems to be able to convince clubs he's a manager

Maybe should go and work alongside his Dad.

[VoltaireHibs]

Maybe should go and work alongside his Dad.

Think his dad probably knows him too well...

[Hermit Crab]

No surprise at all, an absolute imposter of a football manager who blamed absolutely everything on everyone else (including fans) for his failings. He'll be lucky to manage again at a semi decent level.

[Auckland Hibs]

I hope he got a decent pay off from us and Fleetwood because he'll be lucky to manage at pro level again.

Heads should have rolled within ER for us hiring him, he's an absolute fraud.

[Since452]

Shame. Fleetwood was a horrendous job to take. Should have kept his power dry. Will struggle in management now after having some huge jobs. Credit to Fleetwood seeing he was hopeless and acting quickly.

[TrinityHFC]

I thought managers could only be judged after 2 or 3 transfer windows?

Anyway, poor choice of job. They are terrible.

[Keepthefaith]

I hope he got a decent pay off from us and Fleetwood because he'll be lucky to manage at pro level again.

Heads should have rolled within ER for us hiring him, he's an absolute fraud.

As a manager myself it's not always possible to see the real person in front of you at interviews. Ron did the best he could and if he was hoodwinked then it's not totally his fault. It's not like he wanted to hire a **** manager after Maloney. Lee would have interviewed very well, he can point to relative success at Oldham and Barnsley in particular and Sunderland were also an unstable club when he had them in 6th place in league 1.

Clearly the guy has done a job on us, but let's not make out like the club knew what they were getting and just turned a blind eye. That's just daft.

[SteveHFC]

Charlie Adam to takeover at Fleetwood.

[Smartie]

As a manager myself it's not always possible to see the real person in front of you at interviews. Ron did the best he could and if he was hoodwinked then it's not totally his fault. It's not like he wanted to hire a **** manager after Maloney. Lee would have interviewed very well, he can point to relative success at Oldham and Barnsley in particular and Sunderland were also an unstable club when he had them in 6th place in league 1.

Clearly the guy has done a job on us, but let's not make out like the club knew what they were getting and just turned a blind eye. That's just daft.

When he had a full season he finished 5th. Our league start was grim (and the fact that he'd lost the crowd meant that it was time for him to go) but there were mitigating factors (the fixture schedule) that will have contributed towards that poor start in the league. I wouldn't have been betting against him turning around the poor start over a season into something at the very least respectable.

I certainly don't feel like he did a job on us. He was not quite as good as we needed him to be and tbh he wouldn't get into my top 5 worst Hibs managers. Taking a difficult job at Fleetwood so soon after leaving Hibs was madness and he may well have sunk his managerial career with that poor choice.

Some of the vitriol on here for Johnson relative to that which is reserved for Sweeties Calderwood and our relegation numpties is pretty baffling tbh.

[CallumLaidlaw]

When he had a full season he finished 5th. Our league start was grim (and the fact that he'd lost the crowd meant that it was time for him to go) but there were mitigating factors (the fixture schedule) that will have contributed towards that poor start in the league. I wouldn't have been betting against him turning around the poor start over a season into something at the very least respectable.

I certainly don't feel like he did a job on us. He was not quite as good as we needed him to be and tbh he wouldn't get into my top 5 worst Hibs managers. Taking a difficult job at Fleetwood so soon after leaving Hibs was madness and he may well have sunk his managerial career with that poor choice.

Some of the vitriol on here for Johnson relative to that which is reserved for Sweeties Calderwood and our relegation numpties is pretty baffling tbh.

At the end of last season, I was of full belief he had done enough to get more time. We’d improved season on season, and had qualified for Europe.

While we saw a couple of great results (2 legs against Luzerne) the rest of this season under him was woeful. And any sense of identity had disappeared in the league games. Had turned into “lump it up to the forwards to flick on or run on to” and was very easy to play against.

Meanwhile I heard some absolute horror stories (not just on here) of player treatment, and of his overall style. He is a fan of Lee Johnson and that’s about it.

Seems to think he’s a big player with great connections when he absolutely is not. And his recent comments just solidify how much rubbish he speaks. He’s only interested in self preservation, and it’s no wonder, as he’s not a very good manager.


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[Hibbyradge]

The Villa fans chanting “Johnson, what’s the score” at ER tells you all you need to know about what people think of him.

They were singing "Blue nose what's the score".

[Is It On....]

Really? I thought it was very funny and wholly deserved. If you talk the talk, and boy does LJ talk the talk, then don't be surprised when others laugh at you for not being able to walk the walk. I suspect LJ's next gig will be abroad, spreading his gospel to far flung lands, a true footballing missionary. Or something.

The American Samoa team could do with his wisdom 👍

[Is It On....]

