Youan

[Broken Gnome]

Just me that thought he was really good last night?

Can only think of two occasions he overdid it, and one of those he bust a gut to get back, won possession then Jeggo and we were 2-1 within 20 seconds. Linked well, ran at his men when he should have done, got his goal, helped us retain possession when we were well on top.

Definitely seemed a new side to him along with all the trickery. Almost like he'd been, dare I say it, coached...

[greenlex]

Just me that thought he was really good last night?

Can only think of two occasions he overdid it, and one of those he bust a gut to get back, won possession then Jeggo and we were 2-1 within 20 seconds. Linked well, ran at his men when he should have done, got his goal, helped us retain possession when we were well on top.

Definitely seemed a new side to him along with all the trickery. Almost like he'd been, dare I say it, coached...
I think having a French speaking member on the coaching team allied to actually knowing what they are trying to achieve with him will do him the world of good. Early days but it looks to be bearing fruit.

[Langlee Hibs]

Just me that thought he was really good last night?

Can only think of two occasions he overdid it, and one of those he bust a gut to get back, won possession then Jeggo and we were 2-1 within 20 seconds. Linked well, ran at his men when he should have done, got his goal, helped us retain possession when we were well on top.

Definitely seemed a new side to him along with all the trickery. Almost like he'd been, dare I say it, coached...

Certainly got himself involved. Bichrist he's frustrating at times though!

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

The big man will have more threads on the go than a Chinese sweatshop shortly. Done well last night though.


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[wookie70]

I am usually very critical in terms of his defensive effort. Positionally he could maybe have done a bit better a couple of times but I thought his work rate was excellent last night and his reaction when he did lose the ball was spot on. He will be an excellent player if he can be decent when we don't have the ball and he has no excuses as he is very strong, fit and mobile

[JimBHibees]

I am usually very critical in terms of his defensive effort. Positionally he could maybe have done a bit better a couple of times but I thought his work rate was excellent last night and his reaction when he did lose the ball was spot on. He will be an excellent player if he can be decent when we don't have the ball and he has no excuses as he is very strong, fit and mobile

He defended poorly for their first goal dropped Strain who crossed in.

[Bobby's Cinema]

Just me that thought he was really good last night?

Can only think of two occasions he overdid it, and one of those he bust a gut to get back, won possession then Jeggo and we were 2-1 within 20 seconds. Linked well, ran at his men when he should have done, got his goal, helped us retain possession when we were well on top.

Definitely seemed a new side to him along with all the trickery. Almost like he'd been, dare I say it, coached...
Glad to hear that - what a player we will have on our hands if he can improve his decision making and release the ball a bit quicker at times.

[Greenbeard]

Didn't think it was his best game but still positive overall. Got caught dithering on the ball a couple of times, and too often in the first half Miller got the ball in space out wide right but cos there was no movement or anticipation from a static Youan, he just had to dink it back to Fish. Much better in the 2nd half from him (and Boyle) once they came a little bit deeper to receive a pass.

[7Hero]

Certainly got himself involved. Bichrist he's frustrating at times though!

Couldn't agree more, if he can be more consistent with his possession and passing he'd be some player .

[dp00]

Couldn't agree more, if he can be more consistent with his possession and passing he'd be some player .

And would defo not be at hibs


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[7Hero]

Yes of course but he is at Hibs right now .

[California-Hibs]

Scored another goal, put himself about working hard for the team, carried us up the pitch as he does. The guys brilliant!

[Hibeewilly]

Scored another goal, put himself about working hard for the team, carried us up the pitch as he does. The guys brilliant!
Couldn't agree more......terrific player and as he continues to learn from the coaches he will get even better. That's when he'll move onto better things of course

[Paul1642]

He defiantly falls into the category that if he wasn’t so inconsistent we wouldn’t have been able to sign him in the first place. Gotta take the good with the bad and if nothing else he tries to things happen regardless if things are going his / our way or not, and when it pays if it’s pretty great at times.

[SlickShoes]

Legend, even when things arent going well for him, he keeps going, keeps trying and gets into dangerous positions.

I'll enjoy watching him while he's a Hibs player, glad we have people like him in our team.

[Johnny_Leith]

Love him, never hides, works hard, pace and trickery with an eye for goal.

[AugustaHibs]

Well done for the two goals, but I’m not sure where the ‘works hard’ comes from?

Anything but at their second goal.

That being said, delighted for him, 2 great finishes but he needs to not switch off defensively.

[California-Hibs]

I've loved the guy from day one. He's outstanding and got it right up them today!

[Northernhibee]

Very poor for two thirds of the game, then showed what he can also do and was phenomenal to get us back into it. An utter enigma.

If we can get him so he’s even a bit more consistent and he’ll be outstanding.

[makaveli1875]

Delighted for him . Hopefully he kicks on from this and goes on a run

[Hibs4185]

The most bipolar player I’ve ever seen for Hibs.

Absolute garbage for 40 mins then switched to the left side 5 mins before half time and you could see he was more comfortable.

Second half 50/50 but perseveres and scores two goals.

God knows what he could be like with the right coaching and persistence

[jacomo]

The most bipolar player I’ve ever seen for Hibs.

Absolute garbage for 40 mins then switched to the left side 5 mins before half time and you could see he was more comfortable.

Second half 50/50 but perseveres and scores two goals.

God knows what he could be like with the right coaching and persistence



Think Monty’s the man, but the inverted winger stuff is nonsense imo. Youan on the left, Boyle on the right for me.

[tonyrougier123]

Can see some big offers for him coming. Not everything he does comes off,but he was the difference today. Skill,pace can beat his man terrific finisher. Almost the full package. Needs an hour to warm up some times. But what a guy!

[sleeping giant]

I was for hooking him at half time 😄

[Vault Boy]

Game changer. The most valuable players around.

[The Harp Awakes]

Love him even though he can be frustrating at times. Always likely to pruduce something unexpected and special.

[NC1875]

Can see some big offers for him coming. Not everything he does comes off,but he was the difference today. Skill,pace can beat his man terrific finisher. Almost the full package. Needs an hour to warm up some times. But what a guy!

Not based on today there won’t be. He was garbage even though he scored twice. Shat himself in the tackle resulting in Fish being booked and had a part to play in both Hearts goals. Needs to do more defensively if we’re playing with 2 strikers.

[Mick O'Rourke]

I was for hooking him at half time 😄

You were not alone on here and at the ground. But...good job he wasn't.eh !!

Sacre Bleu ! Elie got two !

[MWHIBBIES]

Think Monty’s the man, but the inverted winger stuff is nonsense imo. Youan on the left, Boyle on the right for me.

They're both right footed. Either way one is inverted.

[Hibees1973]

Youan encapsulates Hibs just now.

Can be dire and dispiriting at times. But can deliver and gives hope for better to come.

