Kilmarnock v Hibernian

[JohnM1875]

I get he gave away the corner though he was marking a man in the box at the 2nd goal and imo it was bad defending from other Hibs players who were beat at the near post . We can blame Rocky for giving away the corner but cmon now we have to defend better than that .

Which is why I said root cause, no corner then they don't score that goal. It's an awful attempt to win a free kick, just do your job and defend. He's better than that.

[Brightside]

I get he gave away the corner though he was marking a man in the box at the 2nd goal and imo it was bad defending from other Hibs players who were beat at the near post . We can blame Rocky for giving away the corner but cmon now we have to defend better than that .

But it’s best just not to give away a corner. A corner is a last ditch defence. You want to limit giving them away.

[Donegal Hibby]

But it’s best just not to give away a corner. A corner is a last ditch defence. You want to limit giving them away.

Absolutely agree it's best not to give away corners , free kicks at the edge of the box . Though honestly I thought it looked like a foul on Rocky though wasn't given , seen them given though . For me the corners been given and it has to be dealt with which it's not and that's down to errors from other Hibs players getting beat at the near post which they have to take the responsibility for imo .

[Brightside]

Absolutely agree it's best not to give away corners , free kicks at the edge of the box . Though honestly I thought it looked like a foul on Rocky though wasn't given , seen them given though . For me the corners been given and it has to be dealt with which it's not and that's down to errors from other Hibs players getting beat at the near post which they have to take the responsibility for imo .

He’s good in a 3. Ok as a RCB in a 2. But neither him or fish can play on the left. Try Harbottle if Paul is struggling. I will say despite the result I’m glad we aren’t playing Paul when he’s injured anymore. LJ did it constantly ( incl against Raith where he had been told he’d be rested).

[Donegal Hibby]

He’s good in a 3. Ok as a RCB in a 2. But neither him or fish can play on the left. Try Harbottle if Paul is struggling. I will say despite the result I’m glad we aren’t playing Paul when he’s injured anymore. LJ did it constantly ( incl against Raith where he had been told he’d be rested).

Personally I like Rocky TBH though accept he should have done better at the first goal as probably others should have too imo . Killie had two players in the box just before vassell scored that nobody was picking up .

2nd goal for me yeah we can blame Rocky for giving away the corner though I still think 9 times out of 10 the defender gets a foul in that case though we got to defend that better tbh .

LJ probably did play Hanlon with a injury as he did Campbell too . I suppose juggling Europe and the start of the league when you haven't the biggest of squad's isn't easy . Barry Robson as mentioned it a few times now too .

On a positive note I thought we were good in the first half and am optimistic we will in improve under Monty in time .

[CCM4LIFE]

Just back - this - wtf was that all about.

draws their strikers forward, leaving more room in the midfield I'm guessing?

[pacorosssco]

I think new manager will be all over lost goals today. You wont make again or will be replaced

[Haymaker]

Clearly we need more firepower. Vente and Doidge go off... we should have had Griffiths as an option.

[J-C]

A very good CH can play either side. There are very few of them. Right footers playing LCB struggle if they aren’t handy with their left foot. He was exposed on his left side totally due to him being so right sided. This isn’t a new idea and it’s why good LCB are a huge commodity. The second goal is easily dealt with by a simple clearance up the line but he gets himself in a tangle trying to do that and then tries to get a foul against him. I’m not blaming him but he will always struggle to play that side. We must make a LCB the no1 signing priority very soon.

Already covered, my post was about Harbottle not Rocky, I don't rate Rocky at all.

[Seafield Scott]

Root cause of both goals is Rocky's poor defending. Don't see how anyone can't see that.

I like Rocky, always have. Was buzzing the other day he got his first cap and have always said he has all the attributes to be a top player at this level. But both goals today were awful. He'll absolutely learn from it though.


I had to Google which country he represented to gain his first International cap - I was surprised it wasn't a Dutch Cap as they're perfrect for Fannees !!

It is tiresome - how many seasons have we been crying out for a new defensive unit? The fact we're still relying on Hanlon & Lewis tell us everything and hoping Marshall & Rocky magically comes good.

I hope we are all happy to sit back and allow NM the 2-3 seasons to gradually sort it all out as we won't be able to offload 4-5 of our defensive options any time soon.

[J-C]

Watched the highlights last night, Rocky wandering about in a daze for the 1st, WTF was he actually doing, no awareness whatsoever and fannying about giving away a corner instead of lumping it out the park. Miller losing his man wasn't great either.

[Alex Trager]

I had to Google which country he represented to gain his first International cap - I was surprised it wasn't a Dutch Cap as they're perfrect for Fannees !!

It is tiresome - how many seasons have we been crying out for a new defensive unit? The fact we're still relying on Hanlon & Lewis tell us everything and hoping Marshall & Rocky magically comes good.

I hope we are all happy to sit back and allow NM the 2-3 seasons to gradually sort it all out as we won't be able to offload 4-5 of our defensive options any time soon.
We need to go out and spend big money bringing in a centre half and left back like we did on Vente and Youan.

It’s time to get big quality throughout the team. Middle to front we are looking good but at the back it, not so.

Hopefully we have some quality targets in mind for Jan.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

We need to go out and spend big money bringing in a centre half and left back like we did on Vente and Youan.

It’s time to get big quality throughout the team. Middle to front we are looking good but at the back it, not so.

Hopefully we have some quality targets in mind for Jan.

Our left back will be Obita. CH is up for grabs.

[Smartie]

I’m still convinced that the Stevenson, Hanlon, Fish, Miller back 4 with Jeggo in front of them is a defensive unit that can get us where we need to be for now.

Marshall I have question marks over and down to age alone I think we need to be considering succession planning for Stevenson and Hanlon.

I’ve always been mainly bothered by the centre of midfield and depth at full back but Montgomery’s football looks markedly different to Johnson’s and I’d probably take half a season to size up whether or not our current players can step up with a clean slate before saying they have no future with us.

Rocky had some costly moments, as he tends to do from time to time. He’s never a LCB in a pair though, never will be, never will be the replacement for Hanlon. I still like him as a player.

[JimBHibees]

Watched the highlights last night, Rocky wandering about in a daze for the 1st, WTF was he actually doing, no awareness whatsoever and fannying about giving away a corner instead of lumping it out the park. Miller losing his man wasn't great either.

Don't think Rocky was only one at fault for first goal Lyons has wandered off the back of Newell I think to get initial shot in. Pathetic goal to lose.

[B.H.F.C]

Don't think Rocky was only one at fault for first goal Lyons has wandered off the back of Newell I think to get initial shot in. Pathetic goal to lose.