The equivalent of this thread on the Sunderland forum is a hoot. They really love him down there :faf:. Beale seems to be thought of as the second coming of LJ too.

Wonder which club will be taken in by his buzzword bingo next.

You inspired me to check and it's really rather similar. Talk of elephants and lions...and a little bit of a dig at LJ supporters..

"Still laugh my t#ts off at the meltdown of certain fans on here when he got the bullet for us. The bloke was a bell##d of the highest order"

"I wish a club would come out with the truth for once.

Thanks for f#ck all and he was sacked because he was f***ing useless ."

[WhileTheChief..]

I wouldn't be sure of that. He somehow seems to be able to convince clubs he's a manager

And some folks on here!!!

They were quick enough to shout us down for wanting him out.

[500miles]

A career as an agent beckons. He's done.

[Greenio]

Man's lost his job. The glee on here at that feels a bit distasteful imo

[J-C]

Man's lost his job. The glee on here at that feels a bit distasteful imo

Lost his job with probably 2 good payouts to boot, he's in the football industry and knows what happens if you cannot bring success, if he wants a steady job with steady wages, then maybe football isn't for him. Distasteful haha get a grip eh?

[easty]

Man's lost his job. The glee on here at that feels a bit distasteful imo

I also enjoy videos of people comically falling over, and when birds **** on peoples heads. Funny is funny.

[Trinity Hibee]

It’s worrying he got a job so quickly after us. Smacked of a panic appointment by fleetwood

[007]

They were singing "Blue nose what's the score".

They did sing “Johnson, what’s the score” and they were giving Newell it tight too because he's a Birmingham fan so the “Blue nose, what’s the score” would have been aimed at him.

[Crunchie]

Man's lost his job. The glee on here at that feels a bit distasteful imo
I agree with you mate, it says a lot about someone when they get their jollies off at an ex Hibs manager failing here and elsewhere.

[WhileTheChief..]

I agree with you mate, it says a lot about someone when they get their jollies off at an ex Hibs manager failing here and elsewhere.

Nah, it really doesn't, not in the slightest.

[easty]

I agree with you mate, it says a lot about someone when they get their jollies off at an ex Hibs manager failing here and elsewhere.

What does it say?

[WestCoastHibby]

LJ is a good “contract manipulator “ and that’s about it

[Greenio]

What does it say?

It says they are lacking in empathy at a human level. But you know, it's a football forum, so, whatever. Happy new year!

[Vault Boy]

It says they are lacking in empathy at a human level. But you know, it's a football forum, so, whatever. Happy new year!

The man has likely made more money being a failure in two recent jobs than most of the posters on this forum will see in years of graft, I’d save the tears to be honest.

[He's here!]

When he had a full season he finished 5th. Our league start was grim (and the fact that he'd lost the crowd meant that it was time for him to go) but there were mitigating factors (the fixture schedule) that will have contributed towards that poor start in the league. I wouldn't have been betting against him turning around the poor start over a season into something at the very least respectable.

I certainly don't feel like he did a job on us. He was not quite as good as we needed him to be and tbh he wouldn't get into my top 5 worst Hibs managers. Taking a difficult job at Fleetwood so soon after leaving Hibs was madness and he may well have sunk his managerial career with that poor choice.

Some of the vitriol on here for Johnson relative to that which is reserved for Sweeties Calderwood and our relegation numpties is pretty baffling tbh.

Good post. I agree with pretty much all of that.

I wasn't especially impressed by him but he was, as you say, far from our worst boss. It remains to be seen whether Monty can do any better. On current evidence it doesn't look promising. He's certainly failed so far to come anywhere close to the best performances under LJ.

[blackpoolhibs]

Charlie Adam to takeover at Fleetwood.

:agree: Ross Wallace as assistant.

[Greenio]

The man has likely made more money being a failure in two recent jobs than most of the posters on this forum will see in years of graft, I’d save the tears to be honest.

No tears. Money has nothing to do with it

The level of ***** against LJ from Hibs fans is laughable. A manager that got us into Europe and through to a tie against prem league opposition. And folk feel the need to dance on his sacking cos why? He talked in a way they never liked and got sacked for a run of bad form? Seriously.

[Crunchie]

No tears. Money has nothing to do with it

The level of ***** against LJ from Hibs fans is laughable. A manager that got us into Europe and through to a tie against prem league opposition. And folk feel the need to dance on his sacking cos why? He talked in a way they never liked and got sacked for a run of bad form? Seriously.
Bang on again :aok:, I think Smartie sums it up perfectly in his post.

[Since452]

No tears. Money has nothing to do with it

The level of ***** against LJ from Hibs fans is laughable. A manager that got us into Europe and through to a tie against prem league opposition. And folk feel the need to dance on his sacking cos why? He talked in a way they never liked and got sacked for a run of bad form? Seriously.

