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Nailsea Hibby
04-09-2023, 06:54 PM
Taken from BBC
"A deal has been agreed for A-League-winning head coach Nick Montgomery to leave Central Coast Mariners and become Hibernian manager, with personal terms being discussed with the 41-year-old former Sheffield United midfielder."
Hope there's no truth in it
Potty78
04-09-2023, 07:03 PM
Taken from BBC
"A deal has been agreed for A-League-winning head coach Nick Montgomery to leave Central Coast Mariners and become Hibernian manager, with personal terms being discussed with the 41-year-old former Sheffield United midfielder."
Hope there's no truth in it
Why?
I was thinking he'd be one of the few we've been linked with that could unite fans as there's no baggage.
Disappointed to be wrong with that.
Most exciting one of all the names linked for me, Mon Nick!
mcohibs
04-09-2023, 07:12 PM
Taken from BBC
"A deal has been agreed for A-League-winning head coach Nick Montgomery to leave Central Coast Mariners and become Hibernian manager, with personal terms being discussed with the 41-year-old former Sheffield United midfielder."
Hope there's no truth in it
Got a link to that? Can’t see any article saying deal has been agreed, just that we are in talks.
Springbank
04-09-2023, 07:13 PM
Taken from BBC
"A deal has been agreed for A-League-winning head coach Nick Montgomery to leave Central Coast Mariners and become Hibernian manager, with personal terms being discussed with the 41-year-old former Sheffield United midfielder."
Hope there's no truth in it
This is the best appointment for a long long time
Let's see what you're saying come January nailsea
Most exciting one of all the names linked for me, Mon Nick!
Fresh, ambitious, spoken well of across the board. Can't wait if it's him.
If it were McInnes it would feel like wearing some Killie dudes cast off underscunders.
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Irish_Steve
04-09-2023, 07:14 PM
Anyone but bloody Malky Mackay
Nailsea Hibby
04-09-2023, 07:16 PM
Why?
Would like to see Lennon back, think we need someone who knows the scottish game.
Got a link to that? Can’t see any article saying deal has been agreed, just that we are in talks.
It is just repeating the Aussie Scout tweet from earlier that's been discuss on the Next Manager thread. Didn't really need a thread of its own.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/articles/cp3rj8d65dzo
Springbank
04-09-2023, 07:18 PM
Would like to see Lennon back, think we need someone who knows the scottish game.
Most people who win trophies in Scotland have no previous experience of Scottish football
Nailsea Hibby
04-09-2023, 07:18 PM
Got a link to that? Can’t see any article saying deal has been agreed, just that we are in talks.
Hibernian - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian) www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian
Pretty Boy
04-09-2023, 07:21 PM
It's a risk but then so would Lennon, Gray or Robinson have been.
He wouldn't have been my choice purely because I had never heard of him until about 5 days ago. Thankfully it's not my job to make such decisions as I'm just a punter.
I'll give him a fair crack though and promise it will be at least 3 games until I declare him either the Messiah or a flop.
Just Alf
04-09-2023, 07:25 PM
I was thinking he'd be one of the few we've been linked with that could unite fans as there's no baggage.
Disappointed to be wrong with that.
Most exciting one of all the names linked for me, Mon Nick!100% :agree:
Nailsea Hibby
04-09-2023, 07:25 PM
This is the best appointment for a long long time
Let's see what you're saying come January nailsea
Believe me nothing would make me happier if come January i was shouting how wrong i was if true and turns out for the best. GGTTH
Jim44
04-09-2023, 07:25 PM
Taken from BBC
"A deal has been agreed for A-League-winning head coach Nick Montgomery to leave Central Coast Mariners and become Hibernian manager, with personal terms being discussed with the 41-year-old former Sheffield United midfielder."
Hope there's no truth in it
Who’s your choice and why?
Vault Boy
04-09-2023, 07:26 PM
Delighted if this is the case.
Nailsea Hibby
04-09-2023, 07:27 PM
It is just repeating the Aussie Scout tweet from earlier that's been discuss on the Next Manager thread. Didn't really need a thread of its own.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/articles/cp3rj8d65dzo
Sorry wasn't aware already been posted.
I am liking the sound of this and it feels like an imaginative appointment. I hope it is true.
Gorebridge Hibb
04-09-2023, 07:30 PM
Delighted if this is the case.
Exactly. Just what we need. Great coach and top top guy.
CapitalGreen
04-09-2023, 07:31 PM
Would like to see Lennon back, think we need someone who knows the scottish game.
Our last 3 management teams all the knew the Scottish game very well.
Northernhibee
04-09-2023, 07:34 PM
Would like to see Lennon back, think we need someone who knows the scottish game.
Is he the one who left the club after something like two wins in sixteen having fallen out with almost everyone, then went to Celtic and finished second in a one horse race, blowing ten in a row in the process?
jeffers
04-09-2023, 07:38 PM
Our last 3 management teams all the knew the Scottish game very well.
We don’t need anyone who knows the Scottish game, just one who doesn’t underestimate it.
babahibs
04-09-2023, 07:38 PM
Is he the one who left the club after something like two wins in sixteen having fallen out with almost everyone, then went to Celtic and finished second in a one horse race, blowing ten in a row in the process?
That's him, winner though
SHODAN
04-09-2023, 07:38 PM
Here it come
GreenGray
04-09-2023, 07:39 PM
Would like to see Lennon back, think we need someone who knows the scottish game.
Can you tell me why you’d think that would make a difference? Plenty coaches know the Scottish game and have failed and vice versa.
It’s not a completely different mythical sport in Scotland
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Craig Levein is higher on my priority list than Neil Lennon.
eastmainsmsh
04-09-2023, 07:43 PM
Lennon knows club etc will back Monty hope this is right decision by club as need long term stability
GreenGray
04-09-2023, 07:43 PM
Craig Levein is higher on my priority list than Neil Lennon.
I’m the same, I’d rather have anyone but Lennon.
Other fans want Lennon before anyone else. Just shows how hard the board have it and the differing opinions people can have.
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S4uzee
04-09-2023, 07:44 PM
Underwhelmed …
Northernhibee
04-09-2023, 07:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XUoFb0xJl2M
If anyone doubts that Montgomery is the man, watch this. Remember how Jason Cummings career looked finished after he was punted from Dundee.
He's the man we need. #GetMontyDone
supermcginn
04-09-2023, 07:46 PM
Fingers crossed. Anyone but Lennon
HFC93
04-09-2023, 07:48 PM
Underwhelmed …
What realistic appointment would get you excited?
AlbertK86
04-09-2023, 07:53 PM
Is the BBC not just regurgitating a rumour from Oz ?
Since that Patrick at EEN said shortlist and still interviing.
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HoboHarry
04-09-2023, 07:53 PM
Taken from BBC
"A deal has been agreed for A-League-winning head coach Nick Montgomery to leave Central Coast Mariners and become Hibernian manager, with personal terms being discussed with the 41-year-old former Sheffield United midfielder."
Hope there's no truth in it
I hope there is.
Lee Marvin
04-09-2023, 07:55 PM
Is the BBC not just regurgitating a rumour from Oz ?
Since B.V. that Patrick at EEN said shortlist and still interviing.
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Yeah, this thread has no new news in it at all
Brightside
04-09-2023, 07:55 PM
Would like to see Lennon back, think we need someone who knows the scottish game.
Lennon is looking like a spoilt child all over TV right now. He will be nowhere near this club again.
Would like to see Lennon back, think we need someone who knows the scottish game.
Hope we’re not linked with Klopp or pep then cos they don’t know the Scottish game either
Unseen work
04-09-2023, 08:04 PM
I get the “needs to know the Scottish game” chat but look at our last couple of managers.
Maloney and Caldwell as his assistant
Johnson and McAllister as his assistant
All played in Scotland and will have a huge amount of knowledge about it but ultimately failed.
You could give loads of arguments for and against in fairness.
What I like about Montgomery is he went to a club most said not to go to, smallest budget and made it a success through man management and togetherness
Lots can be said about Maloney and Johnson, but I’m not sure man management and creating a positive environment was one.
Hopefully Montgomery reunites the team and club as a whole
Northernhibee
04-09-2023, 08:06 PM
I get the “needs to know the Scottish game” chat but look at our last couple of managers.
