What's your reaction when former Hibs players come back to play at ER? [Archive]

He's here!

10-10-2023, 11:03 AM

lyonhibs

10-10-2023, 11:08 AM

I came upon these highlights of our 3-2 win over Celtic under Collins at ER (couple of Boruc blunders, while Ma-Kalambay played well) and was struck by Gary Caldwell's reaction when he scored for Celtic. I'm guessing he was taking a lot of flak but it looked like he really wanted to stick it up us. Would the likes of Riordan, Brown, Griffiths etc have celebrated in front of the Hibs fans like that? He was never one of my favourite players but overall I thought he did a good job for us and was a bit surprised he took such relish in scoring against us. Mind you, Steven Pressley was a big player for Hearts for a long spell and I remember the Hearts fans being well hacked off when he kissed the Celtic badge after beating them at Tynie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1sdt3XqTbs

What are folks' thoughts on how we treat ex-Hibs players returning to ER with another club? Does it depend on how loved they were when they played for us? Or do you boo them regardless?

He'd been taking absolute dogs abuse that day, and for a period towards the end of his time at Hibs when it became known/clear that he was going to leave on a free.

Had he not just prior to this game been exposed as having a relationship or affair with some Rangers employee? "What's it like to **** a Hun" was certainly sung lustily that day by most of the old East, self included (if this is the game I'm thinking of)

Juice-Terry

10-10-2023, 11:14 AM

I came upon these highlights of our 3-2 win over Celtic under Collins at ER (couple of Boruc blunders, while Ma-Kalambay played well) and was struck by Gary Caldwell's reaction when he scored for Celtic. I'm guessing he was taking a lot of flak but it looked like he really wanted to stick it up us. Would the likes of Riordan, Brown, Griffiths etc have celebrated in front of the Hibs fans like that? He was never one of my favourite players but overall I thought he did a good job for us and was a bit surprised he took such relish in scoring against us. Mind you, Steven Pressley was a big player for Hearts for a long spell and I remember the Hearts fans being well hacked off when he kissed the Celtic badge after beating them at Tynie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1sdt3XqTbs

What are folks' thoughts on how we treat ex-Hibs players returning to ER with another club? Does it depend on how loved they were when they played for us? Or do you boo them regardless?
For me, it depends how they conducted themselves while at our club.

He's here!

10-10-2023, 11:28 AM

He'd been taking absolute dogs abuse that day, and for a period towards the end of his time at Hibs when it became known/clear that he was going to leave on a free.

Had he not just prior to this game been exposed as having a relationship or affair with some Rangers employee? "What's it like to **** a Hun" was certainly sung lustily that day by most of the old East, self included (if this is the game I'm thinking of)

Interesting to hear that. I was abroad for a spell at that time so missed quite a lot of that season.

ZitellZeTime

10-10-2023, 11:54 AM

I was barely a teen when crunchie went back to Falkirk and can't remember if he scored against us but I always remember him getting a great reception from both us and Falkirk fans each time.

Can remember his goal where he played amazing and carried Falkirk in the semi v Hearts managing to score a cracker to get them back in it late only for Hearts to then go on to 3-1. He looked gutted. Could tell he didn't want them to have a chance of winning the cup !

Mcbizz1998

10-10-2023, 12:16 PM

One of my favourite ever wins over one of the uglies.

As someone mentioned above, he got a LOT of stick that day. "what's it like to sh*g a hun?" and "you're just a hun sh*gging *********" - are the 2 chants in particular that were being belted out by the old East cow shed. His reaction after scoring was fair enough all things considered, but good old Boruc gave us the last laugh and made Hibs the only unbeaten team in the league after the first round of fixtures.

:flag:

EDIT: just watched the youtube link and you can hear the second of those chants being sung just after Caldwell scores, as he is getting booked.

Ryan91

10-10-2023, 12:28 PM

I came upon these highlights of our 3-2 win over Celtic under Collins at ER (couple of Boruc blunders, while Ma-Kalambay played well) and was struck by Gary Caldwell's reaction when he scored for Celtic. I'm guessing he was taking a lot of flak but it looked like he really wanted to stick it up us. Would the likes of Riordan, Brown, Griffiths etc have celebrated in front of the Hibs fans like that? He was never one of my favourite players but overall I thought he did a good job for us and was a bit surprised he took such relish in scoring against us. Mind you, Steven Pressley was a big player for Hearts for a long spell and I remember the Hearts fans being well hacked off when he kissed the Celtic badge after beating them at Tynie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1sdt3XqTbs

What are folks' thoughts on how we treat ex-Hibs players returning to ER with another club? Does it depend on how loved they were when they played for us? Or do you boo them regardless?

Caldwell and Ian Murray before him got a lot of stick when they returned to ER in opposition colours, due in part to them having signed pre-contract agreements with the Ugly Sisters meaning Hibs got nothing for them.

I try to avoid booing former players unless they end up at Hearts or the Ugly Sisters

easty

10-10-2023, 12:36 PM

Don't be a prick and don't get booed.

I dinnae have a huge objection to players leaving us to go to Rangers or Celtc. More money, more european football, more opportunity to get international football, and a better chance of a good potential move south. Especially when it's a player who doesn't have a life-long emotional connection to Hibs.

Treat the club who's helped you get where you can with a bit of respect, it's not difficult to not bad mouth your team.

Logie Green

10-10-2023, 12:47 PM

hibby rae

10-10-2023, 01:03 PM

He'd been taking absolute dogs abuse that day, and for a period towards the end of his time at Hibs when it became known/clear that he was going to leave on a free.

Had he not just prior to this game been exposed as having a relationship or affair with some Rangers employee? "What's it like to **** a Hun" was certainly sung lustily that day by most of the old East, self included (if this is the game I'm thinking of)

Think that was the same game where Riordan had recently been arrested. So there were lots of chants to do with activities he might be getting up to in Saughton

Newry Hibs

10-10-2023, 01:05 PM

'Celtc' banner :tee hee:

He's here!

10-10-2023, 01:08 PM

[QUOTE=Ryan91;7485117]Caldwell and Ian Murray before him got a lot of stick when they returned to ER in opposition colours, due in part to them having signed pre-contract agreements with the Ugly Sisters meaning Hibs got nothing for them.

The difference between Caldwell and Murray is that Caldwell was honest about signing a pre-contract. Murray tried to keep his cards close to his chest then on the morning of the Ivan Sproule game near the start of the following season he admitted he always knew he was going to Ibrox.

He deserved all the stick he got from Hibs fans at Ibrox that day.

