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Springbank
02-11-2023, 04:52 PM
I'm a,season ticket holder, a dad (of a youth season ticket holder), and I'm a normal European person in 21st century Scotland.
Following on from Dundee FC's statement last night, calling out the seemingly never-ending dark sectarianism and evil within the Rangers support, I would support Hibs in taking the following action, but my question is - would you?
In 3 points;
1. I appreciate we sell 3-4000 tickets over £30 each when Rangers visit ER.
2.i suspect a majority (an overwhelming majority?) of our season ticket holders cannot stand the bile, the evil, the hatred and the sheer disgusting & overt British Nationalism that emanates from the away end when Rangers visit
So
3. I would support Hibs saying to season ticket holders 'you can pay an optional £10 or £20 as a "keep Leith clean" top up to your season ticket price (a one off, annual payment, you choose to pay it or not).
If you pay this, every penny pf that top up will be used to remove seats from the Rangers support when they visit".
If everyone pays £20 we eradicate the problem.
If some pay & some don't (the realistic outcome) it allows Hibs to slash the allocation that the despicable people from Rangers will receive, without impacting our club financially.
So, a "keep Leith clean" top up payment, to reduce Rangers allocation?
I'm in.
But are you?
JohnM1875
02-11-2023, 04:55 PM
I'm pretty sure that's not possible. And if it was they'd easily do the same to us for Ibrox.
Would love us to cut their allocation though. Some things are more important than money.
EastStandGates
02-11-2023, 05:03 PM
Nah. Opens up a whole new can of worms. They could ban Hibs fans for the Lizzies in a box stuff. Plus I enjoy nothing more than a GIRFUY towards a South stand full of current buns.
It's just a pity it doesn't happen very often.
Bridge hibs
02-11-2023, 05:08 PM
I would add celtc to that too, they are not much better
Cat Stanton
02-11-2023, 05:08 PM
I'm a,season ticket holder, a dad (of a youth season ticket holder), and I'm a normal European person in 21st century Scotland.
Following on from Dundee FC's statement last night, calling out the seemingly never-ending dark sectarianism and evil within the Rangers support, I would support Hibs in taking the following action, but my question is - would you?
In 3 points;
1. I appreciate we sell 3-4000 tickets over £30 each when Rangers visit ER.
2.i suspect a majority (an overwhelming majority?) of our season ticket holders cannot stand the bile, the evil, the hatred and the sheer disgusting & overt British Nationalism that emanates from the away end when Rangers visit
So
3. I would support Hibs saying to season ticket holders 'you can pay an optional £10 or £20 as a "keep Leith clean" top up to your season ticket price (a one off, annual payment, you choose to pay it or not).
If you pay this, every penny pf that top up will be used to remove seats from the Rangers support when they visit".
If everyone pays £20 we eradicate the problem.
If some pay & some don't (the realistic outcome) it allows Hibs to slash the allocation that the despicable people from Rangers will receive, without impacting our club financially.
So, a "keep Leith clean" top up payment, to reduce Rangers allocation?
I'm in.
But are you?
All for it.
But given the club says nothing about their actions and songs - even says nothing when thousands boo the picture of a man who has recently died, and whose family are present, and who was the club's owner - I wouldn't hold your breath.
But I'd support anything to keep them away. And the Celtc away support who are frankly just as bad.
Garymcl
02-11-2023, 05:29 PM
Ban them and you’ll get a much bigger home support if that was the case I know personally hibbys that don’t go (non st holders ) simply can put up with there disgusting songs etc also young kids / more woman would be encouraged and as for banning our support at iPox first of all we get a few tickets now and personally don’t understand why anybody would want to visit that place I stopped going many years ago definitely ban them
Vini1875
02-11-2023, 05:35 PM
We will do it with more success and more STs sold, as hearts have done.
Winston Ingram
02-11-2023, 05:49 PM
I would add celtc to that too, they are not much better
Just as bad. They’re 2 cheeks of the same arse.
Mcbizz1998
02-11-2023, 05:52 PM
Meh. Get a good team on the pitch, start filling the stadium and reducing their allocation takes care of itself. I have bigger things to worry about than some half witted weedgies singing stupid songs, whether that’s Rangers or Celtic (who I notice you failed to mention?)
