The Rangers v Hibernian

[HarpOnHibee]

Why are coaching staff not seeing it though, it’s near enough every game now.

Going by the standard of goalkeeping we've been subjected to over the years, they're undoubtedly a contributing factor.

[Hibees1973]

Today is worse than the 1st half at tiny.

Highlighting our deficiencies. All fine having 2 decent wingers & 2 attackers but if we don't have a stronger spine (Marshall, Hanlon & Jeggo) we are going to get found out in games like this.

Needs to change it at half time.

Take off Marshall & Le Fondre. Bring on Wollacott & Levitt and change formation to a 4-5-1.

[Iain G]

Why are coaching staff not seeing it though, it’s near enough every game now.

JoJo is only just back from injury, give them a chance to make that change. Otherwise was inexperienced keepers as the only potential alternative.

[Callum_62]

It’s not a hill I’m prepared to die on and I’m no one to defend the Huns, I’m just saying if a Hibs goal was disallowed for that the tele would be out the window.Looks a clear foul from the first angle?

https://twitter.com/Freddie_23_23/status/1715742532410220661?t=S2jhVQZUPPLgijMrk4Chag&s=19

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[The Modfather]

Not every bit of contact is a foul, but sweeping someone's feet out from under them is

Newell fouls before the second challenge, don’t think we can have any complaints about the second goal from a free kick perspective.

[The Captain....]

No really anyone else to play at CH though is there. Agree with you though. New faces needed in Jan.I don't think we can play the way he wants with these players. Defenders need to be almost flawless, good on the ball and be able to defend when outnumbered as our midfield is regularly overun. Add to that a keeper with as poor a record as I've seen at shot saving and it's no surprise we're losing cheap goals.

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[Nicho87]

Why would you bring on Delferierre when you are trying to get back into the game?

Case Jeggo has clearly not done his job well enough ?

[itslegaltender]

Fuds on the radio spent the whole time talking about rangers. Reminded me why I hadn’t listened to Radio Scotland for the last few years.

[Donegal Hibby]

First goal we were beat for pace on , still trying to work out why miller ended up tracking sima on the left and were was Obita ! . 2nd goal was Newells fault and couldn't have been placed any better in the corner . 4-4-2 at Ibrox hasn't been good imo and unfortunately there's no plan B to change either

[Bristolhibby]

Yes but never given at Hunsville central.

Hunsville or no, there’s a VAR system in place for things like this. What’s the point if they are just going to revert to type?

J

[Callum_62]

Newell fouls before the second challenge, don’t think we can have any complaints about the second goal from a free kick perspective.That doesn't negate the foul on him though

If the refs played advantage it goes back to rangers foul not just letting them foul with impunity

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[1875Sean]

First goal we were beat for pace on , still trying to work out why miller ended up tracking sima on the left and were was Obita ! . 2nd goal was Newells fault and couldn't have been placed any better in the corner . 4-4-2 at Ibrox hasn't been good imo and unfortunately there's no plan B to change either

Not sure the formation has anything to do with it, 2 poor goals to lose but if we were playing 451 could still have lost them, errors not the system caused the goals

[Keith_M]

You can't play open, attacking football in every game and it might be an idea to switch to 4-5-1 against the likes of Celtc and (The) Rangers.

[Hibs90]

This will end up 3 or 4

[Since452]

You can't play open, attacking football in every game and it might be an idea to switch to 4-5-1 against the likes of Celtc and (The) Rangers.

So, so naive. You'd have thought someone would have a quiet word with him. Yet to see a plan B from him. Hopefully learns from this.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Weak as pish

[overdrive]

Boyle injured by the looks of it - actually he’s ok

[The Modfather]

That doesn't negate the foul on him though

If the refs played advantage it goes back to rangers foul not just letting them foul with impunity

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I don’t feel strongly either way, but think it evened itself out. Newell fouls first, not given. Newell is then fouled, not given. Play goes on.

[Hibs90]

Boyle stood on by Lammers who gets a booking to ensure it can't be looked at it.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Dreadful tackle

[A Hi-Bee]

Hunsville or no, there’s a VAR system in place for things like this. What’s the point if they are just going to revert to type?

J

The VAR system is run by huns as well, so how can anyone be surprised.

[Iain G]

So, so naive. You'd have thought someone would have a quiet word with him. Yet to see a plan B from him. Hopefully learns from this.