In saying that they both gave us good service and Murray ultimately returned to play for us again. It's a short career and sometimes you just have to take the opportunity of a lot more money/bigger stage when it's there.

I think the service you gave to Hibs counts for a lot. I don't imagine, for example, that Gordon Smith or Pat Stanton got booed on their returns - even if Smith was playing for Hearts.

Can't recall if Craig Paterson got abuse when he returned as a Rangers player, though I imagine Colin Stein did.

A former manager who probably should have got stick was Jock Stein who left us on the brink of a league and cup double.

Mon Dieu4

10-10-2023, 01:22 PM

Depends on how you leave, Thomson, Murray and Caldwell quite rightly got dogs abuse with the way they left and conducted themselves afterwards, Whittaker got his head down, got on with it, moved amicably and never bad mouthed Hibs, he got less abuse as a result

tamig

10-10-2023, 01:31 PM

[QUOTE=Logie Green;7485122]

In saying that they both gave us good service and Murray ultimately returned to play for us again. It's a short career and sometimes you just have to take the opportunity of a lot more money/bigger stage when it's there.

I think the service you gave to Hibs counts for a lot. I don't imagine, for example, that Gordon Smith or Pat Stanton got booed on their returns - even if Smith was playing for Hearts.

Can't recall if Craig Paterson got abuse when he returned as a Rangers player, though I imagine Colin Stein did.

A former manager who probably should have got stick was Jock Stein who left us on the brink of a league and cup double.

Craig Paterson certainly did. “Craigie Paterson, Craigie Paterson, Whats it like to be a hun”. - belted out with gusto at ER on his return. Might even have been his first game for them.

JimBHibees

10-10-2023, 01:35 PM

BILLYHIBS

10-10-2023, 01:37 PM

[QUOTE=Logie Green;7485122]

In saying that they both gave us good service and Murray ultimately returned to play for us again. It's a short career and sometimes you just have to take the opportunity of a lot more money/bigger stage when it's there.

I think the service you gave to Hibs counts for a lot. I don't imagine, for example, that Gordon Smith or Pat Stanton got booed on their returns - even if Smith was playing for Hearts.

Can't recall if Craig Paterson got abuse when he returned as a Rangers player, though I imagine Colin Stein did.

A former manager who probably should have got stick was Jock Stein who left us on the brink of a league and cup double.

LOL Craig Paterson defo got stick the whole ground singing ‘ What’s it like to be a Hun ? ‘

Him being a Hibby and his Dad being a Hibs legend as well

Don’t think he wanted to leave in the first place

Colin Stein took the sting out of things by scoring a hat-trick against us at Ibrox in one of his early games but we had found a new hero in Joe McBride

Any dog that strayed onto the pitch at ER which was quite common in them days was treated to a rendition of ‘ Colin Colin Colin Stein ‘

NAE NOOKIE

10-10-2023, 02:02 PM

You find the ones who have treated the club and fans with respect before and after are fine. Any slight perceived or imaginary is gonna get you dugs abuse ... For me Kenny Miller chucking himself into the Orc masses after scoring at ER made him one of my least favourite ex Hibs players, especially considering Hibs gave him his pathway into professional football.

SJM is the other side of that coin ... nothing but respect for the club and fans before and after he left, how anybody could find it in themselves to boo him when he returned with Aston Villa was beyond me.

Hibbyradge

10-10-2023, 02:02 PM

He'd been taking absolute dogs abuse that day, and for a period towards the end of his time at Hibs when it became known/clear that he was going to leave on a free.

Had he not just prior to this game been exposed as having a relationship or affair with some Rangers employee? "What's it like to **** a Hun" was certainly sung lustily that day by most of the old East, self included (if this is the game I'm thinking of)

Iirc, "What's it like to be a Hun" was sung first at Craig Patterson.

Since452

10-10-2023, 02:04 PM

A SJM returning is very different to a Gary Caldwell returning. More often than not i couldn't care less.

Hibbyradge

10-10-2023, 02:05 PM

[QUOTE=He's here!;7485139]

Craig Paterson certainly did. “Craigie Paterson, Craigie Paterson, Whats it like to be a hun”. - belted out with gusto at ER on his return. Might even have been his first game for them.

It was and he was really gutted by it because he was, and still is, a Hibby through and through.

McD

10-10-2023, 02:25 PM

Hibbyradge

10-10-2023, 02:28 PM

This. Treat the club with respect, you’ll get it back. Act the goat or be disrespectful, then you’ll get dogs abuse.

Caldwell got dogs abuse while he was still a Hibs player. He hadn't acted the goat or been disrespectful.

Donegal Hibby

10-10-2023, 02:32 PM

All depends on how the player left us and conducted himself.
Thomshun, Kamberi, Caldwell 😡

SJM , Fletcher, Brown 😃

ancient hibee

10-10-2023, 02:34 PM

All depends on how the player left us and conducted himself.
Thomshun, Kamberi, Caldwell 😡

SJM , Fletcher, Brown 😃

Caldwell did absolutely nothing wrong when he left.

BILLYHIBS

10-10-2023, 02:37 PM

Caldwell did absolutely nothing wrong when he left.

👍

Told us from the word go what his intentions were was upfront

Remember he came back and cupped his ear at the East when he opened the scoring

Celtic lost

ancient hibee

10-10-2023, 02:44 PM

👍

Told us from the word go what his intentions were was upfront

Remember he came back and cupped his ear at the East when he opened the scoring

Celtic lost

Yes. Biter was bit.

Donegal Hibby

10-10-2023, 02:49 PM

Caldwell did absolutely nothing wrong when he left.

Probably not though just never liked the guy , wasn't impressed when Maloney took him back as his assistant either.

BILLYHIBS

10-10-2023, 02:51 PM

Probably not though just never liked the guy , wasn't impressed when Maloney took him back as his assistant either.

Did the dirty on Celtic pulled out of a contract extension meeting with Strachan and signed for Wigan behind his back IIRC

BILLYHIBS

10-10-2023, 02:53 PM

Looking forward to Kevin Thomshun 😂

He's here!

10-10-2023, 03:45 PM

[QUOTE=He's here!;7485139]

LOL Craig Paterson defo got stick the whole ground singing ‘ What’s it like to be a Hun ? ‘

Him being a Hibby and his Dad being a Hibs legend as well

Don’t think he wanted to leave in the first place

Colin Stein took the sting out of things by scoring a hat-trick against us at Ibrox in one of his early games but we had found a new hero in Joe McBride

Any dog that strayed onto the pitch at ER which was quite common in them days was treated to a rendition of ‘ Colin Colin Colin Stein ‘

We were desperate for the money at that time and he was our only significant asset. He went on to have a decent career, but was always a Hibs fan.