EDIT: oh and btw, if Hibs had the bottle to add the £20 payment to keep them out when I renewed my season ticket then yes I would 100% pay. Would maybe need to be £40 to cover Celtic too, I’d pay that as well. What about Hearts? Make it £60!!!
Since90+2
02-11-2023, 06:05 PM
Just as bad. They’re 2 cheeks of the same arse.
They really aren't just as bad. I'm baffled anyone who's ever attended a game with both sets fans at ER or attended Ibrox or Celtic Park can have that view
PHeffernan
02-11-2023, 06:19 PM
They really aren't just as bad. I'm baffled anyone who's ever attended a game with both sets fans at ER or attended Ibrox or Celtic Park can have that view
I attend Ibrox and Celtic Park. Have never had any issues or concerns going to, leaving or within either ground. Only difference is that at Ibrox you can see the whole pitch.
As for them visiting Easter Road, the away supports of both are rammed with morons with an inability to pee in toilets.
He's here!
02-11-2023, 06:20 PM
I'm a,season ticket holder, a dad (of a youth season ticket holder), and I'm a normal European person in 21st century Scotland.
Following on from Dundee FC's statement last night, calling out the seemingly never-ending dark sectarianism and evil within the Rangers support, I would support Hibs in taking the following action, but my question is - would you?
In 3 points;
1. I appreciate we sell 3-4000 tickets over £30 each when Rangers visit ER.
2.i suspect a majority (an overwhelming majority?) of our season ticket holders cannot stand the bile, the evil, the hatred and the sheer disgusting & overt British Nationalism that emanates from the away end when Rangers visit
So
3. I would support Hibs saying to season ticket holders 'you can pay an optional £10 or £20 as a "keep Leith clean" top up to your season ticket price (a one off, annual payment, you choose to pay it or not).
If you pay this, every penny pf that top up will be used to remove seats from the Rangers support when they visit".
If everyone pays £20 we eradicate the problem.
If some pay & some don't (the realistic outcome) it allows Hibs to slash the allocation that the despicable people from Rangers will receive, without impacting our club financially.
So, a "keep Leith clean" top up payment, to reduce Rangers allocation?
I'm in.
But are you?
Most of that applies to the Celtic support too.
worcesterhibby
02-11-2023, 06:20 PM
Football isn’t football without away fans. Police need to take action, not Hibs. We pay them enough to police the matches.
Pagan Hibernia
02-11-2023, 06:28 PM
I'm a,season ticket holder, a dad (of a youth season ticket holder), and I'm a normal European person in 21st century Scotland.
Following on from Dundee FC's statement last night, calling out the seemingly never-ending dark sectarianism and evil within the Rangers support, I would support Hibs in taking the following action, but my question is - would you?
In 3 points;
1. I appreciate we sell 3-4000 tickets over £30 each when Rangers visit ER.
2.i suspect a majority (an overwhelming majority?) of our season ticket holders cannot stand the bile, the evil, the hatred and the sheer disgusting & overt British Nationalism that emanates from the away end when Rangers visit
So
3. I would support Hibs saying to season ticket holders 'you can pay an optional £10 or £20 as a "keep Leith clean" top up to your season ticket price (a one off, annual payment, you choose to pay it or not).
If you pay this, every penny pf that top up will be used to remove seats from the Rangers support when they visit".
If everyone pays £20 we eradicate the problem.
If some pay & some don't (the realistic outcome) it allows Hibs to slash the allocation that the despicable people from Rangers will receive, without impacting our club financially.
So, a "keep Leith clean" top up payment, to reduce Rangers allocation?
I'm in.
But are you?
Do you go to support hibs at ibrox?
Absolutely nothing beats humping them in their own poisonous stadium... and we've done it a few times. Watching their stunned faces turning to anger... when it happens it's fantastic.
I can totally understand the feeling that they shouldn't be allowed to pollute Easter Road with their nonsense. Most of the time I feel like that too. Just as long as people know they'll never get to experience that at ibrox again if we do kick them out of our place
PHeffernan
02-11-2023, 06:33 PM
Football isn’t football without away fans. Police need to take action, not Hibs. We pay them enough to police the matches.
