View Full Version : Everton bought by American company
PatHead
15-09-2023, 09:18 AM
Everton have been sold to a USA based company. Wonder if their fortunes will now improve?
easty
15-09-2023, 09:24 AM
They'll need to get rid of Dyche to change anything.
Mick O'Rourke
15-09-2023, 09:25 AM
Everton have been sold to a USA based company. Wonder if their fortunes will now improve?
Yes it appears to be a confectionary/dairy company that specialises in various Toffee flavoured ice creams and yoghurts
So Everton might get a new nickname :greengrin
overdrive
15-09-2023, 09:50 AM
Bought by another multi-club group. They also own Hertha Berlin, Genoa, Standard Liege, Red Star (the French club, not Belgrade) and Vasco da Gama and part-own Sevilla and Melbourne Victory. Seems to be the way things are going.
04Sauzee
15-09-2023, 09:58 AM
Bought by another multi-club group. They also own Hertha Berlin, Genoa, Standard Liege, Red Star (the French club, not Belgrade) and Vasco da Gama and part-own Sevilla and Melbourne Victory. Seems to be the way things are going.
I'm sure Chelsea are looking to do the exact same, not sure what Clubs they are wanting to tie in with but they want to be bigger than the City Group.
nonshinyfinish
15-09-2023, 09:59 AM
Bought by another multi-club group. They also own Hertha Berlin, Genoa, Standard Liege, Red Star (the French club, not Belgrade) and Vasco da Gama and part-own Sevilla and Melbourne Victory. Seems to be the way things are going.
Don't know about the other clubs, but their ownership of Hertha has been a s***show – chucked a fair amount of money around, but the team regressed and were eventually relegated last season.
CapitalGreen
15-09-2023, 10:07 AM
Don't know about the other clubs, but their ownership of Hertha has been a s***show – chucked a fair amount of money around, but the team regressed and were eventually relegated last season.
Standard Liege and Sevilla a s*** show too, protests at both clubs recently. Most Everton fans I’ve seen on twitter think they’ve now exited the frying pan and entered the fire.
It looks like they’ve moved from owners who didn’t invest money to owners who asset strip.
Alex Trager
15-09-2023, 10:10 AM
Were they not just owned by someone (or a company) with massive finances anyway?
worcesterhibby
15-09-2023, 10:11 AM
Chelsea have been relatively crap since they had a huge new injection of cash and new owners, so it gaurentees you nothing in that league. Everton have already spent mind boggling amounts of money on players and are still rubbish. The trouble with investing Billions into a Premier League club in England is that there are plenty of other clubs having billions invested too. City, Utd, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea, Villa, Liverpool, Newcastle are all miles ahead of them as far as delevloping their club is concerned.. so even with a massive investment and improved new owners the best they can do is come 9th and that's if they can get past well run clubs like West Ham, Brighton and Brentford. I predict Everton won't be a top half of the table club in the next 5 years. Is 11th and no European football worth all the effort for an investor, unless they are really there to suck the club dry, rather than improve it ?
Baader
15-09-2023, 11:00 AM
They'll need to get rid of Dyche to change anything.
It's only because of him they are still Premier League! The squad there is garbage. Utter garbage.
This lot potentially sound worse than the previous owner, if that's possible. They'll need to hold on to Dyche until the club moves rapidly in the right direction...
Keith_M
15-09-2023, 11:09 AM
Is it the finance issue that's causing delays with the new stadium?
ScottB
15-09-2023, 11:57 AM
I think fans at some of the other 777 clubs have been protesting against them etc.
Might be out the frying pan and into the fire here.
Chorley Hibee
15-09-2023, 12:16 PM
Standard Liege and Sevilla a s*** show too, protests at both clubs recently. Most Everton fans I’ve seen on twitter think they’ve now exited the frying pan and entered the fire.
It looks like they’ve moved from owners who didn’t invest money to owners who asset strip.
Moshiri invested over £750m in Everton.
It's more how it was wasted than a lack of investment.
overdrive
15-09-2023, 12:20 PM
Moshiri invested over £750m in Everton.
It's more how it was wasted than a lack of investment.
Was Moshiri not just a front man for Usmanov? Moshiri was rumoured to just be the guy who’s name it was in. Usmanov providing the funding and pulling the strings.
NAE NOOKIE
15-09-2023, 12:33 PM
I think fans at some of the other 777 clubs have been protesting against them etc.
Might be out the frying pan and into the fire here.
Watched the guy who does a lot of the Bramley Moor Dock flyover videos ( Mr Drone ) talking about this last night. The whole thing was giving him the fear and when he went through the list of clubs 777 own almost without exception every single one of them regressed, especially financially, since they were taken over.
I thought England had a fit and proper owner test. Though that test doesn't seem to take morality into account the least it could do is determine whether the finances fall into line ... with the history this lot have in just a few years they don't seem in the slightest a fit and proper owner for any football club.
