Gray and McGregor

[keep the faith]

That would be my pick. Lewis part of the management team too.
Whoever gets the gig will not have any budget left for their own players, so we need a management team to get the best out of what we have.
Gray and Daz understand how to set up a defence and defend crosses- a huge priority for us now. They understand the club and the demands. Daz has been with the development squad the last 18 months so who better to understand what we have there and finally transition to the full squad.
Another reality is cost too. Another manager paid off and comp from killie or St mirren for a new one will be significant.
I know I may be on my own here, but its a pragmatic option.

[duffers]

No thanks.

Love them, but they ain’t ready

[Cat Stanton]

That would be my pick. Lewis part of the management team too.
Whoever gets the gig will not have any budget left for their own players, so we need a management team to get the best out of what we have.
Gray and Daz understand how to set up a defence and defend crosses- a huge priority for us now. They understand the club and the demands. Daz has been with the development squad the last 18 months so who better to understand what we have there and finally transition to the full squad.
Another reality is cost too. Another manager paid off and comp from killie or St mirren for a new one will be significant.
I know I may be on my own here, but its a pragmatic option.

David Gray is everyone's hero. But his previous stints as interim manager didn't have anyone screaming for him to be made permanent.

[A Hi-Bee]

No thanks, perhaps in 5 or so years time.

[Daily Hibs]

Absolutely not.

We need someone with no connection to the club but knows the Scottish game.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Neither Gray or Lewis strike me as management types.
Sir David obviously keen to develop as a coach but that's where it stops. Not sure about Lewis but I can see him away from football all together when he retires.
Big Daz on the otherhand... could be a more cultured and astute version of John Hughes.

[HendoDelivered]

🤣🤣 nah

[Irish_Steve]

SDG has said on numerous occasions that he does want the job full time

[MWHIBBIES]

That would be my pick. Lewis part of the management team too.
Whoever gets the gig will not have any budget left for their own players, so we need a management team to get the best out of what we have.
Gray and Daz understand how to set up a defence and defend crosses- a huge priority for us now. They understand the club and the demands. Daz has been with the development squad the last 18 months so who better to understand what we have there and finally transition to the full squad.
Another reality is cost too. Another manager paid off and comp from killie or St mirren for a new one will be significant.
I know I may be on my own here, but its a pragmatic option.

Why has our defense only got worse since Gray has been a coach, then? Its just not true that good defenders can actually coach a defense as managers.

[6-2MAGIC]

Nah, not for me. Already had our hands burnt with Maloney. We need someone with a bit of experience.

[Pretty Boy]

No way.

Putting sentiment aside there is almost no argument to be made for the 3 of them getting the job.

[Smartie]

Why has our defense only got worse since Gray has been a coach, then? Its just not true that good defenders can actually coach a defense as managers.

Because we don't have players like Gray, McGregor and Ambrose playing in it?

[Smartie]

Nah, not for me. Already had our hands burnt with Maloney. We need someone with a bit of experience.

Gray already has close hand experience of several ways to dick managing Hibs up, which must count for something.

[the_ginger_hibee]

SDG has said on numerous occasions that he does want the job full time

No surprise really. Job for life with 0 accountability, watching as the ideas and work you contribute leads to yet more on the pitch failure & yet another sacking of your colleagues. Cushy number.

[Vault Boy]

Lewis has been quite open about wanting to coach kids when his time is up as he’s not outgoing enough to go into senior management or the like.

[LunasBoots]

No, we've seen Gray in a caretaker role and it wasn't great either, not ready

[MWHIBBIES]

Because we don't have players like Gray, McGregor and Ambrose playing in it?

Gray was, in my opinion, never a better defender than Hanlon or Stevenson anyway. Levels below Ambrose.

Legend no doubt, but he is woefully under qualified to be our manager.

[Daily Hibs]

No surprise really. Job for life with 0 accountability, watching as the ideas and work you contribute leads to yet more on the pitch failure & yet another sacking of your colleagues. Cushy number.