Hibs as far as I can see have no issues with Celgers supporters otherwise they would have at least made a statement at some point outlining their concerns. I have no recollection of ever seeing such a statement in the last 30 years.
As such it is up to more Hibs fans to attend games if we are to reduce the Celgers allocation. That way Hibs would have to do what Hearts have done i.e. look after the demand of their own supporters first. The solution is in Hibs fans hands.
P.S. Hibs only pay for the Police within the stadium. You would need hundreds of them inside to effectively deal with the thousands singing. The cost would be monstrous and ongoing.
LaMotta
02-11-2023, 08:29 PM
They really aren't just as bad. I'm baffled anyone who's ever attended a game with both sets fans at ER or attended Ibrox or Celtic Park can have that view
Agree with this.
lyonhibs
02-11-2023, 08:51 PM
Absolute non starter. Imagine Hibs actually launching an optional payment scheme called "Keep Leith Clean" 😂😂
Live in the real world. Sell enough ST and there won't be a decision to make
Winston Ingram
02-11-2023, 09:18 PM
They really aren't just as bad. I'm baffled anyone who's ever attended a game with both sets fans at ER or attended Ibrox or Celtic Park can have that view
I’m equally baffled by you view🤷🏻*♂️
CentreLine
02-11-2023, 09:50 PM
It seems that a major part of the problem is overcrowding in the away end. We would have expected that to be impossible but the Taylor report and the kind of events that led to it seem to have been forgotten.
Rather than ban away support, I would rather see the measures, that so upset the Celtic fans, improved upon and permanently put in place. Even just for safety it makes sense to stop the ticketless entrants overcrowding and causing dangerous conditions. It makes it realistic to ensure that stairways and exits (didn’t like to say vomitoria🙄) kept clear. It would significantly reduce the numbers spouting their bile, make those that do more easily identifiable and reduce the chances of another football disaster.
Itsnoteasy
02-11-2023, 10:07 PM
They really aren't just as bad. I'm baffled anyone who's ever attended a game with both sets fans at ER or attended Ibrox or Celtic Park can have that view
That's why they've just banned the green brigade 🤔
Slim Shady
02-11-2023, 10:30 PM
Not for removing any of Hearts allocation. As they would remove some of ours.
Love going to Derby games. Home and away. First fixture I look for and would be gutted if this atmosphere of a full house of home and away fans was taken away.
Meh. Get a good team on the pitch, start filling the stadium and reducing their allocation takes care of itself. I have bigger things to worry about than some half witted weedgies singing stupid songs, whether that’s Rangers or Celtic (who I notice you failed to mention?)
EDIT: oh and btw, if Hibs had the bottle to add the £20 payment to keep them out when I renewed my season ticket then yes I would 100% pay. Would maybe need to be £40 to cover Celtic too, I’d pay that as well. What about Hearts? Make it £60!!!
WeeRussell
03-11-2023, 12:37 AM
Initial reaction is why should we pay for them being *****?
PHeffernan
03-11-2023, 12:49 AM
The OP appears to have bailed after lighting the fuse
.Sean.
03-11-2023, 07:31 AM
They really aren't just as bad. I'm baffled anyone who's ever attended a game with both sets fans at ER or attended Ibrox or Celtic Park can have that view
Ask Hearts, or actually any club other than us, how nice those loveable Celtic rogues are to them. They’re a shower of patronising ***** when it comes to us and that’s all there is to it. Wish our board would finally grow a set and seriously cut the allocations of the both of them - some things are more important than money and if the likes of Kilmarnock and St Mirren can do it and continue to do so I think we’ll maybe just about survive.
Since90+2
03-11-2023, 07:51 AM
Ask Hearts, or actually any club other than us, how nice those loveable Celtic rogues are to them. They’re a shower of patronising ***** when it comes to us and that’s all there is to it. Wish our board would finally grow a set and seriously cut the allocations of the both of them - some things are more important than money and if the likes of Kilmarnock and St Mirren can do it and continue to do so I think we’ll maybe just about survive.
Ask Hearts? Nah. Their fans talk more ***** than anybody.
