Vente

[patlowe]

Something I feel is going slightly below the radar at the moment is Vente's quality and composure in finding teammates in and around the box. You look at his two assists last night, the one at Tynie, the chances he set up that were squandered on Saturday - the guy's decision making and weight of pass in the final third is so impressive for me, on top of an outstanding work rate. The problem...how do we get our most natural finisher on the end of things himself?

[B.H.F.C]

He was better and more involved in the game last night. Needs a goal but two good assists won’t do him any harm. Hopefully he can get back scoring on Saturday.

[Unseen work]

He’s a quality player.

Finishing, touch, movement and passing too.

What we need is to give him the ball more.

Keep playing the style we are but 20-30 yards further up the pitch, part of the issue is that Youan is our main attacking threat who isn’t one to play intricate passes, more of a head down and go.

So we need Newell, Levitt and Jair to be closer to Vente and play the 1-2’s.

Give him a chance and I’d always fancy him to score

[Scottie]

He’s a quality player.

Give him a chance and I’d always fancy him to score
:agree: He is a very clever player & have high hopes for the lad. Give him the chances and he'll score.

[Partyraiser]

The boy's a baller. We need to find a way to create chances for him

[B.H.F.C]

The boy's a baller. We need to find a way to create chances for him

I think a big part of it is on him. He does a lot of good work and although he looks a good finisher, I’m not sure he’s one of them who will instinctively be there for a tap in. Tavares put a couple of balls right in to the 6 yard box that nobody was on the end of last night. Similar in the semi final, there were a number of balls across the face of goal and nobody there. Need our centre forwards getting in on the end of that type of thing.

[Donegal Hibby]

The boy's a baller. We need to find a way to create chances for him

He's a penalty box striker and needs to be played in there rather than asking him to play deep which we have been doing.

[ancient hibee]

He's a penalty box striker and needs to be played in there rather than asking him to play deep which we have been doing.
Yes we don’t really have two up front as it’s generally held because Vente is playing like a midfielder. He should be told to stay up and Levitt could do what Vente does with Newell and Jeggo behind him. We can still call it 442.

[JimBHibees]

He's a penalty box striker and needs to be played in there rather than asking him to play deep which we have been doing.

Not last night and he gets two assists

[Billy Whizz]

Where did he play with his Dutch team, right up top?

[Allant1981]

We need to start giving him more service in the box, he is a good footballer but we need our goalscorer scoring goals

[JeMeSouviens]

I think a big part of it is on him. He does a lot of good work and although he looks a good finisher, I’m not sure he’s one of them who will instinctively be there for a tap in. Tavares put a couple of balls right in to the 6 yard box that nobody was on the end of last night. Similar in the semi final, there were a number of balls across the face of goal and nobody there. Need our centre forwards getting in on the end of that type of thing.

Agree with this. On the bold bit, anyone else for a 3 way Monty-Cumdog-Hibs reunion?

[Donegal Hibby]

Not last night and he gets two assists

Yep , last night he did play as the main striker and Campbell played deeper who took his goal very well . Both players worked there socks off too .

[Haymaker]

Agree with this. On the bold bit, anyone else for a 3 way Monty-Cumdog-Hibs reunion?

:hyper bring back The Cumdog!

[TheGog]

Vente has been putting in some shifts recently and hasn’t had a shocking performance. Always a 7.

I just feel we aren’t using him correctly. He needs to be on the last man and within the 18 yard box.

To many times he’s out wide or coming deep trying to create something. He started off with us scoring goals now he’s more a false 9.

Use him properly he’s a unreal player and one of the best natural finishers in the league.

[Clarence]

Vente has been putting in some shifts recently and hasn’t had a shocking performance. Always a 7.

I just feel we aren’t using him correctly. He needs to be on the last man and within the 18 yard box.

To many times he’s out wide or coming deep trying to create something. He started off with us scoring goals now he’s more a false 9.

Use him properly he’s a unreal player and one of the best natural finishers in the league.

Exactly where I’m at. Keep him in and around the box and he’ll score. Seems mad not to deploy him that way.

[J-C]

Clever player, not only scores but assists, will only get better.

[Brightside]

Where did he play with his Dutch team, right up top?

No. Exactly the way he plays for us.

[Ronniekirk]

Vente has been putting in some shifts recently and hasn’t had a shocking performance. Always a 7.

I just feel we aren’t using him correctly. He needs to be on the last man and within the 18 yard box.

To many times he’s out wide or coming deep trying to create something. He started off with us scoring goals now he’s more a false 9.

Use him properly he’s a unreal player and one of the best natural finishers in the league.