The whole team totally switched off. We still lack leadership in that type of situation, someone who is really going to get us organised and calm things down a bit. Was all a bit of a panic thereafter, absolutely anything could have happened. We went from cruising to being glad to get out with a point in the end.

Positives outweigh the negatives yesterday though. We’re probably going to see more of that type of thing until we can get players in defensively.

[JammyDoidger]

Everytime I watch the build up to that second goal it gets worse and worse, that was absolutely shocking from Rocky to let them get a corner out of that,, so weak it's unreal, that typifies us and him imo. He's got all the physical attributes just doesn't use them or doesn't know how to use them, even from set pieces a boy his size should be throwing his weight about, when we get a corner he should be a threat and he's everything but, boys a mouse hopefully doesn't start next week.

[B.H.F.C]

Everytime I watch the build up to that second goal it gets worse and worse, that was absolutely shocking from Rocky to let them get a corner out of that,, so weak it's unreal, that typifies us and him imo. He's got all the physical attributes just doesn't use them or doesn't know how to use them, even from set pieces a boy his size should be throwing his weight about, when we get a corner he should be a threat and he's everything but, boys a mouse hopefully doesn't start next week.

Rocky’s doesn’t know when to attack the ball or not, his timing is poor. 3 or 4 times he let the ball bounce yesterday because he hesitated. First half he goes to try and win a ball on the edge of the box that is never there to win and gives away a free kick in a really dangerous place. He’s just rash and all those things add up and let teams put us under pressure because of lack of ability to do basic things you need a centre half to do. Hopefully Hanlon back in next week.

[Heisenberg]

We are a much better team with Hanlon playing. Do we need to sign someone to replace him? Very soon probably yes, just now though he’s a much better option than Rocky. Hope he’s back next week. If he isn’t I’d play Harbottle.

[Coach Jon]

We are a much better team with Hanlon playing. Do we need to sign someone to replace him? Very soon probably yes, just now though he’s a much better option than Rocky. Hope he’s back next week. If he isn’t I’d play Harbottle.

We have the worst defence in the league, we average conceding 2 goals a game in the league, doesnt matter what combination we play.
We had conceded 8 in 4 games up to yesterday, now 10 in 5, many of them from crosses into the box, we are missing a couple of big strong CBs, and everyone of our rivals knows that.

[Frazerbob]

I had to Google which country he represented to gain his first International cap - I was surprised it wasn't a Dutch Cap as they're perfrect for Fannees !!


You see some shan patter on here at times but this post is up there with the worst.....sniff sniff

[Heisenberg]

We have the worst defence in the league, we average conceding 2 goals a game in the league, doesnt matter what combination we play.
We had conceded 8 in 4 games up to yesterday, now 10 in 5, many of them from crosses into the box, we are missing a couple of big strong CBs, and everyone of our rivals knows that.

We were solid at Pittodrie with Fish/Hanlon playing. Rocky comes back in yesterday and it was all over the place for both goals. First one he’s gone wandering and the second should be dealt with by him before it even goes for a corner. Hanlon improves the team imo.

[The Harp Awakes]

We were solid at Pittodrie with Fish/Hanlon playing. Rocky comes back in yesterday and it was all over the place for both goals. First one he’s gone wandering and the second should be dealt with by him before it even goes for a corner. Hanlon improves the team imo.

Agreed. Rocky regularly loses concentration. He was walking around aimlessly and ball watching at the 1st and in the lead up to the 2nd, why did he not just boot the ball out the stand for a throw in?

[Coach Jon]

We were solid at Pittodrie with Fish/Hanlon playing. Rocky comes back in yesterday and it was all over the place for both goals. First one he’s gone wandering and the second should be dealt with by him before it even goes for a corner. Hanlon improves the team imo.

We are still the worst defence in the league with Hanlon and Fish there, we need better.

[GreenGray]

Absolutely agree it's best not to give away corners , free kicks at the edge of the box . Though honestly I thought it looked like a foul on Rocky though wasn't given , seen them given though . For me the corners been given and it has to be dealt with which it's not and that's down to errors from other Hibs players getting beat at the near post which they have to take the responsibility for imo .

It’s basic defending that the ball should have went into the stands. Was criminal defending really.


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[Ronniekirk]

Josh Campbell going up too didn’t work at all imo Doidge was a big miss and showed how valuable he is to the team L j would of punted him
Alf coming on and was unlucky not to sore Love watching him play yon goal kick set up wasn’t working the longer game went on Is Marshall carrying sn injury ?
Boyle lovely but really should of had a goal
are we going to see more of Jair if Youan snd Doidge out injured
At 2 0 I genuinely thought we would go on and win it But it’s Hibs and that defence cost us the three points Annoying
But momentum to tske into st Johnstone game and look to win it

[blackpoolhibs]

Pleased Hanlon was dropped today. Stevenson should be nowhere near the starting lineup either.

I really hope this manager doesn't make the same mistakes as his predecessors by thinking he can rely on certain players.

Some get shot down on here for saying the squad needs an overhaul, lets hope the new manager sees that too.
I'm so happy Hanlon was dropped today for the wonderful Rocky, we don't lose many goals when he plays.

[Donegal Hibby]

We are still the worst defence in the league with Hanlon and Fish there, we need better.

Glad you mentioned this about us having the worst defence in the league which of course is true . Doesn't matter if it's Hanlon , Fish or rocky we are still losing goals . Yesterday in the 2nd half our Midfield was poor and repeatly gave the ball away needlessly to Kilmarnock which would put any defence under pressure . How many times even last season have we seen two totally different Hibs teams in games with them either playing very well in one half and s**** in the other . Midfield is a major part of the problem imo .

[Unseen work]

Josh Campbell going up too didn’t work at all imo Doidge was a big miss and showed how valuable he is to the team L j would of punted him
Alf coming on and was unlucky not to sore Love watching him play yon goal kick set up wasn’t working the longer game went on Is Marshall carrying sn injury ?
Boyle lovely but really should of had a goal
are we going to see more of Jair if Youan snd Doidge out injured
At 2 0 I genuinely thought we would go on and win it But it’s Hibs and that defence cost us the three points Annoying
But momentum to tske into st Johnstone game and look to win it

I said during the window we’re dangerously light in the wide areas.

Johnson seemed to have backed on Youan and Boyle playing 90 every week, especially with Jair nowhere to be seen.

Montgomery at least seems willing to give Jair a chance, but he needs to take it.

Interesting to see if we go for a free agent

[Hibrandenburg]

Watched the highlights last night, Rocky wandering about in a daze for the 1st, WTF was he actually doing, no awareness whatsoever and fannying about giving away a corner instead of lumping it out the park. Miller losing his man wasn't great either.

There were three unmarked Killie players just waiting to pounce on the ball when it deflected for the first goal. The whole defence looked a shambles.