Itsnoteasy
03-11-2023, 08:15 AM
The OP appears to have bailed after lighting the fuse
He's lost the spring in his step
lucky
03-11-2023, 08:17 AM
I'm a season ticket holder, a dad (of a youth season ticket holder), and I am a normal European person in 21st-century Scotland.
Following on from Dundee FC's statement last night, calling out the seemingly never-ending dark sectarianism and evil within the Rangers support, I would support Hibs in taking the following action, but my question is - would you?
In 3 points;
1. I appreciate we sell 3-4000 tickets for over £30 each when Rangers visit ER.
2. i suspect a majority (an overwhelming majority?) of our season ticket holders cannot stand the bile, the evil, the hatred and the sheer disgusting & overt British Nationalism that emanates from the away end when Rangers visit
So
3. I would support Hibs saying to season ticket holders 'you can pay an optional £10 or £20 as a "keep Leith clean" top up to your season ticket price (a one off, annual payment, you choose to pay it or not).
If you pay this, every penny pf that top up will be used to remove seats from the Rangers support when they visit".
If everyone pays £20 we eradicate the problem.
If some pay & some don't (the realistic outcome) it allows Hibs to slash the allocation that the despicable people from Rangers will receive, without impacting our club financially.
So, a "keep Leith clean" top up payment, to reduce Rangers allocation?
I'm in.
But are you?
Disagree completely. Banning fans is not the answer. Education is. People need to learn what is acceptable in a football stadium and what's not. You suggest banning Rangers, someone else added Celtc then Hearts. At this rate anyone who is offended by another club's fans get banned. Sport is about rivalry but most football clubs have fans that sing distasteful songs about other clubs, players supporters and cities. There is no place for bigotry in a modern society but your comment has an element of it in your statement about British Nationalism.
Hibrandenburg
03-11-2023, 09:11 AM
Disagree completely. Banning fans is not the answer. Education is. People need to learn what is acceptable in a football stadium and what's not. You suggest banning Rangers, someone else added Celtc then Hearts. At this rate anyone who is offended by another club's fans get banned. Sport is about rivalry but most football clubs have fans that sing distasteful songs about other clubs, players supporters and cities. There is no place for bigotry in a modern society but your comment has an element of it in your statement about British Nationalism.
The problem with this is that when it comes to football, you're team is basically decided for you by your family, as is the education surrounding what that involves. As Hibs fans we're likely to have been given a more Liberal "education" than your average Billy Blue Nose.
Disagree completely. Banning fans is not the answer. Education is. People need to learn what is acceptable in a football stadium and what's not. You suggest banning Rangers, someone else added Celtc then Hearts. At this rate anyone who is offended by another club's fans get banned. Sport is about rivalry but most football clubs have fans that sing distasteful songs about other clubs, players supporters and cities. There is no place for bigotry in a modern society but your comment has an element of it in your statement about British Nationalism.Rangers fans know what is acceptable in a football ground, which is why the behave the way they do.
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heretoday
03-11-2023, 09:41 AM
These people just love causing offence and creating mayhem. Their Celtic counterparts are the same and other clubs have a fair proportion of nutters too, including Hibs.
Every generation throws up a load of hooligans. The difference now is they're fuelled by social media.
DinkyTwo
03-11-2023, 09:41 AM
Disagree completely. Banning fans is not the answer. Education is. People need to learn what is acceptable in a football stadium and what's not. You suggest banning Rangers, someone else added Celtc then Hearts. At this rate anyone who is offended by another club's fans get banned. Sport is about rivalry but most football clubs have fans that sing distasteful songs about other clubs, players supporters and cities. There is no place for bigotry in a modern society but your comment has an element of it in your statement about British Nationalism.
Just picking up on your last point;
A dislike of British Nationalism is different from hating British people, though. So I don't think it's fair to correlate that with bigotry.
Imperialism is so far away from what I consider to be morally acceptable that I just can't stomach anything or anyone that celebrates it - and by extension, British Nationalism and Rangers FC.
If it was all about celebrating Britishness and the cultural diversity that the isles have then I might be more inclined to get onboard, but often, it feels like a vehicle for emphasising that England still owns pretty much all of the other home nations and everyone else should just get it right up them.
