Hugh Dallas

[Carheenlea]

Openly admitting that some clubs are refereed to different standards than others.

We’ve known for years that the game is rigged up here, but admission of cheating clarifies that.

https://x.com/craigwhytereal/status/1722567789204910234?s=46

[Hibernian Verse]

Openly admitting that some clubs are refereed to different standards than others.

We’ve known for years that the game is rigged up here, but admission of cheating clarifies that.

https://x.com/craigwhytereal/status/1722567789204910234?s=46

Not seeing much wrong here. He used his common sense and didn't book a player for celebrating with his own fans after scoring in an Old Firm match. Also, it was Celtic and he was made out to be a Rangers sympathising ref for years.

The rule didn't actually come into effect until 9 years later, and till then was up to the referees discretion.

Earth shattering stuff. Clickbait, actually.

[BoltonHibee]

Not seeing much wrong here. He used his common sense and didn't book a player for celebrating with his own fans after scoring in an Old Firm match. Also, it was Celtic and he was made out to be a Rangers sympathising ref for years.

The rule didn't actually come into effect until 9 years later, and till then was up to the referees discretion.

Earth shattering stuff. Clickbait, actually.

So he’s allowed to ignore the rules ( which any other player would have been booked, and in that example sent off). He’s a cheat, simple as that


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[Hibernian Verse]

So he’s allowed to ignore the rules ( which any other player would have been booked, and in that example sent off). He’s a cheat, simple as that


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You must have missed the part where it didn't become a rule till 9 years later.

[A Hi-Bee]

They all by definition have an inherent bias, with most to the Atillas and some to the Tic, non-have any bias to the east coast clubs, perhaps the diet Atillas get more breaks than most versus Hibs. They do but I think that is more to do with the team the diet Attilas are playing against, they have certainly had more decisions and goals chalked off than the other way around, it aint no coincidence.
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[Jim44]

Not seeing much wrong here. He used his common sense and didn't book a player for celebrating with his own fans after scoring in an Old Firm match. Also, it was Celtic and he was made out to be a Rangers sympathising ref for years.
The rule didn't actually come into effect until 9 years later, and till then was up to the referees discretion.
Earth shattering stuff. Clickbait, actually.

He is a currant bun sympathiser. In a recent FF match thread, there was a photo-shopped image of Dallas in the VAR booth sporting a Rangers top. The implication was that they were delighted and acknowledged that he was a well known Rangers sympathiser.

[Hibernian Verse]

He is a currant bun sympathiser. In a recent FF match thread, there was a photo-shopped image of Dallas in the VAR booth sporting a Rangers top. The implication was that they were delighted and acknowledged that he was a well known Rangers sympathiser.

Can't say I frequent Follow Follow. I know he is, but it was interesting that in this case it was a Celtic player that got off with it. I worded it wrong apologies.

[darwenhibby]

His performance in an old firm game in 1999 where the stickies won the league at CP was unreal
I had blue customers at the time telling me how well he handled the game.
His next tic game was against us at ER in the September and gave them everything
Crap ref and nothing has changed with the refs

[GloryGlory]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/11497765/celtic-liam-scales-naive-champions-league-domestic-tackles/

Liam Scales admitting that Celtic get away with fouls in the SPFL that European refs give against them.

[Trinity Hibee]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/11497765/celtic-liam-scales-naive-champions-league-domestic-tackles/

Liam Scales admitting that Celtic get away with fouls in the SPFL that European refs give against them.

That’s always been the case with different styles of refereeing domestic and European football. What we should want though is consistency for all teams domestically which currently doesn’t happen. A penalty for an OF team should be a pen for any other team for the same offence.

[Pretty Boy]

Referees ignore the rules all the time and pundits and fans often praise them for it. If a player makes a tackle in the first 10 minutes that is by definition a bookable offence how often does it go unpunished and how often do pundits and fans say 'good refereeing', 'used his common sense' etc etc. A booking is a booking regardless of when it occurs.

The example given in the OP may not be the best to highlight the point but there is no doubt OF games in particular are refereed differently to other games.

Referees are only human and I think that will impact how they referee certain teams as well. Give a dodgy decision against St Johnstone or Motherwell and you will get a bit of abuse from the stands and a bit of grief online. Do the same v Celtic or Rangers and you potentially unleash hell on yourself. Celtic fans publishing an address for Dallas online years ago and his windows getting tanned. Rangers fans going over Willie Collum's CV with a fine tooth comb because it suggests he's a 'pape'. Dougie MacDonald having half the Celtic fanbase after him, orchestrated by their then manager, because he consulted his linesman and changed a decision etc etc. I'd probably referee them differently too if it was me.

That doesn't make it right but I don't buy into the idea it is purely incompetence. I think there is a degree of fear, self preservation and in some cases an inherent bias, the latter could definitely be described as cheating. On the point about self preservation there is a definite closing of ranks as well. I mentioned Dougie MacDonald earlier; when our old pal Craig Levein ended up in a row with him after criticising his performance at Ibrox when Rangers played Dundee Utd he was fined. He refused to pay the fine, it all got a bit silly with lawyers involved and whatever. Levein claims that a couple of weeks later a referee at another game openly told him 'you're getting **** all today' after he contested an early decision. Like any profession there will be an element of closing the ranks and looking after their own.

