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Stuart93
08-11-2023, 09:37 PM
We lack one. A proper one.

Someone who organises the rest of the team, tells people what to do and where to go on the pitch.

Makes sure everyone’s doing their job. We haven’t had a proper one in a while.

flash
08-11-2023, 09:39 PM
We lack one. A proper one.

Someone who organises the rest of the team, tells people what to do and where to do on the pitch.

Makes sure everyone’s doing their job. We haven’t had a proper one in a while.

I said that on another thread.

How many teams have 2 raw central defenders playing at the same time?

Hibernian Verse
08-11-2023, 09:41 PM
We lack one. A proper one.

Someone who organises the rest of the team, tells people what to do and where to do on the pitch.

Makes sure everyone’s doing their job. We haven’t had a proper one in a while.

Have you played football at any level? These guys don’t need told where to be, that’s why they’re playing for Hibs not the local amateur side.

Captains don’t stop individual errors.

Unseen work
08-11-2023, 09:45 PM
Newell is a proper captain.

Just because he doesn’t run about and boot folk aimlessly like Shinnie doesn’t mean he’s not.

Stuart93
08-11-2023, 09:47 PM
Have you played football at any level? These guys don’t need told where to be, that’s why they’re playing for Hibs not the local amateur side.

Captains don’t stop individual errors.

“These guys don’t need told where to be”

Are you 100% on that? Cause plenty times this season I’ve us completely posted missing.

Nicho87
08-11-2023, 09:48 PM
Newell is a proper captain.

Just because he doesn’t run about and boot folk aimlessly like Shinnie doesn’t mean he’s not.

Ironically if we had a total dick like Shinnie I think we’d be at least 4 points better off and in a cup final.

Stuart93
08-11-2023, 09:48 PM
Newell is a proper captain.

Just because he doesn’t run about and boot folk aimlessly like Shinnie doesn’t mean he’s not.

He’s a good midfielder but I’m not convinced he’s a proper captain.

Shrekko
08-11-2023, 09:51 PM
He’s a good midfielder but I’m not convinced he’s a proper captain.

He absolutely is- can’t understand why people think not but he’s always had people doubting him for one reason or another.

BoomtownHibees
08-11-2023, 09:52 PM
He’s a good midfielder but I’m not convinced he’s a proper captain.

What should he have done better tonight as captain?

WeeRussell
08-11-2023, 09:53 PM
Ironically if we had a total dick like Shinnie I think we’d be at least 4 points better off and in a cup final.

Incidentally while I’d argue that the ‘proper captain’ thing maybe isn’t as important in football today. Shinnie is the exact person that came to mind when I was thinking what we haven’t had in a while… an experienced midfielder that opposition fans think is a dick.

Whether we need one of those is another matter. I like Newell and really like Levitt.. I take the OP’s point but personally not overly fussed about the proper captain thing.

I definitely don’t think it was the reason for not winning tonight.

Jones28
08-11-2023, 09:53 PM
He’s been given MOTM on BBC.

Stuart93
08-11-2023, 09:57 PM
What should he have done better tonight as captain?

I don’t necessarily mean it purely on tonight, just in general.

Imo we haven’t replaced gray as captain since he stopped playing

It’s difficult to put my finger on exactly what I mean but, I may be alone here, I know what I mean 😁

BoomtownHibees
08-11-2023, 10:01 PM
I don’t necessarily mean it purely on tonight, just in general.

Imo we haven’t replaced gray as captain since he stopped playing

It’s difficult to put my finger on exactly what I mean but, I may be alone here, I know what I mean 😁

I agree with you to an extent, I was saying the same on Saturday that we needed somebody to take control and get a hold of the players.

Don’t think there’s much he could have done tonight though

hibsmad
08-11-2023, 10:02 PM
Newell is a proper captain. We’d be flying if our team all had his attitude and determination.

jeffers
08-11-2023, 10:03 PM
I don’t necessarily mean it purely on tonight, just in general.

Imo we haven’t replaced gray as captain since he stopped playing

It’s difficult to put my finger on exactly what I mean but, I may be alone here, I know what I mean 😁

I agree. I can’t really put it into words either, but whether it’s a captain, a leader or a Scott Brown type I don’t think we have one. That’s not Joe Newell (who I thought was good tonight.)

