Youan

[HendoDelivered]

Shoulder injury didn’t look great. Hope he isn’t out for too long. Thought he was a real live wire today, especially in the first half, looked less lazy (defensively) and more of a team player, but still trying bits of skill when it was the right time.

[JimBHibees]

Shoulder injury didn’t look great. Hope he isn’t out for too long. Thought he was a real live wire today, especially in the first half, looked less lazy (defensively) and more of a team player, but still trying bits of skill when it was the right time.

Definitely missed him when we went off. Looked like a collar bone totally caused by the pitch. Absolutely shambolic surface

[Cat Stanton]

Definitely missed him when we went off. Looked like a collar bone totally caused by the pitch. Absolutely shambolic surface

Not helped by the insane challenge on him.

Thought Kilmarnock were the ugly side of Scottish football today (which is really ugly indeed) - pretty dirty, vert cynical.

[Dashing Bob S]

Not helped by the insane challenge on him.

Thought Kilmarnock were the ugly side of Scottish football today (which is really ugly indeed) - pretty dirty, vert cynical.

Agreed. No matter what happens I think we dodged a bullet not having McInness football near us. Call it ‘streetwise’ if you like, my term would be *****.

[Golden Bear]

At the time, the physio didn't seem to think that there was much cause for concern as he initilly allowed Youan to continue. Hopefully its nothing too serious.

[Kato]

Not helped by the insane challenge on him.

Thought Kilmarnock were the ugly side of Scottish football today (which is really ugly indeed) - pretty dirty, vert cynical.16 fouls to Hibs 8.

5 bookings to Hibs 4.

The ratio of Hibs getting bookings for less fouls than most clubs standing strong.

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[greenlex]

This might be controversial and based on nothing more than his body language in the previous 15 mins or so but I got the impression he didn’t fancy it at all when we were under the cosh so took the easy option of going off. Possibly reading too much into it but I’m sure he will be fine. Not saying he is feining injury but didn’t look too determined to stay on. Maybe the pitch had a bearing on that too.

[Kato]

Agreed. No matter what happens I think we dodged a bullet not having McInness football near us. Call it ‘streetwise’ if you like, my term would be *****.Awful. St Johnstone were exactly the same when he managed them.

As I keep repeating, Hibs wouldn't get treated so leniently.

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[JohnM1875]

16 fouls to Hibs 8.

5 bookings to Hibs 4.

The ratio of Hibs getting bookings for less fouls than most clubs standing strong.

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Happens almost every week, starting to think I'm just being paranoid. The Miller booking is an absolute joke.

[Kato]

Happens almost every week, starting to think I'm just being paranoid. The Miller booking is an absolute joke.From a couple of seasons ago but I doubt it has changed much. Difficult stat to get a hold of.

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[Carheenlea]

Definitely missed him when we went off. Looked like a collar bone totally caused by the pitch. Absolutely shambolic surface

Kilmarnock should be obliged to pay out compensation to clubs for anyone injured due to the surface of their dangerous pitch.

[Kato]

Kilmarnock should be obliged to pay out compensation to clubs for anyone injured due to the surface of their dangerous pitch.Way too much respect given to them by other managers. NM using the euphemistic "difficult pitch" post match today.

It's brutal. Not even a good artificial surface, those pellets should just be banned. If they can't afford a proper pitch they aren't a professional club.

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[SlickShoes]

This might be controversial and based on nothing more than his body language in the previous 15 mins or so but I got the impression he didn’t fancy it at all when we were under the cosh so took the easy option of going off. Possibly reading too much into it but I’m sure he will be fine. Not saying he is feining injury but didn’t look too determined to stay on. Maybe the pitch had a bearing on that too.

Absolute nonsense, he got hacked down and fell on his shoulder, he didn’t go down and go off because he couldn’t be bothered.

Just say you don’t like him for whatever reason that may be, instead of typing out drivel with meaningless caveats

[Cat Stanton]

This might be controversial and based on nothing more than his body language in the previous 15 mins or so but I got the impression he didn’t fancy it at all when we were under the cosh so took the easy option of going off. Possibly reading too much into it but I’m sure he will be fine. Not saying he is feining injury but didn’t look too determined to stay on. Maybe the pitch had a bearing on that too.

Sorry, don't agree at all. God knows he has his faults, Youan (especially not bloody passing when he should) but he was certainly up for it.

[Onion]

At the time, the physio didn't seem to think that there was much cause for concern as he initilly allowed Youan to continue. Hopefully its nothing too serious.