[Donegal Hibby]

There were three unmarked Killie players just waiting to pounce on the ball when it deflected for the first goal. The whole defence looked a shambles.

We had four players in the box not picking anyone up who were all ball watching imo . Rocky , Fish , I think Jeggo was there too , don't know who the other was though. Even if vassell didn't shoot he could easily have passed it to one of the other unmarked Killie players to score .

[JammyDoidger]

Rocky’s doesn’t know when to attack the ball or not, his timing is poor. 3 or 4 times he let the ball bounce yesterday because he hesitated. First half he goes to try and win a ball on the edge of the box that is never there to win and gives away a free kick in a really dangerous place. He’s just rash and all those things add up and let teams put us under pressure because of lack of ability to do basic things you need a centre half to do. Hopefully Hanlon back in next week.

Montgomery strikes me as the kind of manager that just won't accept players that can't do the basics, so I'm glad he's seen it early doors tbh, would like us to get a no nonsense centre half in January that will drag the other defenders through games.

[Kato]

Montgomery strikes me as the kind of manager that just won't accept players that can't do the basics, so I'm glad he's seen it early doors tbh, would like us to get a no nonsense centre half in January that will drag the other defenders through games.That is a positive, he saw Jekyll and he saw Mr Hyde come out later. As well as him giving information he will have gotten a lot of information from the game. The players he sees as culpable will have to take on board the coaching aspects or they will lose their place, if not now then January, as he owes nothing to any of the personnel involved.

Concentration can be coached into a player and for me that, the lack of it, was our downfall yesterday. Any player who fell short is capable of more so the need for consistency has to be drummed into them. I hope NM is a good percussionist.

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[Donegal Hibby]

Article on the game if you haven't seen it .
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/twin-threats-traditional-flaws-and-plenty-of-potential-talking-points-for-hibs-4338888

[JimBHibees]

We are still the worst defence in the league with Hanlon and Fish there, we need better.

Hanlon and Fish have been decent second part of last season and imo are our best pairing

[AlbertK86]

Most folk blaming Rocky for first goal and yes he didn’t do well but to me Stevenson and Newell also culpable in particular Stevenson.

He naively jumped in and let the ball past him far to easily up near the half way line which meant Rocky and Newell had to drift to the left back area to cover.

Stevenson gets back and is standing shoulder to shoulder with the Killie boy who he gives all the time in the world to slide the ball in for the oncoming player who Newell had left to cover Stevenson.

It was an easy opportunity for Stevenson to block and he is basically just holding the attackers hands as if about to dance with him.

He should have just put the ball out the park or at least put a strong challenge on the boy.

The age old problem of allowing balls into our box raised its head again.

We had four round the guy and Rocky should’ve shiuffled back into position.

Rocky at second should’ve just put out for a throw.

Pretty sure Monty recognised Stevenson’s frailties and hooked him.

Think Hanlon if fully fit or maybe even Harbottle will be in next week.


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[AlbertK86]

We have the worst defence in the league, we average conceding 2 goals a game in the league, doesnt matter what combination we play.
We had conceded 8 in 4 games up to yesterday, now 10 in 5, many of them from crosses into the box, we are missing a couple of big strong CBs, and everyone of our rivals knows that.

Or you could say full backs that stop the crosses


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[Kato]

Or you could say full backs that stop the crosses


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[ekhibee]

What I've seen of Harbottle he's better than the rest of them IMO but I'd need to see more. It's not just Bushiri that's been poor, they've all made mistakes that have cost us.

[Donegal Hibby]

What I've seen of Harbottle he's better than the rest of them IMO but I'd need to see more. It's not just Bushiri that's been poor, they've all made mistakes that have cost us.

Don't now if Harbottle is any better tbh as I've not seen too much of him . Watched the highlights again and it was clear that Rocky had to go out to the left side to cover . Both lewy and Newell got back and Rocky should have got back into position though didn't . The ball into vassell was to easy both lewy and Newell should be trying to block it . The 3 other players we have in the box aren't picking up any of the killie players either .

The 2nd goal Rocky could have put it out but like what all defenders do he's shielding the ball in trying to draw the foul , he is bumped or pushed by the Killie player be it soft which should have been a foul imo . It's not given and the corner is whipped in at the near post and is badly defended by our players once again .

Agree with your last part that it wasn't just Rocky that was poor , they indeed all made mistakes that cost us those two goals in fairness.

[LaMotta]

What I've seen of Harbottle he's better than the rest of them IMO but I'd need to see more. It's not just Bushiri that's been poor, they've all made mistakes that have cost us.

When have you seen Harbottle play well?

[tamig]

When have you seen Harbottle play well?

He did just fine against Raith. We’ve not really had any other chances to see him play - never mind play well.

[easty]

Don't now if Harbottle is any better tbh as I've not seen too much of him . Watched the highlights again and it was clear that Rocky had to go out to the left side to cover . Both lewy and Newell got back and Rocky should have got back into position though didn't . The ball into vassell was to easy both lewy and Newell should be trying to block it . The 3 other players we have in the box aren't picking up any of the killie players either .

The 2nd goal Rocky could have put it out but like what all defenders do he's shielding the ball in trying to draw the foul , he is bumped or pushed by the Killie player be it soft which should have been a foul imo . It's not given and the corner is whipped in at the near post and is badly defended by our players once again .

Agree with your last part that it wasn't just Rocky that was poor , they indeed all made mistakes that cost us those two goals in fairness.

I dunno why you’re persisting with the ‘it should have been a foul’ line, it was never a foul. There’s only one angle (that I’ve seen, if there’s more then tell me where I can see them), and there’s little to no contact. Rocky tries to buy a foul, but the refs not falling for a terrible dive. My granny wouldn’t have been knocked over with that level of contact.

[chippy]

What I've seen of Harbottle he's better than the rest of them IMO but I'd need to see more. It's not just Bushiri that's been poor, they've all made mistakes that have cost us.
I know it was against Raith but Harbottle was a standout. Decisive, won almost all his duels. Attacked the ball, timing and marking seemed ok. Get him in

[BILLYHIBS]

I dunno why you’re persisting with the ‘it should have been a foul’ line, it was never a foul. There’s only one angle (that I’ve seen, if there’s more then tell me where I can see them), and there’s little to no contact. Rocky tries to buy a foul, but the refs not falling for a terrible dive. My granny wouldn’t have been knocked over with that level of contact.