Maloney and Caldwell as his assistant
Johnson and McAllister as his assistant
All played in Scotland and will have a huge amount of knowledge about it but ultimately failed.
You could give loads of arguments for and against in fairness.
What I like about Montgomery is he went to a club most said not to go to, smallest budget and made it a success through man management and togetherness
Lots can be said about Maloney and Johnson, but I’m not sure man management and creating a positive environment was one.
Hopefully Montgomery reunites the team and club as a whole
He talks a bit like Stubbsy. Refreshingly straightforward, with a clear love of the squad he manages, and a clear vision on how the game should be played.
Also like Stubbs, he likes having a number of young players in the squad, and wants football to be played on the deck. Togetherness in the changing room is notable under both from what I've seen of CCM.
Get it done Hibs :greengrin
Smartie
04-09-2023, 08:07 PM
We don’t need anyone who knows the Scottish game, just one who doesn’t underestimate it.
We need a quick learner.
In an ideal world they’ll be adapting to a decent amount of European football next year too.
Unseen work
04-09-2023, 08:10 PM
He talks a bit like Stubbsy. Refreshingly straightforward, with a clear love of the squad he manages, and a clear vision on how the game should be played.
Also like Stubbs, he likes having a number of young players in the squad, and wants football to be played on the deck. Togetherness in the changing room is notable under both from what I've seen of CCM.
Get it done Hibs :greengrin
Yeah I actually said on another thread he reminded me of Stubbs, just very calm and clear in what he’s saying and think he would be very upfront and honest with the players
I’m the same as you just get him announced!🤣
Lancs Harp
04-09-2023, 08:17 PM
It's a risk but then so would Lennon, Gray or Robinson have been.
He wouldn't have been my choice purely because I had never heard of him until about 5 days ago. Thankfully it's not my job to make such decisions as I'm just a punter.
I'll give him a fair crack though and promise it will be at least 3 games until I declare him either the Messiah or a flop.
A bit where Im at to be honest. I'd never heard of him till about a week ago, despite having susequently learnt he played well over 300 games for Sheffield United and gained a couple of scottish under 21 caps (he was born in Leeds).
Also played for the wonderfully named Wollongong Wolves.
Good luck to the guy if he gets the gig. If he does well we'll all be happy.
greenlex
04-09-2023, 08:18 PM
I think it’s a bigger gamble than McInnes, Robinson or Kettlewell but I’m not making the decisions. Hope he’s a roaring success if he ends up in the hot seat.
Eyrie
04-09-2023, 08:28 PM
McInnes is the safe bet and my preference.
But Montgomery is second on my unofficial list and I'd be happy for him to get it.
Nicho87
04-09-2023, 08:37 PM
Far too risky
Did we not learn anything from signing unknown players to the league.
A manager from a lesser league just isn’t what hibs need
CapitalGreen
04-09-2023, 08:39 PM
Far too risky
Did we not learn anything from signing unknown players to the league.
A manager from a lesser league just isn’t what hibs need
What appointment isn’t risky?
B.H.F.C
04-09-2023, 08:40 PM
Far too risky
Did we not learn anything from signing unknown players to the league.
A manager from a lesser league just isn’t what hibs need
Plenty players who didn’t know the league before signing that have turned out to be good as well.
Whether they know the league or don’t, some will be good and some won’t and that goes for players, managers and coaches.
makaveli1875
04-09-2023, 08:41 PM
Don't know much about the guy but if it's him then let's see what he can do before writing him off .
Nicho87
04-09-2023, 08:41 PM
What appointment isn’t risky?
I totally agree
I just think this gives more risk than is necessary
Moulin Yarns
04-09-2023, 08:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XUoFb0xJl2M
If anyone doubts that Montgomery is the man, watch this. Remember how Jason Cummings career looked finished after he was punted from Dundee.
He's the man we need. #GetMontyDone
Are we wanting a garden make over? 😂
Greencore
04-09-2023, 08:43 PM
Monty, monty, monty, monty !
Nicho87
04-09-2023, 08:43 PM
Plenty players who didn’t know the league before signing that have turned out to be good as well.
Whether they know the league or don’t, some will be good and some won’t and that goes for players, managers and coaches.
I’m with you bhfc.
I just can’t help but think this is a feel of heckingbottom to it.
Don’t know why just my opinion
I’ve wanted from day one an experienced head with a background managing in Scotland. I think that’s where we need to go
Paulie Walnuts
04-09-2023, 08:47 PM
Meh. Wouldn’t have been my choice. Looks alright on paper, no more, no less imo.
S4uzee
04-09-2023, 08:49 PM
It was a massive relief when Johnson got sacked and I felt excited by who we could get in. Would be lying if I said I wasn’t a tad disappointed
Forza Fred
04-09-2023, 09:05 PM
Is the BBC not just regurgitating a rumour from Oz ?
Since that Patrick at EEN said shortlist and still interviing.
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Someone sends a Tweet, the Daily Record pounces on it, others follow….you know how it works.
Think everybody is getting a bit ahead of things.
Two things need to happen before Monte becomes Hibs manager.
1 Hibs need to offer him the job
2 Monte needs to accept the offer of the job.
Neither of which has yet happened as far as I am aware, and neither of which can be taken for granted.
It may well happen…or maybe it won’t, we just need to wait and see.
timewilltell
04-09-2023, 09:08 PM
Would like to see Lennon back, think we need someone who knows the scottish game.
Jeez, that old chestnut! Such an outdated view.
zitelli62
04-09-2023, 09:13 PM
I said at the time I hope hibs go foreign and I suppose in a Way they have either way I will support the manager whoever he.
Scooter
04-09-2023, 09:17 PM
Gives me tony Mowbray vibes. I'm excited, I hope it's him. McDermott knows him. Thoes who say hes not got knowledge of the scottish game. Im pretty sure hes trained lewis miller, Rowles Atkinson and devlin (all hearts), played for scotland u21s along side Marshall.He's also close to the like of Mike Whelan (ex man utd assistant), ange.
It's a risk but so is every appointment
Prof. Shaggy
04-09-2023, 09:24 PM
Gives me tony Mowbray vibes. I'm excited, I hope it's him. McDermott knows him. Thoes who say hes not got knowledge of the scottish game. Im pretty sure hes trained lewis miller, Rowles Atkinson and devlin (all hearts), played for scotland u21s along side Marshall.He's also close to the like of Mike Whelan (ex man utd assistant), ange.
It's a risk but so is every appointment
I'm pretty sure Lewis Miller hates the Hearts.:greengrin
Basildon Hibs
04-09-2023, 09:28 PM
Did he 'come across well'in his interview..??😁
mcohibs
04-09-2023, 09:34 PM
It was a massive relief when Johnson got sacked and I felt excited by who we could get in. Would be lying if I said I wasn’t a tad disappointed
Who were you expecting? I find rumours of this appointment a lot more exciting than Lennon, McInnes or Robinson tbh
An interesting article:
https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/nick-montgomery-central-coast-mariners-sheffield-united/
WhileTheChief..
04-09-2023, 09:39 PM
It was a massive relief when Johnson got sacked and I felt excited by who we could get in. Would be lying if I said I wasn’t a tad disappointed
I don't think there's a clear front runner yet.
Could be the end of next week until it's done.
Gorebridge Hibb
04-09-2023, 09:42 PM
It was a massive relief when Johnson got sacked and I felt excited by who we could get in. Would be lying if I said I wasn’t a tad disappointed
Really. We’re not getting Pep. Monty is a great coach and we would be lucky to get him.Got Jason in the Aussie World Cup squad and won the play offs with a team with the smallest budget in the A League. Got a bit of decency and humility about him and a great work ethic. Great communicator as well.
Viva_Palmeiras
04-09-2023, 10:26 PM
Underwhelmed …
Someone had to be.
Forza Fred
04-09-2023, 10:43 PM
Gives me tony Mowbray vibes. I'm excited, I hope it's him. McDermott knows him. Thoes who say hes not got knowledge of the scottish game. Im pretty sure hes trained lewis miller, Rowles Atkinson and devlin (all hearts), played for scotland u21s along side Marshall.He's also close to the like of Mike Whelan (ex man utd assistant), ange.
