New Parking Rules coming into force in Edinburgh

[grunt]

From January parking on pavements, at dropped kerbs and double parking will be banned in Edinburgh. The new rules will "make it safer for pedestrians, people with disabilities, wheelchair users and people pushing prams or buggies".

Find out more http://edinburgh.gov.uk/newparkingrules

https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/d...ohibitions.pdf (https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s63290/Item%208.5%20-%20Implementing%20new%20parking%20prohibitions.pdf )

This is going to be fun. They've identified 556 clusters (clusters of roads) across Edinburgh where pavement parking is a problem, and it's more than 10% of the roads surveyed. They say that these roads will require interventions to help with the new rules. Such interventions stop short of being anything useful, like widening roads. The proposed interventions include "community engagement and increased enforcement".

This is going to be a disaster.

[Mon Dieu4]

This is like a wet dream for a few people that keep popping up on my Twitter feed, even more opportunities to be a grassing bassa

[hibee]

It’s perfectly reasonable to expect to be able to walk and push a pram or wheelchair down a pavement. Theres some streets in Portobello where the majority of the pavement on both sides of the road are completely blocked by cars, must be a nightmare for disabled people or those with young kids.

The problem will be IF they actually enforce it where will all the cars go, the nearby streets will just become busier which will give them the opportunity to extend residents permits even further out of the city.

I do have sympathy for impacted drivers but on the other hand I’ve been driving over 30 years and can honestly say I’ve never felt the need to park on a pavement.

[grunt]

It’s perfectly reasonable to expect to be able to walk and push a pram or wheelchair down a pavement. Theres some streets in Portobello where the majority of the pavement on both sides of the road are completely blocked by cars, must be a nightmare for disabled people or those with young kids.

The problem will be IF they actually enforce it where will all the cars go, the nearby streets will just become busier which will give them the opportunity to extend residents permits even further out of the city.

I do have sympathy for impacted drivers but on the other hand I’ve been driving over 30 years and can honestly say I’ve never felt the need to park on a pavement.
If me and my neighbour across the road don't park on the pavement, no traffic will pass up and down our road.

[hibee]

If me and my neighbour across the road don't park on the pavement, no traffic will pass up and down our road.

I agree and those are examples of people I have sympathy with. I’d bet the council solution will be double yellow lines on one side of the road and 50% of the cars will then have to park somewhere else.

Once the surrounding streets get full they will use it as an excuse for more permits.

[Hibbyradge]

Parking on the pavement can cause blind people with guide dogs to walk on the road.

[Pretty Boy]

Whether people like it or not Edinburgh just isn't designed for as many cars as there are on the roads nowadays and how big they are.

My parents house was built in the 1930s and the streets simply can't accommodate parking on both sides without at least one of them bumping up on the pavement slightly. If they don't then a car can squeeze through at a push but when I lived there I can remember ambulances and fire engines being stuck and desperately trying doors asking people to move their parked cars as the road is just too narrow. I doubt that was an issue 90 years ago and who could have foreseen it would be?

New developments aren't much better. I live in a new build estate and it's horrendously designed for both pedestrians and drivers. Same as the urban hellscape that is Leith Walk; I suppose it's what happens when you get design by committee rather than one overall plan, you end up with a patchwork that pleases nobody. Pavement clutter, too few loading bays, confusing road markings, cycle lanes that intersect pedestrian rights of way etc etc.

Pavement parking isn't really on but the city is so ill suited to mass private transport that it often feels unavoidable. If the traffic wardens take a wander around Lochend on game day at ER they will rake in an absolute fortune.

[SteveHFC]

This is like a wet dream for a few people that keep popping up on my Twitter feed, even more opportunities to be a grassing bassa

Cllr Arthur will be one of those.

[Pretty Boy]

Cllr Arthur will be one of those.

Cllr McSelfie

[Just Alf]

Parking on the pavement can cause blind people with guide dogs to walk on the road.Neighbours constantly park on the pavement outside our house, right up to the drive so when someone is also parked opposite our drives are unusable, one time before lock down an old boy on a scooter got hit by a car as he was trying to get past on the road, luckily the car was ramming on the brakes and was about 5mph on impact, cracked plastic and no injury.

Folks like that need dealt with and if there weren't so many ignorant folks around there'd be no need for the legislation :dunno:

[Moulin Yarns]

If me and my neighbour across the road don't park on the pavement, no traffic will pass up and down our road.

When I lived in Falkirk, close to the old brockville stadium the roads were narrow so it made sense for all cars to park on the same side.

[overdrive]

Cllr Arthur will be one of those.

It’s one of the few times I agree with him - and I absolutely despise him.

My sister in law is in a wheelchair and cars on pavements are a major issue.

[marinello59]

It’s one of the few times I agree with him - and I absolutely despise him.

My sister in law is in a wheelchair and cars on pavements are a major issue.

Pavements are for people. Parking over the kerb is a relatively recent thing, it was accepted that you just didn't do it as it was incredibly selfish. We are all going to have to learn to behave differently. As electric cars become the norm we really should be looking beyond individual car ownership to something like a shared on demand model. It's that or the planet.

[Jones28]

I grew up on Jessfield terrace in Newhaven and left 10 years ago, but the difference in cars on the street was massive even in my 15 or so years living there.

During the day when I was a kid the street was practically empty, we could play football in the road and cars weren’t an issue. Comparing that to when I left and cars were double parked so much that it was basically a one way street.

