Injury time - non old firm clubs

[McGruber]

Is this set as a standard 3 mins for games not involving the old firm? Blew right on 45 first half and 3 mins never even covered the amount of subs. Dundee started slowing the game down about 65 mins onwards. Of course, looked like we could have played all night and not scored but guaranteed if that is one of the old firm would have been 6 mins minimum - and how many times do they score in that time.

[weecounty hibby]

Yeah, was a disgrace how that was only 3 mins. Subs and bookings and injuries and time wasting should have been minimum 8

[S4uzee]

That was an utter disgrace today. At least 30-40 secs per goal kick and at one point in the second half almost a minute to take a throw in

[DaveF]

Rudden took over a minute to haul his arse off the park. 3mins was a joke.

[K-Zazu]

If that was Dundee playing at Ibrox or parkhead about 8 mins would have been added

[Chorley Hibee]

If that was Dundee playing at Ibrox or parkhead about 8 mins would have been added

Guaranteed.

The game is rigged.

[HIBS NUTS]

pathetic that it was 3 minutes .
Beaton didn’t have a terrible game, but was foul on Youan a penalty

[Walkerbaws]

Could’ve played on all night and it wouldn’t have made a difference in the outcome

[Carheenlea]

Perhaps there’s a Sash Bash on at The Crown Bar in Bellshill and Beaton wasn’t wanting to hang about too long.

[percy veer]

Steven mclean up to his usual today just the 13mins injury time at ibrox when thry were trailing

[percy veer]

Tbf I didn't think dundee were that bad today , would have been worse if they took the lead

[basehibby]

In the context of the modern game, the match officials basically cheated today. 3 minutes my arse - Dundee were time wasting throughout and it's astonishing to see the officials turn a blind eye in such a shameless and blatant fashion. I won't wait up for any comment on Sportscene!

[JimBHibees]

Beaton is such a clown. Arrogant toss. No real bad decisions however the time wasting he allows is ridiculous. Rudden was down twice loads of subs. Goalie wasted loads of time at every goal kick. Unacceptable to be honest should have been minimum five mins. There was a game at Tynecastle Beaton had where he gave them 11 mins.

[Partyraiser]

Is this set as a standard 3 mins for games not involving the old firm? Blew right on 45 first half and 3 mins never even covered the amount of subs. Dundee started slowing the game down about 65 mins onwards. Of course, looked like we could have played all night and not scored but guaranteed if that is one of the old firm would have been 6 mins minimum - and how many times do they score in that time.

It started a lot sooner than 65mins. Pretending to have their CBS in the box so they could take it short was a time wasting technique and that started from their 1st goal kick

[Broken Gnome]

Four sub intervals, Newell's head knock, Rudden being down all the time, the Kerr/Obita ruck...

Unreal that was only three minutes. I know there's the could have played all day without scoring element, but basically went from expecting to have one more chance to being unlikely to get our our half again.

[Cat Stanton]

Didn't think it was a big issue. I've seen lots, lots worse.

To be honest I've quite enjoyed the relative lack of VAR involvement in the last few games, and the resulting "normal" length of injury time.

People seem to be getting upset about nothing. We played well today, and have played well since the new manager came in. It's night and day compared to Johnson. Let's enjoy it, and not get too worked up about small beer issues.

[babahibs]

Corruption, simple.

[JohnM1875]

Didn't think it was a big issue. I've seen lots, lots worse.

To be honest I've quite enjoyed the relative lack of VAR involvement in the last few games, and the resulting "normal" length of injury time.

People seem to be getting upset about nothing. We played well today, and have played well since the new manager came in. It's night and day compared to Johnson. Let's enjoy it, and not get too worked up about small beer issues.

Same, I was all for VAR being introduced but have to admit I hate it now. I said to my mate at the game I'm not even sure we're still using it up here any more. Never see it on the screens or that and game seems to flow as it used to.

Saying that, Kerr was a lucky boy to start on after that tackle on Obita. Maybe we actually aren't using it.

[The Green Sea]

Scottish refs are terrible. Are they biased, I’m not convinced. Inept definitely but biased who knows. Interestingly, I had a Hun taxi driver recently and he was up in arms about Gollum describing him as a known Roman Catholic. I was sitting there thinking WTF. So maybe all football fans think refs are biased.

[truehibernian]

Scottish refs are terrible. Are they biased, I’m not convinced. Inept definitely but biased who knows. Interestingly, I had a Hun taxi driver recently and he was up in arms about Gollum describing him as a known Roman Catholic. I was sitting there thinking WTF. So maybe all football fans think refs are biased.