Got to admit at the time I was shouting that Rocky had been breenged in the back from behind and it was a free kick to Hibs Rocky almost Portoesque was amazed that the award had not been given so on his rear end could only knock it out for a corner where a throw in might have been better in hindsight should have been booted out the Stadium
This has been backed up by NM who also thought it was a foul according to the Private Board and by Colin on Longbangers so it must be a dotnet fact 😀
NM points the finger at Lewis for not getting goal side at the first

[JimBHibees]

I dunno why you’re persisting with the ‘it should have been a foul’ line, it was never a foul. There’s only one angle (that I’ve seen, if there’s more then tell me where I can see them), and there’s little to no contact. Rocky tries to buy a foul, but the refs not falling for a terrible dive. My granny wouldn’t have been knocked over with that level of contact.

Don't think it was a foul however it is the sort of foul usually given for defenders usually determined on the basis of what colour strip they wear.

[Hibbyradge]

What I've seen of Harbottle he's better than the rest of them IMO but I'd need to see more. It's not just Bushiri that's been poor, they've all made mistakes that have cost us.

That's defenders for you!

[Donegal Hibby]

I dunno why you’re persisting with the ‘it should have been a foul’ line, it was never a foul. There’s only one angle (that I’ve seen, if there’s more then tell me where I can see them), and there’s little to no contact. Rocky tries to buy a foul, but the refs not falling for a terrible dive. My granny wouldn’t have been knocked over with that level of contact.

I'm persisting with it because 9 out of 10 that would go in the defenders favour ,it's just the same as when a striker jumps with the goalie even if there's minimum contact it normally goes in favour of the goalie and he gets a free kick .

The Hibs manager summed it up perfectly In Rocky should have been stronger but there was a nudge that put him off balance . If that had been tavernier or Carl Vickers the likely out come would have been a free kick given in all honesty.

As to the referee not falling for it , he didn't actually fall for to many decisions involving Hibs tbh . From the the incident at the start when the killie player tries scythe Boyle which should have been a booking , to Doidge getting knee'd in the face which can only be described as dangerous play and the killie player gets off without even a booking, Boyle getting booked when he clearly pulls out of the tackle and miller booked for a perfectly good tackle . I don't think the referee got many decisions right tbh in what was an absolutely shocking performance from him the whole game.

If you think it wasn't a foul that's fine Easty your entitled to your opinion though mines is I've seen similar incident's in games were defender's and keepers get freekicks for similar contact.

[easty]

If you think it wasn't a foul that's fine Easty your entitled to your opinion though mines is I've seen similar incident's in games were defender's and keepers get freekicks for similar contact.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001qr27/sportscene-premiership-highlights-202324-16092023

8mins in. I refuse to believe anybody who has watched any amount of football thinks thats a foul.

NM saying he thinks it should've been a foul means nothing. Had he seen a replay of it when he said it, or just what he saw at the game? I listened to Barry Robson on the radio on the way back from the game say that there wasn't much between Hearts and Aberdeen, but the highlights and reports say something very different. I've seen Michael Beale try to explain why Rangers are actually doing well, but he's talking *****. Managers back their team, as they should, but they're not always right.

[wookie70]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001qr27/sportscene-premiership-highlights-202324-16092023

8mins in. I refuse to believe anybody who has watched any amount of football thinks thats a foul.

NM saying he thinks it should've been a foul means nothing. Had he seen a replay of it when he said it, or just what he saw at the game? I listened to Barry Robson on the radio on the way back from the game say that there wasn't much between Hearts and Aberdeen, but the highlights and reports say something very different. I've seen Michael Beale try to explain why Rangers are actually doing well, but he's talking *****. Managers back their team, as they should, but they're not always right.

Is it a foul, probably not. Is it given as a foul 9 times out of 10 yes. Rocky's first touch was dreadful, then he should have held the boy off or just put it out for a throw. The basics absolutely kill us in defense

[BILLYHIBS]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001qr27/sportscene-premiership-highlights-202324-16092023

8mins in. I refuse to believe anybody who has watched any amount of football thinks thats a foul.

NM saying he thinks it should've been a foul means nothing. Had he seen a replay of it when he said it, or just what he saw at the game? I listened to Barry Robson on the radio on the way back from the game say that there wasn't much between Hearts and Aberdeen, but the highlights and reports say something very different. I've seen Michael Beale try to explain why Rangers are actually doing well, but he's talking *****. Managers back their team, as they should, but they're not always right.

Was Marley Watkins always pushing and shoving that is his game Rocky doesn’t fall over for nothing have you seen the nick of him ?

Watch Watkins at the second goal he is pushing and shoving our defenders before the ball is delivered should have been addressed by a poor Ref

As others have said soft but if that is Tavernier ‘ penalty to The Rangers’

[Donegal Hibby]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001qr27/sportscene-premiership-highlights-202324-16092023

8mins in. I refuse to believe anybody who has watched any amount of football thinks thats a foul.

NM saying he thinks it should've been a foul means nothing. Had he seen a replay of it when he said it, or just what he saw at the game? I listened to Barry Robson on the radio on the way back from the game say that there wasn't much between Hearts and Aberdeen, but the highlights and reports say something very different. I've seen Michael Beale try to explain why Rangers are actually doing well, but he's talking *****. Managers back their team, as they should, but they're not always right.

I thought it was a foul at the time and having looked at it a few times since I still think it's a foul . Do I think it's soft , absolutely though going by the amount of football I watch imo that would generally be given in favour of the defender tbh . As I said we see in games regularly the attacker jumping with the keeper with little contact and normally the keeper will get the decision in his favour too.

I seem to remember Sevco getting a penalty against us at ER for the softest of contacts , sevco player went down like a bag of tatties too . Colak or something like that . remember it ? . If what happened to Rocky happened to a Celtic or Sevco player against us 9 times out of 10 the referee would award a free kick to them . All we're asking as fans is some consistency when it comes to decisions in games . Old firm would get a free kick for that every day of the week imo .

[BILLYHIBS]

I thought it was a foul at the time and having looked at it a few times since I still think it's a foul . Do I think it's soft , absolutely though going by the amount of football I watch imo that would generally be given in favour of the defender tbh . As I said we see in games regularly the attacker jumping with the keeper with little contact and normally the keeper will get the decision in his favour too.