As you say his dad had played for the club in far more illustrious times:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/former-hibs-captain-craig-paterson-7397396

Smartie

10-10-2023, 03:46 PM

Caldwell got dogs abuse while he was still a Hibs player. He hadn't acted the goat or been disrespectful.

I never really took to him. There were a few occasions when he did don’t sign in with us, put himself in the shop window then signed for us when there was nowt else better out there. He refused to pass the ball to Sproule in a cup semi, eventually to our cost. He then ran his contract down and left for nowt. He was largely average but played in a good team and carried the aura of someone who thought he was better than us.

Relative to others these are hardly the crimes of the century but I could never warm to him. We’d probably get through 20 odd centre halves I’ve preferred watching play for Hibs over him, so when he returned to ER and made an arse of himself I thought we were perfectly entitled to have a laugh at him.

Mon Dieu4

10-10-2023, 03:55 PM

I never really took to him. There were a few occasions when he did don’t sign in with us, put himself in the shop window then signed for us when there was nowt else better out there. He refused to pass the ball to Sproule in a cup semi, eventually to our cost. He then ran his contract down and left for nowt. He was largely average but played in a good team and carried the aura of someone who thought he was better than us.

Relative to others these are hardly the crimes of the century but I could never warm to him. We’d probably get through 20 odd centre halves I’ve preferred watching play for Hibs over him, so when he returned to ER and made an arse of himself I thought we were perfectly entitled to have a laugh at him.

Spot on, he's up there as possibly the player I disliked the most while they played for us, constant diagonal balls out of play, berating everyone else when he's made a mistake, hailing a taxi for offside at any opportunity, never liked the guy

EricM

10-10-2023, 03:58 PM

BILLYHIBS

10-10-2023, 04:02 PM

I never really took to him. There were a few occasions when he did don’t sign in with us, put himself in the shop window then signed for us when there was nowt else better out there. He refused to pass the ball to Sproule in a cup semi, eventually to our cost. He then ran his contract down and left for nowt. He was largely average but played in a good team and carried the aura of someone who thought he was better than us.

Relative to others these are hardly the crimes of the century but I could never warm to him. We’d probably get through 20 odd centre halves I’ve preferred watching play for Hibs over him, so when he returned to ER and made an arse of himself I thought we were perfectly entitled to have a laugh at him.

What I remember is we rescued him from Newcastle and relaunched his career

I also remember him giving 100% for the Hibee cause up until his last game once he told us he was leaving

Highlight scoring for Scotland v France

Lowlight being part of a failed management team

Hillsidehibby

10-10-2023, 04:08 PM

Ryan91

10-10-2023, 05:04 PM

Smartie

10-10-2023, 05:17 PM

Every time a topic like this comes up the first name I think of is Paul Hartley

He was a nobody when he was at hibs, the abuse he got whenever he returned seemed to spur him on every time unfortunately

Tin hat on but I developed a fair bit of respect for Hartley after he left us. He received dogs abuse but turned it into high quality performances and did his talking on the park rather than with infantile gestures and trash talk.

That’s the way it should be.

It was a desperate shame we could not have seen him in a green jersey as the central midfielder he became.

Hibbyradge

10-10-2023, 05:19 PM

Spot on, he's up there as possibly the player I disliked the most while they played for us, constant diagonal balls out of play, berating everyone else when he's made a mistake, hailing a taxi for offside at any opportunity, never liked the guy

Someone posted "Treat the club with respect, you’ll get it back. Act the goat or be disrespectful, then you’ll get dogs abuse."

You might not have liked him, but he did neither of those things.

Hiber-nation

10-10-2023, 05:22 PM

I don't normally berate ex players but when Gordon Durie signed for the Hun we played them at Ibrox and he ran straight up to us in the Broomloan and gave us the vickies. Hated him after that. Don't get me started on Paul Hartley either

And when he scored against us at ER, ran right along the side of the South Enclosure when we had our fans in there and did about half a dozen GIRUYs.

jacomo

10-10-2023, 06:08 PM

What I remember is we rescued him from Newcastle and relaunched his career

I also remember him giving 100% for the Hibee cause up until his last game once he told us he was leaving

Highlight scoring for Scotland v France

Lowlight being part of a failed management team

I’m not convinced he did give his all for us, especially his final few months.

When he got to Celtc he said he was training at a much higher level. I remember thinking: why didn’t you do that for us?

BILLYHIBS

10-10-2023, 06:18 PM

I’m not convinced he did give his all for us, especially his final few months.

When he got to Celtc he said he was training at a much higher level. I remember thinking: why didn’t you do that for us?

Beat Hearts and Killie drew with Celtic and lost his last three games getting booked in each game of course he cared 😀

He was our Captain when Celtic stole him

Defo tried

Hibbyradge

10-10-2023, 06:25 PM

I’m not convinced he did give his all for us, especially his final few months.

When he got to Celtc he said he was training at a much higher level. I remember thinking: why didn’t you do that for us?

He did give his all. If he hadn't been doing well for us, Celtic wouldn't have signed him.

I also remember most people wanting him to sign a new contract with us, hence the booing when he said he was going to Celtic.

The training at Celtic was a higher level because that's what their manager and coaches demanded from their players.

It's like the Hibs players saying they've never experienced a tougher training regime than Montgomery's one.

Malthibby

10-10-2023, 06:55 PM

[QUOTE=Logie Green;7485122]

In saying that they both gave us good service and Murray ultimately returned to play for us again. It's a short career and sometimes you just have to take the opportunity of a lot more money/bigger stage when it's there.

I think the service you gave to Hibs counts for a lot. I don't imagine, for example, that Gordon Smith or Pat Stanton got booed on their returns - even if Smith was playing for Hearts.

Can't recall if Craig Paterson got abuse when he returned as a Rangers player, though I imagine Colin Stein did.

A former manager who probably should have got stick was Jock Stein who left us on the brink of a league and cup double.

That doesn't get mentioned nearly often enough; he admitted to being embarrassed about leaving when he did, but he actively sought the Celtic job so must
have been able to cope with the embarrassment. Also let Ronnie Simpson go to Celtic while he was still Hibs manager, not long before he left (I think).
Winning the European Cup with a bunch of local guys was astounding, but I always felt a bit sour about him.

MikeyS

10-10-2023, 07:29 PM

I’m not convinced he did give his all for us, especially his final few months.

When he got to Celtc he said he was training at a much higher level. I remember thinking: why didn’t you do that for us?

I think he said the standard of training was another level above Hibs. Which I'm sure Brown & Riordan also said. In fact I'd absolutely believe that the standard of training even now at Celtic infact, is levels above ours.