I think there is undoubtedly unconscious bias. I spoke to a ref who was 4th official a few seasons ago at Tynecastle- great guy, English born, really knowledgeable and loved Scottish football - but really disliked Hearts 😂 they lost that day 😛👍

[brianmc]

Scottish refs are terrible. Are they biased, I’m not convinced. Inept definitely but biased who knows. Interestingly, I had a Hun taxi driver recently and he was up in arms about Gollum describing him as a known Roman Catholic. I was sitting there thinking WTF. So maybe all football fans think refs are biased.

Collum is an R.E. teacher at a Catholic high school - so it's hardly surprising the huns have 'issues' with him.

[Helensburghhibs]

Beaton reminded me of an under 14 ref (no disrespect to these guys meant) but he hardly moved out the centre circle. Giving freeekicks drom 40 yards away. Amateur season

[gaz1875]

I was expecting 5 minutes minimum, couldn't believe it was only 3.

[JoeT_WasTheBest]

And he didn’t actually even play all of the 3 minutes, he blew with 5 seconds to go. That was even though they wasted time during the 3 minutes added on.

Worst ref in Scotland.

[A Hi-Bee]

In the context of the modern game, the match officials basically cheated today. 3 minutes my arse - Dundee were time wasting throughout and it's astonishing to see the officials turn a blind eye in such a shameless and blatant fashion. I won't wait up for any comment on Sportscene!

it was just brother Beaton wi his mate Walsh in the var caravan, earning a crust, going through the motions to get the cash. nothing new.

[hibee1875]

it was just brother Beaton wi his mate Walsh in the var caravan, earning a crust, going through the motions to get the cash. nothing new.

The time they took to line up the two free kicks they got by the dugout wasted about 2mins.

[JimBHibees]

I was expecting 5 minutes minimum, couldn't believe it was only 3.

Said same at game min 5 mins

[Victor]

I may be naive, but should the referee/fourth official not be asked to explain, where they got 3 minutes from? It was so glaringly obvious that there should have been more than 3 minutes added. Are they not meant to be following guidelines, or is that something we stupid fans just made up?

[Lago]

Could’ve played on all night and it wouldn’t have made a difference in the outcome
That's irrelevant, the issue is the true amount of injury time which should have been allowed.

[Nicho87]

Every English game I seem to see on tv there’s usually 4/5 minimum with some games getting 8-10

Where on earth no minutes added in first half and only three for second half was criminal.

[Criswell]

Who actually decides how much time is added on? Is it the Referee or the off-field officials?

[matty_f]

Who actually decides how much time is added on? Is it the Referee or the off-field officials?

I believe it’s the referee who communicates to the 4th official how much time is to be added.

The 3 minutes today was a joke. I genuinely don’t know what you put it down to. Celtic scored their winner in the seventh or eighth minute of injury time. Rangers were still playing by the time I’d got from my seat in the back of the West Upper, got into my car, waited for the road to open, and driven to the bottom of the Royal Mile.

[Donegal Hibby]

If it had been sevco yesterday with Dundee in exactly the same circumstances as us with Beaton and Walsh there would have been a lot more injury time added on than we got though I'm convinced they'd have gave a penalty for a similar challenge that Youan got in the box anyhow.

The notion that Beaton and Walsh weren't going to be bad because it was only Dundee we were playing is bonkers. Both are Huns and are anti Hibs . We rarely get decision's going in our favour with either never mind both .

I'm more annoyed with our club for just accepting it and letting it happen again and again . Both Walsh and Beaton should be nowhere near Hibs games imo .

[McGruber]

Could’ve played on all night and it wouldn’t have made a difference in the outcome

Understand the sentiment, did feel that way. Watched the Spurs v Liverpool game waiting on Spurs for coupon playing 9 men and that felt the same. If full time was blown there at 93 it's a 1-1 draw and Spurs fans saying they could have played all night. You never know, we were creating chances at a fair rate.
More to the point though if we would have scored or not is why one rule for us and one for old firm if it isn't flat out cheating

[One Day]

If that was Dundee playing at Ibrox or parkhead about 8 mins would have been added

Exactly what i said at the time.

[Joe6-2]

Steven mclean up to his usual today just the 13mins injury time at ibrox when thry were trailing

Absolute f****** scandal

[Pretty Boy]

3 minutes was a farce.