I seem to remember Sevco getting a penalty against us at ER for the softest of contacts , sevco player went down like a bag of tatties too . Colak or something like that . remember it ? . If what happened to Rocky happened to a Celtic or Sevco player against us 9 times out of 10 the referee would award a free kick to them . All we're asking as fans is some consistency when it comes to decisions in games . Old firm would get a free kick for that every day of the week imo .
Agree with Wookie Rocky should have just used his upper body strength and shielded the ball from the attacker using his bahooky and strength in his legs not just falling over at the slightest of touches

Rocky needs to learn if in doubt boot it out

Will be getting pelters this morning him and a few others

Still think it was a foul though

Refs in Scotland are shocking if you are not Celtic or The Rangers

[Donegal Hibby]

Agree with Wookie Rocky should have just used his upper body strength and shielded the ball from the attacker using his bahooky and strength in his legs not just falling over at the slightest of touches

Rocky needs to learn if in doubt boot it out

Will be getting pelters this morning him and a few others

Still think it was a foul though

Refs in Scotland are shocking if you are not Celtic or The Rangers

Agree pretty much with that tbh BH . One thing I would say ( not trying to be controversial) is even if Rocky had put it out Into row Z which he probably should have done . The likely scenario was Killie would have launched it into our box from a throw- in anyhow and if we defended like we did on the corner there would possibly be a good chance they'd score anyhow. Defending must be alot better . If we had a man on the goalposts I think there's a fair chance he keeps it out too.
All ifs and buts I know.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Was Marley Watkins always pushing and shoving that is his game Rocky doesn’t fall over for nothing have you seen the nick of him ?

Watch Watkins at the second goal he is pushing and shoving our defenders before the ball is delivered should have been addressed by a poor Ref

As others have said soft but if that is Tavernier ‘ penalty to The Rangers’

Rocky clearly does fall over for nothing. He done it on Saturday and it ended up costing us 2 points.

That is never a foul.

[BILLYHIBS]

Agree pretty much with that tbh BH . One thing I would say ( not trying to be controversial) is even if Rocky had put it out Into row Z which he probably should have done . The likely scenario was Killie would have launched it into our box from a throw- in anyhow and if we defended like we did on the corner there would possibly be a good chance they'd score anyhow. Defending must be alot better . If we had a man on the goalposts I think there's a fair chance he keeps it out too.
All ifs and buts I know.

Now you are talking

I am an old school full back and we should always have men on each post

Zonal Schmonal !

How many goals have we lost because the posts are unguarded ?

[Since452]

Any iteration of our defence struggles other that last week against a piss poor Aberdeen. Harbottle must be knocking the new managers door down. I would be.

[BILLYHIBS]

Rocky clearly does fall over for nothing. He done it on Saturday and it ended up costing us 2 points.

That is never a foul.

He receives some sort of touch you can see it on Sportscene 8 minutes in

Are you saying he slipped or took a dive hoping for the best a la Porto ?

Some Refs give it some Refs don’t

Anyway it only results in a corner which we fail to defend and pay the price

NM said it was a foul that is good enough for me

[easty]

He receives some sort of touch you can see it on Sportscene 8 minutes in

Are you saying he slipped or took a dive hoping for the best a la Porto ?

Some Refs give it some Refs don’t

Anyway it only results in a corner which we fail to defend and pay the price

NM said it was a foul that is good enough for me

I'm nae referee, but I don't think the rule is that you're entitled to a freekick if the opposition player touches you?

No doubt in my mind at all that he dived. He's tried to do what Porteous was good at, but you only get a foul for that when you make it look like you've been fouled. You wait til they come into the back of you, or you back into them and tangle your legs and go down. You dinnae feel someones hand graze your shoulder then collapse your legs in a heap and try some breakdancing on the ground. Embarrassingly bad.

[HoboHarry]

Now you are talking

I am an old school full back and we should always have men on each post

Zonal Schmonal !

How many goals have we lost because the posts are unguarded ?

You'd have been my kind of full back. Two full backs and a galloot of a centre half that booted anything that moved 4 feet into the air while I obviously played the elegant sweeper role. Martin Buchan-esque. :greengrin

[BILLYHIBS]

I'm nae referee, but I don't think the rule is that you're entitled to a freekick if the opposition player touches you?

No doubt in my mind at all that he dived. He's tried to do what Porteous was good at, but you only get a foul for that when you make it look like you've been fouled. You wait til they come into the back of you, or you back into them and tangle your legs and go down. You dinnae feel someones hand graze your shoulder then collapse your legs in a heap and try some breakdancing on the ground. Embarrassingly bad.

As said above definitive shove in the back from Marley Watkins who proceeded to make his way into the box and shove and jostle all our defenders awaiting the impending cross

It’s what he does

[easty]

As said above definitive shove in the back from Marley Watkins who proceeded to make his way into the box and shove and jostle all our defenders awaiting the impending cross

It’s what he does

:faf::aok:

[flash]

As said above definitive shove in the back from Marley Watkins who proceeded to make his way into the box and shove and jostle all our defenders awaiting the impending cross

It’s what he does

Not so much.

[BILLYHIBS]

Just spoke to ma bro Rocky and he says it was a definite shove it was why he went down could not believe the blind Ref never gave it 😀

[Donegal Hibby]

Now you are talking

I am an old school full back and we should always have men on each post

Zonal Schmonal !

How many goals have we lost because the posts are unguarded ?

Probably quite a few . Definitely one on Saturday , a man on the post and he clears that imo .

[Donegal Hibby]

I enjoyed this article on our game even though there was mistake's made by our players I think there's a lot of positives we can take from Saturday's game too.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/tactics-zone-montgomery-brings-his-mariners-plan-a-to-hibs-4339873

[Donegal Hibby]

I'm nae referee, but I don't think the rule is that you're entitled to a freekick if the opposition player touches you?

No doubt in my mind at all that he dived. He's tried to do what Porteous was good at, but you only get a foul for that when you make it look like you've been fouled. You wait til they come into the back of you, or you back into them and tangle your legs and go down. You dinnae feel someones hand graze your shoulder then collapse your legs in a heap and try some breakdancing on the ground. Embarrassingly bad.

Surprised that your so adamant it's not a foul tbh . I've watched lots of games in Scotland and England over the years were the defender makes no effort to play the ball and basically wait on a striker to make contact usually it's been soft though most times the defender goes down and gets a free kick .

All defenders go down easy in this scenario and most get a free kick . What the Hibs manager said was on the money in that he should have been stronger though he was nudged / pushed enough to knock him off balance and as to his breakdancing he was merely trying to clear the ball while on the ground.

How many decisions over the years have went against us when the contacts been at a minimum like duks penalty for instance.

[BILLYHIBS]

Surprised that your so adamant it's not a foul tbh . I've watched lots of games in Scotland and England over the years were the defender makes no effort to play the ball and basically wait on a striker to make contact usually it's been soft though most times the defender goes down and gets a free kick .

All defenders go down easy in this scenario and most get a free kick . What the Hibs manager said was on the money in that he should have been stronger though he was nudged / pushed enough to knock him off balance and as to his breakdancing he was merely trying to clear the ball while on the ground.

How many decisions over the years have went against us when the contacts been at a minimum like duks penalty for instance.

If that happened at the other end ….freekick to Killie !