Will be Lewy and Hanlon in the same position soon.

[lugz]

No no no no no, can we stop this ex player nonsense, all that would happen there is they'd end up sacked and tanting their legacies.

Sir David is honestly the last person I want to get the job.

[Daily Hibs]

No no no no no, can we stop this ex player nonsense, all that would happen there is they'd end up sacked and tanting their legacies.

Sir David is honestly the last person I want to get the job.

Sensible post. Many on here have this fascination with keeping these guys around the club but I dont see how it benefits us and actually think it does us more harm than good.

Let's be honest we are a football club that is trying to be successful. Its sport and we need to be competitive as possible and that means getting the best people in for every position.

[Box 17]

Let them learn their trade at East Fife or Dumbarton, or somewhere similar, and see how they get on.

[Smartie]

No, we've seen Gray in a caretaker role and it wasn't great either, not ready

I see quite a lot of folk saying this and I don't really get why. Every time he's had to do it he's inherited a team in a bit of a mess and his remit didn't seem to be that it was an audition for the main role rather than to hold the fort until someone else came in. His selections have generally been continuity, going with what went before.

And what we don't know is what he might have been doing in the background to prepare for a manager's role. I'm always mindful that Mowbray was probably our most successful appointment and he'd only had experience as a coach prior to joining us. I don't have a problem with someone getting the Hibs job as their first job, as long as their experience leading up to that has been appropriate and they intend to have the right types around them.

[h1bs4life]

Sensible post. Many on here have this fascination with keeping these guys around the club but I dont see how it benefits us and actually think it does us more harm than good.

Let's be honest we are a football club that is trying to be successful. Its sport and we need to be competitive as possible and that means getting the best people in for every position.

Totally agree love Sir David , looking forward to his testimonial dinner on 09/09/23 and Big Daz but what have they or anyone still at the club done to make people think they would be a good management team.
If they are wanting to be 1st team coaches / managers they should be going elsewhere to learn there trade and if good enough they will come back.

[Lago]

Gray was, in my opinion, never a better defender than Hanlon or Stevenson anyway. Levels below Ambrose.

Legend no doubt, but he is woefully under qualified to be our manager.
Totally agree

[500miles]

I see quite a lot of folk saying this and I don't really get why. Every time he's had to do it he's inherited a team in a bit of a mess and his remit didn't seem to be that it was an audition for the main role rather than to hold the fort until someone else came in. His selections have generally been continuity, going with what went before.

And what we don't know is what he might have been doing in the background to prepare for a manager's role. I'm always mindful that Mowbray was probably our most successful appointment and he'd only had experience as a coach prior to joining us. I don't have a problem with someone getting the Hibs job as their first job, as long as their experience leading up to that has been appropriate and they intend to have the right types around them.

Gray has done quite well given the circumstances of his previous caretaker roles. In fact if you look at the results he got with the players available, he got a 4 0 win in his last game with a forward line of Scott, Melkersen and Henderson.

I think his overall record is 3 wins 2 draws and 3 losses ( including the cip final to celtic)

[ScottB]

He’s set piece coach isn’t he? Not sure you can blame him for our defence being ****

[brog]

Why has our defense only got worse since Gray has been a coach, then? Its just not true that good defenders can actually coach a defense as managers.


What does SDG have to do with our defence?

[500miles]

He’s set piece coach isn’t he? Not sure you can blame him for our defence being ****

Attacking set pieces I think, but I also believe he does 1 to 1 stuff as he was credited with Campbell bagging so many goals.

[ian cruise]

Let them learn their trade at East Fife or Dumbarton, or somewhere similar, and see how they get on.

Thing is, we never look at managers who are successful at this level for our manager. Current process seems to be high profile players going straight in to management or becoming coaches them straight to high profile management (relative to the level they played at) then dropping down.