Wouldn't waste your breath mate people have an irrational hatred of him for some bizarre reason which shows no sign of changing. We've had far, far worse than LJ.

[Silky]

The man has likely made more money being a failure in two recent jobs than most of the posters on this forum will see in years of graft, I’d save the tears to be honest.

He's far from the only one. Football management is littered with guys like that. Sign 4 year contracts, punted after 1 or 1.5. Same next job. It's par for the course.

[Paulie Walnuts]

He's far from the only one. Football management is littered with guys like that. Sign 4 year contracts, punted after 1 or 1.5. Same next job. It's par for the course.

We always hear that managers stop getting paid when they accept a new job, so if that was the case with LJ then he’ll have only got about 2 weeks wages after leaving Hibs.

[Centre Hawf]

We always hear that managers stop getting paid when they accept a new job, so if that was the case with LJ then he’ll have only got about 2 weeks wages after leaving Hibs.

I think those days are over now. It'll be likely that LJ left us with a pay out of some sort, it wouldn't have been anywhere near the rest of his contract for those who still think it works that way. It's likely he'd have walked away with a pre-agreed amount of money of a few months worth perhaps.

[JohnM1875]

I think those days are over now. It'll be likely that LJ left us with a pay out of some sort, it wouldn't have been anywhere near the rest of his contract for those who still think it works that way. It's likely he'd have walked away with a pre-agreed amount of money of a few months worth perhaps.

Is it not three months pay? Sure I’ve heard that before and it was one of the reasons a manager wasn’t keen on joining us.

[sleeping giant]

Is it not three months pay? Sure I’ve heard that before and it was one of the reasons a manager wasn’t keen on joining us.

It was mentioned when Appleton was being interviewed.

[Jones28]

New year, new leaf, didn’t work for Johnson with us but it’s time to put the Johnson stuff to bed imo.

[H18 SFR]

New year, new leaf, didn’t work for Johnson with us but it’s time to put the Johnson stuff to bed imo.

100#. Too much of a comfort blanket for too many.

[Centre Hawf]

Is it not three months pay? Sure I’ve heard that before and it was one of the reasons a manager wasn’t keen on joining us.

I think perhaps at the time of Appleton that was the case but from what I’ve read and heard it’s much more common practice to do a smaller pre agreed compensation package.

[Is It On....]

Nah, it really doesn't, not in the slightest.

The Sunderland thread on this subject is almost identical to ours...and he left there a long time before being at Hibs.

Maybe it's because what he articulated and what he delivered were very different propositions. The good times made you believe something special was about to begin and, as they say, its the hope that kills...

[VoltaireHibs]

Wouldn't waste your breath mate people have an irrational hatred of him for some bizarre reason which shows no sign of changing. We've had far, far worse than LJ.

I don't think anyone hates him, that would be irrational. I think folk are just having a laugh at the fact he spouted so much nonsense and appears to have very little to back it up. It's called banter, nothing awful or unusual in it so maybe step away from that moral high horse, you might get vertigo.

[Wilson]

I don't think anyone hates him, that would be irrational. I think folk are just having a laugh at the fact he spouted so much nonsense and appears to have very little to back it up. It's called banter, nothing awful or unusual in it so maybe step away from that moral high horse, you might get vertigo.

Change that to step down from the moral high horse. If vertigo is the issue then stepping down will help, more than stepping away.

As for the rest of your post. Utter guff. I won't look up the stats but Johnson doesn't have nothing to back up the nonsense he talks. He has a win/loss percentage over games managed if nothing else. Very recent credible results in Europe. You all know this but
... keep hating.

[easty]

Change that to step down from the moral high horse. If vertigo is the issue then stepping down will help, more than stepping away.

As for the rest of your post. Utter guff. I won't look up the stats but Johnson doesn't have nothing to back up the nonsense he talks. He has a win/loss percentage over games managed if nothing else. Very recent credible results in Europe. You all know this but
... keep hating.

“Keep hating” is the kind of message sign off I’d expect to see from Katie Price, or a 13 year old.

Has this thread really descended to that level ffs

[Bostonhibby]

“Keep hating” is the kind of message sign off I’d expect to see from Katie Price, or a 13 year old.

Has this thread really descended to that level ffsHave to say I agree, it's just impossible for me to tell what the level of emotion is that is being applied around a remark someone I have never met who happens to post a remark on an internet forum.

I do feel it's possible to have a whole range of emotions and motivations across the whole spectrum but how do we know why someone posts as they do?

Hatred certainly doesn't enter into my thoughts here, that's reserved for the very few people who I feel deliberately do bad things.


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[greenlex]

“Keep hating” is the kind of message sign off I’d expect to see from Katie Price, or a 13 year old.

Has this thread really descended to that level ffs

Was it ever above that level?