Guaranteed

[tamig]

I'm persisting with it because 9 out of 10 that would go in the defenders favour ,it's just the same as when a striker jumps with the goalie even if there's minimum contact it normally goes in favour of the goalie and he gets a free kick .

The Hibs manager summed it up perfectly In Rocky should have been stronger but there was a nudge that put him off balance . If that had been tavernier or Carl Vickers the likely out come would have been a free kick given in all honesty.

As to the referee not falling for it , he didn't actually fall for to many decisions involving Hibs tbh . From the the incident at the start when the killie player tries scythe Boyle which should have been a booking , to Doidge getting knee'd in the face which can only be described as dangerous play and the killie player gets off without even a booking, Boyle getting booked when he clearly pulls out of the tackle and miller booked for a perfectly good tackle . I don't think the referee got many decisions right tbh in what was an absolutely shocking performance from him the whole game.

If you think it wasn't a foul that's fine Easty your entitled to your opinion though mines is I've seen similar incident's in games were defender's and keepers get freekicks for similar contact.

It was poor from Rocky. He’s worse than Porto at trying to buy fouls. It caught up with him on Saturday and he needs to learn from it sharpish. Or he’ll not be around the first team squad much longer.

[JimBHibees]

It was poor from Rocky. He’s worse than Porto at trying to buy fouls. It caught up with him on Saturday and he needs to learn from it sharpish. Or he’ll not be around the first team squad much longer.

Also think Lewis Miller needs to cut that out his game

[Donegal Hibby]

It was poor from Rocky. He’s worse than Porto at trying to buy fouls. It caught up with him on Saturday and he needs to learn from it sharpish. Or he’ll not be around the first team squad much longer.

Rocky should have put the ball out though I often see defender's shield the ball and wait for the striker to make contact , doesn't matter how little contact there is normally the defender will go down and 9/10 times a free kick is awarded. There was contact on Rocky and a foul should have been given IMO though let's be honest here in the fact that the referee was awful and most of the decisions went against us while he let them off repeatedly with some cynical fouls ..

As to Rocky needing to learn I'd agree there's things he can improve on and learn from though at 23 he's time on his side to do so . As to him getting blamed for the two goals my own opinion is there's a lot of other players that are just as much to blame for the two goals as Rocky is TBH . Another thing I was disappointed in was our two goal lead lasted all of something like 2 minutes . We repeatedly gave the ball away far to easy instead of having abit of possession and trying to control the game for 10 or 15 minutes after we scored the 2nd .

[easty]

Surprised that your so adamant it's not a foul tbh . I've watched lots of games in Scotland and England over the years were the defender makes no effort to play the ball and basically wait on a striker to make contact usually it's been soft though most times the defender goes down and gets a free kick .

All defenders go down easy in this scenario and most get a free kick . What the Hibs manager said was on the money in that he should have been stronger though he was nudged / pushed enough to knock him off balance and as to his breakdancing he was merely trying to clear the ball while on the ground.

How many decisions over the years have went against us when the contacts been at a minimum like duks penalty for instance.

I don’t understand how you can use Duks penalty, which we all know was never a foul, as an example as to why the dive by Rocky was actually a foul?? Because of previous bad decisions, we should get a bad decision too?

[Donegal Hibby]

I don’t understand how you can use Duks penalty, which we all know was never a foul, as an example as to why the dive by Rocky was actually a foul?? Because of previous bad decisions, we should get a bad decision too?

It was given though wasn't it ? . Again 9 times out of 10 when a defender is challenged from behind even if the contact is soft and the defender goes down there's a free kick awarded . Goalkeepers also get the vast majority of decision's when the contacts soft , seen it any times in games .

Rocky should have been stronger but there was contact in a nudge or a slight push which knocked him off balance even the Hibs manager has said this .

No I'm not saying because of previous bad decisions we should get them though if that happened to an old firm player against us he will get a free kick for it . If Rocky's dived as you say and it's the correct decision then why's this given then ?
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/scottish-premiership/12677360/rangers-win-penalty-at-easter-road-against-hibernian

[Victor]

It was given though wasn't it ? . Again 9 times out of 10 when a defender is challenged from behind even if the contact is soft and the defender goes down there's a free kick awarded . Goalkeepers also get the vast majority of decision's when the contacts soft , seen it any times in games .

Rocky should have been stronger but there was contact in a nudge or a slight push which knocked him off balance even the Hibs manager has said this .

No I'm not saying because of previous bad decisions we should get them though if that happened to an old firm player against us he will get a free kick for it . If Rocky's dived as you say and it's the correct decision then why's this given then ?
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/scottish-premiership/12677360/rangers-win-penalty-at-easter-road-against-hibernian

Agree. I dont think Rocky would have gone down without there being contact. I thought he was fouled while watching it and have not seen anything since to make me think differently.

[easty]

It was given though wasn't it ? . Again 9 times out of 10 when a defender is challenged from behind even if the contact is soft and the defender goes down there's a free kick awarded . Goalkeepers also get the vast majority of decision's when the contacts soft , seen it any times in games .

Rocky should have been stronger but there was contact in a nudge or a slight push which knocked him off balance even the Hibs manager has said this .

No I'm not saying because of previous bad decisions we should get them though if that happened to an old firm player against us he will get a free kick for it . If Rocky's dived as you say and it's the correct decision then why's this given then ?
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/scottish-premiership/12677360/rangers-win-penalty-at-easter-road-against-hibernian

I don’t know why you keep referring to goalkeepers. There was no keeper involved in the Rocky dive. Keepers often get too much protection, fine, but irrelevant here.

Again though, just like the Duk one, you’re trying to justify Rocky diving by giving an example of a bad decision that was given.

Are you saying you think the penalty in the link you’ve just posted was a foul, and pen was the correct decision?

If we lose a penalty this week to a similar “foul”, you’ll be fine with that cos sometimes they’re given?

[Hiber-nation]

Agree. I dont think Rocky would have gone down without there being contact. I thought he was fouled while watching it and have not seen anything since to make me think differently.

I saw it from the other end of the ground and it looked like a really poor attempt to win a foul at the time. TV evidence confirmed that.

[BILLYHIBS]

Used to boil ma piss every time Porto attempted it sometimes even diving on the ball nine times out of ten getting away with it was cheating walking a thin line and was going to bite him on the bum

My gut on Saturday told me it’s a foul but agree we need to cut out going to ground happening too often in the modern game especially players holding their head when there was obviously no contact

I thought Miller was fine first half Saturday second half he kept giving the ball away and caught in possession

[Paulie Walnuts]

Agree. I dont think Rocky would have gone down without there being contact. I thought he was fouled while watching it and have not seen anything since to make me think differently.