[SeanWilson]

That would be my pick. Lewis part of the management team too.
Whoever gets the gig will not have any budget left for their own players, so we need a management team to get the best out of what we have.
Gray and Daz understand how to set up a defence and defend crosses- a huge priority for us now. They understand the club and the demands. Daz has been with the development squad the last 18 months so who better to understand what we have there and finally transition to the full squad.
Another reality is cost too. Another manager paid off and comp from killie or St mirren for a new one will be significant.
I know I may be on my own here, but its a pragmatic option.

No.

[jacomo]

No thanks.

Love them, but they ain’t ready


How do we know that?

[HibbyAndy]

Lewis Stevenson on his ain as Manager , He doesn't need a number 2 he IS the number 1 and number 2 rolled into 1 :cb

Only guy i ken that keeps his eyes open when sneezing , No brainer

[leithsansiro]

Love them, but none of the cup winning team should ever touch the Hibs job with a barge pole. It’d only tarnish their reputation, which I think is already beginning to happen to SDG given the number of failed back room staff teams he’s been in

[matty_f]

Why not Sir David Gray and Daz? Think both are qualified, SDG has had an apprenticeship under 3 different managers at the club but has also worked under one of the game’s greatest ever managers at Man United, albeit not directly for long.

McGregor has been working on his coaching over the last couple of seasons.

Aberdeen took Barry Robson, what makes us so different that we’d turn our noses up at SDG and Daz? Assuming that’s the set up they want.

They know Scottish football inside out. They know Hibs as well as anyone. They’re popular but tough figures, very highly respected.

Why can’t this be their time?

Not necessarily saying this is what I would do, but i think there’s a strong case for them.

[Smartie]

Love them, but none of the cup winning team should ever touch the Hibs job with a barge pole. It’d only tarnish their reputation, which I think is already beginning to happen to SDG given the number of failed back room staff teams he’s been in

I don't really buy the "tarnish the reputation" stuff at all.

If you took a poll of Hibbies and asked them what they thought of Blackley, Stanton, Mixu or Sauzee, would anybody suggest that their legacies were tarnished?

Of the golden generation who returned for a second spell that turned out not to be quite as effective as the first, did they tarnish anything?

I think most adults appreciate when someone comes and tries their best for our club. It would need to be a proper car crash tenure with some poor behaviour and then outstaying their welcome for it to really tarnish anything.

I for one appreciate David Gray's current efforts.

[CapitalGreen]

I don't really buy the "tarnish the reputation" stuff at all.

If you took a poll of Hibbies and asked them what they thought of Blackley, Stanton, Mixu or Sauzee, would anybody suggest that their legacies were tarnished?

Of the golden generation who returned for a second spell that turned out not to be quite as effective as the first, did they tarnish anything?

I think most adults appreciate when someone comes and tries their best for our club. It would need to be a proper car crash tenure with some poor behaviour and then outstaying their welcome for it to really tarnish anything.

I for one appreciate David Gray's current efforts.

You missed Yogi from you examples and that list is doing little to convince me that we should hire another ex-player as manager.

[Callum_62]

Personally, I wouldn't

I want a manager that has at least some experience of doing it

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[ian cruise]

Why not Sir David Gray and Daz? Think both are qualified, SDG has had an apprenticeship under 3 different managers at the club but has also worked under one of the game’s greatest ever managers at Man United, albeit not directly for long.

McGregor has been working on his coaching over the last couple of seasons.

Aberdeen took Barry Robson, what makes us so different that we’d turn our noses up at SDG and Daz? Assuming that’s the set up they want.

They know Scottish football inside out. They know Hibs as well as anyone. They’re popular but tough figures, very highly respected.

Why can’t this be their time?

Not necessarily saying this is what I would do, but i think there’s a strong case for them.

If we look at the overwhelming sentiment on this board when Aberdeen appointed Robson and Hearts appointed Naismith it suggests our support wouldn't give them much time to find their feet. Additionally it looks like Robson's new manager bounce has begun to wane already.