[Northernhibee]

Change that to step down from the moral high horse. If vertigo is the issue then stepping down will help, more than stepping away.

As for the rest of your post. Utter guff. I won't look up the stats but Johnson doesn't have nothing to back up the nonsense he talks. He has a win/loss percentage over games managed if nothing else. Very recent credible results in Europe. You all know this but
... keep hating.

Credible results in Europe like getting pumped off a team who are bang average by Andorran standards?

There are managers who haven’t done well here but I have a lot of respect for. Hecky is one of them. When you look at what LJ did to the likes of Jair I have little respect for him. Could have buried his career.

[Keith_M]

I'm not going to comment on whether or not I think LJ was the right man for Hibs but I'd like to remember the positives of his time here, including: beating Aberdeen 6-0 (regardless of the circumstances), and one of our best results in European competition, against Luzern.

[DH1875]

Was never a fan of his but folk lumping him in with the likes of Butcher is just ridiculous.

[Jones28]

Was never a fan of his but folk lumping him in with the likes of Butcher is just ridiculous.

Now there’s a name I will hold with nothing but contempt for the rest of my life.

[VoltaireHibs]

Change that to step down from the moral high horse. If vertigo is the issue then stepping down will help, more than stepping away.

As for the rest of your post. Utter guff. I won't look up the stats but Johnson doesn't have nothing to back up the nonsense he talks. He has a win/loss percentage over games managed if nothing else. Very recent credible results in Europe. You all know this but
... keep hating.

When folk resort to pedantry I know they're at it. I wonder how such a sensitive soul like you gets through the day. I don't think LJ was the worst manager, I don't hate him, I'm entirely ambivalent about him, but I do like that sense of schadenfreude that he selflessly generates with his nonsensical remarks about sharks/lions/ball manipulators etc.

People are just having a laugh about a man that spoke cobblers getting his jotters for speaking cobblers and not being very good at his job, yet presumably getting a fair whack for being bad at it. It's football, it's what fans do.

[Carheenlea]

Now offering management seminars on LinkedIn via zoom

https://www.hibsobserver.co.uk/news/24041786.ex-hibs-boss-johnson-offers-management-seminars-fleetwood-exit/

[Steven79]

Now offering management seminars on LinkedIn via zoom

https://www.hibsobserver.co.uk/news/24041786.ex-hibs-boss-johnson-offers-management-seminars-fleetwood-exit/If only his talent as half as big as his ego.

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[overdrive]

Now offering management seminars on LinkedIn via zoom

https://www.hibsobserver.co.uk/news/24041786.ex-hibs-boss-johnson-offers-management-seminars-fleetwood-exit/

That'll be a zoom call full of buzzwords and animal metaphors, then.

WTF does "periodisation" mean?

"Development of young players". Presumably he will advise not to play any.

"Media management". Dazzle them with buzzwords and metaphors then walk out mid interview.

[Hibee Daft]

Embodiment of corporate management bull****, smartest guy in the room but now hes the only one in it doing zoom calls

[neil7908]

Not going to lie, I'd be interested in the bit about interviews just to understand how he gets so many gigs.

[overdrive]

Not going to lie, I'd be interested in the bit about interviews just to understand how he gets so many gigs.

You can't deny is good at talking. Not necessarily talking sense but talking confidently. I was looking at his Linkedin after reading that story and someone had left him a recommendation after seeing him do a presentation at a conference. I think he would be great at that sort of thing and if he is good at that sort of thing, he will probably come across well at an interview. Being confident and knowing how to handle difficult questions is half the battle with an interview. It is why interviews aren't that good as a recruitment tool.

[jeffers]

After being sacked twice in the space of 4 months most people would take time out to reflect about what went wrong, not offer zoom sessions to tell everyone just how great you are.

[blackpoolhibs]

After being sacked twice in the space of 4 months most people would take time out to reflect about what went wrong, not offer zoom sessions to tell everyone just how great you are.

:agree:

[Trinity Hibee]

After being sacked twice in the space of 4 months most people would take time out to reflect about what went wrong, not offer zoom sessions to tell everyone just how great you are.

😂 true

[Carheenlea]

https://youtu.be/v4mMI0wd0OE?si=5rSpx_bde9jxeW0R

[Yorkshire HFC]

:agree:

I'm sure a lot of people trying to get into management / coaching / into a football club could learn a lot from him. I hope it's a success for him.

[Scouse Hibee]

Now offering management seminars on LinkedIn via zoom

https://www.hibsobserver.co.uk/news/24041786.ex-hibs-boss-johnson-offers-management-seminars-fleetwood-exit/

Heard he was sacked during the first zoom meeting.

[blackpoolhibs]

I'm sure a lot of people trying to get into management / coaching / into a football club could learn a lot from him. I hope it's a success for him.