Seen plenty of Plan B, as you say, as he has tweaked the 442 in games already. It's not as rigid a formation as you seem to want to make out.

[Ralphy C]

Newell fouls before the second challenge, don’t think we can have any complaints about the second goal from a free kick perspective.VAR wont be looking at that though just whether a foul from the attacking side.

[J-C]

Has the rule changed about players leaving the field after treatment, Boyle gets treatment and just carries on.

[1875Sean]

Get Jeggo off asap

[wookie70]

How many times does our first touch take us into traffic. Very poor from Jeggo there and now Marshall with a shocker

[Hibs90]

Get Jeggo off. Constantly giving the ball away.

[weecounty hibby]

Has the rule changed about players leaving the field after treatment, Boyle gets treatment and just carries on.

They don't have to leave the field if injured when its a free kick I think

[overdrive]

Jeggo got out of jail there by some poor Rangers finishing.

Then Marshall giving the ball away as well. Terrible. Get him the hell out of the team.

[Heisenberg]

Give Levitt his chance here, can’t do any harm.

[wookie70]

Has the rule changed about players leaving the field after treatment, Boyle gets treatment and just carries on.
Player was booked so injured player can stay on.

[cabbageandribs1875]

what on earth is marshall doing there fgs man

[Hibs90]

Marshall as well. Horrendous stuff.

[HarpOnHibee]

Almost another howler from Marshall.

[overdrive]

Got off with that too. Lammers off the post

[SHODAN]

Lammers is so bad, I love how bad he is

[JJP]

We are begging Rangers to score a third here.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Any other player having a mare gets hooked.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Why are we giving the ball away so cheaply??

[Mon Dieu4]

Defending is shambolic at times

[The Captain....]

Marshall!!!!

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[cabbageandribs1875]

oh my hitting the post when it looked a tad easier to score, once again shi*e defending

[overdrive]

Marshall, Jeggo, Hanlon having a torrid few minutes here.

[MikeyS]

David Marshall would not have looked out of place at Yogi Shoes' goalkeeping clown school!

[wookie70]

Get Levitt on. If we are playing it about then Jeggo is an accident waiting to happen

[Hibs90]

Marshall needs hooked. Jeggo needs hooked.

Second half performance is actually worse than the first.

[Helensburghhibs]

Hanlon and marshall... Indefensible today

[Allant1981]

Need to change something ASAP here

[J-C]

They don't have to leave the field if injured when its a free kick I think

Ah! got you cheers. :aok:

[bordergreen]

what on earth is marshall doing there fgs man

Some calamitous defending today. Also putting ourselves under pressure with slack passing. Come on Hibs! Get a grip here.

[Real Emerald]

This playing about at the back and constantly passing back to the keeper will put me off going. Absolutely awful stuff and constantly getting us in bother.

[The Modfather]

My word Marshall and Hanlon trying to gift a goal within minutes of each other.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

I just can't believe how bad we are, absolute 💩

[swin82]

Levitt needs to play in this team

[badabing67]

Think he needs to switch to 3-5-2

[cabbageandribs1875]

just a matter of time

[Joe6-2]

This playing about at the back and constantly passing back to the keeper will put me off going. Absolutely awful stuff and constantly getting us in bother.

Would be fine if they were capable of playing it, but they are more culpable!!

[Since452]

Get Levitt on and change formation. The games done if we don't change something

[MWHIBBIES]

I just can't believe how bad we are, absolute 💩

I can't believe people still post this crap every time we lose away to sides with 10x our budget.

[mcohibs]

Time’s up Hanlon.

[J-C]

Far too open and poor decision making, there's zero point in having an attacking set up if you can't get on the ball to attack, we need to get possession.

[cabbageandribs1875]

wee nasty cantwell back

[Allant1981]

I can't believe people still post this crap every time we lose away to sides with 10x our budget.

Budgets don't excuse slack passing and crap defending

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

I can't believe people still post this crap every time we lose away to sides with 10x our budget.

The huns are there for the taking, it's not hard really

[scoopyboy]

I kind of expected this today.

I don't think going 442 at Ibrox with Boyle and Youan both in the 4.

NM will have learned hopefully

[Hibs90]

How on earth is Jeggo still on the park. Absolutely shocking stuff.

[mcohibs]

I can't believe people still post this crap every time we lose away to sides with 10x our budget.

Rangers budget is not to blame for the fact that we pass the ball straight to opposition.