It's a risk but so is every appointment
Miller and Rowles..yes
Atkinson and Devlin ....no
Scouse Hibee
04-09-2023, 11:38 PM
Would like to see Lennon back, think we need someone who knows the scottish game.
Why?
A good manager needs no knowledge of the Scottish game at all.
I'm_cabbaged
05-09-2023, 02:20 AM
Why?
A good manager needs no knowledge of the Scottish game at all.
Yep, the European teams don’t seem to have any problems against Scottish teams 🤣🤣
heretoday
05-09-2023, 05:12 AM
Why?
A good manager needs no knowledge of the Scottish game at all.
Correct. Knowing the Scottish game indeed. Knowing that it's poor quality, perhaps?
Stonewall
05-09-2023, 05:26 AM
Underwhelmed …
Monty oot: Remember where you heard it first.
JimBHibees
05-09-2023, 06:00 AM
Why?
A good manager needs no knowledge of the Scottish game at all.
Absolutely spot on.
flash
05-09-2023, 06:15 AM
It's funny how your idea of who you want can change during a recruitment process.
I started off convinced we would be best served by a relentless grinder like McInnes to give us the stability we undoubtedly need.
A couple of weeks later and I am almost totally sold on the idea of getting a young, ambitious manager in who has already tasted success and will be looking to manage down south eventually.
I can see the merits in both appointments but the hope and excitement of the second style almost always wins out in my head at times like this regardless of us having our fingers burnt previously.
As the old saying goes it's the hope that kills you.
Northernhibee
05-09-2023, 06:23 AM
Gotten some feedback off of Mariners fans;
“Lewis Miller will be ****ting himself as he knows what's walking in.
Any dickheads in the squad will be out the door quick smart.
As above.
Very high tempo 442 that is 244 with the ball. Expect to see massive gaps behind your fullbacks as they will support the wingers.
Flat 2 in midfield. 6 and an 8.
Monty to be sent off in your 1st derby”
“We are hoping its not true but if you have stolen our manager you have just jagged the best Coach in Australia. He is hard but fair. Your team will have a harder edge with Monty in charge and you will be playing 442.”
Springbank
05-09-2023, 06:35 AM
Gotten some feedback off of Mariners fans;
“Lewis Miller will be ****ting himself as he knows what's walking in.
Any dickheads in the squad will be out the door quick smart.
As above.
Very high tempo 442 that is 244 with the ball. Expect to see massive gaps behind your fullbacks as they will support the wingers.
Flat 2 in midfield. 6 and an 8.
Monty to be sent off in your 1st derby”
“We are hoping its not true but if you have stolen our manager you have just jagged the best Coach in Australia. He is hard but fair. Your team will have a harder edge with Monty in charge and you will be playing 442.”
Tony Mowbray mk2
I'm on board already
timewilltell
05-09-2023, 06:45 AM
Gotten some feedback off of Mariners fans;
“Lewis Miller will be ****ting himself as he knows what's walking in.
Any dickheads in the squad will be out the door quick smart.
As above.
Very high tempo 442 that is 244 with the ball. Expect to see massive gaps behind your fullbacks as they will support the wingers.
Flat 2 in midfield. 6 and an 8.
Monty to be sent off in your 1st derby”
“We are hoping it’s not true but if you have stolen our manager you have just jagged the best Coach in Australia. He is hard but fair. Your team will have a harder edge with Monty in charge and you will be playing 442.”
That will do for me….
Unseen work
05-09-2023, 06:45 AM
Gotten some feedback off of Mariners fans;
“Lewis Miller will be ****ting himself as he knows what's walking in.
Any dickheads in the squad will be out the door quick smart.
As above.
Very high tempo 442 that is 244 with the ball. Expect to see massive gaps behind your fullbacks as they will support the wingers.
Flat 2 in midfield. 6 and an 8.
Monty to be sent off in your 1st derby”
“We are hoping its not true but if you have stolen our manager you have just jagged the best Coach in Australia. He is hard but fair. Your team will have a harder edge with Monty in charge and you will be playing 442.”
That sounds like a dream for Livi and Kilmarnock to play against 🤣 in all seriousness though hopefully the tempo is that high for a change we done allow teams to get a shape and organised.
I’m interested re Miller, I heard Montgomery previously refer to him and say they lost the best full back in the country. But prior to signing for us he had signed for MacArthur? Was that due to him not being liked or were MacArthur paying Miller more money and viewed as a step up?
lyonhibs
05-09-2023, 06:48 AM
Delighted if this comes to fruition. The new appointee needs to know how to manage a group of players into playing as a coherent unit.
All this "Scottish game knowledge" as if we play with a different ball on a different pitch is a load of tosh and just pushes us down the road of unimaginative and/or unattractive and/or unsuitable appointments
Hibernian Verse
05-09-2023, 06:50 AM
Gotten some feedback off of Mariners fans;
“Lewis Miller will be ****ting himself as he knows what's walking in.
Any dickheads in the squad will be out the door quick smart.
As above.
Very high tempo 442 that is 244 with the ball. Expect to see massive gaps behind your fullbacks as they will support the wingers.
Flat 2 in midfield. 6 and an 8.
Monty to be sent off in your 1st derby”
“We are hoping its not true but if you have stolen our manager you have just jagged the best Coach in Australia. He is hard but fair. Your team will have a harder edge with Monty in charge and you will be playing 442.”
That's got me going this morning...
lyonhibs
05-09-2023, 07:05 AM
That's got me going this morning...
Over share mate, over share 😂
Hibee Mac
05-09-2023, 07:08 AM
The bombing on full backs worries me a little as we saw this weekend when you let the back 4 defend we can keep clean sheets and win. Not sure we have the players to play like that just yet
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bordergreen
05-09-2023, 07:09 AM
Any Football Manager appointment is a gamble. Whether they have played, coached, or managed in Scotland, or, not. It is more about the character, man management and coaching skills. The more I see and hear about Montgomery, the more excited I am.
Certainly sounds like he won’t accept us being a soft touch, and there will be no room for passengers. Nick Monty’s Green and White Army!
Hibernian Verse
05-09-2023, 07:10 AM
Over share mate, over share 😂
We're all friends here
Brunswickbill
05-09-2023, 07:16 AM
I’m predicting that he’ll be so successful they’ll name a street after him. Oh wait…..
18Craig75
05-09-2023, 07:19 AM
Well after starting out the process wanting Lennon back, I must say my mind has been turned by all the Monty chat. Seems like he could bring the same levels of excitement we got in Lennons best season with us with a steely edge too…without the baggage of Lennon. Win win
Allant1981
05-09-2023, 07:24 AM
The bombing on full backs worries me a little as we saw this weekend when you let the back 4 defend we can keep clean sheets and win. Not sure we have the players to play like that just yet
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That's hopefully where your DM plays a part though, if the full back is forward then ideally he should drop in and cover
Borderhibbie76
05-09-2023, 07:32 AM
Lennon is looking like a spoilt child all over TV right now. He will be nowhere near this club again.
Amen to that
JohnM1875
05-09-2023, 07:36 AM
Gotten some feedback off of Mariners fans;
“Lewis Miller will be ****ting himself as he knows what's walking in.
Any dickheads in the squad will be out the door quick smart.
As above.
Very high tempo 442 that is 244 with the ball. Expect to see massive gaps behind your fullbacks as they will support the wingers.
Flat 2 in midfield. 6 and an 8.
Monty to be sent off in your 1st derby”
“We are hoping its not true but if you have stolen our manager you have just jagged the best Coach in Australia. He is hard but fair. Your team will have a harder edge with Monty in charge and you will be playing 442.”
Interesting, why would Miller be ****ting himself though? Seems like a grafter and honest pro to me?
Worry about the pace of our defenders if they're left two at the back!
Still hope it's Montogery though.
Since452
05-09-2023, 07:45 AM
Montgomery isn't for me. We don't need a risk right now. We need a period of stability and i'm going with the annoying Premiership experience cliché.
CapitalGreen
05-09-2023, 07:46 AM
Montgomery isn't for me. We don't need a risk right now. We need a period of stability and i'm going with the annoying Premiership experience cliché.