Agree other forwards aren’t exactly firing in the goals so let’s find a way to give him more opportunities in front of goal and he will do what he did in his first five or six games fir us and score

[noz]

whats the story, maybe the stats guys will know, has he ever last the full 90 mins yet?

[Nicho87]

whats the story, maybe the stats guys will know, has he ever last the full 90 mins yet?

Monty said after the game he had picked up the sickness bug in the squad. He could barely move after half time or words to that effect.

I thought Vente was pissed off when he was subbed but I’m thinking he was just ill.

[007]

whats the story, maybe the stats guys will know, has he ever last the full 90 mins yet?

The story is he puts in a massive shift every game, scores goals and assists. Excellent player.

We sold Nisbet for around £2m and replaced him with Vente for £700k, brilliant bit of business.

[Bostonhibby]

The story is he puts in a massive shift every game, scores goals and assists. Excellent player.

We sold Nisbet for around £2m and replaced him with Vente for £700k, brilliant bit of business.Watched him closely today, terrific footballer and a team player the way he puts himself about when he isn't getting the service he needs.

We aren't playing to his strengths unfortunately just now but his head doesn't go down.

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[GreenArmy1875]

During the sub Hibs TV showed Monty pointing to his stomach after what looks like a fan sharing his thoughts on the sub

[B.H.F.C]

Watched him closely today, terrific footballer and a team player the way he puts himself about when he isn't getting the service he needs.

We aren't playing to his strengths unfortunately just now but his head doesn't go down.

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I thought he was poor today.

It’s clear that he’s a good player but he didn’t do the basics well today. Touch was off when the ball came in to him first half. A lot getting put down to service but I think we need to see a bit more from him. More of a general point as he was decent during the week and obviously toiling today.

[neil7908]

Watched him closely today, terrific footballer and a team player the way he puts himself about when he isn't getting the service he needs.

We aren't playing to his strengths unfortunately just now but his head doesn't go down.

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Agreed. We aren't creating a huge amount at the moment but I think he'll do brilliantly with the right player alongside him. Ideally someone that's a bit larger and can win some headers.

[Keepthefaith]

I thought he was poor today.

It’s clear that he’s a good player but he didn’t do the basics well today. Touch was off when the ball came in to him first half. A lot getting put down to service but I think we need to see a bit more from him. More of a general point as he was decent during the week and obviously toiling today.

Monty confirmed he was close to collapsing due to a bug when he brought him off. guys a player for sure and we missed him second half - actually we missed the full strength Vente first half too, as I thought that was the poorest we'd played overall in the last few games. glad to have a week to recharge, confident he'll get amongst the goals when we come back

[JimBHibees]

whats the story, maybe the stats guys will know, has he ever last the full 90 mins yet?

The derby

[AL-Qaholik]

A £700k striker who doesn’t score goals.
That’s about as much as I feel I need to know.
Compare his goalscoring record to Van Veen, Miovski, Shankland etc -
doesn’t make for good reading.
For what we paid/what we lost in Nisbet, a few assists isn’t nearly enough IMO.

[Posh Swanny]

A £700k striker who doesn’t score goals.
That’s about as much as I feel I need to know.
Compare his goalscoring record to Van Veen, Miovski, Shankland etc -
doesn’t make for good reading.
For what we paid/what we lost in Nisbet, a few assists isn’t nearly enough IMO.

😂😂😂

[Keepthefaith]

A £700k striker who doesn’t score goals.
That’s about as much as I feel I need to know.
Compare his goalscoring record to Van Veen, Miovski, Shankland etc -
doesn’t make for good reading.
For what we paid/what we lost in Nisbet, a few assists isn’t nearly enough IMO.

ah another negative post from you, how surprising! you're never happy mate, never sen you post anything remotely positive. you really don't have a footballing brain if you can't see the value he brings to the team. if you like the others so much maybe just go watch a team that punts it up the park and the strikers fall over for pens to tot up their goal tally...

he's a class above Nisbet, pretty sure if we looked in the archives there'll be one where you tell us how **** nisbet was too...

how about recognising something positive about Hibs for once?

[hibees 7062]

:hyper bring back the cumdog!

yes 👍

[SaulGoodman]

A £700k striker who doesn’t score goals.
That’s about as much as I feel I need to know.

That says more about you than him tbh

[CapitalGreen]

A £700k striker who doesn’t score goals.
That’s about as much as I feel I need to know.
Compare his goalscoring record to Van Veen, Miovski, Shankland etc -
doesn’t make for good reading.
For what we paid/what we lost in Nisbet, a few assists isn’t nearly enough IMO.

Vente’s record compares very favourably with how those players performed when first signing. He has played circa 1,100 minutes for Hibs and has scored 5 open play goals plus 2 assists.