[sauzeelegod]

This is LJ levels of pishness so far.

[cabbageandribs1875]

boyle not having much luck beating a player

[J-C]

FFS Newell again losing the ball, far too many poor performances today.

[Skol]

I think Montgomery will learn a lot today. I think the way he wants to play is fine mostly but not at ibrox or parkhead and he needs to compromise and adapt.

[wookie70]

We look like we have spent a lot of time learning how to knock it about at the back and none on how to keep it tight at the back. I know why teams play the way we are trying but I can't see it working with the squad we have and I'm not sure it ever will. Maloney tried similar and it just means we end up shelling it after a few risky passes. At last Levitt is on.

[TAHibby]

Allowed them to go 2-0 without having to do much and now we're struggling that they've turned it up a notch

[mcohibs]

boyle not having much luck beating a player

Hasn’t for months.

[wookie70]

Levitt already plays our best pass of the match

[Since452]

I can't believe people still post this crap every time we lose away to sides with 10x our budget.

Set up properly like Aberdeen did 541 and we might have had a chance.

[HarpOnHibee]

I can't believe people still post this crap every time we lose away to sides with 10x our budget.

You'd think we'd want to force the team with 10x the budget to play like a team with 10x the budget. Rather than making it as easy as possible for them.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Hasn’t for months.


he's getting on a bit :wink:

[SHODAN]

Hopefully now Montgomery has learned you can't play an attacking team away at the OF.

[BILLYHIBS]

Brilliant ball from Levitt

Sorry my tv 5 minutes behind play 😀

Miller skinned and booked

[A Hi-Bee]

I think Montgomery will learn a lot today. I think the way he wants to play is fine mostly but not at ibrox or parkhead and he needs to compromise and adapt.

agree he will learn, and the time for talking is over we need better dont mind the getting beat by them bassas but lets fight them.

[BILLYHIBS]

3-0

Sima

[badabing67]

Ffs

[MikeyS]

Hopefully now Montgomery has learned you can't play an attacking team away at the OF.

Well, you can as we have proved in the past. We just cannot try it with this squad of players.

[Mon Dieu4]

****ing shocking

[overdrive]

Defensive shambles again. Hanlon needs to go too.

[cabbageandribs1875]

easy peasy 3-0

[Fuzzywuzzy]

****ing ****ity ****ing ****

[Hibs90]

More top class defending there.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

No surprises there for the third. Getting what we deserve I think.

[Berwickhibby]

Utter utter pish defending again ….Hanlon and Marshall are finished

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Monty, get your targets sorted soon please

[JJP]

We must be the easiest team in the league to play against.

[J-C]

Comedy defending, panic stations in the box, all over the place.

[Joe6-2]

Hopefully, please hopefully we now have a manager who will see our defence needs serious work

[Spike Mandela]

League table not looking good tonight.

[HH81]

Monty, get your targets sorted soon please

He will be doing

[Stuart93]

Only listened on the radio but we’ve sounded absolutely ****ing awful

Not good enough from the players and questionable tactics at Ibrox from the manager

Not good enough

[supermcginn]

Hanlon is dreadful.

[HarpOnHibee]

Hopefully now Montgomery has learned you can't play an attacking team away at the OF.

You can. You just can't piss about at the back when they're pressing high. Attacking football can still happen with long balls up the pitch, if there's strength in the midfield to take the ball down and hold it up for the forward players.

[Allant1981]

Only listened on the radio but we’ve sounded absolutely ****ing awful

It's not been pretty

[Hibby70]

Don't think anyone gets pass marks today. Awful throughout the team

[Since90+2]

Midfield, defence and goalkeeper all not good enough. We have good forward options but the majority of the team is either average or *****.

[SHODAN]

Jair'll sort it.

[badabing67]

Did Jair just bless himself there

[mcohibs]

Midfield, defence and goalkeeper all not good enough. We have good forward options but the majority of the team is either average or *****.

Spot on.

[The Harp Awakes]

We must be the easiest team in the league to play against.

Yep, tippy tappy stuff across the pitch and backwards. No goal threat whatsoever.

[He's here!]

5-0 incoming.

[NC1875]

We’ve needed centre half’s for how long and we’re still playing Hanlon. Our defence is a shambles and Montgomery will go the same way as the previous managers if he doesn’t sort it in January

[MWHIBBIES]

The huns are there for the taking, it's not hard really

They're not, don't be daft.