I don’t think he would have gone down with no contact either. I don’t think there’s any debate about their being contact. It’s absolutely nowhere near enough for a foul though and despite the fact there was contact, he’s dived and it’s cost us big time.

[Donegal Hibby]

I don’t know why you keep referring to goalkeepers. There was no keeper involved in the Rocky dive. Keepers often get too much protection, fine, but irrelevant here.

Again though, just like the Duk one, you’re trying to justify Rocky diving by giving an example of a bad decision that was given.

Are you saying you think the penalty in the link you’ve just posted was a foul, and pen was the correct decision?

If we lose a penalty this week to a similar “foul”, you’ll be fine with that cos sometimes they’re given?

I keep referring to keepers because like defender's in Rocky's situation 9 times out of 10 they get the decision even if the contact is soft . It doesn't matter what I think the facts are Duk went down with less contact than Rocky got and Colak felt the slightest of contacts and went down even more theatrically than Rocky. End result Penalty Huns ! .

Some of you are saying there's contact and Rocky's dived . If there's contact and it's put Rocky Off balance its a foul Imo..If the same situation happens against the old Firm they'd get a foul for it . You know they would.

Looking at the match facts we had 4 players booked to killies 5 and yet the foul count was 8 fouls for us and 16 for Killie and two of the bookings we got were ridiculous ( Boyle & Miller ) and yet Boyle is nearly cleaned out at the start and Doidge knee'd in the face which Imo warranted a yellow and a red card .
Bad refereeing was the result of Rocky not getting a freekick imo . I think 100% Rocky was fouled as did the Hibs manager which is good enough for me btw . 👍

[BILLYHIBS]

Noticed Kyle Magennis flying into tackles and bouncing back up like a spring lamb 😬

[Paulie Walnuts]

I keep referring to keepers because like defender's in Rocky's situation 9 times out of 10 they get the decision even if the contact is soft . It doesn't matter what I think the facts are Duk went down with less contact than Rocky got and Colak felt the slightest of contacts and went down even more theatrically than Rocky. End result Penalty Huns ! .

Some of you are saying there's contact and Rocky's dived . If there's contact and it's put Rocky Off balance its a foul Imo..If the same situation happens against the old Firm they'd get a foul for it . You know they would.

Looking at the match facts we had 4 players booked to killies 5 and yet the foul count was 8 fouls for us and 16 for Killie and two of the bookings we got were ridiculous ( Boyle & Miller ) and yet Boyle is nearly cleaned out at the start and Doidge knee'd in the face which Imo warranted a yellow and a red card .
Bad refereeing was the result of Rocky not getting a freekick imo . I think 100% Rocky was fouled as did the Hibs manager which is good enough for me btw . 👍

Contact that puts you off balance doesn’t equate to a foul or else it would essentially be a complete non contact sport. If that level of contact is enough to put Rocky off balance then he shouldn’t play for Hibs again as he’ll be an absolute liability spending more time on the ground than upright.

It didn’t put him off balance though. His ‘balance’ went when he dived to try and win a foul.

[Donegal Hibby]

Contact that puts you off balance doesn’t equate to a foul or else it would essentially be a complete non contact sport. If that level of contact is enough to put Rocky off balance then he shouldn’t play for Hibs again as he’ll be an absolute liability spending more time on the ground than upright.

It also absolutely didn’t put him off balance. His ‘balance’ went when he dived to try and win a foul.

These types of fouls are given regularly in football both in the defender and in the goalkeepers favour . If your bumped /pushed/.nudged call it what you will to gain the ball while putting an opponent off balance then it's a foul . Rocky didn't just dive and lose his balance without contact being made in not knowing somebody was behind him .

The other thing is and you've said Rocky cost us dear . Rocky didn't cost us anything apart from a corner that we defended extremely badly and some of our other players were at fault with. Even near the end of the match O'Dea I think it was found himself totally unmarked and fired wide Rocky's fault too ? Or just bad defending on our part again? .

The two goals we lost Rocky did indeed make mistakes with though there was more than him at fault which seems to be getting overlooked tbh

[CapitalGreen]

Noticed Kyle Magennis flying into tackles and bouncing back up like a spring lamb 😬

Could have done with him in our midfield during the 2nd half when he won more tackles than our midfield made in the whole match.

[BILLYHIBS]

Could have done with him in our midfield during the 2nd half when he won more tackles than our midfield made in the whole match.

👍

[Paulie Walnuts]

These types of fouls are given regularly in football both in the defender and in the goalkeepers favour . If your bumped /pushed/.nudged call it what you will to gain the ball while putting an opponent off balance then it's a foul . Rocky didn't just dive and lose his balance without contact being made in not knowing somebody was behind him .

The other thing is and you've said Rocky cost us dear . Rocky didn't cost us anything apart from a corner that we defended extremely badly and some of our other players were at fault with. Even near the end of the match O'Dea I think it was found himself totally unmarked and fired wide Rocky's fault too ? Or just bad defending on our part again? .

The two goals we lost Rocky did indeed make mistakes with though there was more than him at fault which seems to be getting overlooked tbh

“Rocky didn’t cost us anything other than a corner” to “the two goals we lost Rocky did indeed make mistakes” in one paragraph. I think that says it all about how much you’re trying to defend the indefensible.

And being bumped isn’t a foul purely because you’ve been bumped. You say 9/10 times they’re given, but they’re not. Jeggo bumps into the defenders back when he wins the header before our first with more force than the Killie attacker touched Rocky, that was never a foul either. Boyle made contact and knocked the Killie player off balance/to the ground in the build up to Ventes goal, again though, that doesn’t make it a foul. Attackers make contact with defenders all the time, they’re not fouls 9/10 or else we’d rarely have the ball in play. Attackers bump into defenders all the time when challenging for the ball.

[Mon Dieu4]

These types of fouls are given regularly in football both in the defender and in the goalkeepers favour . If your bumped /pushed/.nudged call it what you will to gain the ball while putting an opponent off balance then it's a foul . Rocky didn't just dive and lose his balance without contact being made in not knowing somebody was behind him .

The other thing is and you've said Rocky cost us dear . Rocky didn't cost us anything apart from a corner that we defended extremely badly and some of our other players were at fault with. Even near the end of the match O'Dea I think it was found himself totally unmarked and fired wide Rocky's fault too ? Or just bad defending on our part again? .

The two goals we lost Rocky did indeed make mistakes with though there was more than him at fault which seems to be getting overlooked tbh

It was a game where the ref could be described as erratic at best, he was also about 3cm away from the linesman who could see it wasn't a foul, it should never have been left to chance and he should have smashed the ball out of play

[Not In The Know]

Agree. I dont think Rocky would have gone down without there being contact. I thought he was fouled while watching it and have not seen anything since to make me think differently.