[jacomo]

You missed Yogi from you examples and that list is doing little to convince me that we should hire another ex-player as manager.


I think Smartie’s point is valid. The fans who remember Yogi as a player would no doubt happily blether with him about that, his stint as manager didn’t end on a high note but he’s hardly unique in that.

[Greenworld]

It's a massive no from Me. David gray has been very we treated by the club rightly so but I think his time is coming to a end.

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[jeffers]

It's a massive no from Me. David gray has been very we treated by the club rightly so but I think his time is coming to a end.

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Very well treated ? In what way exactly ?

[timewilltell]

That would be my pick. Lewis part of the management team too.
Whoever gets the gig will not have any budget left for their own players, so we need a management team to get the best out of what we have.
Gray and Daz understand how to set up a defence and defend crosses- a huge priority for us now. They understand the club and the demands. Daz has been with the development squad the last 18 months so who better to understand what we have there and finally transition to the full squad.
Another reality is cost too. Another manager paid off and comp from killie or St mirren for a new one will be significant.
I know I may be on my own here, but it’s pragmatic option.

Sentimental nonsense….

[jacomo]

Sentimental nonsense….


Why? Naismith and Robson had no more experience when they took over at Hearts and Aberdeen and both are doing better than us.

[matty_f]

Why? Naismith and Robson had no more experience when they took over at Hearts and Aberdeen and both are doing better than us.

If anything i think SDG has more coaching experience than them.

I get the idea that they should cut their teeth elsewhere but if they do that, they’d need to hope to get a job at a bigger small club like Partick, Raith, Dunfermline etc but the chances of them getting that AND also getting a record there that’s sufficient for us as a support to shoo them into the job when it comes up next, are really slim. Even if they do well.

Players getting into management generally need a break and to be in the right place at the right time. I think if they don’t get it this time, they probably never will.

[CapitalGreen]

Why? Naismith and Robson had no more experience when they took over at Hearts and Aberdeen and both are doing better than us.

1 win in 8 league games Barry Robson?

2 wins in 8 league games Steven Naismith?

[at last 61]

Tin hat on here but what does sdg actually do at Easter road, is he not supposed to be the defence coach

[Hibernian Verse]

Why? Naismith and Robson had no more experience when they took over at Hearts and Aberdeen and both are doing better than us.

Oh what I'd do for 2 points on the board. Aberdeen really are setting the heather alight.

[Roxyhibee]

Tin hat on here but what does sdg actually do at Easter road, is he not supposed to be the defence coach

We were wondering this - is this Gray’s actual role at the club..? If it is, we clearly need someone else to take over that job asap.!

[Daily Hibs]

Why not Sir David Gray and Daz? Think both are qualified, SDG has had an apprenticeship under 3 different managers at the club but has also worked under one of the game’s greatest ever managers at Man United, albeit not directly for long.

McGregor has been working on his coaching over the last couple of seasons.

Aberdeen took Barry Robson, what makes us so different that we’d turn our noses up at SDG and Daz? Assuming that’s the set up they want.

They know Scottish football inside out. They know Hibs as well as anyone. They’re popular but tough figures, very highly respected.

Why can’t this be their time?

Not necessarily saying this is what I would do, but i think there’s a strong case for them.

Absolutely not. They are nowhere near experienced enough.

I fear for the club's Premier status if they are appointed.

[Daily Hibs]

Tin hat on here but what does sdg actually do at Easter road, is he not supposed to be the defence coach

If so, how can he possibly even be considered to be next manager.

Madness if so.

[Torto7]

I've got any of Gray, Lenny and McInnis as acceptable.

[Daily Hibs]

Interestingly only 1 vote for Gray on the poll thread.

Clear front runners are

McInnes
Lennon
O'Neill

[Scooter]

After watching his interview. If there's no one who currently stands out. Then I'd rather give David the chance

[Greenbeard]

After watching his interview. If there's no one who currently stands out. Then I'd rather give David the chance
I thought the opposite. Seemed uncomfortable, lacking in confidence and gravitas. But I grant you, he shouldn't be judged on how well he comes across in an interview.