[Coach Jon]

Slow ponderous football from the back, we have made it so easy for them.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Ibrox is always difficult, and they have a new manager in today, so were always going to be fully motivated. It’s a bit of a shoeing now.

[Hibees1973]

Surely Hanlon will be dropped next week and replaced by Bushiri.

Bushiri is not much of an upgrade but Hanlon must be dropped after what he has brought today.

Marshall can sit on the bench as well.

Today highlights how short we are of decent depth in the squad and the transfer window still over 2 months away.:rolleyes:

[The Captain....]

This will hopefully be the last time we see Hanlon and Marshall.

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[wookie70]

Those subs are bizarre, mind you not a single player has pass marks today. Absolutely honking and looked like we have been so leggy it looks like we played 90 minutes before we started

[Since90+2]

They're not, don't be daft.

Aberdeen seemed to manage it. They are a good side, but to suggest we can't beat them because of the budget is nonsense, as was proven when a team 1/7 of their budget beat them a few weeks ago.

[WhileTheChief..]

Hopefully, please hopefully we now have a manager who will see our defence needs serious work

You'd like to think so.

If our defence was better, the gulf in budgets between us wouldn't matter so much and we'd have half a chance.

With the squad we've got, performances and results like today will continue to be a regular thing.

[bordergreen]

agree he will learn, and the time for talking is over we need better dont mind the getting beat by them bassas but lets fight them.

Hopefully he does. There is a massive gulf in class between the old firm and the rest. You need to play them in a way you can stifle their game and hit them with pace/trickery. You can’t stick with a rigid system as that is the way you want to play, against them. Hopefully he does something different against Celtic.

[Chorley Hibee]

Too many that just don't fancy it when they go to Ibrox/Parkhead etc.

Piss poor today, and confirming my belief that this squad is still choked with players that aren't good enough.

There cannot be any ****ing around in January, we need considerable quality brought in.

[Since452]

Think he probably dropped Rocky as he was away on international duty. I could see why he did it but ultimately it was the wrong decision. Rocky is better it's as simple as that.

[WhileTheChief..]

Ibrox is always difficult, and they have a new manager in today, so were always going to be fully motivated. It’s a bit of a shoeing now.

When we get a new manager, he needs time to settle.

When another team gets a new manager they get a bounce and are motivated to do well :greengrin

[MikeyS]

We’ve needed centre half’s for how long and we’re still playing Hanlon. Our defence is a shambles and Montgomery will go the same way as the previous managers if he doesn’t sort it in January

Been required since 2019! Scandalous really.

[MWHIBBIES]

Aberdeen seemed to manage it. They are a good side, but to suggest we can't beat them because of the budget is nonsense, as was proven when a team 1/7 of their budget beat them a few weeks ago.

Yes, and naturally they've bounced back. Aberdeen doing it makes it less likely we would. They also got a new gaffer, who has done well at clubs before. Not Steven Davies.

[Unseen work]

Thought Rocky was the issue?

[Since90+2]

When we get a new manager, he needs time to settle.

When another team gets a new manager they get a bounce and are motivated to do well :greengrin

We've not lost under Montgomery before today.

[Hibs90]

The whole defence and goalkeeper needs changed.

A lot of surgery needed in Jan.

[Heisenberg]

When we get a new manager, he needs time to settle.

When another team gets a new manager they get a bounce and are motivated to do well :greengrin

This will be our first loss since our new manager arrived. Definitely got a bounce after he came in.

[MWHIBBIES]

Been required since 2019! Scandalous really.

20/21, played every week in our best defence in years.

[Stuart93]

Naive from our manager today I’m afraid

[WhileTheChief..]

We've not lost under Montgomery before today.

I know :aok:

[Glory Lurker]

We've not lost under Montgomery before today.

Game's no finished yet. Hope that comment comes back to bite you :-)

[WhileTheChief..]

This will be our first loss since our new manager arrived. Definitely got a bounce after he came in.

I know :aok:

[Heisenberg]

Naive from our manager today I’m afraid

He’s not changing his style or setup for anyone or anything by the looks of it. Just going to have to try and sign players to make it more effective.

[Since90+2]

Yes, and naturally they've bounced back. Aberdeen doing it makes it less likely we would. They also got a new gaffer, who has done well at clubs before. Not Steven Davies.

What's Steven Davies got to do with Aberdeen beating them? It was Beale in charge.