Who isn’t a risk?
jacomo
05-09-2023, 07:49 AM
We need a quick learner.
In an ideal world they’ll be adapting to a decent amount of European football next year too.
I’ll take a longer adjustment process if it gets us a manager with a vision and an ability to build a squad and style of play that might get us there.
GreenPJ
05-09-2023, 07:51 AM
Montgomery isn't for me. We don't need a risk right now. We need a period of stability and i'm going with the annoying Premiership experience cliché.
There isn't an appointment (at any club) that isn't a risk. Yes the likes of McInnes has better in-depth knowledge of Scottish Football and has managed a lot more games than Monty, however, I don't see people touting his name around as a future EPL manager. If he is appointed the piece we can do is to give him some time and leeway. Sounds as if he has his style of play which is great but he will also need to learn to have a plan B. He will also need to learn to work with the tools he has rather than the tools he wants.
I am quietly optimistic that this appointment could really work but the flip side of that is in 2 years time we will probably be looking for a replacement manager as he has been poached away down south.
Onwards and upwards and lets hope there is some formal announcement of someone in the next 2-3 days.
lyonhibs
05-09-2023, 07:53 AM
Montgomery isn't for me. We don't need a risk right now. We need a period of stability and i'm going with the annoying Premiership experience cliché.
Not saying you fall into this bucket, but I daresay there'll be folk out there that agree with you but also want stable, risk-free Neil Lennon to get the gig :faf::faf::faf:
There isn't an appointment (at any club) that isn't a risk. Yes the likes of McInnes has better in-depth knowledge of Scottish Football and has managed a lot more games than Monty, however, I don't see people touting his name around as a future EPL manager. If he is appointed the piece we can do is to give him some time and leeway. Sounds as if he has his style of play which is great but he will also need to learn to have a plan B. He will also need to learn to work with the tools he has rather than the tools he wants.
I am quietly optimistic that this appointment could really work but the flip side of that is in 2 years time we will probably be looking for a replacement manager as he has been poached away down south.
Onwards and upwards and lets hope there is some formal announcement of someone in the next 2-3 days.
You post that as if it is a negative when it is precisely what we should be hoping for as it'll mean he's been successful. Our norm is to be looking for a replacement in under 2 years because it isn't working.
Souter96Mac
05-09-2023, 08:00 AM
Within the space of about 2 days I've gone well and truly into the 'Monty in' opinion.
He sounds like he could be a real breath of fresh air, and a good balance of being a different option away from the usual suspects we get linked to, but also having had managerial experience too, not to mention that experience being positive and successful.
He also seems to possess a 'no nonsense' approach, whilst also being very successful at nurturing young talent through his teams, all the while playing attacking football.
I'll back whoever gets the job, but would be delighted if/when we announce him.
BoomtownHibees
05-09-2023, 08:10 AM
Seen a few posts now where folk are a bit against Monty in case he does well and is offered a bigger job elsewhere. Can’t quite get ma head around that way of thinking
Stanton Spence
05-09-2023, 08:20 AM
When I first heard this guys name mentioned I was initially sceptical and was against him but the more I heard about him and the more I’m thinking he could be the right man for the job
kentao
05-09-2023, 08:24 AM
If it is Monty i wouldn't mind if he`s away after 12 months ...
After he's won the treble and got an offer to join Man United.
I would prefer a stable appointment of the likes of McInnes / Robinson who know the league and our weakness`s but whoever gets the job will get my full backing.
lucky
05-09-2023, 08:30 AM
Doing well in the A league is not a good enough background to be considered for the Hibs job. We need someone with experience of Scottish football.
Jim44
05-09-2023, 08:32 AM
Seen a few posts now where folk are a bit against Monty in case he does well and is offered a bigger job elsewhere. Can’t quite get ma head around that way of thinking
If it is Monty i wouldn't mind if he`s away after 12 months ...
After he's won the treble and got an offer to join Man United.
I would prefer a stable appointment of the likes of McInnes / Robinson who know the league and our weakness`s but whoever gets the job will get my full backing.
His assistant, Raimundo, said in the article, that he and Montgomery had ambitions to manage in the Premier League. Fine by me, as long as they earn the right by giving us a couple of good years and get us back on the rails again.
JimBHibees
05-09-2023, 08:35 AM
Doing well in the A league is not a good enough background to be considered for the Hibs job. We need someone with experience of Scottish football.
Football is football and to be honest the Scottish league in the grand scheme of things isn't the most complicated or technical. What we need is a very good man manager who can motivate and get the best out of the players. Knowing Scottish football is a nice to have not an essential quality imo. Rodgers and Ange and Gerrard had little or no knowledge of Scottish football. Our last three managers did have.
CapitalGreen
05-09-2023, 08:35 AM
Doing well in the A league is not a good enough background to be considered for the Hibs job. We need someone with experience of Scottish football.
Our last 3 management teams had extensive experience of Scottish Football.
8 of the last 10 league winning managers had no previous experience of Scottish Football before they were appointed.
JimBHibees
05-09-2023, 08:36 AM
Seen a few posts now where folk are a bit against Monty in case he does well and is offered a bigger job elsewhere. Can’t quite get ma head around that way of thinking
Agree he moves on he has done well here.
BoomtownHibees
05-09-2023, 08:37 AM
Doing well in the A league is not a good enough background to be considered for the Hibs job. We need someone with experience of Scottish football.
Like Johnson, Maloney and Butcher you mean?
greenlex
05-09-2023, 08:41 AM
For me it’s not just a knowledge of scottish football but a proven ability to perform at our level that we need right now. There are always risks but some less of a risk than others. Having said that Butcher was such a commodity and that was one of the biggest disasters the club has known.
Steve20
05-09-2023, 08:41 AM
Don't get the people wanting McInnes. He's ok, but nothing more. His Football is boring and if it wasn't for the two wins against Rangers and Celtic last month, there wouldn't be many wanting him.
Don't know much about Montgomery, but the little I've read up on sounds better than McInnes.
MKHIBEE
05-09-2023, 08:41 AM
An interesting article:
https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/nick-montgomery-central-coast-mariners-sheffield-united/
Sign him up before someone else does
matty_f
05-09-2023, 08:42 AM
Football is football and to be honest the Scottish league in the grand scheme of things isn't the most complicated or technical. What we need is a very good man manager who can motivate and get the best out of the players. Knowing Scottish football is a nice to have not an essential quality imo. Rodgers and Ange and Gerrard had little or no knowledge of Scottish football. Our last three managers did have.
Totally agree about the man management aspect, Jim.
I think we’ve got good players at the club who, when they’re on it, can perform very well (Luzern being a good example) and are capable of being awful when they’re not (various league games this season, Inter away etc).
Getting in a guy that gets these players playing at their maximum will win us an awful lot of matches. We don’t need a master tactician to reinvent the game, we need someone who’s tactically competent but a strong motivator who can properly get everyone in the team running through walls for him.
Hibbyradge
05-09-2023, 08:44 AM
Does anyone think that Raimundo and McDermott might not be compatible?
Montgomery credits Raimundo with unearthing "gems". Isn't that BMs job?
sauzeelegod
05-09-2023, 08:45 AM
Montgomery isn't for me. We don't need a risk right now. We need a period of stability and i'm going with the annoying Premiership experience cliché.
This is where I am too.
Normally I would be excited about Monty, but after the last few appointments I just want some experience.
Hibbyradge
05-09-2023, 08:45 AM
Doing well in the A league is not a good enough background to be considered for the Hibs job. We need someone with experience of Scottish football.
Why?
matty_f
05-09-2023, 08:46 AM
Does anyone think that Raimundo and McDermott might not be compatible?
Montgomery credits Raimundo with unearthing "gems". Isn't that BMs job?
If BM’s got any sense he’ll work with Raimundo rather than feel threatened by him.
Doing well in the A league is not a good enough background to be considered for the Hibs job. We need someone with experience of Scottish football.
Montgomery has got experience of Scottish football, he's been capped for Scotland at U21s and the B International side, albeit not many caps, so I imagine he isn't completely ignorant of the Scottish game.
flash
05-09-2023, 08:47 AM
This is where I am too.
Normally I would be excited about Monty, but after the last few appointments I just want some experience.
Did we not just have that?