[Just Alf]

Tin hat on here but what does sdg actually do at Easter road, is he not supposed to be the defence coach
We were wondering this - is this Gray’s actual role at the club..? If it is, we clearly need someone else to take over that job asap.!He's the set piece coach.

Someone mentioned the other day that stats wise we were 2nd only to Celtic last season on that aspect.

[Onion]

It's a No from me. Few ex-players end up as successful managers. Frank Sauzee's appointment still sends a shiver, and destroyed his relationship with the club. Would hate to see that happen with SDG.

[RossScott1991]

Why can’t we stop crosses and concede soo many with Gray as a coach that’s what I’d want to know never mind him being manager

[green day]

Why can’t we stop crosses and concede soo many with Gray as a coach that’s what I’d want to know never mind him being manager

He isnt the defence coach................

[superfurryhibby]

Why can’t we stop crosses and concede soo many with Gray as a coach that’s what I’d want to know never mind him being manager

He doesn’t get to sign, then choose the players or formations maybe?

[Daily Hibs]

Why can’t we stop crosses and concede soo many with Gray as a coach that’s what I’d want to know never mind him being manager

Would be a boys club appointment if it happened.

[Daily Hibs]

After watching his interview. If there's no one who currently stands out. Then I'd rather give David the chance

Why is he saying its a "great occasion" tie is over, we lost 5-0 at home and are 5-0 down on aggregate.

[Callum_62]

Why is he saying its a "great occasion" tie is over, we lost 5-0 at home and are 5-0 down on aggregate.The reaction if Lee Johnson said that [emoji23]

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[Scooter]

Why is he saying its a "great occasion" tie is over, we lost 5-0 at home and are 5-0 down on aggregate.

Because they players may never get the chance as individuals to play in a Premiership stadium against Premiership opposition again. So for them it is still a great occasion

[CropleyWasGod]

Why is he saying its a "great occasion" tie is over, we lost 5-0 at home and are 5-0 down on aggregate.

Because we have a chance to pull off either the biggest comeback in world fitba history, or record the biggest aggregate loss.

Of course it's a great occasion.

[500miles]

Why can’t we stop crosses and concede soo many with Gray as a coach that’s what I’d want to know never mind him being manager

Surely this has been posted and answered so many times in the last few days the next person who asks gets a ban for trolling?!:wink:

[Lago]

The reaction if Lee Johnson said that [emoji23]

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Slavering springs to mind

[J-C]

For the umpteenth time Gray is the set piece coach and the attacking set piece stats were 2nd behind Celtic last season, he had nothing to do with the defence.

[Hibi]

Because they players may never get the chance as individuals to play in a Premiership stadium against Premiership opposition again. So for them it is still a great occasion

Exactly. Also the fact thousands of hibs fans are making the journey would be another indication of it being a big occasion.

[CapitalGreen]

For the umpteenth time Gray is the set piece coach and the attacking set piece stats were 2nd behind Celtic last season, he had nothing to do with the defence.

Is that all he does? Just the set pieces? Like what does he do the rest of the time when we aren’t working on set pieces? Is he our Austin McPhee?

[CropleyWasGod]

Is that all he does? Just the set pieces? Like what does he do the rest of the time when we aren’t working on set pieces? Is he our Austin McPhee?

Sets the table for lunch, obvs.

With all the salt and pepper cellars in the right places.....

[J-C]

Is that all he does? Just the set pieces? Like what does he do the rest of the time when we aren’t working on set pieces? Is he our Austin McPhee?

Does one on one sessions with some players, credited for Campbell scoring more goals last season.

[Mikey_1875]

Has anyone got a link to the stat for goals from set pieces last season? I’d also be interested to see how we performed in the goals conceded from set plays as well. I’d assume SDG would be responsible for that as well?

Can’t find much on google.