[scoopyboy]

Thought Rocky was the issue?

He's not good enough.

You think just because he's not playing today he's the answer to our defensive issues?

[Hibs90]

Naive from our manager today I’m afraid

Couldn't wait could you.

It's not his fault Marshall is finished or he's stuck with Fish/Hanlon/Rocky at CB.

[Tully]

No use beating about the bush we have been garbage, a shocking performance , miles of the pace , manager cannot take anything out of this display

[NC1875]

I was pretty down about the score so far but your post really made me laugh.

I must be missing the funny part ?

[wookie70]

Idiotic by Newell. Is Boyle not fit, he looks like he hasn't got any energy

[MWHIBBIES]

What's Steven Davies got to do with Aberdeen beating them? It was Beale in charge.

There you go. He was hopeless too.

[blackpoolhibs]

Rocky not looking so bad as a left sided centre half now. As for Montgomery will learn after today, how many managers is that that need to get their team humped before knowing you cant set up suicidle like he did today.

Do they have dvd's at HTC or even old videos? :rolleyes:

[Callum_62]

Referee doing his best to block Jair there

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[A Hi-Bee]

5-0 incoming.

Would that make you happy, or what would you do about this team.

[Trinity Hibee]

Never want to give up points easily but today was always going to be tough to get anything particularly with a new manager being in place. Unfortunately it will be the same next week. After these games we really need to kick on and start winning games. Only positive is neither hearts or Aberdeen are picking up loads of points either.

[Hibs90]

The reality is we are stuck with this defence until January and hope that whoever comes in to replace them is miles better.

[Unseen work]

Good play from Jair, great ball to Youan who fluffs his lines

[wookie70]

Jair has looked decent

[Hibs90]

4.

5 or 6 incoming.

[HarpOnHibee]

We're 3-0 down and STILL playing our way into trouble at the back. The endless casual passing between Marshall and the defenders when Rangers are pressing high is beyond criminal. It shows a complete lack of common sense.

[Unseen work]

4-0

[The Captain....]

Disappointing we couldn't keep it tight for an hour..we've gifted Rangers so many chances and too many individuals haven't turned up today and didnt fancy it. Made it so easy for a Rangers team even their own fans think is one of their worst in years.



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[badabing67]

Another one. Welcome to Scottish football Monty

[overdrive]

4-0. Even that Dessers can score against us. Useless

[wookie70]

Utterly embarrassing goal to lose. Statues

[Since90+2]

There you go. He was hopeless too.

So nothing to do with Steven Davies then. Happy to clear that up for you.

[jeffers]

Rocky 🤣

[mcohibs]

Fear for us against Celtic.

[Exuberance1875]

Miles off it today. Shocking

[J-C]

Change defenders and still the defence looks pish.

[Unseen work]

That is horrendous.

Obita is marking him and then just leaves him to go into no man’s land

[Since452]

Massive learning curve for Montgomery. It's not the A League

[MWHIBBIES]

We're 3-0 down and STILL playing our way into trouble at the back. The endless casual passing between Marshall and the defenders when Rangers are pressing high is beyond criminal. It shows a complete lack of common sense.

It shows a lack of quality. It is the best way to play if you can do it. Hoofing it wouldn't help us either.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

What a ****ing embarrassment

[Hibs90]

That is horrendous.

Obita is marking him and then just leaves him to go into no man’s land

Don't see it with Obita. He's not very good.

[hibee-boys]

Absolute joke of a defense

[SHODAN]

Not a 4-0 but still pretty pish.

[J-C]

Rocky 🤣

But but but he's better than Hanlon seemingly.

[Joe6-2]

We're 3-0 down and STILL playing our way into trouble at the back. The endless casual passing between Marshall and the defenders when Rangers are pressing high is beyond criminal. It shows a complete lack of common sense.

It’s just beyond belief

[Alfred E Newman]

It's ok going with three strikers but it is suicidal to go into these games without a competitive midfield. We are not great defensively but they are left exposed too often.

[Callum_62]

Massive learning curve for Montgomery. It's not the A LeagueI'm pretty sure he knew that weeks ago to be fair

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[mcohibs]

Not a 4-0 but still pretty pish.

It's 4-0.