Don't think Youan suffers the basic knocks and trips well. Can remember a few games when he gave impression he'd been shot, only to shake it off in time for the next match. Hopefully, he'll be fine for Sat.

[hibby rae]

Not helped by the insane challenge on him.

Thought Kilmarnock were the ugly side of Scottish football today (which is really ugly indeed) - pretty dirty, vert cynical.

That's a McInnes team for you.

[BoomtownHibees]

This might be controversial and based on nothing more than his body language in the previous 15 mins or so but I got the impression he didn’t fancy it at all when we were under the cosh so took the easy option of going off. Possibly reading too much into it but I’m sure he will be fine. Not saying he is feining injury but didn’t look too determined to stay on. Maybe the pitch had a bearing on that too.

Bloody hell

[Hibbyradge]

Not helped by the insane challenge on him.

Thought Kilmarnock were the ugly side of Scottish football today (which is really ugly indeed) - pretty dirty, vert cynical.

Not helped?

It was caused by that challenge. I know it wasn't a sending off but it feels like the damage it caused should merit some stronger punishment.

[Cat Stanton]

Not helped?

It was caused by that challenge. I know it wasn't a sending off but it feels like the damage it caused should merit some stronger punishment.

Yes, I was being slightly sarcastic.

[Hibbyradge]

Yes, I was being slightly sarcastic.

I know. I wasn't really correcting you. More like joining in. :greengrin

[greenlex]

Absolute nonsense, he got hacked down and fell on his shoulder, he didn’t go down and go off because he couldn’t be bothered.

Just say you don’t like him for whatever reason that may be, instead of typing out drivel with meaningless caveats
I do like him. I never said I didn’t. I’m not sure what your problem is. He was tackled and yes he went down of that there is no doubt. I didn’t say anything to the contrary. I think there may be an element of him making the most of it based on what I saw prior to it. Nothing more I’m not sure what you are looking for. You’re in the wrong place if you don’t like drivel and caveats however meaningless you think they might be.

[ddoc]

Way too much respect given to them by other managers. NM using the euphemistic "difficult pitch" post match today.

It's brutal. Not even a good artificial surface, those pellets should just be banned. If they can't afford a proper pitch they aren't a professional club.

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That pitch will cost someone their career. Utterly amazed that the authorities have not stepped in and have them, and Livingston, rip them up.
I thought a number our players looked a bit hesitant at times and I am sure the surface was the issue.

[Scooter]

Injury happened because he didn't want to use his hand with a cast down to break his fall. Obvs apart from the challenge

But the pitch is still shocking

[B.H.F.C]

That pitch will cost someone their career. Utterly amazed that the authorities have not stepped in and have them, and Livingston, rip them up.
I thought a number our players looked a bit hesitant at times and I am sure the surface was the issue.

Was more down to the boy being allowed to boot him. Second half, they just gave away a foul every time we broke.

Hope Youan is OK for next week, we’d really miss him. Another assist on the board for him today and always a threat.

[flash]

I do like him. I never said I didn’t. I’m not sure what your problem is. He was tackled and yes he went down of that there is no doubt. I didn’t say anything to the contrary. I think there may be an element of him making the most of it based on what I saw prior to it. Nothing more I’m not sure what you are looking for. You’re in the wrong place if you don’t like drivel and caveats however meaningless you think they might be.

Staggered you have doubled down on your accusation.

[AlbertK86]

That pitch will cost someone their career. Utterly amazed that the authorities have not stepped in and have them, and Livingston, rip them up.
I thought a number our players looked a bit hesitant at times and I am sure the surface was the issue.

Pitch is a danger and an absolute disgrace. Ball gets held up, caught between feet and bobbles all over the

Agree that a player is going to get seriously injured


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[neil7908]

That's a McInnes team for you.

We 100% dodged a bullet. I could never understand the clamour for him and I'm really pleased with the choice we made.

[Lago]

Pitch is a danger and an absolute disgrace. Ball gets held up, caught between feet and bobbles all over the

Agree that a player is going to get seriously injured


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Pitch looks like a badly fitted carpet, wrinkles everywhere.

[marinello59]

Pitch looks like a badly fitted carpet, wrinkles everywhere.

Killie should be told to replace it ASAP, it’s even worse then the one we played on at Alloa.

[007]

Pitch looks like a badly fitted carpet, wrinkles everywhere.