[A Hi-Bee]

I was for hooking him at half time 😄

Same but what do I know, amazing turn around, the jumbos will be spewing they once again thought they had it in the bag, but the bag had a hole in it. ha,ha hertz.
:flag::flag:

[neil7908]

If he can be coached to work harder and be more consistent he's a £10m player

[tonyrougier123]

If he can be coached to work harder and be more consistent he's a £10m player

He’s half way there.

[Lancs Harp]

He has a lot of talent. Very up and down as we all know but while hes on the pitch we have a potential match winner. Can we harness that talent? Who knows, he'll probably be off in a flash if we can.

[Pretty Boy]

After their 2nd goal I would have subbed him there and then (I might have said). Then from nowhere he fires in 2 in a minute.

Annoyingly his cross for Boyle on the break was the one time he should have delayed a second or 2 and didn't, he had the time to and hit it just a fraction early.

He is what he is. Infinitely frustrating but those wee moments of magic means he pretty much has to play every week.

[scoopyboy]

After their 2nd goal I would have subbed him there and then (I might have said). Then from nowhere he fires in 2 in a minute.

Annoyingly his cross for Boyle on the break was the one time he should have delayed a second or 2 and didn't, he had the time to and hit it just a fraction early.

He is what he is. Infinitely frustrating but those wee moments of magic means he pretty much has to play every week.

It's easy to be wise after the event but if we're struggling in a game then Youan is one of the last players I would be taking off.

He's sensationally fast and although it doesn't always come off for him defenders must hate playing against him.

When we score goals he is either getting them himself or making them, we don't get a lot of that type at Hibs.

No doubt he can be infuriating but I think he's worth persisting with.

[greenlex]

It's easy to be wise after the event but if we're struggling in a game then Youan is one of the last players I would be taking off.

He's sensationally fast and although it doesn't always come off for him defenders must hate playing against him.

When we score goals he is either getting them himself or making them, we don't get a lot of that type at Hibs.

No doubt he can be infuriating but I think he's worth persisting with.
id have him on the bench to come on every week.

[Skol]

Frustrating at times but always a danger and worth having on the park as was proven today

[Dashing Bob S]

Basically a superstar.

[Unseen work]

Youan was poor for the second goal, he seemed a bit unsure on what to do I.e press or not.

But what was really poor was that no one went out to support youan, I think the next closest was Miller?

At juvenile you’re told if it’s a short corner or it goes back out to the corner taker to get 2 men out to him

[flash]

I love him. He is the kind of player that makes me want to watch football.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I love him. He is the kind of player that makes me want to watch football.

This in spades.:flag:

The number of times I hear he is "lazy" or a "useless c", those who make these comments clearly know hee-haw

[Hibs90]

He is mega frustrating to watch at times but when he's at it he's unplayable.

[SHODAN]

I love Youan.

[B.H.F.C]

This in spades.:flag:

The number of times I hear he is "lazy" or a "useless c", those who make these comments clearly know hee-haw

I always stick up for him but I thought he was absolutely diabolical for the first hour and showed a lack of desire to defend for their two goals.

Delighted it didn’t happen but if he’d been hooked it would have been deserved at the hour mark.

[7Hero]

This in spades.:flag:

The number of times I hear he is "lazy" or a "useless c", those who make these comments clearly know hee-haw

Probably know more than you

[SHODAN]

Last three times we got something over there one of our players scored a double. When's the hat-trick coming? :wink:

[Pretty Boy]

"The manager was very angry with me at half-time. He talked to me straight. He told me I had 10 minutes, otherwise I’d get brought off."

From the man himself.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Probably know more than you

Aye those shouting he was a useless C, certainly correct after his two goals:rolleyes:

[Not In The Know]

"The manager was very angry with me at half-time. He talked to me straight. He told me I had 10 minutes, otherwise I’d get brought off."

From the man himself.

love this

[LaMotta]

I love him. He is the kind of player that makes me want to watch football.


This in spades.:flag:

The number of times I hear he is "lazy" or a "useless c", those who make these comments clearly know hee-haw


I love Youan.


"The manager was very angry with me at half-time. He talked to me straight. He told me I had 10 minutes, otherwise I’d get brought off."

From the man himself.

He was so bad, everyone can see that but also its not a shock. He has a pretty poor footballing brain. But, he has the rare ability to do something out of nothing, so you have to persist with him and play him for the full 90 always. So despite being so bad, he was also the best player on the pitch.

[Carheenlea]

I’m not sure at times whether I like the old Youan who tried to do too much or the more coached team player version.

Find it hard to dislike either entity!

One of my favourite all time Hibs players.

[Carheenlea]

So despite being so bad, he was also the best player on the pitch.

Hibs AF

[LaMotta]

Hibs AF

:hilarious

[SHODAN]

Hibs AF

Lmao

[Glory Lurker]

"The manager was very angry with me at half-time. He talked to me straight. He told me I had 10 minutes, otherwise I’d get brought off."

From the man himself.

Yet he let him stay on for longer than that. You'll no get the players' respect with false threats, Nick. Should have been off long before he scored.

Petrie must go.

[Hibees1973]

"The manager was very angry with me at half-time. He talked to me straight. He told me I had 10 minutes, otherwise I’d get brought off."

From the man himself.

Indeed.

Johnson would have probably said 'I need you to show more game intelligence and change your arrow colour from red to yellow'.

Montgomery grows on me every week.

Gives me optimism Youan and Hibs will improve with him in charge.

[Onion]

"The manager was very angry with me at half-time. He talked to me straight. He told me I had 10 minutes, otherwise I’d get brought off."

From the man himself.

Good management. Youan's frustrating. Lazy, crap and selfish one moment, brilliant and effective the next. As others have said, if he wasn't flawed he'd not be anywhere near Hibs so we just have to go with it. In fact. Youan is Hibs all wrapped up in a single player - never quite know what you're going to get. .

[Keepthefaith]

kinda felt for him at the end of the game - he's got us a draw with 2 well taken goals and we don't have a song for him! fans were singing super Joe when they came over - did wonder whether moan might have been a tad pissed off he didn't get specific praise.

do we not have a song for him yet??

[Not In The Know]

Indeed.

Johnson would have probably said 'I need you to show more game intelligence and change your arrow colour from red to yellow'.

Montgomery grows on me every week.

Gives me optimism Youan and Hibs will improve with him in charge.

post of the week!

[ZitellZeTime]

I understand at times he can be frustrating, like last week even though he played some good balls, there were times he sprinted away and he should have just took a shot instead of stalling letting defence get back and try play low cut back.

Then there are games like St Mirren near end of season and this season, Luzern 2-2 game and plenty others. Remember Ivan Sproule, Even Martin Boyle had to be coached when they first joined. He's from a complete different country and being under LJ that was a great first season and will only get better under a better manager and having more confidence to go for it and not be scared to make a mistake if it doesn't come off.