[Berwickhibby]

Absolutely bad…this is embarrassing…feels like LJ is back in charge …we have offered nothing

[Iain G]

Massive learning curve for Montgomery. It's not the A League

I think he is aware of that already so doesn't need to still learn that fact 🤣

[OtleyHibs]

Couple of decent balls from Jair since coming on, about the only positive I can find today

[cabbageandribs1875]

thankfully i'd already switched channels and missed the 4th

[Stuart93]

From what I listened to it was every bit a 4-0

[MWHIBBIES]

So nothing to do with Steven Davies then. Happy to clear that up for you.

No. But a lot to do with them now having a competent, proven manager. Happy to clear that up for you.

[Hibs90]

Special mention for Newell today, hopeless.

[HoboHarry]

Massive learning curve for Montgomery. It's not the A League

:doh:

[Lancs Harp]

Be very interesting to see how quickly Monty learns from this and what we do and perform against Celtic next week. Disappointing to lose to a pretty bang average Rangers team especially going into the game with a bit of a run and confidence on the rise.
Im in the doubting Thomas crew regarding 4-4-2 especially against the "better" teams in the SPL.

[The Harp Awakes]

Massive learning curve for Montgomery. It's not the A League

Playing 2 lightweight wingers at Tynecastle and Ibrox is suicide. Got away with it at Tiny, Never going to get enough possession for them to be effective.

[Allant1981]

But but but he's better than Hanlon seemingly.

No seemingly about it, he is

[Since452]

Playing 2 lightweight wingers at Tynecastle and Ibrox is suicide. Got away with it at Tiny, Never going to get enough possession for them to be effective.

Yup. We got away with one at Tynecastle. They had about 25 shots which Montgomery was boasting about us having against Dundee.

[Iain G]

Special mention for Newell today, hopeless.

In fairness, he is wearing a moon boot and hobbling around on crutches 🤣

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Perhaps a 4321 would have been better today, and should probably be used against Celtc.

[A Hi-Bee]

Absolute joke of a defense

The loan player gets a hat trick, second player from England to get a hat trick against Hibs.
Good learning curve for Monty and his crew.

[Since90+2]

No. But a lot to do with them now having a competent, proven manager. Happy to clear that up for you.

Beale has the highest win percentage of any Rangers manager in history who's managed in the top flight. I highly doubt this new guy will top that.

You clearly made an arse of yourself as usual with the Davies part, but instead of just saying so you continue to make nonsense points.

[HarpOnHibee]

It shows a lack of quality. It is the best way to play if you can do it. Hoofing it wouldn't help us either.

It's the best way to play when the opposition team backs off. It's never the best way to play when the opposition are pressing high. The ball can only be moved around so quickly on the ground and it's never going to be quick enough when every defender is being man marked.

[JJP]

We are shambolic. You don’t expect to win at Ibrox but the manner of this defeat is embarrassing. This system we are playing seems to be putting us under pressure needlessly and this manager needs to change it or we are in for a very long season.

[soupy]

No seemingly about it, he is

Not much between them unfortunately

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Playing 2 lightweight wingers at Tynecastle and Ibrox is suicide. Got away with it at Tiny, Never going to get enough possession for them to be effective.

And our goals coming from one of those light weight wingers.

[Hibees1973]

Bad day.

Would have hoped after a couple of months at the club Montgomery would have set us up with a good defensive structure and be difficult to beat in Glasgow.

Clearly not the case today.

This is not a criticism of Montgomery as everyone on hibs.net knows where our weaknesses lie, defensive midfield and the back four. He can't perform miracles with players we know are not good enough, even before he arrived.

It's going to be a bit unpredictable over the next few months, but after the Celtic game we have easier fixtures to come.

After today I am less hopeful for our semi final against Aberdeen, but can only hope.

[J-C]

No seemingly about it, he is

TBH both are not good enough, add Fish to that.

[He's here!]

This has been worse than anything under LJ or Maloney.

[A Hi-Bee]

It's ok going with three strikers but it is suicidal to go into these games without a competitive midfield. We are not great defensively but they are left exposed too often.

We could have six in midfield and still been pisch.
We need better quality than Jeggo and Newall who are o.k. at times but not enough.

[Exuberance1875]

Tavares genuinely doesn’t look like he wants to be out there

[Iain G]

This has been worse than anything under LJ or Maloney.

And the Perrier Award goes to...

[cabbageandribs1875]

will we have set a new world record for pass backs to the keeper

[Lago]

Idiotic by Newell. Is Boyle not fit, he looks like he hasn't got any energy
Don't think he's the player he was before injury.

