Feeling dissapointed

[Iain G]

Am feeling very disappointed it didn't work out with Lee, thought with his background, experience and how he presented himself on appointment, with the backing of Ron and co, and how he rescued last season from being a disaster that we could kick on this year.

It's clear a lot of people are happy to see the back of him and he was on a shoogly peg so was only a matter of time this year, but I am disappointed for Hibs that this didn't work.

And we are back at square one, no manager, players that may not suit the new managers style or way of working, with another clear out/raft of new signings over a number of windows to allow whoever it is to build their team, if they get the time to do so.

Or it's rinse and repeat all over again in 12-18 months.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I’m ****ing delighted.

If you’d asked me this time last year if I’d be disappointed I’d have said yes. Having watched his team for a season, I’m thrilled he’s gone.

As for players that may or may not match the new managers style, they didn’t match this managers ‘ style’ (lol) anyway, so I don’t see why that’s an issue.

[Iain G]

I’m ****ing delighted.

If you’d asked me this time last year if I’d be disappointed I’d have said yes. Having watched his team for a season, I’m thrilled he’s gone.

As for players that may or may not match the new managers style, they didn’t match this managers ‘ style’ (lol) anyway, so I don’t see why that’s an issue.

Good for you, I hope you are happy with another year or so of endless change and transition to get to a place that we never seem to get to. It's like pushing a giant boulder up a hill only for it to roll back to the bottom again before we get more than halfway up.

[H18 SFR]

I’m disappointed as well because ultimately we have to break this cycle of hire and fire. As long as it is happening we will not be meeting our objectives or be successful.

After the Maloney appointment I know the board went for experience in appointing a guy with 450 games as a manager under his belt. I am sure they will be as gutted as us that this has been another unsuccessful appointment. We have to hope that they will learn from that aspect as well - hopefully BMcD influences that process positively.

I suspect we will go for someone at the midpoint between Maloney and LJ experience wise, maybe 200ish games under their belt. I don’t think it will be one of the names mentioned by contributors here over the manager related threads.

[Since452]

I feel the same way. Was really excited about the appointment and enjoyed listening to him. Genuinely liked the guy and wanted him to succeed. Thought we played some terrific stuff under him at times and we we're very unfortunate not to end up 3rd last season. But as usual when it goes bad at Hibs it goes really bad. We've spent too much to just wait and see what happens. His sacking was correct. At least he has a cracking European win on his CV. Really disappointed it didn't work out. Wish him the best. We move on.

[jacomo]

It’s undoubtedly disappointing it didn’t work out - I was never sold on LJ, and to be honest think he’s a bit of a buffoon, but I really hoped it would work.

Anyone who claims to be ‘delighted’ is just revelling in Hibs falling short, which is a weird thing for a supporter to do.

[matty_f]

Am feeling very disappointed it didn't work out with Lee, thought with his background, experience and how he presented himself on appointment, with the backing of Ron and co, and how he rescued last season from being a disaster that we could kick on this year.

It's clear a lot of people are happy to see the back of him and he was on a shoogly peg so was only a matter of time this year, but I am disappointed for Hibs that this didn't work.

And we are back at square one, no manager, players that may not suit the new managers style or way of working, with another clear out/raft of new signings over a number of windows to allow whoever it is to build their team, if they get the time to do so.

Or it's rinse and repeat all over again in 12-18 months.

I agree with the sentiment here. It was 100% the right decision, but I desperately wanted him to succeed and to deliver what he promised, as I will the next manager. Three guys who did their best for the club have lost their job, and we now have to hope that Brian McDermott's got enough talent and contacts to cherry pick a better manager.

The move is right for the club, and I'm glad that the decision was taken but I'm 100% with you that the overriding feeling is disappointment. We're barely further forward than we were a year ago so to be starting again is absolutely disappointing.

[CropleyisGod]

Whilst clearly not clever to be changing managers every 18 months, LJ was an odd choice IMHO. Maloney made more sense given the heights he had worked at and his technical knowledge. Perhaps he should have been protected better? We have to play safe now with a coach who puts defensive solidity first, clear shape and simple instructions. If LJ had a scooby, it was all in his head.