Shrekko

10-10-2023, 08:14 PM

Think the support is very harsh on ex-players. I'm struggling to think of more than a handful who haven't been booed- it seems to be an automatic thing for a few fans.

We've had some of our 2016 cup winners booed which is mental- whatever the reason behind booing McGinn (and it was loud) it'll never not baffle and disappoint me.

There's not many I've wanted to boo- think Ian Murray deserved it, as did Thomson and I'd probably have booed Kamberi if he'd played against us with a crowd in.

jacomo

10-10-2023, 10:04 PM

I think he said the standard of training was another level above Hibs. Which I'm sure Brown & Riordan also said. In fact I'd absolutely believe that the standard of training even now at Celtic infact, is levels above ours.

You may well be right, but we don’t have that excuse any more. Our training facilities may not be as plush as others but functionally have everything a professional player needs. We have coaches, we have access to the same science as anyone else.

Obviously we’re not at the top of the pyramid but for the money a player earns at Hibs these days I see no reason why they wouldn’t train just as hard as players at any elite club.

Anyhow… I heartily booed both Caldwell and Murray at the time. :greengrin As a club we were skint and I felt we’d given a lot to both players without enough in return.

Generally speaking I never boo a returning player now, though it’s probably cos I’m older and wiser now!

Itsnoteasy

10-10-2023, 10:26 PM

1van Sprou7e

10-10-2023, 10:57 PM

One that comes to mind is John Rankin, he seemed to love getting it up us when he had the opoprtunity but I never knew why

Was he unpopular with our fans when he was here? Was just before my time

BILLYHIBS

11-10-2023, 06:10 AM

One that comes to mind is John Rankin, he seemed to love getting it up us when he had the opoprtunity but I never knew why

Was he unpopular with our fans when he was here? Was just before my time
Apart from the squiggler he was unspectacular a journeyman player expected more

Edit ;

Playing for Man United on Sunday

lyonhibs

11-10-2023, 07:24 AM

One that comes to mind is John Rankin, he seemed to love getting it up us when he had the opoprtunity but I never knew why

Was he unpopular with our fans when he was here? Was just before my time

He played in some oppressively mediocre teams at time but was the least of our worries in general at the time. Always put in a shift, could hit a ball as well. He was probably a target for the boo boys though.

Kato

11-10-2023, 07:42 AM

He played in some oppressively mediocre teams at time but was the least of our worries in general at the time. Always put in a shift, could hit a ball as well. He was probably a target for the boo boys though.Always appeared to put to put in a shift and hit the ball once or twice. Tragic form from a player.

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McD

11-10-2023, 11:00 AM

Caldwell got dogs abuse while he was still a Hibs player. He hadn't acted the goat or been disrespectful.

I didn’t say Caldwell deserved to get dogs abuse, or that he had acted the goat or been disrespectful. I didn’t mention him at all.

Bushwoof

11-10-2023, 11:20 AM

Didn't really mind Caldwell, although as has been mentioned, he wasn't anywhere near as good as he thought he was.
My recollection is that he had some real stinkers after agreeing to go to Celtc, which were interpreted by most as him having put the cue on the rack, hence the dislike. It may well have been that he just had a few off-days, but it did look like he was just winding down his contract.

Carheenlea

11-10-2023, 11:44 AM

I’ve always admired the ability of the Hibs support, predominantly in the East Stand, to identify anyone in the opposition who are former Hearts players, regardless of how few games they played for them. Some I’ve never really got much recollection of or even heard of.

It’s that kind of robust scrutiny that enables us all to join in.

HarpOnHibee

11-10-2023, 11:54 AM

It's all ****s and giggles in my opinion. People who lose their head at ex-players who celebrate or react a particular way when playing against their old club are quick to forget that it's ultimately just a game. I personally miss the times when players used to noise up opposition fans more, ex-players or not. It added to the overall atmosphere and made the chants towards the players funnier as well.

Baader

11-10-2023, 12:05 PM

Who were the last players to move directly from Hibs to Celtic and Rangers? Seems a little while ago either signed a player from us...

He's here!

11-10-2023, 01:18 PM

Who were the last players to move directly from Hibs to Celtic and Rangers? Seems a little while ago either signed a player from us...

Scott Allan maybe? Cummings and Kamberi had spells at Rangers but I think only on loan and not directly from Hibs.

EdinMike

11-10-2023, 01:23 PM

Who were the last players to move directly from Hibs to Celtic and Rangers? Seems a little while ago either signed a player from us...

Stokes ? Before he came back for the second spell ?

nonshinyfinish

11-10-2023, 01:23 PM

Scott Allan maybe? Cummings and Kamberi had spells at Rangers but I think only on loan and not directly from Hibs.

Kamberi's loan was directly from us.

lyonhibs

11-10-2023, 02:26 PM

Kamberi's loan was directly from us.

Absolute snake. I await the day I bump into him here in Zurich so I can share my opinions with him in a robust fashion.
He seems to currently be without a club, which is a shame.

Argylehibby

11-10-2023, 03:33 PM

[QUOTE=Ryan91;7485117]Caldwell and Ian Murray before him got a lot of stick when they returned to ER in opposition colours, due in part to them having signed pre-contract agreements with the Ugly Sisters meaning Hibs got nothing for them.

The difference between Caldwell and Murray is that Caldwell was honest about signing a pre-contract. Murray tried to keep his cards close to his chest then on the morning of the Ivan Sproule game near the start of the following season he admitted he always knew he was going to Ibrox.

He deserved all the stick he got from Hibs fans at Ibrox that day.

100%. Murray always denied he had signed a pre-contract and was announced as signed if not on the 1st day the window opened very close to it. He got deserved abuse for that.

Caldwell on the other hand “learned” from that and stated he’d signed a pre-contract as soon as it was signed no doubt expecting a different reaction.. he got as much if not more abuse than Murray. Didn’t help that on the first game after he announced he was leaving he gifted, I think Aberdeen, a goal early doors.

Deeks on the other hand is still treated as a hero despite signing a pre-contract which wouldn’t start until his birthday some weeks after a window opened. His contract expired before the window opened meaning he wouldn’t have been able to play for many weeks and would have been out of football for an extended period. This delay in signing would have denied Hibs money they were entitled to for his development and in effect forced Hibs to sell him early.

Smartie

11-10-2023, 03:51 PM

[QUOTE=Logie Green;7485122]

100%. Murray always denied he had signed a pre-contract and was announced as signed if not on the 1st day the window opened very close to it. He got deserved abuse for that.