[Allant1981]

Tavares genuinely doesn’t look like he wants to be out there

He shouldn't be, he is rank, he really adds nothing to the team, and that's not just based on today's gubbing

[scoopyboy]

Quicker this game is over the better.

The substitutions show just how poor we are squad wise, Levitt being the exception

[wookie70]

Whittaker defended that exceptionally well. Looks to be very aware of his position on the pitch

[Heisenberg]

This has been worse than anything under LJ or Maloney.

This patter again ffs

[supermcginn]

But but but he's better than Hanlon seemingly.

Have you watched Hanlon today? He's garbage

[Ronniekirk]

Even worse this hslf

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

A lot of players today will be looking for their P45's soon

[MWHIBBIES]

Beale has the highest win percentage of any Rangers manager in history who's managed in the top flight. I highly doubt this new guy will top that.

You clearly made an arse of yourself as usual with the Davies part, but instead of just saying so you continue to make nonsense points.

I've really not make an arse of myself. But okay.

Beale was sacked, binned, punted. He was toiling before Aberdeen. Facing him was far better than facing this guy. Only a dunce would argue that.

This guy won 3 Belgian titles in a row. You doubt he'll do better than a guy who had 15 games at QPR? :faf:

[blackpoolhibs]

Tavares genuinely doesn’t look like he wants to be out there

I dont want him out there either.

[Chorley Hibee]

Tavares genuinely doesn’t look like he wants to be out there

As well as lacking the obvious quality, there's too many in the team that don't have the drive, or mental strength, required to take Hibs where we want.

Particularly so in these more difficult games.

[hibee-boys]

20 league games without beating them, horrific stat.

[Hibernia&Alba]

That horrible feeling of yet another spanking at Ipox

[wookie70]

If you play with two wingers they really need to either help in defence or be impactful on the ball. Neither have done either albeit Youan has actually put a few decent challenges in

[A Hi-Bee]

This has been worse than anything under LJ or Maloney.

Aye we probably need you on the coaching staff.
:faf:

[Hibees1973]

Tavares genuinely doesn’t look like he wants to be out there

Would you want to come on when getting pumped.

[A Hi-Bee]

Would you want to come on when getting pumped.

Would depend who she was!!!!
:greengrin

[Alfred E Newman]

Alarmingly we are now only 2 points from 11th having played 2 games more than Ross County and Dundee. :worried:

[Shanksaidno]

Bad day.

Would have hoped after a couple of months at the club Montgomery would have set us up with a good defensive structure and be difficult to beat in Glasgow.

Clearly not the case today.

This is not a criticism of Montgomery as everyone on hibs.net knows where our weaknesses lie, defensive midfield and the back four. He can't perform miracles with players we know are not good enough, even before he arrived.

It's going to be a bit unpredictable over the next few months, but after the Celtic game we have easier fixtures to come.

After today I am less hopeful for our semi final against Aberdeen, but can only hope.



Yes ... am really disappointed that Montgomery hasnt seen that our players have a lot of weaknesses especially after Tiny. Expected him to change things a bit to minimise the weaknesses through tactical means. Thought he would have been all over this but today has looked naive which ins never good. Has openend himself up for criticism

[JJP]

What a season this is turning into.

[badabing67]

That will put the brakes on the ticket sales for the semi

[sauzeelegod]

Perhaps a 4321 would have been better today, and should probably be used against Celtc.

Agreed. Or a 4312. Need Levitt to be playing regularly as he’s the best passer we have.

[A Hi-Bee]

Yes ... am really disappointed that Montgomery hasnt seen that our players have a lot of weaknesses especially after Tiny. Expected him to change things a bit to minimise the weaknesses through tactical means. Thought he would have been all over this but today has looked naive which ins never good. Has openend himself up for criticism

No sure what he would have done, he put out what most said was our strongest team.

[Stuart93]

We need to start improving results pronto.

[soupy]

Squad is simply not good enough, from goalkeeper right through to the subs, too many players simply not got it.

[wookie70]

Very poor performance. Tactically poor and really handed them the game being so open. Players need to take a look at themselves though as they simply never competed. We need a performance again Celtic and then start to pick up some points.

[Unseen work]

Poor.

