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Ozyhibby
17-12-2023, 12:40 PM
Is Europe returning to the 1930’s?
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-news-agents/id1640878689?i=1000638808083
Fascinating and worrying podcast from Lewis Goodall.
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neil7908
17-12-2023, 02:12 PM
I'm quite worried.
I can feel myself getting angrier and angrier with politics and the world in general.
And I'm lucky - decent income, stable relationship, wonderful family and friends etc.
But reading the news makes me seethe. Although my political leanings are very much to left, it's so easy to see how rampant inequality, lying political class and corrupt media could easily push huge amounts of people in very worrying directions.
And sadly I don't see anyone offering a solution.
Pretty Boy
17-12-2023, 03:13 PM
I think apathy is a huge problem.
There isn't a political party in the UK that sits anywhere close to my personal political views. Every single one would force me to make too many concessions so I have reached a point at which I just don't vote. I get away with it in my constituency because only the SNP or Labour can win, if there was the risk of a Tory or Reform win then I'd probably hold my nose and vote for the least worst candidate. As always if the SSP stand a candidate then I'll vote for them just so the vote is registered, if they don't then I'll stay at home.
I think a lot of people under 40 feel similarly disenfranchised. Some are taken in by the easy solutions to complex problems offered by the far right (albeit I struggle to see how they keep falling for it given every time they are promised a solution to all their problems it never materialises). For many others they feel that same apathy that I do. People wonder why younger people are less inclined to vote than the older generations, at least in part it's because the mainstream parties offer very little when it comes to tackling the problems facing younger people. The status quo has failed us and no one is offering a solution.
Ozyhibby
17-12-2023, 08:14 PM
I think apathy is a huge problem.
There isn't a political party in the UK that sits anywhere close to my personal political views. Every single one would force me to make too many concessions so I have reached a point at which I just don't vote. I get away with it in my constituency because only the SNP or Labour can win, if there was the risk of a Tory or Reform win then I'd probably hold my nose and vote for the least worst candidate. As always if the SSP stand a candidate then I'll vote for them just so the vote is registered, if they don't then I'll stay at home.
I think a lot of people under 40 feel similarly disenfranchised. Some are taken in by the easy solutions to complex problems offered by the far right (albeit I struggle to see how they keep falling for it given every time they are promised a solution to all their problems it never materialises). For many others they feel that same apathy that I do. People wonder why younger people are less inclined to vote than the older generations, at least in part it's because the mainstream parties offer very little when it comes to tackling the problems facing younger people. The status quo has failed us and no one is offering a solution.
Young people want a house at a reasonable price so they can settle down with the partner of their choice in an area of their choosing. If that doesn’t happen then there is a problem. Some will look for an easy solution.
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lapsedhibee
17-12-2023, 09:37 PM
Is Europe returning to the 1930’s?
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-news-agents/id1640878689?i=1000638808083
Fascinating and worrying podcast from Lewis Goodall.
May be returning to the 1930s, but that's not as bad as people using pronouns.
A(nother) cretin from the HoL: https://twitter.com/ProfTimBale/status/1736290207463248079
grunt
25-04-2024, 08:37 AM
Wasn't sure where to post this, but this thread seemed appropriate.
Here's Reform UK Deputy Chair Ben Habib saying that migrants should be allowed to drown in the Channel.
Amazingly, it seemed too much even for Hartley-Brewer.
https://x.com/MatthewStadlen/status/1783133570128605695
JHB, "You would leave asylum seekers to drown in the channel?"
Ben Habib, "Absolutely"
JHB, "That is not a policy that a civilised country should endorse"
BH, "Why is that uncivilised?"
JHB, "Because we don't leave people to drown.. I don't want these people here, but I wouldn't leave them to drown.. I don't think anyone in the border force or Royal Navy that would do that"
BH, "I'm afraid border force means using force at the border"
lapsedhibee
25-04-2024, 11:07 AM
Wasn't sure where to post this, but this thread seemed appropriate.
Here's Reform UK Deputy Chair Ben Habib saying that migrants should be allowed to drown in the Channel.
Amazingly, it seemed too much even for Hartley-Brewer.
https://x.com/MatthewStadlen/status/1783133570128605695
BH, "I'm afraid border force means using force at the border"
I'd take from that last line that Mr Habib wouldn't be happy just passively allowing people to drown, he'd want their heads pushed under the water to make sure.
Stairway 2 7
25-04-2024, 12:14 PM
Wasn't sure where to post this, but this thread seemed appropriate.
Here's Reform UK Deputy Chair Ben Habib saying that migrants should be allowed to drown in the Channel.
Amazingly, it seemed too much even for Hartley-Brewer.
https://x.com/MatthewStadlen/status/1783133570128605695
Absolute ****. I think the more tv pieces and policies they show the more the polls will be far off their general election showing.
I think most polling for them won't vote, the rest will vote tory
MKHIBEE
25-04-2024, 12:48 PM
Wasn't sure where to post this, but this thread seemed appropriate.
Here's Reform UK Deputy Chair Ben Habib saying that migrants should be allowed to drown in the Channel.
Amazingly, it seemed too much even for Hartley-Brewer.
https://x.com/MatthewStadlen/status/1783133570128605695
Surely a case for some police attention? If he said he would leave Israelis to drown he would be in lock up already
Keith_M
25-04-2024, 08:28 PM
What's he gonna say next, send all the Pakistanis back home?
Oh, wait...
Hiber-nation
25-04-2024, 09:58 PM
Surely a case for some police attention? If he said he would leave Israelis to drown he would be in lock up already
Aye no doubt about that!!
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