Caldwell on the other hand “learned” from that and stated he’d signed a pre-contract as soon as it was signed no doubt expecting a different reaction.. he got as much if not more abuse than Murray. Didn’t help that on the first game after he announced he was leaving he gifted, I think Aberdeen, a goal early doors.

Deeks on the other hand is still treated as a hero despite signing a pre-contract which wouldn’t start until his birthday some weeks after a window opened. His contract expired before the window opened meaning he wouldn’t have been able to play for many weeks and would have been out of football for an extended period. This delay in signing would have denied Hibs money they were entitled to for his development and in effect forced Hibs to sell him early.

Deeks and Murray both came back and gave us decent second spells to redeem themselves for earlier sins though. Deeks especially got another decent haul of goals. Caldwell might well have improved his reputation in the eyes of us doubters if his return hadn't been a brief and unsuccessful spell alongside Maloney.

BILLYHIBS

11-10-2023, 04:00 PM

Ian Murray might have handled things better but at least he didn’t turn full Tonto Hun native and always remained true to his first love having a decent second spell with us a testimonial and can still be seen at many Hibernian functions and activities

Might turn into a decent Coach ?

Who can forget that 1973 haircut against the Hearts ?

Hibbyradge

11-10-2023, 04:07 PM

I didn’t say Caldwell deserved to get dogs abuse, or that he had acted the goat or been disrespectful. I didn’t mention him at all.

No, you didn't.

You said that if players treat the club with respect, they won't get abuse. I pointed out one occasion when the exact opposite happened.

eaststandstoner

11-10-2023, 04:36 PM

Hope they play s***e & lose, simple as that

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McD

11-10-2023, 07:23 PM

No, you didn't.

You said that if players treat the club with respect, they won't get abuse. I pointed out one occasion when the exact opposite happened.

I described how I see these situations, not how every one of the past examples actually took place, or how other people see these situations, many will see it differently.

I’m well aware of what happened with Caldwell, and others mentioned on this thread, I wasn’t claiming my thoughts were factual representations of history, so not sure why you felt it necessary to tell me about him.

Jones28

11-10-2023, 07:28 PM

I still cringe at the treatment Cummings got from some fans a couple of years ago. If anyone deserved respect from Hibs fans it’s that lad.

Hibernian Verse

11-10-2023, 08:41 PM

Does booing Michael Stewart on Sunday count?

Hibbyradge

11-10-2023, 08:42 PM

I described how I see these situations, not how every one of the past examples actually took place, or how other people see these situations, many will see it differently.

I’m well aware of what happened with Caldwell, and others mentioned on this thread, I wasn’t claiming my thoughts were factual representations of history, so not sure why you felt it necessary to tell me about him.

I thought this was the place for conversation?

McD

12-10-2023, 08:38 AM

I thought this was the place for conversation?

It is.

What you originally replied to my post didn’t so much come across as conversation as telling me that I’m wrong, because my personal opinion on a certain set of circumstances wasn’t how the general Hibs supporting population handled one specific instance of those circumstances. You immediately contradicted my point by saying that Caldwell wasn’t treated that way, as if I’m somehow responsible for how a proportion of Hibs fans didn’t respond as I described.

Maybe crossed wires.

Heisenberg

12-10-2023, 08:47 AM

I still cringe at the treatment Cummings got from some fans a couple of years ago. If anyone deserved respect from Hibs fans it’s that lad.

That’s who I immediately thought of when reading the thread. Some of the chants he got when we were playing at Dundee were horrific. Don’t think he got much of a warm reception at ER either.

MWHIBBIES

12-10-2023, 09:00 AM

I hope they have the worst game of their life and lose.

I boo'd the ones who were dicks like Brown, Thomson, Caldwell.

Hibernian Verse

12-10-2023, 09:02 AM

I hope they have the worst game of their life and lose.

I boo'd the ones who were dicks like Brown, Thomson, Caldwell.

Was Brown a dick? 4.4m transfer fee and won us a cup?

heretoday

12-10-2023, 09:21 AM

I can't remember what sort of reception Pat Stanton used to get when he returned with Celtic. I'm pretty sure it wasn't a volley of booing.

MWHIBBIES

12-10-2023, 09:51 AM

Was Brown a dick? 4.4m transfer fee and won us a cup?

And tried to break our players legs multiple times at Celtic.

nonshinyfinish

12-10-2023, 03:07 PM

I can't remember what sort of reception Pat Stanton used to get when he returned with Celtic. I'm pretty sure it wasn't a volley of booing.

I remember my dad saying that the first time he played against us, the crowd chanted 'Stanton is a Hibby'. Apparently on that first occasion it really got to him and he ended up getting subbed off.

Pete

13-10-2023, 09:01 AM

I know Kevin Thomson is universally seen as the bad guy, but didn't he return, play for us for practically nothing, and was a part of the squad that became legends? 🤔

easty

13-10-2023, 09:34 AM

I know Kevin Thomson is universally seen as the bad guy, but didn't he return, play for us for practically nothing, and was a part of the squad that became legends? 🤔

I loved Kevin Thomson when he broke through at Hibs. Great player, through the youth system, Hibs fan. It's what we want to see.

Then he turned into a wee hun bitch.

He made his bed, and now he can sleep in it...probably under his sevco duvet cover, with a poster of Tav on his wall.

BILLYHIBS

13-10-2023, 09:53 AM

I loved Kevin Thomson when he broke through at Hibs. Great player, through the youth system, Hibs fan. It's what we want to see.

Then he turned into a wee hun bitch.

He made his bed, and now he can sleep in it...probably under his sevco duvet cover, with a poster of Tav on his wall.
:agree:

Totally agree with this loved Kevin Thomson as a player through all his spells with us but anyone in any doubt only needs to tune in to Hun TV it is enough to make you want to reach for the sick bag especially in games against us

There is showing loyalty to your employer but KT really goes beyond the pale and takes it to the next level

I hate to say it but he really has turned full tonto Hun native

He has totally burnt his boats in my eyes

Cannae wait to hear his pearls of wisdom next Saturday :greengrin

MikeyS

13-10-2023, 10:37 AM

And tried to break our players legs multiple times at Celtic.

He was just as much of a dick as Thomson when trying to leave the club. He was just clever enough not to do it in plain sight via a national newspaper article!

KTs vanity got the better of him and lead to him taking the lions share of the verbals. Pair of them as bad as each other at the time.

Hibbyradge

13-10-2023, 10:52 AM

He was just as much of a dick as Thomson when trying to leave the club. He was just clever enough not to do it in plain sight via a national newspaper article!

What did he do when he was out of sight?