Aye, how to bull**** your way through enough clubs to fill a golf bag, while being chased by a lion.

[Trinity Hibee]

I'm sure a lot of people trying to get into management / coaching / into a football club could learn a lot from him. I hope it's a success for him.

Hi Lee

[WeeRussell]

He certainly knows how to stay front of people’s minds, that’s for sure.

[Bostonhibby]

Now offering management seminars on LinkedIn via zoom

https://www.hibsobserver.co.uk/news/24041786.ex-hibs-boss-johnson-offers-management-seminars-fleetwood-exit/That was a disappointment I thought it was one of these terrific bingo sites we keep hearing about

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[Hibbyradge]

He certainly knows how to stay front of people’s minds, that’s for sure.

The point is the birds. They do all right. Don't they?

[WeeRussell]

The point is the birds. They do all right. Don't they?

He’s having a go at the lions now.

[Hibbyradge]

He’s having a go at the lions now.

:hilarious

[Hibiza]

Wonder why we ever employed him . Step forward Ben .

[ScottB]

Now offering management seminars on LinkedIn via zoom

https://www.hibsobserver.co.uk/news/24041786.ex-hibs-boss-johnson-offers-management-seminars-fleetwood-exit/

I mean, he’s clearly decent at interviews considering he keeps getting jobs despite his record, so there’s something to be learned!

[Hibbyradge]

Wonder why we ever employed him . Step forward Ben .

Ron Gordon employed him.

[hibeejeebies]

Slightly unpopular opinion but I have no axe to grind with Lee. He tried his best, seemingly rubbed a few players up the wrong way, and ultimately didn't work out for him here at Hibs.

Wish him well and glad to see he's keeping his pecker up.

[Brizo]

Embodiment of corporate management bull****, smartest guy in the room but now hes the only one in it doing zoom calls

100% :greengrin

If his managerial ability had been half as big as his ego he'd have been the manager he wants everyone to believe he is.

[Since452]

Johnson is starting to look better with every passing week under Montgomery. Reminds me of when Ross was punted. No issue with that as long as we replace them with better. We didn't then and we haven't again.

[J-C]

Johnson is starting to look better with every passing week under Montgomery. Reminds me of when Ross was punted. No issue with that as long as we replace them with better. We didn't then and we haven't again.

More trolling.

[TrinityHFC]

More trolling.

These sorts of responses are trolling.

You don’t need to like his opinion but if he wants to stick with it, that’s up to him.

A bit rich as well when some of you making these types of comments wanted the previous manager gone much earlier.

[Callum_62]

Johnson is starting to look better with every passing week under Montgomery. Reminds me of when Ross was punted. No issue with that as long as we replace them with better. We didn't then and we haven't again.I'm curious under what metric that opinion is formed?

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[DH1875]

I'm curious under what metric that opinion is formed?

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He's Lee Johnson.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Johnson is starting to look better with every passing week under Montgomery. Reminds me of when Ross was punted. No issue with that as long as we replace them with better. We didn't then and we haven't again.

Seriously? lJ joined in May 22. He had 6 weeks to assess the squad and our strengths/weaknesses. Questionable signings and 3 weeks in to July we were pumped out the league Cup (both on performances/points gained - loss to Falkirk and draw/pen loss to greenock morton at home as well as on a technicality from fielding rocky when he was suspended)

League wise we scraped last minute goals to win away at St Johnstone and draw with hearts at home. He led us to 2 batterings from hearts in the space of a couple weeks, an embarrassing result away in Andorra before leaving us bottom of the table

By no stretch can NM tenure be deemed a huge success thus far, but he picked up a team really struggling for form and confidence, got us in to the LC semi (should have been final) and has us sitting in the top 6 without A) a pre season and B) signing a single player - maybe I'm just a happy clapper, but I'm optimistic looking ahead under NM

[Caversham Green]

Wouldn't waste your breath mate people have an irrational hatred of him for some bizarre reason which shows no sign of changing. We've had far, far worse than LJ.

Irony?

[HFC93]

Johnson is starting to look better with every passing week under Montgomery. Reminds me of when Ross was punted. No issue with that as long as we replace them with better. We didn't then and we haven't again.

Do let us know how LJ's seminar goes and whether it's good value for money.

[The Modfather]

Johnson is starting to look better with every passing week under Montgomery. Reminds me of when Ross was punted. No issue with that as long as we replace them with better. We didn't then and we haven't again.

A random dig at Montgomery, while simultaneously defending Johnson, then disappear from the thread. Classic Since452.

[HoboHarry]

Johnson is starting to look better with every passing week under Montgomery. Reminds me of when Ross was punted. No issue with that as long as we replace them with better. We didn't then and we haven't again.
:troll:

[HendoDelivered]

Johnson is starting to look better with every passing week under Montgomery. Reminds me of when Ross was punted. No issue with that as long as we replace them with better. We didn't then and we haven't again.