Forza Fred
05-09-2023, 08:47 AM
Seen a few posts now where folk are a bit against Monty in case he does well and is offered a bigger job elsewhere. Can’t quite get ma head around that way of thinking
Agree totally.
Every Hibs manager moves on at some stage…every one of them.
He usually goes 1 of 2 ways.
1 Sacked because he has done a crap job., or
2 poached by a ‘bigger’ club because he has done a very good job.
I don’t know when our next manager, whomever it is will move on, but I sincerely hope it is for scenario number 2.
To argue against anybody’s appointment because they may be successful, is mind boggling!
Maybe we should never have signed Kevin Nisbet because he moved on too!
Mainstandman
05-09-2023, 08:47 AM
Doing well in the A league is not a good enough background to be considered for the Hibs job. We need someone with experience of Scottish football.
Like all the european teams that pump the scottish teams with their experience of scottish football.
heretoday
05-09-2023, 08:48 AM
If he's a success Celtic will be hovering. As usual.
sauzeelegod
05-09-2023, 08:50 AM
I find it a bit strange that not many people are championing Stephen Bradley but are all over the Monty chat.
Done wonders in LOI and managed a lot more games so has more experience and won more trophies.
Hibbyradge
05-09-2023, 08:50 AM
If he's a success Celtic will be hovering. As usual.
Depending on how their manager is doing, no?
Just like every other club.
sauzeelegod
05-09-2023, 08:52 AM
Did we not just have that?
Experience up here I was meaning. As I say it’s an unusual opinion for me, I would usually be buzzing about a young hungry manager but think the Maloney and Johnson years have done me in.
flash
05-09-2023, 08:52 AM
I find it a bit strange that not many people are championing Stephen Bradley but are all over the Monty chat.
Done wonders in LOI and managed a lot more games so has more experience and won more trophies.
He is certainly one of the more interesting names out there.
Alex Trager
05-09-2023, 08:53 AM
Don't get the people wanting McInnes. He's ok, but nothing more. His Football is boring and if it wasn't for the two wins against Rangers and Celtic last month, there wouldn't be many wanting him.
Don't know much about Montgomery, but the little I've read up on sounds better than McInnes.
Derek stabilised a club that has a bigger budget than ours but had finished in the following positions before he arrived: 9;9;8.
In his first full season they finished 3rd and won the league cup, scoring more goals than 8 other teams in the division. He followed that up with:
• 2nd (though there were no Hibs, Hearts or Rangers in the division) - 57 goals scored, 3rd on goals scored behind Celtic and DU
• 2nd (no Hibs or Rangers) - 62 goals scored, 2nd to Celtic.
• 2nd (no Hibs) - 74 scored, 2nd to Celtic
• 2nd - 56 goals scored, 4th behind Celtic, Rangers and Hibs
• 4th - 57 goals scored, 3rd behind Celtic and Rangers
• 4th - when he was sacked
That is a phenomenal record of consistency which we could benefit from immensely.
flash
05-09-2023, 08:53 AM
Experience up here I was meaning. As I say it’s an unusual opinion for me, I would usually be buzzing about a young hungry manager but think the Maloney and Johnson years have done me in.
Yeah I get that although am sure Terry Butcher fitted that criteria perfectly.
No easy answer I suppose.
JimBHibees
05-09-2023, 08:54 AM
Delighted if this comes to fruition. The new appointee needs to know how to manage a group of players into playing as a coherent unit.
All this "Scottish game knowledge" as if we play with a different ball on a different pitch is a load of tosh and just pushes us down the road of unimaginative and/or unattractive and/or unsuitable appointments
Spot on
Heisenberg
05-09-2023, 08:55 AM
I find it a bit strange that not many people are championing Stephen Bradley but are all over the Monty chat.
Done wonders in LOI and managed a lot more games so has more experience and won more trophies.
Also knows McDermott quite well it seems.
blackpoolhibs
05-09-2023, 08:56 AM
My preference is McIness, i know very little about Monty apart from what has been said on here.
As folk say every manager is a gamble, but normally the favourite wins over the 20/1 shot, and i'm of the opinion we need stability, we need certainty (as much as you can get) and McIness for me gives us more chance of that and more chance of longer term success.
I feel Monty would be off if we were successful, wheras i'm not convinced McIness would be if he had the same success.
If it is Monty, then i just believe its a bigger gamble that McIness, of course Monty could be fantastic and set us off on a worlwind off success, we'd all love that wouldnt we?
Whoever it is we will get behind them, strap in it's about to get interesting. :thumbsup:
Paulie Walnuts
05-09-2023, 08:57 AM
Derek stabilised a club that has a bigger budget than ours but had finished in the following positions before he arrived: 9;9;8.
In his first full season they finished 3rd and won the league cup, scoring more goals than 8 other teams in the division. He followed that up with:
• 2nd (though there were no Hibs, Hearts or Rangers in the division) - 57 goals scored, 3rd on goals scored behind Celtic and DU
• 2nd (no Hibs or Rangers) - 62 goals scored, 2nd to Celtic.
• 2nd (no Hibs) - 74 scored, 2nd to Celtic
• 2nd - 56 goals scored, 4th behind Celtic, Rangers and Hibs
• 4th - 57 goals scored, 3rd behind Celtic and Rangers
• 4th - when he was sacked
That is a phenomenal record of consistency which we could benefit from immensely.
:agree:
eastmainsmsh
05-09-2023, 09:02 AM
If its Monty its in his favour does well gets move to maybe England goes wrong then stocks high in oz
sauzeelegod
05-09-2023, 09:09 AM
Yeah I get that although am sure Terry Butcher fitted that criteria perfectly.
No easy answer I suppose.
Fair point mate.
MrSmith
05-09-2023, 09:12 AM
wee update. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66713481
The Captain....
05-09-2023, 09:19 AM
It's funny how your idea of who you want can change during a recruitment process.
I started off convinced we would be best served by a relentless grinder like McInnes to give us the stability we undoubtedly need.
A couple of weeks later and I am almost totally sold on the idea of getting a young, ambitious manager in who has already tasted success and will be looking to manage down south eventually.
I can see the merits in both appointments but the hope and excitement of the second style almost always wins out in my head at times like this regardless of us having our fingers burnt previously.
As the old saying goes it's the hope that kills you.I know what you mean, there's a glimmer of hope we'll be able to create something more tangible and exciting under Montgomery that I don't really get with the other names mentioned.
Given the facilities and the infrastructure we have you'd think he would be able to utilise that to improve us.
Tbh the only candidate that would really disappoint me if we appointed him would be Robinson. I just don't think he's done enough yet and I find him pretty depressing to listen to.
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Since452
05-09-2023, 09:19 AM
If he's a success Celtic will be hovering. As usual.
I think Celtic would see Hibs managers as beneath them these days to be honest. Their fans would want a big name.
yerauldda
05-09-2023, 09:20 AM
I think Bradley is definitely an interesting and credible candidate. I think what may be attractive about Montgomery over him is his ability to garner success with one of the lowest budgets in the league, a track record of selling on young players that he's coached and a reputation for strong man management.
Wouldn't be against Bradley getting it but my preference is Montgomery.
GloryGlory
05-09-2023, 09:29 AM
Yeah I get that although am sure Terry Butcher fitted that criteria perfectly.
No easy answer I suppose.
As did Bobby Williamson.
Edit: He of the "if you want to be entertained go the cinema" motto.
lyonhibs
05-09-2023, 09:32 AM
This is where I am too.
Normally I would be excited about Monty, but after the last few appointments I just want some experience.
Our previous manager reached his 500th game in management with us and couldn't get a tune out of the team.
GreenPJ
05-09-2023, 09:36 AM
You post that as if it is a negative when it is precisely what we should be hoping for as it'll mean he's been successful. Our norm is to be looking for a replacement in under 2 years because it isn't working.
Its a double edged sword - I think we would really benefit from a manager being here for 3 to 4 years to provide stability, year or year progression and allow for succession planning (either from within or externally). As you say if he gets poached its because he is doing a good job but it may not be in a timeframe that is optimal for us.
Springbank
05-09-2023, 09:37 AM
I'm old enough to remember that summer when the press were full of the following comments:
"Ange who?"