[J-C]

I thought parking on a pavement was always against the law, I was surprised when I heard about this coming in January, only problem is who's regulating it, there's very few police and wardens as it is.

[Ozyhibby]

I thought parking on a pavement was always against the law, I was surprised when I heard about this coming in January, only problem is who's regulating it, there's very few police and wardens as it is.

Self funding with the fines?


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[danhibees1875]

If me and my neighbour across the road don't park on the pavement, no traffic will pass up and down our road.

They're going to have to make it illegal to block the road (if it isn't already?) if people see that as the solution as opposed to parking elsewhere. :greengrin


Worthy of the pet peeve thread is people who park at dropped kerbs - seen a woman in a mobility chair earlier unable to get back up the opposite kerb and maneuvering out into the main road to continue her journey (presumably until the next available dropped kerb).

[speedy_gonzales]

I thought parking on a pavement was always against the law, I was surprised when I heard about this coming in January, only problem is who's regulating it, there's very few police and wardens as it is.

Currently as it stands, it's not illegal to park on the pavement (the law has/is being passed to make it illegal though).
The irony is, it is currently illegal to drive on the pavement. So how are those parked cars getting there, levitating????

[CropleyWasGod]

Currently as it stands, it's not illegal to park on the pavement (the law has/is being passed to make it illegal though).
The irony is, it is currently illegal to drive on the pavement. So how are those parked cars getting there, levitating????

Presumably, they would have had to be witnessed driving on to the pavement. Now, they don't need that evidence.

[SHODAN]

In our village there's a guy that lives at the top of a blind summit on the main road in and out, and despite having an enormous driveway that's not enough for his 500 cars and there's usually an SUV on the pavement. This means that not only do you have to go slow as **** in case someone is coming at you head on, wheelchairs and prams etc have to walk onto this dangerous part of the road.

It's pure selfishness and I can't wait til Fife bring this in so the **** can get towed.

[overdrive]

They're going to have to make it illegal to block the road (if it isn't already?) if people see that as the solution as opposed to parking elsewhere. :greengrin


Worthy of the pet peeve thread is people who park at dropped kerbs - seen a woman in a mobility chair earlier unable to get back up the opposite kerb and maneuvering out into the main road to continue her journey (presumably until the next available dropped kerb).

Or back the way she came when she encounters a car parked on the pavement between there and the next dropped kerb as we’ve had to do a few times. There’s a pedestrianised bit in my street and quite often there’s cars parked at the ends of it. There was once we pushed my SIL up it, couldn’t get out because of a parked car. Turned around to find at the other end another car had parked there in the meantime so we were effectively blocked in.

[500miles]

How is Lochend drive going to work?

[Jack]

How is Lochend drive going to work?

Lochend Drive isn't going to work, as it is at the moment, as anyone wanting to travel on a 25 bus during and after the Motherwell match will have witnessed! Neither are the huge number of similar streets around Edinburgh.

Cammy Day our respected leader of the council has a solution though. Double yellow lines everywhere.

Pavement parking illegal from 29th January.

[grunt]

Lochend Drive isn't going to work, as it is at the moment, as anyone wanting to travel on a 25 bus during and after the Motherwell match will have witnessed! Neither are the huge number of similar streets around Edinburgh.
I see LRT buses no longer go down Lochend Road. Edit: as pointed out below, I mean Lochend Drive.

[Pete70]

I think you might mean Lochend Drive. The 25 stopped going along that road in January.

[J-C]

Still seeing vans and cars on pavements, car at lights at Jock's Lodge taking stuff out and into the pub and today work vans on the corner of Clifton Ter. Who is actually policing this and how will it get stopped?

[Ozyhibby]

Still seeing vans and cars on pavements, car at lights at Jock's Lodge taking stuff out and into the pub and today work vans on the corner of Clifton Ter. Who is actually policing this and how will it get stopped?

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240304/b17818db8dde2cc3ad86a53146d8bd35.jpg

Council would like the powers to do so. [emoji106]


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[grunt]

I think you might mean Lochend Drive. The 25 stopped going along that road in January.
You are of course correct.

[grunt]

Still seeing vans and cars on pavements, car at lights at Jock's Lodge taking stuff out and into the pub and today work vans on the corner of Clifton Ter. Who is actually policing this and how will it get stopped?And yet in my quiet street with very little traffic, every day we get a visit from a Council employee on a moped who hands out PCNs to anyone parked on the pavement. Perhaps they're targeting the easy options?

[J-C]

And yet in my quiet street with very little traffic, every day we get a visit from a Council employee on a moped who hands out PCNs to anyone parked on the pavement. Perhaps they're targeting the easy options?

Like the easy option for bad parking, wardens are happy to go around booking cars 30 seconds over their parking in George St but ignore vans and cars parked blocking roads etc, all they say to you is, they have 10 mins leeway before I can book them.

[bod]

If I recieved a ticket for being less than 5 minutes over my time I’d contest it as my time piece might not be in conjunction with the traffic wardens,let alone 30 seconds

[J-C]

If I recieved a ticket for being less than 5 minutes over my time I’d contest it as my time piece might not be in conjunction with the traffic wardens,let alone 30 seconds

Unfortunately they go by the time on the ticket, pretty sure the wardens will know that, they're wee machines will be spot on time

[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/edinreporter/status/1772903915526189097?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A


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