There were 4 separate occasions when subs were made. They had 2 players down with cramp, we had Newell down for a short spell, breaks in play for a couple of bookeings and there was 1 minutes 49 seconds whilst the Kerr/Obita situation sorted itself out (see below how I know that)

I'm a bit sad at games and use the stopwatch on my phone to time stoppages in the game. I had 5 minutes 26 seconds yesterday. I'm not saying I'm spot on but I think my count is more realistic than what we actually got.

[weecounty hibby]

3 minutes was a farce.

There were 4 separate occasions when subs were made. They had 2 players down with cramp, we had Newell down for a short spell, breaks in play for a couple of bookeings and there was 1 minutes 49 seconds whilst the Kerr/Obita situation sorted itself out (see below how I know that)

I'm a bit sad at games and use the stopwatch on my phone to time stoppages in the game. I had 5 minutes 26 seconds yesterday. I'm not saying I'm spot on but I think my count is more realistic than what we actually got.
Loving the geekism of using your watch!! I use the timer on the big screens and like you i had it at over 5 mins. Beaton teally is a very very poor ref and added to that i do firmly believe he just doesnt like Hibs

[basehibby]

Scottish refs are terrible. Are they biased, I’m not convinced. Inept definitely but biased who knows. Interestingly, I had a Hun taxi driver recently and he was up in arms about Gollum describing him as a known Roman Catholic. I was sitting there thinking WTF. So maybe all football fans think refs are biased.

Bias is a different thing to corruption - which involves money changing hands and is a criminal offence.

[matty_f]

Understand the sentiment, did feel that way. Watched the Spurs v Liverpool game waiting on Spurs for coupon playing 9 men and that felt the same. If full time was blown there at 93 it's a 1-1 draw and Spurs fans saying they could have played all night. You never know, we were creating chances at a fair rate.
More to the point though if we would have scored or not is why one rule for us and one for old firm if it isn't flat out cheating

That’s a cracking point.

[JimBHibees]

Loving the geekism of using your watch!! I use the timer on the big screens and like you i had it at over 5 mins. Beaton teally is a very very poor ref and added to that i do firmly believe he just doesnt like Hibs

Clearly hates us for some hunknown reason

[Malonga's Cat]

3 mins was a laughable amount but not surprising. The amount of time wasting in Scottish football is really frustrating. Goal kicks, unnecessary treatment and throws in are particularly frustrating. I know we do it too at times but really seems rife from visiting teams at Easter Road. Also not surprising to hear that The Rangers had 13 minutes and Celtic clearly got the time they needed for their winner at Fir Park.

[JimBHibees]

Bias is a different thing to corruption - which involves money changing hands and is a criminal offence.

Would you genuinely rule it out given the level of financial wrong doing in the game by in particular two of our biggest clubs and some very shady characters owning and being in boardrooms.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Would love the official stats on total added on time in games involving the old firm and the games not involving them. Would be quite interesting viewing.

[Victor]

Would you genuinely rule it out given the level of financial wrong doing in the game by in particular two of our biggest clubs and some very shady characters owning and being in boardrooms.

Doesn’t have to be money. Referees could be doing it for influence or just to impress other like minded people. There is definitely an air of prejudice about their dealings with Hibs, whether that’s down to sectarianism, dislike of the Capital clubs, or just that they are Old Firm supporters. It would be almost impossible to prove. It’s not being paranoid to think that we are treated differently.

[Onion]

Could’ve played on all night and it wouldn’t have made a difference in the outcome

Doesn't excuse Beaton and the SFA treating this club like crap - should have been 6-8 mins.

[flash]

Could’ve played on all night and it wouldn’t have made a difference in the outcome

Pretty sure there's a match thread for inane drivel like this.

Beaton has been at it for years.

Not necessarily massive errors but, as someone else said, referees matches like ours with complete indifference barely leaving the semi circle. We predicted either 5 or 6 minutes to be added but weren't remotely surprised he came up with 3.

No doubt he just couldn't be ersed doing any more than that.

[NAE NOOKIE]

In reality the only issue a ref should have with added on time is the interpretation of how much to add on for perceived time wasting, the rest should simply be set rules EG 30 seconds per sub and stopping his watch whenever he stops or holds up play for an on field incident.

You could even have a rule that if he books a player for time wasting he automatically adds on two minutes.

[dchibs]

Would love the official stats on total added on time in games involving the old firm and the games not involving them. Would be quite interesting viewing.
They would only need the extra time when they are drawing or getting beat,but it is obvious they get it when required depending what side the officials are for.