Almost tripping over the ball didn't help his case.

[Donegal Hibby]

It was a game where the ref could be described as erratic at best, he was also about 3cm away from the linesman who could see it wasn't a foul, it should never have been left to chance and he should have smashed the ball out of play

Though even watching English football I've often seen in games the defender blocking the attacker from getting the ball and winning a foul of the striker sometimes they are stonewall fouls and some are soft which Rocky's would have been though still a foul all the same . I mentioned quite a few times that they are given 9 times out 10 which they normally are tbh .

The start of the match summed up the referee performance imo when Boyle was galloping forward and the killie player couldn't cope and just decided to clean him out . Thankfully he never connected probably with Boyle and he managed to stay on his feet . Referee who wasn't far away allowed play to continue though took no action afterwards.The only thing the referee was consistent in was how badly he refereed that game . I do agree Rocky should have put the ball out though.

[easty]

Though even watching English football I've often seen in games the defender blocking the attacker from getting the ball and winning a foul of the striker sometimes they are stonewall fouls and some are soft which Rocky's would have been though still a foul all the same . I mentioned quite a few times that they are given 9 times out 10 which they normally are tbh .

The start of the match summed up the referee performance imo when Boyle was galloping forward and the killie player couldn't cope and just decided to clean him out . Thankfully he never connected probably with Boyle and he managed to stay on his feet . Referee who wasn't far away allowed play to continue though took no action afterwards.The only thing the referee was consistent in was how badly he refereed that game . I do agree Rocky should have put the ball out though.

You're right, you have mentioned that 9 times out of 10 they're normally given. 17 times out of 26 people just make up stats based on no research :na na:

The Boyle decision, the Doidge assault, and any other decision you believe the ref got wrong are independent of the fact he got it right when Rocky dived.

[Donegal Hibby]

You're right, you have mentioned that 9 times out of 10 they're normally given. 17 times out of 26 people just make up stats based on no research :na na:

The Boyle decision, the Doidge assault, and any other decision you believe the ref got wrong are independent of the fact he got it right when Rocky dived.

If the same referee was involved in the same incident involving an old firm player he'd almost certainly gave a foul for a push . As fans we all know this . Referee got very little right the whole match including Rocky's foul which the Hibs manager also has a different opinion on to yours . Sounds like you think the ref had decent game too!.

[BILLYHIBS]

You're right, you have mentioned that 9 times out of 10 they're normally given. 17 times out of 26 people just make up stats based on no research :na na:

The Boyle decision, the Doidge assault, and any other decision you believe the ref got wrong are independent of the fact he got it right when Rocky dived.

‘ Rocky Bushiri is a big guy he’s been KNOCKED in the back and lost his balance but he knows he should have put the ball out Instead he stumbles on it ‘

Nick Montgomery

Happy to go with our highly experienced Manager’s version of the incident

Time to move on to Saturday

[Bridge hibs]

‘ Rocky Bushiri is a big guy he’s been KNOCKED in the back and lost his balance but he knows he should have put the ball out Instead he stumbles on it ‘

Neil Montgomery

Happy to go with our highly experienced Manager’s version of the incident

Time to move on to SaturdayDid Nick call himself Neil ? 😃

[BILLYHIBS]

Did Nick call himself Neil ? 😃

Sorted

👍

😂

[easty]

If the same referee was involved in the same incident involving an old firm player he'd almost certainly gave a foul for a push . As fans we all know this . Referee got very little right the whole match including Rocky's foul which the Hibs manager also has a different opinion on to yours . Sounds like you think the ref had decent game too!.

What have I said that suggests I think the ref has a good game?

Please do quote me.

[easty]

‘ Rocky Bushiri is a big guy he’s been KNOCKED in the back and lost his balance but he knows he should have put the ball out Instead he stumbles on it ‘

Nick Montgomery

Happy to go with our highly experienced Manager’s version of the incident

Time to move on to Saturday

It was about 2 weeks ago that everything our manager says was a load of David Brent *****, now everything the new one says has to be true? It cannae just be a new manager backing a player?

[BILLYHIBS]

It was about 2 weeks ago that everything our manager says was a load of David Brent *****, now everything the new one says has to be true? It cannae just be a new manager backing a player?

Was quick to blame Lewis for the first saying he should have tucked inside IIRC

[jacomo]

Noticed Kyle Magennis flying into tackles and bouncing back up like a spring lamb 😬


Bloody typical eh?

Should have been a good player for us.

[Since452]

‘ Rocky Bushiri is a big guy he’s been KNOCKED in the back and lost his balance but he knows he should have put the ball out Instead he stumbles on it ‘

Nick Montgomery

Happy to go with our highly experienced Manager’s version of the incident

Time to move on to Saturday

Is that throwing players under the bus and blaming everyone but himself? :greengrin Amazing the difference a couple of weeks can make.

[Bridge hibs]

The grass could be greener on the other side soon

Kilmarnock chairman, Billy Bowie, has revealed plans to rip up their plastic pitch.
But the move won't happen until at least 2024.

Bowie has handed manager, Derek Mcinnes, the biggest transfer budget in their 153-year history and, looking further ahead, he wants to boost their prospects by returning to grass.

"We can't do anything about it until plans for a new training ground are submitted, which should be done by the end of next month," he said.

"It'll cost around £2-million to build it and to replace the playing surface. So we'll probably have to continue with the svnthetic turf for another two years until that's ready."

Killie's players have trained on the artificial pitch since it was installed in 2014 but, although it's frequently been criticised by opposing players and fans, Bowie insists it's been popular with the locals.

[BILLYHIBS]

Is that throwing players under the bus and blaming everyone but himself? :greengrin Amazing the difference a couple of weeks can make.

Don’t think he is throwing anyone under the bus there Rocky made a mistake simples

Will be interesting to see if he starts on Saturday ?

[Donegal Hibby]

The grass could be greener on the other side soon

Kilmarnock chairman, Billy Bowie, has revealed plans to rip up their plastic pitch.
But the move won't happen until at least 2024.

Bowie has handed manager, Derek Mcinnes, the biggest transfer budget in their 153-year history and, looking further ahead, he wants to boost their prospects by returning to grass.

"We can't do anything about it until plans for a new training ground are submitted, which should be done by the end of next month," he said.

"It'll cost around £2-million to build it and to replace the playing surface. So we'll probably have to continue with the svnthetic turf for another two years until that's ready."

Killie's players have trained on the artificial pitch since it was installed in 2014 but, although it's frequently been criticised by opposing players and fans, Bowie insists it's been popular with the locals.

Two more years of playing on that surface :worried: . I suppose the positive way to look at it is ' it can't possibly get much worse could it ?🤔