If he didn't have flaws or was a rough diamond he wouldn't be anywhere near us, yet the **** near the famous 5 side of the east where I was sitting last week as I has my kid with me was almost like he was calling him ***** before a whistle was even blown. All game he heckled him as loud constantly every time he was about to even touch the ball was nippy af. Tried to sound like some mental **** then would shout loud af OHH MY GAAWDD.

Hope he sees this today and shuts his trap. Probably not though as he's done similar many times. But aye remember sproule was just fast really and boyle was slightly better but nothing like he was after being coached correctly. Youan can be the same and will probably make us a good bit of money at some point.

[Unseen work]

I love his self belief and how he does not care if he makes a mistake.

He was so bad in the first half, to the extent he struggled to control the ball.

Most players with a half like that wouldn’t respond how he did. When we went 2-0 down his first thought was to run at them himself.

Defenders will hate to play against him as they know what he is capable of.

Well done Elie, shut a lot up today.

[silverhibee]

I love him. He is the kind of player that makes me want to watch football.

Plenty talent and potential, if he continues the way he is playing he will be away next summer for decent money.

[ekhibee]

One or two people have touched on this, IMO Montgomery is just the right manager to bring the best out of Youan. I also think the best of Youan is virtually unplayable. He has some really incredible skill which clearly needs to be harnessed, and an immaturity which lets him drop out of games and underperform, but while he's here you can only compare him with Jekyll and Hyde. He has the potential to go a lot further in the game, but right now he's with the right coach and the right team.

[Criswell]

A maverick of a player. Just hope he can keep improving as a player as he undoubtably has talent, just needs to turn it into consistency. Scoring two goals at Tynecastle is a nice start.

[007]

14 goals in his last 30 games.

[matty_f]

This in spades.:flag:

The number of times I hear he is "lazy" or a "useless c", those who make these comments clearly know hee-haw

Spot on.

[matty_f]

I love him. He is the kind of player that makes me want to watch football.

:agree:

[Donegal Hibby]

Two goals against the jambo's even hertz have finally realised a quality player by putting him in one of there luxurious chairs in this interview !
https://youtu.be/rORGfbpsGJc?si=M1cpYLwzDSf9HLgU

[B.H.F.C]

Boy we were speaking to after the game summed him up perfectly. He was our worst and best player all in the same game.

[The Spaceman]

He’s a match-winner (on in this case, saver). Very lucky to have him at Hibs and love watching him play.

[Liam89]

We’ll all miss him immensely when he’s gone. When he’s on it he’s above anyone else I’ve seen in this league.

Enjoy him whilst he’s here!

[Musselbound]

14 goals in his last 30 games.

Yeah consistently good stats in terms of goals and assists for about a year now. Turns up in big games... I'm not sure why people are so frustrated by him. Wide players or wingers can often drop out of games. Even the best ones. I'm not sure what some people are expecting tbh.

[MWHIBBIES]

Yeah consistently good stats in terms of goals and assists for about a year now. Turns up in big games... I'm not sure why people are so frustrated by him. Wide players or wingers can often drop out of games. Even the best ones. I'm not sure what some people are expecting tbh.

While I agree, there is very little excuse for his first touch, that certainly needs work.

[Bishop Hibee]

14 goals in his last 30 games.

Some stat for a wide player. Let’s enjoy him while he’s here.

[JimBHibees]

14 goals in his last 30 games.

Incredible stat that.

[Wilson]

We’ll all miss him immensely when he’s gone. When he’s on it he’s above anyone else I’ve seen in this league.

Enjoy him whilst he’s here!

Love him. He strokes the ball into the net like its the easiest thing in tho world. Pas de probleme.

If only he made the rest of the game look so easy!

[Carheenlea]

Even “Snipers Dream” himself is a big fan.

https://i.postimg.cc/BQKp5cBy/IMG-0899.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Lnmj2P7B)

[SHODAN]

If Youan was able to turn it on like that for us for the full 90 mins every game he wouldn't be here.

He's a great talent.

[wookie70]

Yeah consistently good stats in terms of goals and assists for about a year now. Turns up in big games... I'm not sure why people are so frustrated by him. Wide players or wingers can often drop out of games. Even the best ones. I'm not sure what some people are expecting tbh.

He does seem to get a far harder time than he deserves considering his contribution over the last year. I compare him to Boyle as he was very similar in terms of his decision making and how he worked when we never had teh ball at the same stage in his Hibs career. He then started making better decisions and working much more in defence. If Elie follows the same trajectory, and he is getting there much quicker than Boyle did, then he will be a very useful asset either on teh pitch or in the accounts.
Saying all that his decision making and effort at their second goal shows how far he has to come in terms of teh defensive side of teh game.

[Stanton Spence]

He’s a really talented player as we all can see his proplem seems to be his concentration he just switches off for spells and he loses his positional sense and he takes his eyes off the ball at times but when he’s on his game and switched on he’s got the lot
Hopefully now we look like we’ve got a decent manager and coaches they can get him switched on more often than not

[B.H.F.C]

He does seem to get a far harder time than he deserves considering his contribution over the last year. I compare him to Boyle as he was very similar in terms of his decision making and how he worked when we never had teh ball at the same stage in his Hibs career. He then started making better decisions and working much more in defence. If Elie follows the same trajectory, and he is getting there much quicker than Boyle did, then he will be a very useful asset either on teh pitch or in the accounts.
Saying all that his decision making and effort at their second goal shows how far he has to come in terms of teh defensive side of teh game.

I always stick up for Youan as I think there is an element of having to accept him losing the ball and so on. I thought his effort for the first hour yesterday was abysmal though.

But he’s a player. 6 goals and 5 assists already this season. He got 9 and 9 last year so he’s going to obliterate those numbers.

[southern hibby]

I think he actually did nothing of note in the first half. He does like a good sprint coming forward and a slow relaxed jog going back to our goals. He could have tracked back yesterday but persisted not too.
He scored 2 good goals for us and that I cannot take away from him but I am wondering at times if he’s partly to blame for our goals conceded this season as defenders have to much to do on their own.

Do I think he’s lazy? Certainly do when it comes to tracking back but going forward he has speed to burn.
If I was playing against him I’d be more than happy knowing I can easily push him about as he’s easily pushed of the ball.
Do I think he’s useless? Certainly not but I do think he has got a lot of work to do on his game knowledge and upper body strength.

One other thing I’d add I’m wondering if ( we know he can score ) ihe would make a better striker than a winger. He does the damage through the middle and he tracking back is not his best quality.

Also firmly believe after the comments yesterday about having 10 min left that he has the right management team to get the best out of him.