HendoDelivered

13-10-2023, 11:09 AM

Unless they have disrespected the fans or the club (or went straight to Hearts), booing a former play is just a bit strange IMO

He's here!

13-10-2023, 11:19 AM

I know Kevin Thomson is universally seen as the bad guy, but didn't he return, play for us for practically nothing, and was a part of the squad that became legends? 🤔

He did. O'Connor, Riordan, Murray, Whittaker, Thomson and Sproule from that generation all came back to play for us. Have I missed any?

BILLYHIBS

13-10-2023, 12:29 PM

[QUOTE=BILLYHIBS;7485145]

We were desperate for the money at that time and he was our only significant asset. He went on to have a decent career, but was always a Hibs fan.

As you say his dad had played for the club in far more illustrious times:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/former-hibs-captain-craig-paterson-7397396
:wink:

He was a Hibs fan and I also said he didn’t want to leave

Took some stick that day IIRC

worcesterhibby

13-10-2023, 02:02 PM

some players deserve a bit of stick, most don't. Football would be improved if more of the anger that is aimed at players past and present was channelled into positive support for whoever is wearing a green shirt with white sleeves on a Saturday.

Hibees1973

13-10-2023, 03:12 PM

One of the best reactions that I witnessed of a former player coming back to play at ER was Roughie.

We were on a very good run, probably top of the table at the time, when Roughie came back with Celtic. We were 3-0 up at half-time, none of the goals were the fault of Roughie.

Tbh I don't really hold a gripe of any player leaving us, even if they joined the OF. Players come and go, that's football.

WeeRussell

13-10-2023, 03:25 PM

What did he do when he was out of sight?

Well he turned me into a newt.

(I know, I know)

KeithTheHibby

14-10-2023, 02:58 PM

You move to one of the old firm direct from Hibs you get abuse regardless of who you are and deservedly so. Going elsewhere I think we have a lot more respect for the players.

B.H.F.C

14-10-2023, 03:39 PM

He was just as much of a dick as Thomson when trying to leave the club. He was just clever enough not to do it in plain sight via a national newspaper article!

KTs vanity got the better of him and lead to him taking the lions share of the verbals. Pair of them as bad as each other at the time.

I think the difference with Brown was that, once he realised it wasn’t happening, he knuckled down, helped us win a cup, and gave everything right up until his last game, scoring against Celtic was one of the last things he did for Hibs, even though we knew he was going there at that point.

Anybody who plays such a significant part in winning a cup as he did is a Hibs legend. Even if he did act like a dick on the pitch when he came back, that was just him and I loved it when he was acting like that playing for us.

BILLYHIBS

14-10-2023, 04:14 PM

4.4m was a good lift for us back in 2007

Cheap at half the price

He has sat beside us in the Hibs end at Hampden

Was sad to see him resorting to booting Slivka up in the air as he slowed down

LewysGot2

14-10-2023, 05:16 PM

He was just as much of a dick as Thomson when trying to leave the club. He was just clever enough not to do it in plain sight via a national newspaper article!

KTs vanity got the better of him and lead to him taking the lions share of the verbals. Pair of them as bad as each other at the time.

One was a boyhood supporter. We definitely expect more from them in how they treat the club and fans, I guess. We all knew Broony wasn't one of us. He also is a cup winning hero.

When players leave its always about how they leave...for every McGinn there's a player who has downed tools, bad mouthed or disrespected the club or fans. For every O'connor there's a Murray. One left a significant donation to the club and made the club decent money...the other flicked the fingers in every sense.

I can't wait to see Marvin, Holty and Keats tomorrow amongst others. There's probably only one I'm not fussed about (and I'll not be alone). 😆

B.H.F.C

14-10-2023, 05:53 PM

There's probably only one I'm not fussed about (and I'll not be alone). 😆

Brian McLean?

Donegal Hibby

14-10-2023, 08:59 PM

No comparison between Brown and Thompson imo . One would have walked over broken glass to join is new club!!!

MWHIBBIES

14-10-2023, 09:12 PM

No comparison between Brown and Thompson imo . One would have walked over broken glass to join is new club!!!

Both of them would have.

Donegal Hibby

14-10-2023, 09:16 PM

Both of them would have.

Both were always going to leave . Brown didn't make half as much fuzz about it though . Think he even scored for us against Celtic in his last game too .

3pm

14-10-2023, 09:37 PM

Both were always going to leave . Brown didn't make half as much fuzz about it though . Think he even scored for us against Celtic in his last game too .

But handed in a transfer request. The other played for nothing.

MWHIBBIES

14-10-2023, 09:47 PM

Both were always going to leave . Brown didn't make half as much fuzz about it though . Think he even scored for us against Celtic in his last game too .

Brown didnt make a public fuss. Gave that daft interview after ****ing about behind the scenes, though. Aye, superb. Scored in a dead rubber. Wish he'd done it in the Dunfermline semi.

Thomson is no angel, but he said sorry and played for free. Only difference is one joined the Huns who are more hated. That's it.

Donegal Hibby

14-10-2023, 10:19 PM

Brown didnt make a public fuss. Gave that daft interview after ****ing about behind the scenes, though. Aye, superb. Scored in a dead rubber. Wish he'd done it in the Dunfermline semi.

Thomson is no angel, but he said sorry and played for free. Only difference is one joined the Huns who are more hated. That's it.

Thompson playing for free I suppose had nothing to do with him not playing much due to injuries and not having a club at the time to maybe ? . Scott Brown still scored in that game even though we all knew that's were he was going, always gave 100% did Scott Brown . Your right about him being no angel btw , comes across as a total Hun now .

MWHIBBIES

15-10-2023, 06:44 AM

Thompson playing for free I suppose had nothing to do with him not playing much due to injuries and not having a club at the time to maybe ? . Scott Brown still scored in that game even though we all knew that's were he was going, always gave 100% did Scott Brown . Your right about him being no angel btw , comes across as a total Hun now .

Unlike brown of course who clearly hates Celtic. Yeah right.

Thomson always gave his all for Hibs too. Hibs fans dislike the Rangers one more than the Celtic one. There's nothing more to it.

Broken Gnome

15-10-2023, 06:59 AM

Brown didnt make a public fuss. Gave that daft interview after ****ing about behind the scenes, though. Aye, superb. Scored in a dead rubber. Wish he'd done it in the Dunfermline semi.

Thomson is no angel, but he said sorry and played for free. Only difference is one joined the Huns who are more hated. That's it.

Scott Brown was outstanding in that Dunfermline replay to be fair, did everything but score.