# Save the Toffees :confused:
Pretty Boy
15-09-2023, 12:39 PM
I'm sure Chelsea are looking to do the exact same, not sure what Clubs they are wanting to tie in with but they want to be bigger than the City Group.
There was a very interesting article in the Guardian recently re Chelsea and investment in European football in general.
Basically it was saying that there is a group of American businessmen who believe European football is being undersold and is capable of turning over even bigger sums. The viewpoint comes from them having been used to the ultra regulated world of US sports with drafts, salary caps, centralised sponsorship and merchandise deals etc.
The view is that guys like Boehly really don't care about success at clubs like Chelsea. It's all about becoming player farms and a trading vehicle for transfers. Obviously a successful team on the park potentially adds value but if Chelsea finish 6th, buy 3 players for £100M combined and sell them for £250M then it's job done regardless of the disappointing league season. The more clubs you have in a portfolio, the more levels you can carry out these transactions. At Hibs you can turn £100K into £1.5M, at Everton £40M into £80M and at Chelsea £80M into £150M.
I'm not totally on board with that argument but when you look at the portfolios of some of these groups the argument it's just a 'vanity project' or a 'boyhood dream' doesn't stand up to scrutiny either. I'm always sceptical of these claims, very rich people didn't get very rich and don't stay very rich by gifting money out of vanity or on childhood dreams.
Don't know about the other clubs, but their ownership of Hertha has been a s***show – chucked a fair amount of money around, but the team regressed and were eventually relegated last season.
Hope the same happens to Everton.
No particular reason other than they have bust my coupon multiple times.
But using that login there would be no teams playing, ha
Chorley Hibee
15-09-2023, 01:18 PM
Was Moshiri not just a front man for Usmanov? Moshiri was rumoured to just be the guy who’s name it was in. Usmanov providing the funding and pulling the strings.
I think that's what the current investigations into Everton are geared towards.
Joe6-2
15-09-2023, 02:54 PM
I fear for football, money should improve things but it seems to be having the totally opposite effect
heretoday
15-09-2023, 03:27 PM
777 sounds like a Glasgow taxi firm run by gangsters.
Keith_M
15-09-2023, 04:31 PM
Two questions:
How many EPL/EFL clubs have been bought over by Yanks?
Of those, how many have gone on to be successful under that ownership?
plhibs
15-09-2023, 05:00 PM
Weird, a store opened a couple of doors from my local pub called, 777Vape, you can't see through the windows from outside.
Hibbyradge
15-09-2023, 05:49 PM
Regardless of how much money the new owners might have, there's nothing they can do to improve the squad before the New Year* by which time it could be too late.
*Of course, they could sack Dyche.
MKHIBEE
16-09-2023, 08:08 AM
The club was bought as an “investment”. It will end in tears.
MWHIBBIES
16-09-2023, 08:10 AM
They'll need to get rid of Dyche to change anything.
Good lord, definitely not. He is the only thing they've got going for them.
heretoday
16-09-2023, 10:33 AM
Good lord, definitely not. He is the only thing they've got going for them.
I'm not sure the majority of Toffees would agree. Pickford's incredible saves are what's kept them up so far.
Donegal Hibby
16-09-2023, 10:51 AM
I'm not sure the majority of Toffees would agree. Pickford's incredible saves are what's kept them up so far.
I agree , toffee fans here wanted him gone after the season finished . Most said his football isn't great to watch and they should have went for a better manager.
MWHIBBIES
16-09-2023, 10:57 AM
I'm not sure the majority of Toffees would agree. Pickford's incredible saves are what's kept them up so far.
That's true. Pickford and Dyche.
jacomo
16-09-2023, 11:05 AM
Was Moshiri not just a front man for Usmanov? Moshiri was rumoured to just be the guy who’s name it was in. Usmanov providing the funding and pulling the strings.
Of course he was. It was quite clearly Usmanov behind the whole thing. When he was sanctioned, the money dried up.
Hibbyradge
16-09-2023, 11:44 AM
I can't see them getting anything from Arsenal tomorrow or Brentford next Saturday and Villa away in the Cup looks beyond them too.
If Dyche manages to survive that lot, they've got Luton and Bournemouth at home before their traditional battering off Liverpool at Anfield.
I'll be very surprised if Dyche is still manager at the end of next month. He'll be moved on sooner rather than later anyway.
jacomo
16-09-2023, 03:33 PM
I can't see them getting anything from Arsenal tomorrow or Brentford next Saturday and Villa away in the Cup looks beyond them too.
If Dyche manages to survive that lot, they've got Luton and Bournemouth at home before their traditional battering off Liverpool at Anfield.
I'll be very surprised if Dyche is still manager at the end of next month. He'll be moved on sooner rather than later anyway.
Maybe this is the season that Everton’s incredible unbroken run in the top flight (bettered only by Arsenal I believe) comes to an end.
That’s what you get for dealing with the devil. No sympathy.
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