GGTTH

[brog]

Elie is a real talent and has incredible pace. I guarantee every opposition team will be highlighting him and Boyle as real threats. On the other hand he's raw and can take the wrong option but he's not alone in that.
I do feel for him when people question his defensive ability. Blaming him in any way for their 1st goal is IMO ludicrous. I do understand that our current system requires a defensive shift but I wonder what the likes of Eric Stevenson, Jim Scott, Marinello or even Ivan Sproule would have thought about being required to both attack and defend. People saying Elie is lazy also need to recognise the ground he covers, often without getting the ball.
Finally, I'm a huge fan of NM so far but I wonder if he may become a bit more pragmatic with his 4 4 2. Sadly I dont think Doidge is a regular starter and ALF has a limited shelf life. I can see MB being utilised through the middle with Dylan. That would allow us to put another genuine midfielder in or alternatively a more defensive wide player such as Obita. Back to Elie, I'm a big fan and IMO he's an archetypal Hibs player in the mould of those mentioned above. Long may he flourish!

[SlickShoes]

I think he actually did nothing of note in the first half. He does like a good sprint coming forward and a slow relaxed jog going back to our goals. He could have tracked back yesterday but persisted not too.
He scored 2 good goals for us and that I cannot take away from him but I am wondering at times if he’s partly to blame for our goals conceded this season as defenders have to much to do on their own.

Do I think he’s lazy? Certainly do when it comes to tracking back but going forward he has speed to burn.
If I was playing against him I’d be more than happy knowing I can easily push him about as he’s easily pushed of the ball.
Do I think he’s useless? Certainly not but I do think he has got a lot of work to do on his game knowledge and upper body strength.

One other thing I’d add I’m wondering if ( we know he can score ) ihe would make a better striker than a winger. He does the damage through the middle and he tracking back is not his best quality.

Also firmly believe after the comments yesterday about having 10 min left that he has the right management team to get the best out of him.

GGTTH

I think you don't like him for some reason, to start theorising that he's to blame for our goals conceded this season despite his overall contribution being far and away better than most other players in the squad is insane.

I don't think there is any way he is 'lazy', is he a good defender? nope, but that's not his primary job. Some people are blaming him for the second goal yesterday, in which he came back to pressure lowry but no one came out to help, lowry then moved away from where Elie was and put in a pretty crap cross that Doidge managed to slice into his own net. There's only one person to blame for that, but people are still trying to find a way to put it on Youan.

[supermcginn]

We'll miss him when he's gone, cracking player.

[B.H.F.C]

I think you don't like him for some reason, to start theorising that he's to blame for our goals conceded this season despite his overall contribution being far and away better than most other players in the squad is insane.

I don't think there is any way he is 'lazy', is he a good defender? nope, but that's not his primary job. Some people are blaming him for the second goal yesterday, in which he came back to pressure lowry but no one came out to help, lowry then moved away from where Elie was and put in a pretty crap cross that Doidge managed to slice into his own net. There's only one person to blame for that, but people are still trying to find a way to put it on Youan.

I thought Youan played a big part in the second goal for them. Doidge should kick the ball away but Youan didn’t make a proper effort to get to Lowry. It was half arsed and in keeping with his, and us in general, for the first hour of the game. There were a couple of instances in the first half as well where they just wanted the ball more than him and he put a half hearted challenge in, including in the lead up to the first goal.

The good far outweighs the bad with Youan but I think he can be lazy at times defensively.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I thought Youan played a big part in the second goal for them. Doidge should kick the ball away but Youan didn’t make a proper effort to get to Lowry. It was half arsed and in keeping with his, and us in general, for the first hour of the game. There were a couple of instances in the first half as well where they just wanted the ball more than him and he put a half hearted challenge in, including in the lead up to the first goal.

The good far outweighs the bad with Youan but I think he can be lazy at times defensively.

Thought he was caught in two minds, to either go with expected pass was going, and tracking ball. The ball still should have been cleared, though, which is disappointing

[CapitalGreen]

I thought Youan played a big part in the second goal for them. Doidge should kick the ball away but Youan didn’t make a proper effort to get to Lowry. It was half arsed and in keeping with his, and us in general, for the first hour of the game. There were a couple of instances in the first half as well where they just wanted the ball more than him and he put a half hearted challenge in, including in the lead up to the first goal.

The good far outweighs the bad with Youan but I think he can be lazy at times defensively.

I was raging at the game at Youan for Hearts 2nd goal but watching it back we really should have had someone out helping him. At the initial corner he was on Devlin so was always going to be wrong sided if the ball ended up back with Lowry and when it does he’s left in a 2 v 1 situation. As the spare man, Vente starts to go out to help but then retreats before eventually trying to close down Lowry as he enters the box but by that time it’s too late. I think if Vente hadn’t stopped his initial movement out towards Lowry after the first corner is cleared then we deal with that situation a lot better.

[Tambo]

I thought Youan played a big part in the second goal for them. Doidge should kick the ball away but Youan didn’t make a proper effort to get to Lowry. It was half arsed and in keeping with his, and us in general, for the first hour of the game. There were a couple of instances in the first half as well where they just wanted the ball more than him and he put a half hearted challenge in, including in the lead up to the first goal.

The good far outweighs the bad with Youan but I think he can be lazy at times defensively.

I agree regarding the second goal for them and posted it in the match thread, I do believe he can be a bit lazy at defending at times with just half heartedly sticking a leg out. Can't deny his workrate though and he has good cardio.

Two decent finishes and has 100% improved on his decision making under Monty and should finish the season with good numbers.

[SHODAN]

Even “Snipers Dream” himself is a big fan.

https://i.postimg.cc/BQKp5cBy/IMG-0899.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Lnmj2P7B)

What an arse. Was that yesterday?

[Phil MaGlass]

Ellie is and will be some player, he needs to see a pass earlier and easier, another fault he has is his backtracking when losing the ball, think I swore at the telly about 40 times.

[CentreLine]

Even “Snipers Dream” himself is a big fan.

https://i.postimg.cc/BQKp5cBy/IMG-0899.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Lnmj2P7B)

That’s a picture that should be shown to Youan before every game. He is well capable of putting pisstakers like that back in their box

[brog]

I thought Youan played a big part in the second goal for them. Doidge should kick the ball away but Youan didn’t make a proper effort to get to Lowry. It was half arsed and in keeping with his, and us in general, for the first hour of the game. There were a couple of instances in the first half as well where they just wanted the ball more than him and he put a half hearted challenge in, including in the lead up to the first goal.

The good far outweighs the bad with Youan but I think he can be lazy at times defensively.

Elie was further from Lowry than 2 other Hibs players but he was the only one to make an effort to get near him. In fact the other 2 retreated. Unfortunately Elie was always on the wrong side of Lowry so couldn't close him down.
As for the goal, 1) Doidge couldn't do that again in 1000 attempts and 2) you would have thought Lowry had scored a worldly from his reaction instead of knocking an innocuous ball into the box.