"An Australian manager will never win in Scotland"
"no experience of the Scottish game"
"all very well saying 'We Never Stop' in Japanese football, but will it work on a cold Tuesday night in Dingwall"
It wasn't right then, and it ain't now.
I'm all for Montgomery
Donegal Hibby
05-09-2023, 09:37 AM
I find it a bit strange that not many people are championing Stephen Bradley but are all over the Monty chat.
Done wonders in LOI and managed a lot more games so has more experience and won more trophies.
For me its because Bradley is at probably the biggest club in the league of Ireland. Montgomery seems to have been at quite the opposite in one of the smallest and least resourced clubs with one of the youngest squads I read too .
Beating Melbourne city ,one of the largest clubs and best resourced thanks to there owners the city football group was some feat though the manner they done it in was quite amazing.
Montgomery also seems to have a good track record at developing young players too . I don't know if Bradley has so maybe I'm doing him a disservice there . If it was down to Montgomery or Bradley for the Hibs job personally I'd want Montgomery all day long. Just my opinion though 👍
Since90+2
05-09-2023, 09:37 AM
I think Celtic would see Hibs managers as beneath them these days to be honest. Their fans would want a big name.
Agreed. He'd probably need to get close to winning the league and do fairly well innthebgroup stages of Europe for them to consider it.
Be absolutely brilliant if that happened right enough.
Forza Fred
05-09-2023, 09:42 AM
My preference is McIness, i know very little about Monty apart from what has been said on here.
As folk say every manager is a gamble, but normally the favourite wins over the 20/1 shot, and i'm of the opinion we need stability, we need certainty (as much as you can get) and McIness for me gives us more chance of that and more chance of longer term success.
I feel Monty would be off if we were successful, wheras i'm not convinced McIness would be if he had the same success.
If it is Monty, then i just believe its a bigger gamble that McIness, of course Monty could be fantastic and set us off on a worlwind off success, we'd all love that wouldnt we?
Whoever it is we will get behind them, strap in it's about to get interesting. :thumbsup:
Not sure what context the word ‘stability’ is meant…….not just with your
Post, but others too..
I think in most instances it means ,’managerial longevity’…I guess the period a manager stays is the job?
I’d expect whomever gets the job to be around for at least two years ..unless they are realy really crap of course…and we offload them and start the hunt again
FWIW I had a look at our previous managers….and to find the last one that lasted a ‘stable’ 3 years I had to go way back to Alex McLeish’s time.
I’d say that generally speaking any outstanding successful manager in Scotland attracts interest, and middle of the road ones don’t.
I’d rather maybe have a bit of success and wave ta ta like we did with Stubbsie, than have a plodder who was comfortable in the job for a longer period of time.
Not sure you mean that by the way…and there is no guarantee that any of the candidates will be successful……but most of the fear I smell in some other posts about ‘lack of stability’ seem to revolve around the possibility that Monte may be successful!
If he does come and Is successful then I will happily embrace it…….I’ll worrry later about who follows him further down the track,
hibby67
05-09-2023, 09:52 AM
I'm old enough to remember that summer when the press were full of the following comments:
"Ange who?"
"An Australian manager will never win in Scotland"
"no experience of the Scottish game"
"all very well saying 'We Never Stop' in Japanese football, but will it work on a cold Tuesday night in Dingwall"
It wasn't right then, and it ain't now.
I'm all for Montgomery
I am quite excited about Montgomery coming if true, but my only concern and the difference with Ange coming to Scotland as he had a full preseason and a window to get his players in where Montgomery will have to deal with what we has until January
Let’s hope he can organise and steady the ship until then.. think as a fan base we need to be patient and supportive.. change will not happen overnight
Forza Fred
05-09-2023, 09:56 AM
wee update. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66713481
Just basically repeats the Record’s claims the other day.
The Mariner fans think he’s gone…..but not sure that means a lot.
I know he’s in the frame for the job….but don’t think betting has been suspended (has it? ) and I’d take more notice of the bookies than the punters.
Hibernian Verse
05-09-2023, 09:58 AM
Just basically repeats the Record’s claims the other day.
The Mariner fans think he’s gone…..but not sure that means a lot.
I know he’s in the frame for the job….but don’t think betting has been suspended (has it? ) and I’d take more notice of the bookies than the punters.
Betting has been removed from McBookie as far as I can see
Vault Boy
05-09-2023, 10:00 AM
Me? Well, I’m a Monty man. My father is a Monty man, and his father before him. I come from a long line of Monty men. #AnnounceMonty
Forza Fred
05-09-2023, 10:00 AM
Betting has been removed from McBookie as far as I can see
That’s interesting……I dunno the bookies in Scotland….have they all ‘removed’ the odds on the next manager?
mcohibs
05-09-2023, 10:03 AM
If he's a success Celtic will be hovering. As usual.
If any manager gets us playing to the standard where the league champions are looking interested, I’d happily take that. FWIW I think any domestic manager outside of the uglies would have to be doing an almost unimaginably good job in the league and Europe to be considered as a potential replacement for either of Glasgow’s two these days.
scm70nyd1973
05-09-2023, 10:08 AM
Not sure what context the word ‘stability’ is meant…….not just with your
Post, but others too..
I think in most instances it means ,’managerial longevity’…I guess the period a manager stays is the job?
I’d expect whomever gets the job to be around for at least two years ..unless they are realy really crap of course…and we offload them and start the hunt again
FWIW I had a look at our previous managers….and to find the last one that lasted a ‘stable’ 3 years I had to go way back to Alex McLeish’s time.
I’d say that generally speaking any outstanding successful manager in Scotland attracts interest, and middle of the road ones don’t.
I’d rather maybe have a bit of success and wave ta ta like we did with Stubbsie, than have a plodder who was comfortable in the job for a longer period of time.
Not sure you mean that by the way…and there is no guarantee that any of the candidates will be successful……but most of the fear I smell in some other posts about ‘lack of stability’ seem to revolve around the possibility that Monte may be successful!
If he does come and Is successful then I will happily embrace it…….I’ll worrry later about who follows him further down the track,
Losing a good or even great Manager is painful but it means that we would have had some success - whatever that might be - the club/team will be left in a good place and it will be easier to attract a decent new Manager without the “poison chalice” tag - players might leave with the ex manager but we’d make good money out of it. As you say - let’s worry about who would come later - for all we know that person could take us even further .
I just do not get why people would be against a really successful manager in case he got poached- just mental.
MrSmith
05-09-2023, 10:13 AM
As soon as I read about Monty sorting out the academey and bringing in youngsters to his first team, I was in.
blackpoolhibs
05-09-2023, 10:20 AM
Not sure what context the word ‘stability’ is meant…….not just with your
Post, but others too..
Rightly or wrongly i just think success under McIness wouldnt see him jump ship at the first option, i do think that under Monty.
I think in most instances it means ,’managerial longevity’…I guess the period a manager stays is the job?
I’d expect whomever gets the job to be around for at least two years ..unless they are realy really crap of course…and we offload them and start the hunt again
Again, i dont think that under a successful McIness.
FWIW I had a look at our previous managers….and to find the last one that lasted a ‘stable’ 3 years I had to go way back to Alex McLeish’s time.
I’d say that generally speaking any outstanding successful manager in Scotland attracts interest, and middle of the road ones don’t.
I’d rather maybe have a bit of success and wave ta ta like we did with Stubbsie, than have a plodder who was comfortable in the job for a longer period of time.
Why do the other options have to be plodders other than Monty?
Not sure you mean that by the way…and there is no guarantee that any of the candidates will be successful……but most of the fear I smell in some other posts about ‘lack of stability’ seem to revolve around the possibility that Monte may be successful!
Of course there is no guarantee of success under any manager, but going by the evidence of McInees's career so far, he has had some very good seasons and stayed at a club an awful long time, even rejecting the huns to stay at Pittodrie.
That in itself is stability, we've had great success under Mowbray for instance, he left and we went back to the boom bust form that the club needs to get out of in my opinion.
Of course the club could do fantastically well, and Monty could go onto Arsenal after winning us a cup and Europe qualification, then we go through the process again of looking for the next best thing. It's hardly worked in the past though has it.