The Harp Awakes
08-11-2023, 10:05 PM
I think Newall has been brilliant for Hibs this season. Leading by example.

WeeRussell
08-11-2023, 10:10 PM
I think Newall has been brilliant for Hibs this season. Leading by example.

Probably player of the year, so far.

TrinityHFC
08-11-2023, 10:17 PM
Quality player. We’ve had Jeggo in there with him generally and he is a communicator and organiser.

AL-Qaholik
09-11-2023, 06:42 AM
I think Newell is a very good choice for captain.
I also think he’s improved since wearing the armband.
The problem is the dross he’s playing with.
In our whole squad, only the likes of ALF and (maybe) Boyle have anything like his footballing intelligence.
If we had a few more on Newell’s level, we’d be more than ok.

easty
09-11-2023, 06:59 AM
These threads come up all the time.

“We need a David Gray/Darren McGregor to get us organised”, and it completely ignores the fact that we had those players playing together and still had plenty gutless performances.

We need better players, not a captain.

Shrekko
09-11-2023, 01:08 PM
These threads come up all the time.

“We need a David Gray/Darren McGregor to get us organised”, and it completely ignores the fact that we had those players playing together and still had plenty gutless performances.

We need better players, not a captain.

Perfectly put.

I still read folk saying we need another 'leader' like Yogi.

How did Hibs do in Yogi's first 2 years?

JimBHibees
09-11-2023, 02:45 PM
Perfectly put.

I still read folk saying we need another 'leader' like Yogi.

How did Hibs do in Yogi's first 2 years?

Relegated were we not

lyonhibs
09-11-2023, 07:33 PM
Perfectly put.

I still read folk saying we need another 'leader' like Yogi.

How did Hibs do in Yogi's first 2 years?

Absolutely.

Just get in some brute with a permanent 5 o'clock shadow that kicks anything they moves and berates his team mates (errrrr "is a vocal leader" rather)

That'll sort it.

hhibs
09-11-2023, 08:08 PM
Ironically if we had a total dick like Shinnie I think we’d be at least 4 points better off and in a cup final.


Yep.

LaMotta
09-11-2023, 08:32 PM
We lack one. A proper one.

Someone who organises the rest of the team, tells people what to do and where to go on the pitch.

Makes sure everyone’s doing their job. We haven’t had a proper one in a while.


I said that on another thread.

How many teams have 2 raw central defenders playing at the same time?

Totally agree.

The team lacks an organiser. The shambles against 10 men in the Semi proved that IMO. Our inability to see out games points to this. We also don't get in the refs ear enough.

LaMotta
09-11-2023, 08:34 PM
Have you played football at any level? These guys don’t need told where to be, that’s why they’re playing for Hibs not the local amateur side.

Captains don’t stop individual errors.

Couldn't be further from the truth based on the last few performances.

Irish_Steve
09-11-2023, 08:38 PM
Where's Roy Kent when you need him

Heedersnvolleys
09-11-2023, 10:13 PM
I think Newall has been brilliant for Hibs this season. Leading by example.

I am not sure we have the players that follow that type of leader. Whether Newell is the right player even to do that is debatable. Maybe they do need a bawler out there.

Mcbizz1998
10-11-2023, 09:03 PM
Happy with Newell as captain. Vocal, well liked by the players and one of the first names on the team sheet.

We be my choice based on who we have.

Mcbizz1998
10-11-2023, 09:39 PM
Happy with Newell as captain. Vocal, well liked by the players and one of the first names on the team sheet.

We be my choice based on who we have.

Brightside
10-11-2023, 09:56 PM
The captain chat is up there with the formation chat. It’s far too basic and simplistic. One person with an arm band make almost no difference.

WeeRussell
10-11-2023, 10:52 PM
The captain chat is up there with the formation chat. It’s far too basic and simplistic.

..And the LCH chat 😁

Brightside
10-11-2023, 10:55 PM
..And the LCH chat 😁

Now that’s a totally different and logical chat 😂