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DinkyTwo
03-11-2023, 09:49 AM
As for the original question, I would support paying a little extra to lock out Rangers fans from Easter Road, at least until the club can demonstrate that they are taking actions to improve the behaviour of their own fans - e.g. publicly calling out and banning those entering a ground without a ticket, singing hateful songs, interrupting minutes silences...
In any other place, you'd be banned from coming back if the group you were with behaved like that.
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bordergreen
03-11-2023, 10:14 AM
I’m equally baffled by you view🤷🏻*♂️
Whilst Rangers Fans are generally much more bigoted, vocal and vile. You can’t take away the fact that one side thinks they are Irish Freedom Fighters, and the other side think they are Ulster Loyalists.
As you said, two cheeks….
No time for either of them. I can’t stand the, you are our wee cousins attitude from Celtic fans. Let them move to Ireland if they want to espouse all that nonsense. They will find though, that a lot of football fans in Northern Ireland support Man U or Liverpool, because they can’t be bothered with all the Celtic/Rangers nonsense either.
BobbyT1875
03-11-2023, 10:24 AM
The sooner we , hertz and Aberdeen show leadership and start a new league without the two weedgie teams. And we never have to play them again. A competitive league of 16 teams , without the bile
A Hi-Bee
03-11-2023, 11:15 AM
As for the original question, I would support paying a little extra to lock out Rangers fans from Easter Road, at least until the club can demonstrate that they are taking actions to improve the behaviour of their own fans - e.g. publicly calling out and banning those entering a ground without a ticket, singing hateful songs, interrupting minutes silences...
In any other place, you'd be banned from coming back if the group you were with behaved like that.
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:top marks although we have to be careful in this day and age we are not seen to discriminate.
Perhaps they could watch from a cage set up in George Square, charge than a wee bit more to pay for the cage etc.
The other lot are just as bad.
NAE NOOKIE
03-11-2023, 11:25 AM
Before going down the route the OP suggests a good start would at least be for Hibs to call out sectarianism like Dundee have.
The other thing is overcrowding of the away ends, not just at Easter Road. That has the potential to cause a major incident one of these days and if it continues perhaps the other clubs should start publicly asking the Ugly sisters what they intend to do about it. Why should the criminal behaviour of their fans be everybody else's problem?
The ultimate solution of course is for Hibs to make the team so attractive to follow that demand from our fans enables us to drastically cut their allocation ... if only some billionaire would invest in us :greengrin
DinkyTwo
03-11-2023, 11:25 AM
:top marks although we have to be careful in this day and age we are not seen to discriminate.
Perhaps they could watch from a cage set up in George Square, charge than a wee bit more to pay for the cage etc.
The other lot are just as bad.I get the discrimination point. Despite my own thoughts (and the OP, it would seem) it would be wrong for Hibs to ban fans just because their club has ties to British Nationalism or the monarchy...etc. Banned due to misbehaviour though, fair enough!
Living through in the west, I'd rather that they weren't all gathered together in George Square (again) :greengrin
Keep them in govan and provide a beam-back [emoji23]
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cabbageandribs1875
03-11-2023, 11:31 AM
"keep Leith clean"
i like :thumbsup:
Greenbeard
03-11-2023, 12:09 PM
Football isn’t football without away fans. Police need to take action, not Hibs. We pay them enough to police the matches.
This. Looking at the Dundee footage, there were quite a few individuals near the front who could very easily be singled out for committing the criminal offence of possessing a flare, yet no action was taken never mind arrests, presumably because the stewards and polis didn't want to inflame the situation and create a full blown sticky bun riot.
Makes a mockery of the new legislation. Polis and stewards should be formally asked the question (not sure by whom) why they didn't take any action at the time and if no satisfactory answer they should be cautioned accordingly for failing to uphold the law. For the polis to say after the match that they are working with the clubs to identify those responsible is just p*sh.
MWHIBBIES
03-11-2023, 12:28 PM
:faf:
Hibs will do nothing. Our club purposely ignores this. See Gary Mackay. See Rangers fans when Lennon was here. We don't even protect our own employees never mind our fans.
Chorley Hibee
03-11-2023, 12:35 PM
Don't forget, a million pound of public money and a year long investigation when Hibs fans invaded a pitch.