🤣🤣🤣

[WeeRussell]

Johnson is starting to look better with every passing week under Montgomery. Reminds me of when Ross was punted. No issue with that as long as we replace them with better. We didn't then and we haven't again.

What’s happened in the last three passed weeks for you to feel the need to reiterate this point?

[TrinityHFC]

What’s happened in the last three passed weeks for you to feel the need to reiterate this point?

Why shouldn’t he make the point? There’s a queue of folk taking the piss out of a manager who actually did his best for us and achieved a decent position in his one full season. If he wants to add a suggestion that he wasn’t much worse than the new guy then why not?

Or perhaps let everyone know when it is okay to flip because most people having a go at Johnson seem to admit they never liked him or wanted him gone very early on. So that wasn’t acceptable or really, any view you might have is acceptable to say on a fans forum?

[Bostonhibby]

:troll:Surely LJ can't be far of bring him home status already?

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[jacomo]

Why shouldn’t he make the point? There’s a queue of folk taking the piss out of a manager who actually did his best for us and achieved a decent position in his one full season. If he wants to add a suggestion that he wasn’t much worse than the new guy then why not?

Or perhaps let everyone know when it is okay to flip because most people having a go at Johnson seem to admit they never liked him or wanted him gone very early on. So that wasn’t acceptable or really, any view you might have is acceptable to say on a fans forum?


Po Lee. The anti-Hearts / anti-English bias forced out a good man doing a fine job.

:wink:

[WeeRussell]

Why shouldn’t he make the point? There’s a queue of folk taking the piss out of a manager who actually did his best for us and achieved a decent position in his one full season. If he wants to add a suggestion that he wasn’t much worse than the new guy then why not?

Or perhaps let everyone know when it is okay to flip because most people having a go at Johnson seem to admit they never liked him or wanted him gone very early on. So that wasn’t acceptable or really, any view you might have is acceptable to say on a fans forum?

He can make the point. Every single day. And others are allowed to ask what has happened lately that he’s not happy with (lack of transfers, trip to Dubai, something he’s said, for example). I didn’t say it wasn’t acceptable, I asked a question.

Or perhaps you let us all know when anyone else can ask a question or make a post other than to relentlessly state the same ‘view’

[Since452]

A random dig at Montgomery, while simultaneously defending Johnson, then disappear from the thread. Classic Since452.

Disappear from the thread? Is there a rule you have to come back to the thread after posting? In a thread where people are gleefully taking the piss out a guy that tried his best for us and who constantly praised the club and it's fans I'm pointing out that we've replaced him with an inferior manager, in my opinion. Will keep on saying it as well. If that upsets people I couldn't really care less.

[Malthibby]

Why shouldn’t he make the point? There’s a queue of folk taking the piss out of a manager who actually did his best for us and achieved a decent position in his one full season. If he wants to add a suggestion that he wasn’t much worse than the new guy then why not?

Or perhaps let everyone know when it is okay to flip because most people having a go at Johnson seem to admit they never liked him or wanted him gone very early on. So that wasn’t acceptable or really, any view you might have is acceptable to say on a fans forum?


I liked him when he first arrived, unfortunately he didn't work & there was nothing to suggest giving him more time would have worked either.
Most managers try to do their best & equally unfortunately most start blethering nonsense and projecting their own deficiencies elsewhere when things
start going Pete Tong. He didn't get long at Fleetwood but the evidence that he's not someone we should pine for is growing.

[Since452]

He can make the point. Every single day. And others are allowed to ask what has happened lately that he’s not happy with (lack of transfers, trip to Dubai, something he’s said, for example). I didn’t say it wasn’t acceptable, I asked a question.

Or perhaps you let us all know when anyone else can ask a question or make a post other than to relentlessly state the same ‘view’

Fancy sending a list of things I'm allowed to post about? Cheers.

[Since452]

🤣🤣🤣

What's funny about it? Do you think Montgomery's football is better than Johnson's? Serious question?

[Hibiza]

LJ was a nice guy but just a total gob s***the.

[WeeRussell]

Fancy sending a list of things I'm allowed to post about? Cheers.

I’ll refrain from being rude and ask you to reread my post and reply to the question. Is there anything recent that’s causing your continuing an emphasised anti-Montgomery stance? Your blunt, huffy retort doesn’t make sense or look good as I never suggested you can’t post on whatever topic you like.

Again. You can post whatever you like - I thought I’d give you the chance to add some topical reasoning as a lot of people think you’re trolling/attention-seeking by posting the same thing every single day.