It isn't fit for the Scottish Masters, that's how bad it is.

[Lago]

It isn't fit for the Scottish Masters, that's how bad it is.
I know that both Killie and Livi say they need them to generate additional income, but watching YouTube video of yesterday's match you can see how bad the surface is, not even flat, they have to go.

[erin go bragh]

I know that both Killie and Livi say they need them to generate additional income, but watching YouTube video of yesterday's match you can see how bad the surface is, not even flat, they have to go.
Makes our game look tinpot as no artificial pitches aloud in all the 92 clubs in the English leagues
They also totally soaked the pitch pre match to the point of players slipping. Total joke and dangerous surface. Maybe Celtic and Rangers could take a leaf out of Ajax and Feyenoord, who paid for all the clubs to have decent hybrid pitches as it benefits them for playing on them.

[NAE NOOKIE]

The way Youan took the ball round the defender to set up Vente was superb, the guy can delight and frustrate you in equal measure, but that few times every game where he gets it right makes him well worth having, we'll miss him big time if he gets injured.

As for the Kilmarnock pitch, even from the brief highlights on Sportscene you could see what a mess it is, it's an absolute embarrassment that a pitch in that state would be allowed in the championship, never mind the premiership. Its getting to the stage where you can't help thinking Killie want to keep it in it's current form because it's a leveller they are used to playing on and the others aren't.
The other clubs could train on an artificial pitch all week before visiting Rugby Park and it still wouldn't prepare them for a visit there to play on that mess.

Its way past time that all the premiership clubs made it clear that if it isn't ripped up and if not replaced by grass, then at least replaced with a proper modern artificial surface, they will refuse to play on it next season.

[overdrive]

Are the artificial pitches at HTC as bad as Killie's pitch? Livi's is also bad but at least doesn't look quite as bad as the Killie one.

[basehibby]

The Killie pitch is abysmal - an embarrassment to Scottish football, a danger to players and an unfair advantage to the home side who will be accustomed to its inconsistencies and faults.
Should definitely be banned. Zero artificial pitches in the top flight - a proper pitch should be a condition of entry.

[worcesterhibby]

The Killie pitch is abysmal - an embarrassment to Scottish football, a danger to players and an unfair advantage to the home side who will be accustomed to its inconsistencies and faults.
Should definitely be banned. Zero artificial pitches in the top flight - a proper pitch should be a condition of entry.

This 100% can we start a petition ?

[Since452]

I always thought Livi's pitch was worse than Killie's with the pellets flying up etc.

[Greenside]

The Killie pitch is abysmal - an embarrassment to Scottish football, a danger to players and an unfair advantage to the home side who will be accustomed to its inconsistencies and faults.
Should definitely be banned. Zero artificial pitches in the top flight - a proper pitch should be a condition of entry.

"Generally, good quality synthetic turf should last for 8 years. Assuming around 40 hours of play a week, with correct usage and maintenance, an artificial pitch should continue to meet the appropriate standards for the 8 years.6 Dec 2016"
How old is the Killie pitch?

[sauzeelegod]

"Generally, good quality synthetic turf should last for 8 years. Assuming around 40 hours of play a week, with correct usage and maintenance, an artificial pitch should continue to meet the appropriate standards for the 8 years.6 Dec 2016"
How old is the Killie pitch?

Think they got it relaid in 2019

[jacomo]

I always thought Livi's pitch was worse than Killie's with the pellets flying up etc.


Cancerous pellets.

And they say sport is good for you!

[Since452]

Cancerous pellets.

And they say sport is good for you!

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/624/cpsprodpb/9E68/production/_103325504_15351439.jpg


Horrendous!

[greenlex]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/624/cpsprodpb/9E68/production/_103325504_15351439.jpg


Horrendous! it’s actually improved a bit from that. When first laid it was a complete joke.

[Bridge hibs]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/624/cpsprodpb/9E68/production/_103325504_15351439.jpg


Horrendous!Jeez thats dangerous, I thought that was James McFaddens discarded hair weave 🫣

[Baader]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/624/cpsprodpb/9E68/production/_103325504_15351439.jpg


Horrendous!

Absolute embarrassment. No way a surface like that should be anywhere near a top flight professional set up. Wouldn't even want a school team playing on that.

[s2hart]

Any news on Youan's injury?

[jacomo]

Absolute embarrassment. No way a surface like that should be anywhere near a top flight professional set up. Wouldn't even want a school team playing on that.