[Pretty Boy]

I'm delighted that Monty doesn't seem happy just to meekly accept Youan for what he is and instead wants more from him. His calling him out at HT yesterday suggests he doesn't want a player who is here because he has faults and rather he wants to remove as many of those faults and have a player that other teams are queuing up for.

I'm even more delighted that Elie seems to have responded positively to it, both yesterday and more generally since the manager changed.

I think we all accept that when we get a player like Youan it is because they have a few clear flaws in their game. The goal is surely to improve them and get the best out of them until they are ready to make the next step rather than just accept them continuing to have the same flaws though.

I really like Youan. He's evidently a better player now than the one we signed on loan. There is still more to come from him though and I trust that Monty is demanding that from him everyday, once that comes then we'll have a superstar for a few months and then a lot of money in the bank. He's not there yet and it's heartening that both him and the manager realise that and don't seem to be making excuses for it or accepting it.

[B.H.F.C]

Elie was further from Lowry than 2 other Hibs players but he was the only one to make an effort to get near him. In fact the other 2 retreated. Unfortunately Elie was always on the wrong side of Lowry so couldn't close him down.
As for the goal, 1) Doidge couldn't do that again in 1000 attempts and 2) you would have thought Lowry had scored a worldly from his reaction instead of knocking an innocuous ball into the box.

By the time Lowry gets the ball down Youan was closest to him but didn’t react to it. I think with a bit more urgency and desire he manages to put a bit pressure on Lowry. There were multiple mistakes in it but I thought it just kind of summed up our first hour. Glad Youan turned it round after that, obviously.

[southern hibby]

I think you don't like him for some reason, to start theorising that he's to blame for our goals conceded this season despite his overall contribution being far and away better than most other players in the squad is insane.

I don't think there is any way he is 'lazy', is he a good defender? nope, but that's not his primary job. Some people are blaming him for the second goal yesterday, in which he came back to pressure lowry but no one came out to help, lowry then moved away from where Elie was and put in a pretty crap cross that Doidge managed to slice into his own net. There's only one person to blame for that, but people are still trying to find a way to put it on Youan.

Slick shoes,

I do like him, trust me if I didn’t I’d let you know.
However I’m under the believe that wingers need to get back to help their defenders out to stop crosses coming into the box.

Now unless I’m not mistaken there’s lots of teams out there were their wingers come back to help out.

However it’s no my job to sort that out that’s up to Monty now.
What I will say about Youan is he will make us money probably a very large amount, but I do think he can track back more often.

GGTTH

[Saint Hibee]

There are lots of valid criticisms that can be made of Youan, but the one I don’t get is people saying that he’s lazy. He consistently works his socks off even when things aren’t going for him. I think he’s actually one of our hardest working players.

[brog]

By the time Lowry gets the ball down Youan was closest to him but didn’t react to it. I think with a bit more urgency and desire he manages to put a bit pressure on Lowry. There were multiple mistakes in it but I thought it just kind of summed up our first hour. Glad Youan turned it round after that, obviously.

When the pass was made there were 2 other players closer to Lowry than Elie. The fact he was closer after that means he reacted positively and the other 2 didn't, in fact as I said they retreated. I'm not saying Elie did well but I don't understand why you're highlighting him only. Doidge also seems to be getting a free pass, imagine if Rocky or Hanlon had done that!

[brog]

I'm delighted that Monty doesn't seem happy just to meekly accept Youan for what he is and instead wants more from him. His calling him out at HT yesterday suggests he doesn't want a player who is here because he has faults and rather he wants to remove as many of those faults and have a player that other teams are queuing up for.

I'm even more delighted that Elie seems to have responded positively to it, both yesterday and more generally since the manager changed.

I think we all accept that when we get a player like Youan it is because they have a few clear flaws in their game. The goal is surely to improve them and get the best out of them until they are ready to make the next step rather than just accept them continuing to have the same flaws though.

I really like Youan. He's evidently a better player now than the one we signed on loan. There is still more to come from him though and I trust that Monty is demanding that from him everyday, once that comes then we'll have a superstar for a few months and then a lot of money in the bank. He's not there yet and it's heartening that both him and the manager realise that and don't seem to be making excuses for it or accepting it.
Great post!

[B.H.F.C]

When the pass was made there were 2 other players closer to Lowry than Elie. The fact he was closer after that means he reacted positively and the other 2 didn't, in fact as I said they retreated. I'm not saying Elie did well but I don't understand why you're highlighting him only. Doidge also seems to be getting a free pass, imagine if Rocky or Hanlon had done that!

I’m not highlighting him only, I said Doidge should just kick the ball away. It was a terrible bit of play from him. But the thread is about Youan specifically in fairness so can see why there is more comment on him. I can see why the other two backed off, to an extent, as they’d still be mindful of their jobs from the initial corner. As I say, I thought the lack of reaction and desire to get to the ball summed up our first hour all round.

[SaulGoodman]

Even “Snipers Dream” himself is a big fan.

https://i.postimg.cc/BQKp5cBy/IMG-0899.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Lnmj2P7B)

I’ll let him off.

Same amount of goals this season as our Right Back, but he knows he can keep the fans on his side if he gestures towards us. Probably why he’s got the captains armband. He looks like a Hearts captain.

Freaks.

[Kato]

I’ll let him off.

Same amount of goals this season as our Right Back, but he knows he can keep the fans on his side if he gestures towards us. Probably why he’s got the captains armband. He looks like a Hearts captain.

Freaks.There's a castle view available on top of his heid.

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[HendoDelivered]

What an arse. Was that yesterday?

1-1 game end of last season

[Vini1875]

I think we ought to be repurposing that Kevin Nisbet song for Ellie Youan.

Oh Ellie Youan
He is a striker
He hates the hearts...

[Bushwoof]

Elie was further from Lowry than 2 other Hibs players but he was the only one to make an effort to get near him. In fact the other 2 retreated. Unfortunately Elie was always on the wrong side of Lowry so couldn't close him down.
As for the goal, 1) Doidge couldn't do that again in 1000 attempts and 2) you would have thought Lowry had scored a worldly from his reaction instead of knocking an innocuous ball into the box.

Typical Doidge finish that, to be fair.

[Keepthefaith]

I think we ought to be repurposing that Kevin Nisbet song for Ellie Youan.

Oh Ellie Youan
He is a striker
He hates the hearts...

This. The guy needs a song! Said elsewhere I felt for him at the end of the game and we were singing super Joe. What more can the guy do to get a bit of adulation??