[Jones28]

Johnson is starting to look better with every passing week under Montgomery. Reminds me of when Ross was punted. No issue with that as long as we replace them with better. We didn't then and we haven't again.

Aw man stop it.

3/3 defeats in the league.
One of the worst results in our history in Europe.
Some good, lots of ****.

[WestFerryfield]

What's funny about it? Do you think Montgomery's football is better than Johnson's? Serious question?

It's a complete myth that NMs football is better than LJs was.
Admittedly the current manager has been stuck with the same players but the football is dull and pedestrian.

[HoboHarry]

It's a complete myth that NMs football is better than LJs was.
Admittedly the current manager has been stuck with the same players but the football is dull and pedestrian.
Your first post is a complaint. Bravo.

[tamig]

Johnson is starting to look better with every passing week under Montgomery. Reminds me of when Ross was punted. No issue with that as long as we replace them with better. We didn't then and we haven't again.

Every thread man. You’re boring a lot of good people off this site.

[scoopyboy]

Every thread man. You’re boring a lot of good people off this site.

He sure is, I'm thinking that Hibs aren't really for him and he would get more pleasure doing something else

[GreenGray]

Wouldn't waste your breath mate people have an irrational hatred of him for some bizarre reason which shows no sign of changing. We've had far, far worse than LJ.

Not a bizzare reason.

We should have capitalised on both Hearts and Aberdeen’s poor seasons and finished 3rd, guaranteeing European football and we didn’t.

We lost talented youth players like Laidlaw thanks to him, and I truly believe he has set us back a couple years.

He also treated us fans like idiots so there it’s no surprise there is irrational hatred.


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[WestFerryfield]

Your first post is a complaint. Bravo.

Really sorry,should I have said the football under NM is bright and entertaining and I'm really happy with recent results.
Is this not a fans forum where we give honest opinions ?

[JimBHibees]

What's funny about it? Do you think Montgomery's football is better than Johnson's? Serious question?

Yes clearly is. Andorra away St Mirren at home and Motherwell away were the worst football I have seen since Butcher was in.

[TrinityHFC]

Yes clearly is. Andorra away St Mirren at home and Motherwell away were the worst football I have seen since Butcher was in.

St Johnstone away recently beats any of those by a distance.

St Mirren at home was a bad result but other than a few minute spell when we gifted them 2 goals via Delf it was a decent enough game. Seen much worse.

Overall though , taking isolated games or a short run of games is easy to do under any manager we’ve had, good or bad. Taking a longer view of the whole season LH had, the Euro games excluding Andorra away - it was generally on the front foot and entertaining.

Most of the top 6 games at the end we played pretty well, hammered Aberdeen, plenty there to balance off 3 games during a start to the season that you’ve picked out.

Anyway, I’ve yet really to be entertained at all with NM. The semi was decent enough but ultimately we lost to ten men against a team we’ve otherwise beaten twice. Results wise we were a last minute equaliser away from already equalling 3 losses in a row.

It is particularly over defensive to be writing off criticism as coming from posters that are either Hearts fans or trolls.

[stoneyburn hibs]

Monty has pretty much the same record as Johnson except the shan patter.
The experiments have fallen a long way short
Proven Scottish manager next please

[Trinity Hibee]

Monty has pretty much the same record as Johnson except the shan patter.
The experiments have fallen a long way short
Proven Scottish manager next please

That can only mean one man

[WhileTheChief..]

Every thread man. You’re boring a lot of good people off this site.


He sure is, I'm thinking that Hibs aren't really for him and he would get more pleasure doing something else

Nope, It's the replies like yours that are boring and trolling.

Not everyone likes NM, you're going have to get used to that, and will probably read a lot more negative stuff in the next few months if results don't improve.

This forum has always been home to a wide variety of opinions and was all the better for it. It would be rubbish if it was full of the same people all just agreeing with each other.

[Eyrie]

That can only mean one man

But will St Johnstone let him leave?

[Eyrie]

Nope, It's the replies like yours that are boring and trolling.

Not everyone likes NM, you're going have to get used to that, and will probably read a lot more negative stuff in the next few months if results don't improve.

This forum has always been home to a wide variety of opinions and was all the better for it. It would be rubbish if it was full of the same people all just agreeing with each other.

Actually, what puts people off isn't negativity or positivity, it's when the same posters insist on repeating the same opinion citing the same evidence in every thread which adds nothing to the overall discussion. That's not just rubbish, it's boring rubbish.

[scoopyboy]

Nope, It's the replies like yours that are boring and trolling.

Not everyone likes NM, you're going have to get used to that, and will probably read a lot more negative stuff in the next few months if results don't improve.

This forum has always been home to a wide variety of opinions and was all the better for it. It would be rubbish if it was full of the same people all just agreeing with each other.

Get a grip, he is more than capable of answering for himself.