- In Miovski’s first 1,100 minutes for Aberdeen he scored 5 open play goals plus 1 assist.
- In van Veen’s first 1,100 minutes for Well he scored 4 open play goals plus 3 assists.
- In Shankland’s first 1,100 minutes for Hesrts he scored 3 open play goals plus 2 assists.

[Stevie Reid]

I thought he was poor today.

It’s clear that he’s a good player but he didn’t do the basics well today. Touch was off when the ball came in to him first half. A lot getting put down to service but I think we need to see a bit more from him. More of a general point as he was decent during the week and obviously toiling today.

Don’t agree that he was poor at all, though was below his usual level. His touch eluded him a couple of times for sure, but that didn’t define his performance. He’s a really clever player who rarely wastes a ball when he drops deep, and shows some lovely touches to bring others into play (though I appreciate that you’ve acknowledged how good a player he is).

Most importantly, he hits the target with his chances, and looks as good a finisher as anyone I’ve seen at ER. The trouble we have is that we’re not playing in a way that allows him to get on the end of things at the moment. That has to change.

However, he is still the focal point of our attack and we were pretty much anonymous as an attacking force after he went off today.

[J-C]

A £700k striker who doesn’t score goals.
That’s about as much as I feel I need to know.
Compare his goalscoring record to Van Veen, Miovski, Shankland etc -
doesn’t make for good reading.
For what we paid/what we lost in Nisbet, a few assists isn’t nearly enough IMO.

Another cracking insightful post by you, well done. :rolleyes:

[LewysGot2]

Suggestions he was ill yesterday. Might explain the relatively early substitution...

[Iain G]

Suggestions he was ill yesterday. Might explain the relatively early substitution...

Not a suggestion, was fact as NM mentioned it in his post match interview

[Crunchie]

A cracking player who will no doubt go on to a bigger move within a couple of years.

[B.H.F.C]

Don’t agree that he was poor at all, though was below his usual level. His touch eluded him a couple of times for sure, but that didn’t define his performance. He’s a really clever player who rarely wastes a ball when he drops deep, and shows some lovely touches to bring others into play (though I appreciate that you’ve acknowledged how good a player he is).

Most importantly, he hits the target with his chances, and looks as good a finisher as anyone I’ve seen at ER. The trouble we have is that we’re not playing in a way that allows him to get on the end of things at the moment. That has to change.

However, he is still the focal point of our attack and we were pretty much anonymous as an attacking force after he went off today.

I’m really no looking to slate him here because, as I say, I think it’s pretty clear he’s a good player. But I’m reading a lot of stuff just now that his lack of contribution at present is down to how we are playing and that’s where I disagree, at least in part. I remember after he’d scored against St Johnstone and there was the big thing about him having scored with all 5 shots he’d had for us. There were people, at that point, being shot down for asking how he wasn’t shooting more which, IMO, was and is a valid point. As I say a lot is being put down to how we play, but pre Monty and with Monty he’s never been hugely involved in the final third. I think it’s as least as much down to the player as it is any system and we do need a bit more from him. He really needs a goal.

[ancient hibee]

I’m really no looking to slate him here because, as I say, I think it’s pretty clear he’s a good player. But I’m reading a lot of stuff just now that his lack of contribution at present is down to how we are playing and that’s where I disagree, at least in part. I remember after he’d scored against St Johnstone and there was the big thing about him having scored with all 5 shots he’d had for us. There were people, at that point, being shot down for asking how he wasn’t shooting more which, IMO, was and is a valid point. As I say a lot is being put down to how we play, but pre Monty and with Monty he’s never been hugely involved in the final third. I think it’s as least as much down to the player as it is any system and we do need a bit more from him. He really needs a goal.

How can you say he’s not much involved in the final third when he set up both goals against StMirren.

[B.H.F.C]

How can you say he’s not much involved in the final third when he set up both goals against StMirren.

That’s one game. In general, I don’t think he’s been involved enough at the top end of the park, whatever the reason. I don’t think there’s anything controversial about that. St Mirren he had an impact up there, plenty games lately he hasn’t.

[HendoDelivered]

A £700k striker who doesn’t score goals.
That’s about as much as I feel I need to know.
Compare his goalscoring record to Van Veen, Miovski, Shankland etc -
doesn’t make for good reading.
For what we paid/what we lost in Nisbet, a few assists isn’t nearly enough IMO.
🤡🤡🤡

[JohnM1875]

A £700k striker who doesn’t score goals.
That’s about as much as I feel I need to know.
Compare his goalscoring record to Van Veen, Miovski, Shankland etc -
doesn’t make for good reading.
For what we paid/what we lost in Nisbet, a few assists isn’t nearly enough IMO.

😂 absolute shocker of a post.