If he does come and Is successful then I will happily embrace it…….I’ll worrry later about who follows him further down the track,
If it is Monty i will happily get behind him, it's just my opinion that i'd rather we went for McIness for the points i said earlier. :aok:
Forza Fred
05-09-2023, 10:28 AM
If it is Monty i will happily get behind him, it's just my opinion that i'd rather we went for McIness for the points i said earlier. :aok:
I too just want the best manager we can get.
If it’s Monte great, if there is someone better …..then I want him!
That’s interesting……I dunno the bookies in Scotland….have they all ‘removed’ the odds on the next manager?
McBookies was the only one I saw that was giving odds for it.
Hibbyradge
05-09-2023, 10:30 AM
That’s interesting……I dunno the bookies in Scotland….have they all ‘removed’ the odds on the next manager?
It doesn't mean anything other than they think we're getting close to a decision and they're scared someone ITK will lump on.
04Sauzee
05-09-2023, 10:31 AM
McBookies was the only one I saw that was giving odds for it.
Betvictor definitely were, not sure if they are down also.
timewilltell
05-09-2023, 10:31 AM
Doing well in the A league is not a good enough background to be considered for the Hibs job. We need someone with experience of Scottish football.
Give this tedious line a rest!
BigKev
05-09-2023, 10:40 AM
Give this tedious line a rest!
I agree… I’m guessing Monty has seen a fair bit of Scottish football when scouting players. Maybe just signed Cummings off the back of a decent YouTube compilation rather than EVER seeing him play.
The must have knowledge of the Scottish game patter is as predictable as it is boring. Let’s close off applicants from the rest of the world because they don’t know “Scottish fitba?” Tedious sums it up perfectly.
Glasgowhibby95
05-09-2023, 10:47 AM
I'm failing to understand the people who are trying to claim that it will a bad thing if Montgomery jumps ship if a bigger club comes in for him. That will signal he's been a real success at Hibs and has taken us forward in the direction we need to go.
Are people seeking long term stability (McInnes, Robinson, etc) aware that this will mean that Hibs are likely to be fairly stagnant over the next few years?
I know which one I'd rather have.
Scouse Hibee
05-09-2023, 10:52 AM
Doing well in the A league is not a good enough background to be considered for the Hibs job. We need someone with experience of Scottish football.
We really don’t.
jeffers
05-09-2023, 10:56 AM
We really don’t.
:agree: I’ve yet to read a good argument why we need someone who “knows Scottish football.” It’s not as if we play with two balls, more players in a team or to different rules. At the end of the day it’s football, a simple game.
SaulGoodman
05-09-2023, 11:01 AM
Montgomery excites me a lot more than the other run of the mill names being mentioned. And that’s from someone that wanted McInnes.
Dan Sarf
05-09-2023, 11:01 AM
:agree: I’ve yet to read a good argument why we need someone who “knows Scottish football.” It’s not as if we play with two balls, more players in a team or to different rules. At the end of the day it’s football, a simple game.
Speak for yourself!
:greengrin
jeffers
05-09-2023, 11:17 AM
Speak for yourself!
:greengrin
😂
Hibbyradge
05-09-2023, 11:47 AM
Betvictor definitely were, not sure if they are down also.
No bets available with anyone as far as I can see.
Hibbyradge
05-09-2023, 11:48 AM
Give this meaningless line a rest!
Ftfy
Argylehibby
05-09-2023, 12:01 PM
:agree: I’ve yet to read a good argument why we need someone who “knows Scottish football.” It’s not as if we play with two balls, more players in a team or to different rules. At the end of the day it’s football, a simple game.
Well to be fair we do play to a different set of rules here.
Rule 1 if it’s against Rangers or Celtic pretend you didn’t see it.
Rule 2 if you have to give it make sure you give Rangers or Celtic a penalty to even things up.
jeffers
05-09-2023, 12:05 PM
Well to be fair we do play to a different set of rules here.
Rule 1 if it’s against Rangers or Celtic pretend you didn’t see it.
Rule 2 if you have to give it make sure you give Rangers or Celtic a penalty to even things up.
Yeah that’s fairly accurate tbf.
TimeForHeroes
05-09-2023, 12:21 PM
The "must know Scottish football" line is tedious. But regardless, I bet Monty DOES know Scottish football. Numerous CCM players have moved here. He's been linked with a job here before. He is a full time football man, it's all he does. He'll know more than us about the Croatian and Polish leagues too, no doubt.
HibeeSince85
05-09-2023, 12:56 PM
I never get ITK info but I was told this morning that NM has had two interviews online and is due to meet the board face to face this week. Talks have progressed to the stage where he has had his backroom staff signed off.
The "must know Scottish football" line is tedious. But regardless, I bet Monty DOES know Scottish football. Numerous CCM players have moved here. He's been linked with a job here before. He is a full time football man, it's all he does. He'll know more than us about the Croatian and Polish leagues too, no doubt.
Not to mention that he's Scottish.
https://i.ibb.co/VYtxQkh/Screenshot-20230904-212420-Chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/8g0bdQR)
Springbank
05-09-2023, 01:08 PM
Not to mention that he's Scottish.
https://i.ibb.co/VYtxQkh/Screenshot-20230904-212420-Chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/8g0bdQR)
No visa required, no Brexitland complications - nice
HoboHarry
05-09-2023, 01:12 PM
Not to mention that he's Scottish.
https://i.ibb.co/VYtxQkh/Screenshot-20230904-212420-Chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/8g0bdQR)
Think that may be a stretch, he played for the Scotland U21 side but he's English by birth and upbringing as far as I can tell. Regardless, welcome aboard if you are indeed about to join us.
Northernhibee
05-09-2023, 01:12 PM
I never get ITK info but I was told this morning that NM has had two interviews online and is due to meet the board face to face this week. Talks have progressed to the stage where he has had his backroom staff signed off.
:hyper
Squealing pig
05-09-2023, 01:15 PM
Think a great appointment if true gut feeling only
Joe6-2
05-09-2023, 01:15 PM
Speak for yourself!
:greengrin
😂😂
Heedersnvolleys
05-09-2023, 02:55 PM
I'm old enough to remember that summer when the press were full of the following comments:
"Ange who?"
"An Australian manager will never win in Scotland"
"no experience of the Scottish game"
"all very well saying 'We Never Stop' in Japanese football, but will it work on a cold Tuesday night in Dingwall"
It wasn't right then, and it ain't now.
I'm all for Montgomery
I would prefer he was actually Australian, love their attitude to sport. Hope it has rubbed off on Monty if he comes here.
Some original home grown football knowledge and some Aussie aggression and determination.
Since90+2
05-09-2023, 02:56 PM
Not to mention that he's Scottish.
https://i.ibb.co/VYtxQkh/Screenshot-20230904-212420-Chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/8g0bdQR)
Born and grew up in England but has Australian citizenship. Played for Scotland under 21.
Smartie
05-09-2023, 03:15 PM
It's funny we've ended up being linked with Montgomery because a clip had come up on my Facebook reels a couple of weeks back that was Alex Bruce talking about pranksters, and he spoke about having witnessed Robert Snodgrass doing a few prank calls over the years.
There some stuff online where Snodgrass himself talks about one that he did on Montgomery backfiring and he felt awful about it. Seemingly he'd called Montgomery impersonating the person who does the Scotland call ups and said he was due to be in the next Scotland squad etc. Montgomery was apparently desperate to play for Scotland and at this point his mum was ill (not known by Snodgrass) and she'd have loved to have seen him play for Scotland, so his disappointment when it turned out to be a prank was pretty crushing.
It's just weird that a guy I remember being in a Sheffield United team I had on Championship Manager yonks ago disappeared from my awareness for ages, reappears on this clip and then shortly after becomes heavily linked with the Hibs manager job.
If anyone suggests Snodgrass as an "out of contract" option, it's probably not going to go anywhere if Montgomery gets the job.
big gogs
05-09-2023, 03:39 PM
[QUOTE=Vault Boy;7461567]Me? Well, I’m a Monty man. My father is a Monty man, and his father before him. I come from a long line of Monty men. #AnnounceMonty
Jim44
05-09-2023, 03:51 PM
[QUOTE=Vault Boy;7461567]Me? Well, I’m a Monty man. My father is a Monty man, and his father before him. I come from a long line of Monty men. #AnnounceMonty
You sound like a ‘full Monty’.