Trolling my a***

[jacomo]

Actually, what puts people off isn't negativity or positivity, it's when the same posters insist on repeating the same opinion citing the same evidence in every thread which adds nothing to the overall discussion. That's not just rubbish, it's boring rubbish.


:agree:

[Paulie Walnuts]

Actually, what puts people off isn't negativity or positivity, it's when the same posters insist on repeating the same opinion citing the same evidence in every thread which adds nothing to the overall discussion. That's not just rubbish, it's boring rubbish.

It’s a website for discussing Hibs. I’d much rather read people’s opinions on Hibs, good or bad, repeated or not, than read people’s opinions on other posters, who they likely know absolutely nothing about, which funnily enough, are usually criticisms of the posters that they repeat over and over, often along with some tasteless amateur diagnosis of mental health issues.

[Trinity Hibee]

But will St Johnstone let him leave?

😂

[Baldy Foghorn]

Not a bizzare reason.

We should have capitalised on both Hearts and Aberdeen’s poor seasons and finished 3rd, guaranteeing European football and we didn’t.

We lost talented youth players like Laidlaw thanks to him, and I truly believe he has set us back a couple years.

He also treated us fans like idiots so there it’s no surprise there is irrational hatred.


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Not sure you can label losing Laidlaw as his fault, he was wanting more money than we were offering

[The Modfather]

Not sure you can label losing Laidlaw as his fault, he was wanting more money than we were offering

Wasting a years development playing at a level he had long outgrown & watching his teammates in O’Connor & Macintyre get a sum total of a paltry 13 minutes can’t have helped make him think Hibs were the best team to develop at either.

[A Hi-Bee]

Do let us know how LJ's seminar goes and whether it's good value for money.

How much is he charging, may just sign up for some of this myself.
:cb

[Paulie Walnuts]

Wasting a years development playing at a level he had long outgrown & watching his teammates in O’Connor & Macintyre get a sum total of a paltry 13 minutes can’t have helped make him think Hibs were the best team to develop at either.

O’Connor is nowhere near good enough to have got more minutes than that from what I’ve seen of him.

[McD]

Disappear from the thread? Is there a rule you have to come back to the thread after posting? In a thread where people are gleefully taking the piss out a guy that tried his best for us and who constantly praised the club and it's fans I'm pointing out that we've replaced him with an inferior manager, in my opinion. Will keep on saying it as well. If that upsets people I couldn't really care less.



Tried his best? Can you point out a manager who hasn’t tried his best? It’s a pretty poor situation if that’s the best we can say about him.


If any of us got the chance to pull on the jersey we’d do our best, it doesn't mean we wouldn’t be awful at spfl standard. We’re also, collectively, quick to want rid of players who aren’t good enough, but for all the criticism that could be said about players, it’d be hard to say the vast majority weren’t trying their best.

[Tambo]

I do wonder how things would have went for LJ if he just got the needed upgrade on Jeggo and Campbell early on.

[jacomo]

I do wonder how things would have went for LJ if he just got the needed upgrade on Jeggo and Campbell early on.


It would have set a marker and we’d have shown our personalities on the pitch, you know?

[CapitalGreen]

Wasting a years development playing at a level he had long outgrown & watching his teammates in O’Connor & Macintyre get a sum total of a paltry 13 minutes can’t have helped make him think Hibs were the best team to develop at either.

Long outgrown? He was 17 for half of last season and he’s hardly pulling up trees playing against reserve teams and amateur clubs for Brentford B.

As for O’Connor and MacIntyre, were either ready for more minutes in the Premiership? One can’t get off the bench in the Championship and the other is playing for one of the weaker teams in League 1.

If Laidlaw had stayed here he’d likely have been out on loan himself this season playing adult football rather than continuing to play reserve football down South.

[Centre Hawf]

Long outgrown? He was 17 for half of last season and he’s hardly pulling up trees playing against reserve teams and amateur clubs for Brentford B.

As for O’Connor and MacIntyre, were either ready for more minutes in the Premiership? One can’t get off the bench in the Championship and the other is playing for one of the weaker teams in League 1.

If Laidlaw had stayed here he’d likely have been out on loan himself this season playing adult football rather than continuing to play reserve football down South.

Agreed. I want to see academy lads as much as the next person, but Laidlaw was merely a good youngster playing well in Dev squad games. Should he have probably played some minutes? Yeah I’d liked to have seen him especially considering Hoppe and Jair weren’t fancied by the time the split came round. But nonetheless Hibs shouldn’t be held to ransom by a youngster who hasn’t proven anything. No doubt his development would have been better served at Hibs but that was his decision to make and he’ll have to live with it however it turns out.

[xbar81]

do we think he'll get another job?

I canny remember him being that good a player for the yams but then again they did sign about 100 players at once round about the time.