[truehibernian]

That’s a picture that should be shown to Youan before every game. He is well capable of putting pisstakers like that back in their box

Hopefully Ellie takes his strip off to reveal a Coneheads tshirt next time he scores against them 👍 Shankland is Poundland and the bizarre pundits overreaction about his ability astounds me - the fact every one of them including their ex assistant manager touts him for The Rangers shows how low they think standards are at Ibrox !

[Torto7]

I'd like to see him through the middle with Vente but with the option of peeling off to the inside left at times. Then we can play Levitt at LM and get some much needed composure into the midfield.

[HoboHarry]

There's a castle view available on top of his heid.

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To be fair, his heid is useful for landing Benny Factors helicopter on .....

[Mick O'Rourke]

Make that a treble double at the PBS :greengrin


Daryll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHeE4BcykHg

Martin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIV_icHdjbg

Sacre Bleu !!!! Elie too !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqzslEmdFPE

Last clip from Roseburn end with a wee sing song !


GGTTH

[jacomo]

I'd like to see him through the middle with Vente but with the option of peeling off to the inside left at times. Then we can play Levitt at LM and get some much needed composure into the midfield.


Our very own Thierry Henry.

[Carheenlea]

Make that a treble double at the PBS :greengrin


Daryll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHeE4BcykHg

Martin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIV_icHdjbg

Sacre Bleu !!!! Elie too !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqzslEmdFPE

Last clip from Roseburn end with a wee sing song !


GGTTH

That last video just highlights the problems created by those choosing to stand on the walkway.
They get a great view themselves, but restrict the view for many more.

We were further back so not quite as impacted, but those who have shelled out £30 for a ticket and can’t see the goal nets must feel a bit annoyed.

[eastmainsmsh]

2 unlimited no limit ellie ellie ellliiee youannnnn

[Since452]

I think his first goal has been overlooked slightly. He made sure the keeper wasn't getting it and if he did then he was going in the back of the net with it. Great finish. Took both goals really well actually.

[Mick O'Rourke]

That last video just highlights the problems created by those choosing to stand on the walkway.
They get a great view themselves, but restrict the view for many more.
years.
We were further back so not quite as impacted, but those who have shelled out £30 for a ticket and can’t see the goal nets must feel a bit annoyed.
I have my views on the cost cutting by clubs over the years in saving money by using casual labour(stewards) to carry out functions mostly did by police officers in the past .
A few cops at turnstiles and gangways in the stands would be more productive than dozens of poorly paid/trained part timers looking to top up benefits or minimum wage (i dont blame them for doing so ,btw)
It is of course also a serious health and safety concern.
Hibs really need to up their game regards the South Stand when the bigger supports are here.Contraband/flares etc and people "sneaking in"
Also clamp down on the misuse of toilets
.Sorry !! This is for another thread.Its worth a debate though !!

Just to get back on topic.
I see Elie going on a wee hot run like Martin did.
When Monty gets this side/squad fine tuned ,its going to be very good music !!


A wee bit of Northern Soul in the tunnel with Brummie Joe leading the team out singing�� !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grE0lwTsSPg

[B.H.F.C]

That last video just highlights the problems created by those choosing to stand on the walkway.
They get a great view themselves, but restrict the view for many more.

We were further back so not quite as impacted, but those who have shelled out £30 for a ticket and can’t see the goal nets must feel a bit annoyed.

It’s a complete pain in the arse folk standing there. We intentionally got tickets further back this time as we’ve been in the front few rows of the ‘upper’ last couple of times and hardly been able to see the goals at our end. Don’t get why folk can just sit/stand where they’re meant to.

[BILLYHIBS]

Elle Youan makes L’equipe’s French team of the week

Check oot the Goalie ?


https://i.ibb.co/svR8Qmx/IMG-2128.png (https://ibb.co/SXyF0sY)
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[wookie70]

It’s a complete pain in the arse folk standing there. We intentionally got tickets further back this time as we’ve been in the front few rows of the ‘upper’ last couple of times and hardly been able to see the goals at our end. Don’t get why folk can just sit/stand where they’re meant to. Because they are more important than anyone else. Our young team are just as entitled as the Uglies fans

[Since452]

Youan is still obviously very raw but he'll leave Hibs for big money.

[Mick O'Rourke]

Elle Youan makes L’equipe’s French team of the week

Check oot the Goalie ?


https://i.ibb.co/svR8Qmx/IMG-2128.png (https://ibb.co/SXyF0sY)
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Well spotted Billy ��
Goalie story
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2023/oct/09/giroud-goes-in-goal-shuts-eyes-saves-day-milan-serie-a


Can one player change a game in a heartbeat (no pun intended)
YES !! Elie can and did !!

[lyonhibs]

They're both right footed. Either way one is inverted.

I'm not a fan of inverted wingers but like you say, currently unavoidable unless it's a 4-4-2 with Obita wide midfield.

[brog]

Having watched the game again I noted a couple of new things.
1. Elie's sublime flick for Boyle created our first and best chance of the first half.
2. I hadn't realised that Elie had both an assist and a goal for #2. It was his pass which sent MB free and he had the natural scorer's intuition to keep running into the danger area. He also did really well to adjust his feet for the shot. Not for the 1st time our 2 wide men were on the same side of the park, now that's flexibility!
Coaching is great but there's no substitute for natural ability. IMO, we always need that bit of maverick skill in our team.

[flash]

Elle Youan makes L’equipe’s French team of the week

Check oot the Goalie ?


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That will get his name in a few notebooks i would imagine.

[jacomo]

I'm not a fan of inverted wingers but like you say, currently unavoidable unless it's a 4-4-2 with Obita wide midfield.


Boyle looks lost on the left to me, he prefers skinning a man on the outside. Youan looks much more comfortable on the left and cutting inside.

[BILLYHIBS]

That will get his name in a few notebooks i would imagine.

I did say I could see him playing for Les Blues and got laughed at

Still a wee bit to go though the guy is a total enigma but regardless could be a nice wee payday for us

[jacomo]

That will get his name in a few notebooks i would imagine.


£450k bid from Celtc incoming (£500k with add ons).

[ScottB]

Fantastic for Youan! Also Giroud in goal is just excellent haha

[lyonhibs]

£450k bid from Celtc incoming (£500k with add ons).

Spread over 3 years

[BILLYHIBS]

£450k bid from Celtc incoming (£500k with add ons).

Did we not pay more than that ?

Yeah you are right sounds like the guardians of the biscuit tin

[jacomo]

Did we not pay more than that ?

Yeah you are right sounds like the guardians of the biscuit tin


Yeah but if you know your history you are basically a Celtc fan anyhow so our wee club just needs to roll over and accept what we are given.

:rolleyes:

[BILLYHIBS]

Yeah but if you know your history you are basically a Celtc fan anyhow so our wee club just needs to roll over and accept what we are given.