[WeeRussell]

Referees ignore the rules all the time and pundits and fans often praise them for it. If a player makes a tackle in the first 10 minutes that is by definition a bookable offence how often does it go unpunished and how often do pundits and fans say 'good refereeing', 'used his common sense' etc etc. A booking is a booking regardless of when it occurs.

The example given in the OP may not be the best to highlight the point but there is no doubt OF games in particular are refereed differently to other games.

Referees are only human and I think that will impact how they referee certain teams as well. Give a dodgy decision against St Johnstone or Motherwell and you will get a bit of abuse from the stands and a bit of grief online. Do the same v Celtic or Rangers and you potentially unleash hell on yourself. Celtic fans publishing an address for Dallas online years ago and his windows getting tanned. Rangers fans going over Willie Collum's CV with a fine tooth comb because it suggests he's a 'pape'. Dougie MacDonald having half the Celtic fanbase after him, orchestrated by their then manager, because he consulted his linesman and changed a decision etc etc. I'd probably referee them differently too if it was me.

That doesn't make it right but I don't buy into the idea it is purely incompetence. I think there is a degree of fear, self preservation and in some cases an inherent bias, the latter could definitely be described as cheating. On the point about self preservation there is a definite closing of ranks as well. I mentioned Dougie MacDonald earlier; when our old pal Craig Levein ended up in a row with him after criticising his performance at Ibrox when Rangers played Dundee Utd he was fined. He refused to pay the fine, it all got a bit silly with lawyers involved and whatever. Levein claims that a couple of weeks later a referee at another game openly told him 'you're getting **** all today' after he contested an early decision. Like any profession there will be an element of closing the ranks and looking after their own.

I’m sure I’ve stated it before but your opening paragraph is one of my pet hates.

It’s not about ‘applying common sense’ or letting things go because it’s a derby or you want to let the game flow. They should be following the rules rigidly and refereeing as much like robots as possible.

[matty_f]

I’m sure I’ve stated it before but your opening paragraph is one of my pet hates.

It’s not about ‘applying common sense’ or letting things go because it’s a derby or you want to let the game flow. They should be following the rules rigidly and refereeing as much like robots as possible.

I don’t mind refs using common sense if we all get a shot of it. Not a fan of them using it to not book Celtic or Rangers players though.

[MWHIBBIES]

I think, all things considered and the technology available, refereeing ability and standards are at an all time low.

[The Tubs]

The best entertainment I can imagine is Craig Napier being given the next weedgie hatefest.

[Smartie]

I think, all things considered and the technology available, refereeing ability and standards are at an all time low.

Agreed.

And as you hint at with the "technology available" part, that really shouldn't be the case.

As an aside, I thought some of the refereeing in our European games this year was every bit as bad, if not worse, than the refereeing we experience in Scotland.

We've had some international tournaments recently when it's felt like the refereeing has been to a very high standard with VAR used effectively. It seems to have gone to pieces a bit not just in Scotland but South of the border and in Europe too.

[Chorley Hibee]

Agreed.

And as you hint at with the "technology available" part, that really shouldn't be the case.

As an aside, I thought some of the refereeing in our European games this year was every bit as bad, if not worse, than the refereeing we experience in Scotland.

We've had some international tournaments recently when it's felt like the refereeing has been to a very high standard with VAR used effectively. It seems to have gone to pieces a bit not just in Scotland but South of the border and in Europe too.

I think VAR plays a role in this, due to officials becoming lazy (both mentally and physically) whilst safe in the knowledge the technology will bail them out.

[MWHIBBIES]

I think VAR plays a role in this, due to officials becoming lazy (both mentally and physically) whilst safe in the knowledge the technology will bail them out.

Linesman are literally pointless now. They do nothing.

[Tyler Durden]

I think, all things considered and the technology available, refereeing ability and standards are at an all time low.

I think the rules really don’t help either. Rashfords red card the other night for example….. it’s no longer possible for a player to accidentally hurt an opponent. Now it’s deemed reckless and dangerous and you’re off - intent doesn’t matter as much.

Then we have the farce of handballs.

When you factor in VAR getting involved in way too much, it’s just gone mad.

[Chorley Hibee]

Linesman are literally pointless now. They do nothing.

I say this repeatedly.

They frequently can't even award a throw-in without seeking help from the referee.

[ancient hibee]

He is a currant bun sympathiser. In a recent FF match thread, there was a photo-shopped image of Dallas in the VAR booth sporting a Rangers top. The implication was that they were delighted and acknowledged that he was a well known Rangers sympathiser.

Wrong Dallas. Surely Hugh isn’t still involved.

[Eyrie]

Wrong Dallas. Surely Hugh isn’t still involved.

I'd think it reasonable to assume that the incompetent beneficiary of nepotism Andrew supports the same team as his father.

[Pretty Boy]

Wrong Dallas. Surely Hugh isn’t still involved.

Poor Hugh lost his job for sharing a sectarian email. Nothing to see here.......

[ancient hibee]

Yes I know. The post I referred to seemed to think it was Hugh in the VAR booth.

[Jim44]

Wrong Dallas. Surely Hugh isn’t still involved.

It was the old man Dallas. Whether he is now involved or not, it doesn’t matter, the point is that they delight in having referees in their pocket.