All in order to appease Sevco.
As for our cowardly board, as MWHIBBEES said, they will say and do nothing.
They will all be deaf, dumb and blind when Sevco next visit.
linlithgowhibbie
03-11-2023, 01:27 PM
This. Looking at the Dundee footage, there were quite a few individuals near the front who could very easily be singled out for committing the criminal offence of possessing a flare, yet no action was taken never mind arrests, presumably because the stewards and polis didn't want to inflame the situation and create a full blown sticky bun riot.
Makes a mockery of the new legislation. Polis and stewards should be formally asked the question (not sure by whom) why they didn't take any action at the time and if no satisfactory answer they should be cautioned accordingly for failing to uphold the law. For the polis to say after the match that they are working with the clubs to identify those responsible is just p*sh.
Whilst I agree about wading in and grabbing the flare users, remember these things burn at an amazingly high temperature. Imagine trying to arrest someone waving it around at your face, not even the money the polis are paid is worth it to have your face burnt off!
Greenbeard
03-11-2023, 03:18 PM
Whilst I agree about wading in and grabbing the flare users, remember these things burn at an amazingly high temperature. Imagine trying to arrest someone waving it around at your face, not even the money the polis are paid is worth it to have your face burnt off!
Fair do's.
Clock, photo, wait (until the flare is out), arrest, charge, ban, fine. No excuse.
worcesterhibby
03-11-2023, 04:37 PM
Fair do's.
Clock, photo, wait (until the flare is out), arrest, charge, ban, fine. No excuse.
The problem is thst half of the flare wavers are probably off duty coppers.
The Harp Awakes
03-11-2023, 05:13 PM
Whilst Rangers Fans are generally much more bigoted, vocal and vile. You can’t take away the fact that one side thinks they are Irish Freedom Fighters, and the other side think they are Ulster Loyalists.
As you said, two cheeks….
No time for either of them. I can’t stand the, you are our wee cousins attitude from Celtic fans. Let them move to Ireland if they want to espouse all that nonsense. They will find though, that a lot of football fans in Northern Ireland support Man U or Liverpool, because they can’t be bothered with all the Celtic/Rangers nonsense either.
Replace 'bigoted' with 'racist' in your first sentence, which in my view are the same thing, and that makes it clearer why Rangers fans are on a different level to any other Scottish club's supporters. In every other country in the world, outside Scotland and Northern Ireland, Rangers would have been closed down a long time ago due to racism.
Well done Dundee for speaking out.
PHeffernan
03-11-2023, 06:08 PM
This. Looking at the Dundee footage, there were quite a few individuals near the front who could very easily be singled out for committing the criminal offence of possessing a flare, yet no action was taken never mind arrests, presumably because the stewards and polis didn't want to inflame the situation and create a full blown sticky bun riot.
Makes a mockery of the new legislation. Polis and stewards should be formally asked the question (not sure by whom) why they didn't take any action at the time and if no satisfactory answer they should be cautioned accordingly for failing to uphold the law. For the polis to say after the match that they are working with the clubs to identify those responsible is just p*sh.
Stewards are no more than health and safety box ticking yellow jacket carriers paid minimum wage so forget that one.
As for the Police, not good practice to use all their resourses at the game to arrest 25 guys just after the game has started and then an emergency happens at the game and all their resourses are miles away processing prisoners. An investigation will take place at a later date utilising CCTV and other footage to identify culprits.
Greenbeard
03-11-2023, 07:32 PM
Stewards are no more than health and safety box ticking yellow jacket carriers paid minimum wage so forget that one.
As for the Police, not good practice to use all their resourses at the game to arrest 25 guys just after the game has started and then an emergency happens at the game and all their resourses are miles away processing prisoners. An investigation will take place at a later date utilising CCTV and other footage to identify culprits.
25? I said a few were near the front and easily identifiable. Arresting a couple would at least send a message and act as a deterrent. No excuse.
StirlingHibee
03-11-2023, 07:56 PM
Sorry mate but you destroy your own argument as soon as you reference your abhorrence to being British. You come across as prejudiced as the people you are aiming target at. It may be difficult for you to stomach but there are Hibs fans who identify as British as well as Scottish.