:rolleyes:

If only they had paid the asking price for SJM they would have stopped The Rangers winning the League

Wasn’t fortunes and a bargain at that

OP updated

[Tyler Durden]

I'm delighted that Monty doesn't seem happy just to meekly accept Youan for what he is and instead wants more from him. His calling him out at HT yesterday suggests he doesn't want a player who is here because he has faults and rather he wants to remove as many of those faults and have a player that other teams are queuing up for.

I'm even more delighted that Elie seems to have responded positively to it, both yesterday and more generally since the manager changed.

I think we all accept that when we get a player like Youan it is because they have a few clear flaws in their game. The goal is surely to improve them and get the best out of them until they are ready to make the next step rather than just accept them continuing to have the same flaws though.

I really like Youan. He's evidently a better player now than the one we signed on loan. There is still more to come from him though and I trust that Monty is demanding that from him everyday, once that comes then we'll have a superstar for a few months and then a lot of money in the bank. He's not there yet and it's heartening that both him and the manager realise that and don't seem to be making excuses for it or accepting it.

This is spot on. I really don't want to read another post saying "If he could do XYZ, he wouldn't be at Hibs".

We've paid £500k for him and he needs to keep improving. Nobody is asking him to do anything he's not capable of.

I'm pretty certain that domestically this season, all his goals and assists are in the 2nd half. Has he even had an acceptable first half performance all season? Maybe away at Killie or Aberdeen?

He needs to figure out why he's starting games so poorly and do something about it. Arguably that could be labelled at the team more generally aswell. Good on Youan that he's taken the feedback onboard and seems determined to improve.

[Since452]

If only they had paid the asking price for SJM they would have stopped The Rangers winning the League

Wasn’t fortunes and a bargain at that

OP updated

So glad he didn't go to Celtic and is now proving himself at the highest level.

[jacomo]

If only they had paid the asking price for SJM they would have stopped The Rangers winning the League

Wasn’t fortunes and a bargain at that

OP updated


:agree:

As short-sighted a move as you will see. Also provoked the fall out between Rodgers and Lawwell. Fools.

[brog]

This is spot on. I really don't want to read another post saying "If he could do XYZ, he wouldn't be at Hibs".

We've paid £500k for him and he needs to keep improving. Nobody is asking him to do anything he's not capable of.

I'm pretty certain that domestically this season, all his goals and assists are in the 2nd half. Has he even had an acceptable first half performance all season? Maybe away at Killie or Aberdeen?

He needs to figure out why he's starting games so poorly and do something about it. Arguably that could be labelled at the team more generally aswell. Good on Youan that he's taken the feedback onboard and seems determined to improve.

Your 2nd point in bold is correct. We're the 2nd highest league scorers but have only scored 2 1st half goals in the league versus 11 in 2nd half. It's alo a product of football however with 80% more goals coming in 2nd half in our league this season. Take us out and it's still 61%

[MWHIBBIES]

I did say I could see him playing for Les Blues and got laughed at

Still a wee bit to go though the guy is a total enigma but regardless could be a nice wee payday for us

As much as I rate Youan, France have wingers for the next 10 years. He'll never get near. Most other nations he'd have a shot. How long for a Scottish passport? :greengrin

[nonshinyfinish]

As much as I rate Youan, France have wingers for the next 10 years. He'll never get near. Most other nations he'd have a shot. How long for a Scottish passport? :greengrin

Five years, so summer 2027 (unless the rules have changed).

[CapitalGreen]

Because they are more important than anyone else. Our young team are just as entitled as the Uglies fans

Was it just young team? From what I saw it was fans of all ages standing on the walkway.

[BILLYHIBS]

As much as I rate Youan, France have wingers for the next 10 years. He'll never get near. Most other nations he'd have a shot. How long for a Scottish passport? :greengrin

Did you see that guy that played for Villa that cost 40m and 50 caps for France

Different gravy Digne I think ?

[adam middlemass]

Ellie is and will be some player, he needs to see a pass earlier and easier, another fault he has is his backtracking when losing the ball, think I swore at the telly about 40 times.

I did the same, so bloody frustrating but what a talent he is and needs to improve on a few of the weaker aspects of his game. But really glad we have him at our club. 👏

[MWHIBBIES]

Did you see that guy that played for Villa that cost 40m and 50 caps for France

Different gravy Digne I think ?

Was playing a different sport from our boys that night.

[J-C]

The lad has plenty of pace, knows how to score and seems a really likeable bloke. If he can start playing more with his head up and be a bit less greedy, then he'll be a real top notch player and when he goes, we'll get a damn good fee for him.

[matty_f]

This is spot on. I really don't want to read another post saying "If he could do XYZ, he wouldn't be at Hibs".

We've paid £500k for him and he needs to keep improving. Nobody is asking him to do anything he's not capable of.

I'm pretty certain that domestically this season, all his goals and assists are in the 2nd half. Has he even had an acceptable first half performance all season? Maybe away at Killie or Aberdeen?

He needs to figure out why he's starting games so poorly and do something about it. Arguably that could be labelled at the team more generally aswell. Good on Youan that he's taken the feedback onboard and seems determined to improve.

I don’t think anyone who is saying that he wouldn’t be at Hibs if he didn’t have his flaws is saying that we shouldn’t expect him to get better, in fact I think everyone recognises that Hibs’ model is to pick up the rough diamonds that are out there, give them a good ol’ polish and then sell them on when the time is right for much more than we bought them for.

That whole principle is predicated on the player improving while they’re here.

I would think it’s stating the obvious to say that everyone wants all the players to improve while they’re at the club and that the flaws that each player has are worked on by the coaches.

[He's here!]

Having watched the game again I noted a couple of new things.
1. Elie's sublime flick for Boyle created our first and best chance of the first half.
2. I hadn't realised that Elie had both an assist and a goal for #2. It was his pass which sent MB free and he had the natural scorer's intuition to keep running into the danger area. He also did really well to adjust his feet for the shot. Not for the 1st time our 2 wide men were on the same side of the park, now that's flexibility!
Coaching is great but there's no substitute for natural ability. IMO, we always need that bit of maverick skill in our team.

Said it before but his skill, speed and vision to set up Boyle for the late equaliser in the first derby of last season marked him out as something a bit special.

[superfurryhibby]

Was it just young team? From what I saw it was fans of all ages standing on the walkway.

Sorry, but it was predominantly younger guys. I was in row 16 and never saw Youan's second hit the net due to aforementioned. I would have thought it was an easy issue to steward, but it seems that's allowed to be a semi free for all. Young guys in our seats too, politely asked to move and tbf, they did.

The current system allows Youan to play in a very advanced role, but it also exposes him and his full back significantly, like on Saturday. Suppose it cuts both ways. I hope Montgomery stops subbing him when we are needing a goal though, he's much more likely to score than Tavares.