The Rangers/Celtic thing is probably true to some extent but it's not as black and white as that You've also got a visual of Brown lifting a trophy with Rob Jones that will be there forever. These things have a lasting effect.

Donegal Hibby

15-10-2023, 09:56 AM

Unlike brown of course who clearly hates Celtic. Yeah right.

Thomson always gave his all for Hibs too. Hibs fans dislike the Rangers one more than the Celtic one. There's nothing more to it.

Brown probably is a Celtic man now after the amount of years he was there , did Scott Brown ever claim to be a Hibs fan either ?.

Thompson's attitude was questioned at Hibs .

There is more to it than that actually. Scott Brown was at rangers too one time as was Murphy , Docherty McGregor , didn't mind Murphy , really wanted to keep Docherty at the time and McGregor is universally liked by the Hibs support.Thomsons disliked more for his " I'd walk over broken Glass " comments and in his efforts to suck up to anything hunish over the years basically because he was meant to be a hibee .

At least you know we're you are with Scott brown , the other ones like a chameleon changing colours when it suits him. There's nothing more to it than that .

easty

15-10-2023, 10:00 AM

Unlike brown of course who clearly hates Celtic. Yeah right.

Thomson always gave his all for Hibs too. Hibs fans dislike the Rangers one more than the Celtic one. There's nothing more to it.

Rangers/Celtc. Dundee/Dundee Utd. Morton/QoTS. Just all teams that aren’t Hibs to me. Nae preference for any of them over the other.

KT was a greeting faced wee rat. Brown wasn’t. KT was a Hibs fan. Brown wasn’t.

There’s where they’re treated differently by me. Couldnae care less where they moved.

AK86

15-10-2023, 10:36 AM

Caldwell did absolutely nothing wrong when he left.

I'm not so sure he was giving us 100% in his last dozen or so games for us. That's why the Hibs fans had a problem with him.

LewysGot2

15-10-2023, 11:25 AM

Thompson playing for free I suppose had nothing to do with him not playing much due to injuries and not having a club at the time to maybe ? . Scott Brown still scored in that game even though we all knew that's were he was going, always gave 100% did Scott Brown . You’re homson right about him being no angel btw , comes across as a total Hun now .

Thomson didn’t play for free - Petrie advised money was handed over as part of an unorthodox arrangement. It might not have been typical wages type scenario but Rod definitely cleared that urban legend up after the event.

Scott has taken his kids to watch Hibs in recent years - seen him in the ground with them minding his own business quietly.

Donegal Hibby

15-10-2023, 12:17 PM

Thomson didn’t play for free - Petrie advised money was handed over as part of an unorthodox arrangement. It might not have been typical wages type scenario but Rod definitely cleared that urban legend up after the event.

Scott has taken his kids to watch Hibs in recent years - seen him in the ground with them minding his own business quietly.

Didn't really know what the circumstances on what I was told about Thomson playing for free though what your saying would make more sense tbh .

Probably suited Thomson just as much coming back to Hibs when he was struggling with his fitness and without a club.

Some player Scott was , I often remember him in the game at Ibrox that sproule got his hattrick in , think he at one point outrun lovenkrands .

J-C

15-10-2023, 01:14 PM

Brown probably is a Celtic man now after the amount of years he was there , did Scott Brown ever claim to be a Hibs fan either ?.

Thompson's attitude was questioned at Hibs .

There is more to it than that actually. Scott Brown was at rangers too one time as was Murphy , Docherty McGregor , didn't mind Murphy , really wanted to keep Docherty at the time and McGregor is universally liked by the Hibs support.Thomsons disliked more for his " I'd walk over broken Glass " comments and in his efforts to suck up to anything hunish over the years basically because he was meant to be a hibee .

At least you know we're you are with Scott brown , the other ones like a chameleon changing colours when it suits him. There's nothing more to it than that .
I always thought Brown was a Rangers fan as a lad.

Argylehibby

15-10-2023, 02:40 PM

I'm not so sure he was giving us 100% in his last dozen or so games for us. That's why the Hibs fans had a problem with him.

Hibs fans booed him from his first touch of the ball after he announced he was leaving for free. Perhaps that’s why he wasn’t giving 100% thereafter. As I said in a previous post on this thread others have done worse and are still given hero status.

BILLYHIBS

15-10-2023, 03:59 PM

Hibs fans booed him from his first touch of the ball after he announced he was leaving for free. Perhaps that’s why he wasn’t giving 100% thereafter. As I said in a previous post on this thread others have done worse and are still given hero status.

Naw can mind thinking ‘Caldwell’s trying’

He was our Captain FFS!

At least he was upfront with us

Drew with Celtic beat Hearts and Killie lost his last three and was booked in every game that we lost

Enjoyed him coming back with the Smellies scoring cupping his ears at the East and ended up on the losing side

Done the dirty on Celtic signed for Wigan without telling Strachan

Was defo trying or maybe I’m getting confused with SJM ? ��

Now he was definitely trying right up to the last kick

Caldwell was booed initially ( Aberdeen) then folk just accepted it and we got on with it and appreciated he was still getting wired in

No way would he down tools for a club that had rescued his career and gave him his big break

Would have been dropped faster than you could say Tony Mowbray and what would that have said about his attitude?

‘ The fans turned against him when he signed a pre-contract agreement with Celtic but I thought that he kept his head up well and did his best for us for the rest of that season’

Pat Stanton’s Hibernian Dream Team

Argylehibby

15-10-2023, 09:56 PM

Naw can mind thinking ‘Caldwell’s trying’

He was our Captain FFS!

At least he was upfront with us

Drew with Celtic beat Hearts and Killie lost his last three and was booked in every game that we lost

Enjoyed him coming back with the Smellies scoring cupping his ears at the East and ended up on the losing side

Done the dirty on Celtic signed for Wigan without telling Strachan

Was defo trying or maybe I’m getting confused with SJM ? ��

Now he was definitely trying right up to the last kick

Caldwell was booed initially ( Aberdeen) then folk just accepted it and we got on with it and appreciated he was still getting wired in

No way would he down tools for a club that had rescued his career and gave him his big break

Would have been dropped faster than you could say Tony Mowbray and what would that have said about his attitude?

‘ The fans turned against him when he signed a pre-contract agreement with Celtic but I thought that he kept his head up well and did his best for us for the rest of that season’

Pat Stanton’s Hibernian Dream Team

I agree he tried and that he's had a raw deal from Hibs fans. He saw reaction Murray got, supposedly because the belief was that he had signed a pre-contract and lied about it, so came clean that he was leaving. His honesty didn't stop some fans giving him a hard time.