Greencore
05-09-2023, 03:52 PM
It's funny we've ended up being linked with Montgomery because a clip had come up on my Facebook reels a couple of weeks back that was Alex Bruce talking about pranksters, and he spoke about having witnessed Robert Snodgrass doing a few prank calls over the years.
There some stuff online where Snodgrass himself talks about one that he did on Montgomery backfiring and he felt awful about it. Seemingly he'd called Montgomery impersonating the person who does the Scotland call ups and said he was due to be in the next Scotland squad etc. Montgomery was apparently desperate to play for Scotland and at this point his mum was ill (not known by Snodgrass) and she'd have loved to have seen him play for Scotland, so his disappointment when it turned out to be a prank was pretty crushing.
It's just weird that a guy I remember being in a Sheffield United team I had on Championship Manager yonks ago disappeared from my awareness for ages, reappears on this clip and then shortly after becomes heavily linked with the Hibs manager job.
If anyone suggests Snodgrass as an "out of contract" option, it's probably not going to go anywhere if Montgomery gets the job.
Life's a simulation.
Hibbyradge
05-09-2023, 04:03 PM
Life's a simulation.
It's a minestrone.
leith lynx
05-09-2023, 04:24 PM
It's a minestrone.
Or a cold lasagne.
Hibbyradge
05-09-2023, 04:28 PM
Or a cold lasagne.
That's death! :shocked:
Lancs Harp
05-09-2023, 04:28 PM
Born and grew up in England but has Australian citizenship. Played for Scotland under 21.
He's a Leeds lad. Played over 350 games for SheffU.
hibeejeebies
05-09-2023, 04:48 PM
His assistant, Raimundo, said in the article, that he and Montgomery had ambitions to manage in the Premier League. Fine by me, as long as they earn the right by giving us a couple of good years and get us back on the rails again.
Purely for the name Sergio Raimundo, get it done Hibs.
Purely for the name Sergio Raimundo, get it done Hibs.
Rolls off the tongue, Hibs assistant manager Sergio Raimundo, love it. :aok:
Greencore
05-09-2023, 06:14 PM
Monty monty monty monty monty
Onion
05-09-2023, 06:24 PM
I am liking the sound of this and it feels like an imaginative appointment. I hope it is true.
Maloney was just as imaginative. Hibs Board are in no position to cock this one up, as most of there previous efforts have cost the club and fans £££. For everyone's sake, this better work out :greengrin
Viva_Palmeiras
05-09-2023, 06:43 PM
Rolls off the tongue, Hibs assistant manager Sergio Raimundo, love it. :aok:
lit the pundits can’t pronounce “Jair” properly he’s not a chance.
lit he’s Portuguese /Brazilian then the ‘R’ is not pronounced as it seems… it would be “Hi-mundo”
Springbank
05-09-2023, 06:56 PM
Maloney was just as imaginative. Hibs Board are in no position to cock this one up, as most of there previous efforts have cost the club and fans £££. For everyone's sake, this better work out :greengrin
I missed the trophy maloney won as a boss
CapitalGreen
05-09-2023, 06:57 PM
Maloney was just as imaginative. Hibs Board are in no position to cock this one up, as most of there previous efforts have cost the club and fans £££. For everyone's sake, this better work out :greengrin
Maloney had never been a manager and had zero experience coaching a football club first team.
Montgomery is a manager and has at least 5 years experience coaching a football club first team.
The Spaceman
05-09-2023, 07:07 PM
Maloney had never been a manager and had zero experience coaching a football club first team.
Montgomery is a manager and has at least 5 years experience coaching a football club first team.
But Lennon doing OK in Cyprus and winning a cup is better eh?
Keepthefaith
05-09-2023, 07:15 PM
Why have we got 2 threads on the exact same topic? Even by .net standards that's some going to duplicate the same old arguments!
bingo70
05-09-2023, 07:16 PM
Why have we got 2 threads on the exact same topic? Even by .net standards that's some going to duplicate the same old arguments!
This one should solely be about Montgomery. The other one was discussing all possible candidates.
HoboHarry
05-09-2023, 07:18 PM
Why have we got 2 threads on the exact same topic? Even by .net standards that's some going to duplicate the same old arguments!
Why have we got 2 threads on the exact same topic? Even by .net standards that's some going to duplicate the same old arguments!
:greengrin
CapitalGreen
05-09-2023, 07:18 PM
But Lennon doing OK in Cyprus and winning a cup is better eh?
Sorry you’ve lost me. What’s the relevance of what Lennon did in Cyprus to a comparison between Montgomery and Maloney’s experience?
greenlex
05-09-2023, 07:23 PM
Why have we got 2 threads on the exact same topic? Even by .net standards that's some going to duplicate the same old arguments!
:greengrin
:thumbsup:
Greencore
05-09-2023, 08:07 PM
Why have we got 2 threads on the exact same topic? Even by .net standards that's some going to duplicate the same old arguments!
To annoy people.
Nailsea Hibby
05-09-2023, 08:17 PM
Well after starting out the process wanting Lennon back, I must say my mind has been turned by all the Monty chat. Seems like he could bring the same levels of excitement we got in Lennons best season with us with a steely edge too…without the baggage of Lennon. Win win
Must say i agree now
Wilson
05-09-2023, 09:53 PM
Why have we got 2 threads on the exact same topic? Even by .net standards that's some going to duplicate the same old arguments!
:greengrin
Cos admin deleted the third one!
bingo70
06-09-2023, 07:18 AM
https://keepup.com.au/news/jose-mourinho-a-league-grand-final-central-coast-mariners-tickets-preview-sergio-raimundo/
Interview here with Sergio Raimundo, Montgomery’s assistant.
Interesting that he coached the team in the age group below Jota, I think that was Jair’s team. I wonder if he might make a player out of the lad yet.
Alan62
06-09-2023, 07:56 AM
I think Celtic would see Hibs managers as beneath them these days to be honest. Their fans would want a big name.
At 10 letters, MONTGOMERY is well above average for a surname.
sauzeelegod
06-09-2023, 08:46 AM
I’ve been reading up on Monty the last few days, seen a lot of interviews and watched a load of CCM highlights.
Although he seems to favour a 442 it looks like the wingers come inside and play almost as 10’s with the fullbacks overlapping so at times it’s more of a 4222 with a box midfield.
There’s no doubt if it is him there’s a risk, but as others have said no manager is risk free.
He seems to favour a high press and fast flowing football.
Let’s hope it’s a return to the Mogga days.
eastmainsmsh
06-09-2023, 08:57 AM
https://keepup.com.au/news/jose-mourinho-a-league-grand-final-central-coast-mariners-tickets-preview-sergio-raimundo/
Interview here with Sergio Raimundo, Montgomery’s assistant.
Interesting that he coached the team in the age group below Jota, I think that was Jair’s team. I wonder if he might make a player out of the lad yet.
2030 Jair with champions league medal lifts Jersey to reveal t shirt are u watching Lee Johnson
WeeRussell
06-09-2023, 10:46 AM
Rolls off the tongue, Hibs assistant manager Sergio Raimundo, love it. :aok:
That’s no how you spell Smithers.
WeeRussell
06-09-2023, 10:48 AM
I'm old enough to remember that summer when the press were full of the following comments:
"Ange who?"
"An Australian manager will never win in Scotland"
"no experience of the Scottish game"
"all very well saying 'We Never Stop' in Japanese football, but will it work on a cold Tuesday night in Dingwall"
It wasn't right then, and it ain't now.
I'm all for Montgomery
At least one of our posters were laughing at him after his first few games insisting he’d be out of a job before Christmas and was absolutely clueless. He didn’t half prove a lot of ‘experts’ wrong and I’m glad he’s departed that lot.
GreenGray
06-09-2023, 10:52 AM
Think it’s been posted above but would recommend to everyone to watch the All Access of the A League Final on YouTube.
All the players seem to love NM and looks to have created a real good family oriented atmosphere.
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AlbertK86
06-09-2023, 11:43 AM
2030 Jair with champions league medal lifts Jersey to reveal t shirt are u watching Lee Johnson
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