The Baldmans Comb
04-11-2023, 05:23 AM
You would have to live in a completely alternative universe if you ever think the Chief Executive or board at Hibs would make a stand against Sevco or in fact anything.
They pick easy targets like racist abuse or ticket prices/allocations and thats only on a good day.
Historically and presently Hibs are a craven cowardly wee club who wouldnt say boo to a goose and utterly know their place. 😓
Examples are Sevco twice in 4 days disrupting the Ron Gordon rememberance, Dempster running a mile from the racist and sectarian abuse of Lennon, umpteen examples of away fans treatment in Glasgow and failure to call out blatant referee cheating such as Craig Thompson or the non award of the penalty in the Falkirk 1st leg play off.😓
A club run by utter sapps.
CentreLine
04-11-2023, 06:44 AM
You would have to live in a completely alternative universe if you ever think the Chief Executive or board at Hibs would make a stand against Sevco or in fact anything.
They pick easy targets like racist abuse or ticket prices/allocations and thats only on a good day.
Historically and presently Hibs are a craven cowardly wee club who wouldnt say boo to a goose and utterly know their place. 😓
Examples are Sevco twice in 4 days disrupting the Ron Gordon rememberance, Dempster running a mile from the racist and sectarian abuse of Lennon, umpteen examples of away fans treatment in Glasgow and failure to call out blatant referee cheating such as Craig Thompson or the non award of the penalty in the Falkirk 1st leg play off.😓
A club run by utter sapps.
Late night last night, was it? 🫣
Definitely a fair point that Hibs don’t shout from the rooftops about stuff and you may be right in a lot of what you say.
Based on nothing but, perhaps misplaced, belief in having decent, professional, people running the club, I suspect Hibs interact frequently on all of the above with the SFA, SPFL and with individual clubs. In fact I seem to remember Leeanne Dempster attending Ibrox amongst the Hibs supporters specifically to learn, first hand, what the supporters’ match day experience was. Ben Kensell definitely has at Ibrox and tynecastle
I just like to think Hibs are a whole lot more dignified and professional about this stuff than kicking off like a teenage kid with an entitlement complex. Sometimes there is more strength in quiet dignity than kicking off.
DH1875
04-11-2023, 08:49 AM
Sorry mate but you destroy your own argument as soon as you reference your abhorrence to being British. You come across as prejudiced as the people you are aiming target at. It may be difficult for you to stomach but there are Hibs fans who identify as British as well as Scottish.
100%. I'm all for the club supporting our heritage but we are an inclusive club where everyone is/should be welcome. That includes Tories, Royalists, Remain voters, protestants, and English/British folk. Heck we might even have a few who are all of them (not me). I like many support Hibs because I don't go for all the political crap. If I did I'd have been better of supporting celtic given that I've lived in Glasgow the last 25 years.
Ship of Hope
04-11-2023, 12:00 PM
Imo away fans are part of the experience, albeit not always a pleasant one when we are losing and being taunted. However I would not change it.. other than bring on the billionaire and hopefully the shoe will be on the other foot!
what might be funnier would be to drown out their sectarian pish with hibs songs being played through the speakers in their stand. Just turn up the volume…
Phil MaGlass
04-11-2023, 03:31 PM
Sorry mate but you destroy your own argument as soon as you reference your abhorrence to being British. You come across as prejudiced as the people you are aiming target at. It may be difficult for you to stomach but there are Hibs fans who identify as British as well as Scottish.
Is there?
Since90+2
04-11-2023, 03:38 PM
Is there?
Of course there are. Not the majority obviously but will be some.
lyonhibs
04-11-2023, 04:53 PM
Is there?
Yes. I'd imagine in decreasing numbers these days but yes.
Johnny Clash
04-11-2023, 09:02 PM
Ban them and you’ll get a much bigger home support if that was the case I know personally hibbys that don’t go (non st holders ) simply can put up with there disgusting songs etc also young kids / more woman would be encouraged and as for banning our support at iPox first of all we get a few tickets now and personally don’t understand why anybody would want to visit that place I stopped going many years ago definitely ban them
These Hibbys you mention Gary, do they go to all other home games ? It’s just the Celtic and sevco games they can’t put up with?
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