[CapitalGreen]

Sorry, but it was predominantly younger guys. I was in row 16 and never saw Youan's second hit the net due to aforementioned. I would have thought it was an easy issue to steward, but it seems that's allowed to be a semi free for all. Young guys in our seats too, politely asked to move and tbf, they did.


You don’t have to apologise. The folk blocking your view were younger but there were fans standing on the walkway for the full width of the stand and those doing so were all ages. I was a couple rows behind you and didn’t see the ball hit the net either.

[superfurryhibby]

You don’t have to apologise. The folk blocking your view were younger but there were fans standing on the walkway for the full width of the stand and those doing so were all ages. I was a couple rows behind you and didn’t see the ball hit the net either.

Do you not think the stewards, with the aid of Police if necessary, could be making people return to their seat?

You pay £30.00 odd quid to watch an event, get treated like **** on the way in and then find that there is no will to address the actions of the selfish minded.

There were folk of all ages standing there, but the vast majority were youngsters, not that it really matters, they were all fuds.

[Tyler Durden]

I don’t think anyone who is saying that he wouldn’t be at Hibs if he didn’t have his flaws is saying that we shouldn’t expect him to get better, in fact I think everyone recognises that Hibs’ model is to pick up the rough diamonds that are out there, give them a good ol’ polish and then sell them on when the time is right for much more than we bought them for.

That whole principle is predicated on the player improving while they’re here.

I would think it’s stating the obvious to say that everyone wants all the players to improve while they’re at the club and that the flaws that each player has are worked on by the coaches.

You would think it's stating the obvious yes. So what's the point in replies like this exchange from page 1 of this thread?

"if he can be more consistent with his possession and passing he'd be some player...."

"And would defo not be at Hibs"

This type of reply continually comes up in threads about Youan. The implication being that it's somehow unrealistic that we demand he improve some of the basics - a player who's been here nearly 18 months now.

Whatever the intention of posts like those........they're reductive and add nothing to the conversation.

[superfurryhibby]

You would think it's stating the obvious yes. So what's the point in replies like this exchange from page 1 of this thread?

"if he can be more consistent with his possession and passing he'd be some player...."

"And would defo not be at Hibs"

This type of reply continually comes up in threads about Youan. The implication being that it's somehow unrealistic that we demand he improve some of the basics - a player who's been here nearly 18 months now.

Whatever the intention of posts like those........they're reductive and add nothing to the conversation.

Fair comment.

Youan didn't become a first team regular until after the World Cup break last year? By my reckoning the need to improve some of the basics was partially addressed by the progress he made last season, going from much maligned dud to a valued player.

This season our tactical approach has seen him prominent in attack, but also left him and his full back pretty exposed, as we saw on Saturday.

For me, the creativity he brings far out weighs any negatives. It's the hardest thing in football, to beat a man and make a chance for others or score a goal. It doesn't always work for Elie and there are times when he needs to be stronger on the ball and wiser in his choice of when to pass.

He can and surely will improve under Montgomery. He's 24, only played 115 first team games. For me that is encouraging, he has plenty to learn and a huge amount to offer.

[Tyler Durden]

Fair comment.

Youan didn't become a first team regular until after the World Cup break last year? By my reckoning the need to improve some of the basics was partially addressed by the progress he made last season, going from much maligned dud to a valued player.

This season our tactical approach has seen him prominent in attack, but also left him and his full back pretty exposed, as we saw on Saturday.

For me, the creativity he brings far out weighs any negatives. It's the hardest thing in football, to beat a man and make a chance for others or score a goal. It doesn't always work for Elie and there are times when he needs to be stronger on the ball and wiser in his choice of when to pass.

He can and surely will improve under Montgomery. He's 24, only played 115 first team games. For me that is encouraging, he has plenty to learn and a huge amount to offer.

Agree with all of that.

I think we need to get him performing for longer spells is the next challenge and starting games stronger.

[brog]

Said it before but his skill, speed and vision to set up Boyle for the late equaliser in the first derby of last season marked him out as something a bit special.
Agreed, it was an exceptional goal starting with a throw in from our own half. If any one touch or pass had been less than perfect we would not have scored. The fact it was against them is just the icing on the cake!

[Libby Hibby]

I have a funny feeling Youan is going to score the winner in the league cup semi final.

[BILLYHIBS]

Remarkable turn of foot by Youan as he put on the after burners to hit the touch line to cut the ball back to Boyler for a debut goal as he had showed virtually nothing all game

Has become a bit of a bogey for the Hearts

[matty_f]

You would think it's stating the obvious yes. So what's the point in replies like this exchange from page 1 of this thread?

"if he can be more consistent with his possession and passing he'd be some player...."

"And would defo not be at Hibs"

This type of reply continually comes up in threads about Youan. The implication being that it's somehow unrealistic that we demand he improve some of the basics - a player who's been here nearly 18 months now.

Whatever the intention of posts like those........they're reductive and add nothing to the conversation.

I disagree, I think we have seen improvements in Youan but when he’s at the point where he’s doing everything well, how long do you think we’ll have him?

Youan has already been rumoured to have attracted some interest from elsewhere, there will be bigger clubs who will be watching him and keeping him iron out his flaws at Hibs before they make us/him an offer we can’t refuse, at which point he’ll no longer be at Hibs.

We can demand he gets better, and he will, I’m sure, but in the meantime there needs to be some acceptance that he’s not there yet.

[Ship of Hope]

He is the most maverick of all our players and has both the confidence and ability to take players on. In many ways he epitomises the phrase “the hibs way” but 18 months on we still don’t have a good song for him.. certainly deserves one imo as his contribution has been outstanding lately and he seems more direct since Monty arrived. If someone writes it I’ll defo be singing along.

[Seafield Scott]

I'm hoping the two goals last weekend will have raised his confidence levels that he can go on to become more consistent. He has undoubted ability and pace to scare most defences but needs more consistency imo. Hopefully he can 'relax' as I've always felt he was trying too hard at times so snatched at opportunities or didn't get his head up properly to read the game/situation well. I think he'll go onto to get 15-20 goals this season but I would like him to mix up the wing play with time more centrally as well.

[PatHead]

He is the most maverick of all our players and has both the confidence and ability to take players on. In many ways he epitomises the phrase “the hibs way” but 18 months on we still don’t have a good song for him.. certainly deserves one imo as his contribution has been outstanding lately and he seems more direct since Monty arrived. If someone writes it I’ll defo be singing along.

He's here,he's there, he's every flipping where.
Ellie Youhan, Ellie Youhan.

Reminds me of another legend who was a speed merchant and started out as a rough diamond.

[Hibernian Verse]

He's here,he's there, he's every flipping where.
Ellie Youhan, Ellie Youhan.

Reminds me of another legend who was a speed merchant and started out as a rough diamond.

Youan* sorry but it's becoming a major bugbear of mine, especially on Sportsound.