Absolutely not. No one should play on these surfaces, they are a massive health risk.

[ZitellZeTime]

Makes our game look tinpot as no artificial pitches aloud in all the 92 clubs in the English leagues
They also totally soaked the pitch pre match to the point of players slipping. Total joke and dangerous surface. Maybe Celtic and Rangers could take a leaf out of Ajax and Feyenoord, who paid for all the clubs to have decent hybrid pitches as it benefits them for playing on them.

Aye my kid has played on grass and artificial pitches, the artificial pitches he's played on seem much better than killie and livi's and he's as ***** at football as I was at his age and hasn't played for any great team.

Makes me wonder how he despite playing for nobody notable even for boys club age gets to play on better pitches than what those things are, they look terrible.

I'm sure Livi's home form was much better than their away form last season, not sure about Killie or either this season really as been caught up too much with us being in Europe then change of manager etc.

Wonder if they train on similar pitch so their players are used to it to try and gain some advantage when they play at home against players who aren't used to playing on that *****.

Surely they would get loads of injuries too though thats why I think I'm probably wrong.

[Ronniekirk]

Any news on Youan's injury?
In short no

[Johnny_Leith]

He's fit for the weekend

[ZitellZeTime]

He has looked a bit off like, I put it down to inconsistency but remember against fc europa he took that brutal challenge. I remember they said it was his back but then before FC Luzern Johnson mentioned his shoulder at the joint.

Wondering if he's been carrying a bit of an injury and this has pushed it over the edge and made it worse.

Hopefully not like but the silence is quite worrying now, expected to hear something by now.

[Ronniekirk]

He's fit for the weekend
Saw Doidge would play but haven’t seen anything re Youan

[seanshow]

Bit late now as killie are in the Top league, but how about all promoted teams from now on must have a grass pitch?

Gives livi and killie motivation to stay in the league I suppose, knowing once they relegated their plastic pitches are banned unless they stay in the lower leagues.

[blackpoolhibs]

Bit late now as killie are in the Top league, but how about all promoted teams from now on must have a grass pitch?

Gives livi and killie motivation to stay in the league I suppose, knowing once they relegated their plastic pitches are banned unless they stay in the lower leagues.

I'd rather the authorities said by 2025 all pitches must be grass, if you dont have a grass pitch by the end of the 2024/2025 season you are automatically relegated or demoted if its Hearts.

[worcesterhibby]

Bit late now as killie are in the Top league, but how about all promoted teams from now on must have a grass pitch?

Gives livi and killie motivation to stay in the league I suppose, knowing once they relegated their plastic pitches are banned unless they stay in the lower leagues.

We absolutely have to consider the financial implications for small clubs. I would be i favour of a two-three season notice period to give them time to financially plan, then all plastic sutfaces should be banned in top league. Let's move towards improving things in a sensible way that allows clubs to re-structure their finances and afford the change.

[007]

Saw Doidge would play but haven’t seen anything re Youan

Yeah, both are available. 👍

[Hibbyradge]

Yeah, both are available. 👍

From NMs comments, I don't think we'll see Doidge.

[JammyDoidger]

Got a feeling Doidge and Youan will both start on the bench, with a view to starting against St.Mirren.

[wookie70]

From NMs comments, I don't think we'll see Doidge. I think we will. Montgomery was joking about him playing with one eye at the press conference. Quite a few stitches he has had though so perhaps they will play it safe.

[Keepthefaith]

We absolutely have to consider the financial implications for small clubs. I would be i favour of a two-three season notice period to give them time to financially plan, then all plastic sutfaces should be banned in top league. Let's move towards improving things in a sensible way that allows clubs to re-structure their finances and afford the change.

seems like a sensible approach - but there needs to be a cut off point for sure. we really do need to take proactive steps to improve the professional standards within our game

[Since452]

From NMs comments, I don't think we'll see Doidge.

Sounded to me like he's planning on rotating the squad a bit with 3 games this week. He'll definitely feature.

[Donegal Hibby]

Monty pre-match St Johnstone interview . Apologies if already posted or seen .
https://youtu.be/nmEZET12PUI?si=oTHQXjQvdLKw68JX

[bingo70]

If Youann doesn’t start I wonder if Tavares just comes in for him or if it’s a bit early for him?

[B.H.F.C]

If Youann doesn’t start I wonder if Tavares just comes in for him or if it’s a bit early for him?

I think he will play Tavares if Youan is struggling.