Hopefully Montgomery learns from this

[Not In The Know]

If you play with two wingers they really need to either help in defence or be impactful on the ball. Neither have done either albeit Youan has actually put a few decent challenges in

yup. We basically play 424 with them both on the pitch.

annoyingly Boyle against England worked back loads of times

[Hibernia&Alba]

We seem to get hammered there more often than at Parkhead. Our goal difference at Ibrox must be horrific overall.

[B.H.F.C]

Defensively shocking. We can’t compete with this squad. It’s shambolic.

[Hibees1973]

This has been worse than anything under LJ or Maloney.

You haven't watched Hibs much in the last 2 years.

[HarpOnHibee]

Alarmingly we are now only 2 points from 11th having played 2 games more than Ross County and Dundee. :worried:

We're also 2 points off 4th and still will be after tomorrow.

[Stuart93]

Alf before the game said we need to be mentally and tactically prepared.

Seems we were neither

[Bridge hibs]

The loan player gets a hat trick, second player from England to get a hat trick against Hibs.
Good learning curve for Monty and his crew.

Who scored a hat trick ?

[Since452]

Reminiscent of the 6-1 by Celtic this time last year. Can't go toe to toe in Glasgow. Why not look at what Aberdeen did and copy it? Huns have a new manager but only been there a matter of days. Horrible performance.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Poor.

Hopefully Montgomery learns from this

He will need to, because that’s a very poor Rangers team. We should at least be able to give them a game.

[flash]

What we did find out today was that Levitt needs to be in the team.
We looked far better with him in the middle of the park.
Can't think of anything much to say about anyone else other than the four forward players who started were all absolutely awful.

[ekhibee]

Tavares genuinely doesn’t look like he wants to be out there

For me he was one of the very few who can get any pass marks, at least he tried, and a good cross for Youan who ****ed it up completely.

[Chorley Hibee]

You haven't watched Hibs much in the last 2 years.

The worry is that these results/performances are just becoming the norm now.

Major surgery required on this squad.

[A Hi-Bee]

Think it may be a long season but with time Monty will get us playing as we should be, and higher up the table, too many quick to say otherwise and I question what teams they support.
:greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

possession

53%/47%



corners

5v4




fine margins :whistle:

[S4uzee]

That was absolute torture. Sometimes a result like that is needed for a manager to realise you can’t be so naive to play 4-4-2 in every game. I wonder what plan B is

[flash]

Tavares genuinely doesn’t look like he wants to be out there

You spelt Boyle wrong.

[A Hi-Bee]

What we did find out today was that Levitt needs to be in the team.
We looked far better with him in the middle of the park.
Can't think of anything much to say about anyone else other than the four forward players who started were all absolutely awful.

Forwards aint gonna do nothing with no service. No worried about the forwards we have but the rest including the one pretending to still be a goalie need looking at.

[Hibs90]

possession

53%/47%



corners

5v4




fine margins :whistle:

35% of that was just Marshall to Fish to Hanlon to Marshall etc

[blackpoolhibs]

We're also 2 points off 4th and still will be after tomorrow.

Congratulations, you are the first this season that i've seen who's said the immortal words, we are only so many point from 4th/3rd.:top marks

[HarpOnHibee]

possession

53%/47%



corners

5v4




fine margins :whistle:

Marshall MOTM with 80% of our possession and a 30% success rate from 231 passes.

[eastmainsmsh]

You spelt Boyle wrong.

Shame he can’t get going every game after his injury he must be fraustrated
Monty will now know who will be in his team after that today Newell needs dropped

[hibees 7062]

Who scored a hat trick ?

No one

[Allant1981]

Shame he can’t get going every game after his injury he must be fraustraded
Monty will now know who will be in his team after that today Newell needs dropped

Dropped after 1 bad game despite playing well pretty much all season?

[Bobby's Cinema]

That was absolute torture. Sometimes a result like that is needed for a manager to realise you can’t be so naive to play 4-4-2 in every game. I wonder what plan B is
Too many days like that in recent years with new managers seemingly using these games as a testing ground with zero pressure and license to get thumped.

I like the start NM has made up until now, I think he will want to chose his words carefully post match.

We must make sure there is no hangover from this run of games as we suffered a few times with LJ where is ran into further defeats on the back of it.

[wookie70]

You spelt Boyle wrong. He has been well off the pace and probably needs a week or more on the bench. Tavares was an improvement on Boyle when he came on and I do wonder if Youan being involved so much means Boyler is not as involved as he would like and his head is down.