B.H.F.C

15-10-2023, 10:02 PM

I agree he tried and that he's had a raw deal from Hibs fans. He saw reaction Murray got, supposedly because the belief was that he had signed a pre-contract and lied about it, so came clean that he was leaving. His honesty didn't stop some fans giving him a hard time.

Murray never helped himself when he m gave the Hibs end the middle finger in his first game against us at Ibrox (sure it was the Sproule game).

Caldwell never helped himself when he set Stevie Crawford up for a goal about 5 minutes in to his first game after the news of his pre contract came out. From memory, he did all right the remainder of that season and was professional. He also then went on to act like a dick when he came back to Easter Road with Celtic, but that’s all pantomime stuff.

BILLYHIBS

16-10-2023, 05:24 AM

I agree he tried and that he's had a raw deal from Hibs fans. He saw reaction Murray got, supposedly because the belief was that he had signed a pre-contract and lied about it, so came clean that he was leaving. His honesty didn't stop some fans giving him a hard time.

My own memory of Caldwell was that I was delighted when we signed him on a permanent deal from Newcastle and solved what might have been a problem position for us and he was a good player though prone to the odd error

He was a total professional but came across as slightly arrogant and might have felt he was too good for us ?

The Aberdeen game when the news broke he made a lot of errors but the fans were on his case

He gave an honest interview with Si Ferry that covered his time with Hibs and he came across very well

Tony Mowbray being an ex Centre Half would know right away if he had downed tools

Looking on the bright side it gave us six months to identify Rob Jones as a replacement

The rest as they say is history

blackpoolhibs

16-10-2023, 06:36 AM

Murray never helped himself when he m gave the Hibs end the middle finger in his first game against us at Ibrox (sure it was the Sproule game).

Caldwell never helped himself when he set Stevie Crawford up for a goal about 5 minutes in to his first game after the news of his pre contract came out. From memory, he did all right the remainder of that season and was professional. He also then went on to act like a dick when he came back to Easter Road with Celtic, but that’s all pantomime stuff.

My favorite all time memory of Ihun Murray is him on his erse tangled in the net after Gary O'Connors goal in the cup win at ibrox.:faf:

WeeRussell

16-10-2023, 08:09 AM

I always thought Brown was a Rangers fan as a lad.

I believe that is/was the case!

Since452

17-10-2023, 10:29 AM

Generally, if one of our players leaves to go to Glasgow then they can expect dogs abuse when they return. Even Scott Brown, who lifted a trophy and made us a fortune was the pantomime villain whenever he returned to Easter Road.

Mick O'Rourke

18-10-2023, 03:06 PM

In January 1971 ,the tom tom drums and pub gossip sounded round the city (no internet /social media then)in anticipation and also surprise of a legendary homecoming of the original "Super Joe"
Near 25.000 its said (there was more on the terraces that day) turned up at the Holy Ground v Aberdeen to welcome back The Baker Boy.
Guiseppe was home ! After a 10 year absence.
And what an incredible afternoon it was... the roars from the terracing woke up the birds and hatched eggs on the Bass Rock !!

https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2014/02/hibernian-2-1-aberdeen-16-january-1971/#:~:text=Easter%20Road%20erupted%20in%20a,with%20a %20sensational%20diving%20header.

Joe later recalled the day saying:
“It was an incredibly emotional reunion.
The reception I got when I ran onto the pitch made me realise just what I had been missing all these years.”

Joe Baker (RIP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFR_ebmDv1o

A true legend and goal master of Hibernian Football Club
When he left us "Our hearts were broken"

lucky

19-10-2023, 09:46 AM

Mick O'Rourke

19-10-2023, 12:16 PM

I always thought Brown was a Rangers fan as a lad.

He was in name only.
He would not have seen them much surely, being that he was raised in Fife and of course playing fitba every weekend for school and maybe youth club side on the Sunday.
He also went to Hibs very early in his teenage years.
We met him and Jay Sheilds back when they were youth players and came to help at a Hibs Kids Summer camp at Milton Road Campus .
At the end of the training and a wee game there was juice and a wee chat about the training and a Q&A
One wee laddie asked him "what team did you support when you were "wee! :greengrin
and Scott with a blush said Raith Rovers !

Anyway..
The laddie replied "naw naw ,ma dad says yer a hun "
The whole place cracked up.
Gavin Gillies who oversaw and coached the laddies, didnt know where to look .

Am sure his time at Hibs ,who helped make him good enough to gain the club a big transfer fee and a dream move for any young laddie to Celtic changed his mindset
Having a wonderful,fruitful career at both Hibernian and the Glasgow Greens, am sure knocked out any red white and blue out his head !!

Centre Hawf

19-10-2023, 12:27 PM

Centre Hawf

19-10-2023, 12:32 PM

I always thought Brown was a Rangers fan as a lad.

I think he was, but you'd be hard pressed to get anything positive about Rangers out him these days I believe.

To be honest I think it's sometimes a bit of an over exaggerated thing about saying someone was a fan of a certain team as a laddie, usually it's just the family ties as most players who make it professional have probably been playing their own games on Saturdays from a young age and unlikely to have grown up watching said team other than a few occasions.

Mick O'Rourke

19-10-2023, 12:59 PM

I loved Kevin Thomson when he broke through at Hibs. Great player, through the youth system, Hibs fan. It's what we want to see.

Then he turned into a wee hun bitch.

He made his bed, and now he can sleep in it...probably under his sevco duvet cover, with a poster of Tav on his wall.

Well during the last 2or3 years my grandson has met and chatted with Kevin many times as both their sons play sunday youth football.
My grandson says Kevin and his sons are Hibs supporters .
Sevco fans know that, too !!
Sevco pay a few bills for Kevin .Its a job !! I know many hibby's dont like that aspect of Kevins working life.
His bank account wont mind !

Maybe Cliff can get him on board at Hibs TV !!

He's here!

20-10-2023, 10:25 PM

I always thought Brown was a Rangers fan as a lad.

I remember him being interviewed and saying he could see Jim Baxter's statue from his bedroom window when he was growing up in Hill of Beath. His grandad was a pal of Baxter's and gave Scott signed pics of him playing for Rangers which he had on his wall.

A Hi-Bee

21-10-2023, 09:52 AM

They are the enemy, for 90mins or extra time, then just people after that.
:greengrin

BILLYHIBS

21-10-2023, 10:04 AM

I remember him being interviewed and saying he could see Jim Baxter's statue from his bedroom window when he was growing up in Hill of Beath. His grandad was a pal of Baxter's and gave Scott signed pics of him playing for Rangers which he had on his wall.
Yes but no but Slim Jim was a Hibby :greengrin