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[Is It On....]

Am feeling very disappointed it didn't work out with Lee, thought with his background, experience and how he presented himself on appointment, with the backing of Ron and co, and how he rescued last season from being a disaster that we could kick on this year.

It's clear a lot of people are happy to see the back of him and he was on a shoogly peg so was only a matter of time this year, but I am disappointed for Hibs that this didn't work.

And we are back at square one, no manager, players that may not suit the new managers style or way of working, with another clear out/raft of new signings over a number of windows to allow whoever it is to build their team, if they get the time to do so.

Or it's rinse and repeat all over again in 12-18 months.

His managerial win rate is 40% and at Hibs its 38.5% (including cup games) so he has delivered in line with what should have been expected. I would argue given the constant changing of the team that the current set of players did not suit Johnson's style (if he even has one). I am relieved that he has gone and believe he is on a downward spiral in his managerial career.

[Jones28]

I remember feeling an overwhelming sense of “meh” when he was appointed. He was very much my reserve option but I felt buzzed at the idea of Roy Keane, then the idea of the guy who ended up at Blackburn bringing something different.

When we opted for the football league option I was disappointed but nevertheless wanted him to do well.

[Col2]

Never like to hear about anyone being sacked but my overriding emotion today is not one of disappointment but more of hope and relief.

We have a decent squad with a couple of defensive additions and much better manager we will fly up the league.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

For avoidance of doubt the number of games someone has managed is in of itself clearly not the best indicator… one thing I’ve levelled against LJ is despite his experience he’s not learned and esp at Hibs not managed to get a consistent tune out of the players at his disposal.

if I were conducting the interview I’d be asking what lessons have the candidates learned and the impact of their changes based on those learnings and whether they were sustained. I’d also ask them to point to examples of changing the course of a game.

[WhileTheChief..]

It's a fresh start, that's got to be a positive.

At least we've got a chance now. If we'd stuck with him we'd be bouncing around the bottom of the league all season.

[Johnny_Leith]

I'm disappointed too. I was hoping that we'd push on to a period of stability and start to build a good team.

Feels like we are in constant transitional period. We've signed too many poor players over the last few years who are on long contracts. Whoever they bring in has one hell of a job on their hands.

[Donegal Hibby]

Am feeling very disappointed it didn't work out with Lee, thought with his background, experience and how he presented himself on appointment, with the backing of Ron and co, and how he rescued last season from being a disaster that we could kick on this year.

It's clear a lot of people are happy to see the back of him and he was on a shoogly peg so was only a matter of time this year, but I am disappointed for Hibs that this didn't work.

And we are back at square one, no manager, players that may not suit the new managers style or way of working, with another clear out/raft of new signings over a number of windows to allow whoever it is to build their team, if they get the time to do so.

Or it's rinse and repeat all over again in 12-18 months.

I agree I'm also feeling very disappointed it didn't work out though felt after the Livingston game we had to act . I'm really fed up with the constant changing of Managers and seems like the club is stuck in a rut tbh .

Hopefully the next appointment we make will be a good one and we will see better days ahead and the club will get some stability which I think it badly needs . One can only hope 🤞

[JohnM1875]

I agree I'm also feeling very disappointed it didn't work out though felt after the Livingston game we had to act . I'm really fed up with the constant changing of Managers and seems like the cub is stuck in a rut tbh .

Hopefully the next appointment we make will be a good one and we will see better days ahead and the club will get some stability which I think it badly needs . One can only hope 🤞

Is it that out of the ordinary though? Maloney, sure. But Ross and LJ is probably the usual lifespan of a manager these days. We're not the only club like that.

Obviously you have top tier managers who are at a club for a good few seasons. But more often than not is probably around a season to two seasons in charge.

If we get a manager in who absolutely smashes it you think they be here longer than a two seasons? No chance.

[B.H.F.C]

Will always be disappointed when we sack a manager because it means we’re not doing well.

At the point in time we’re at, I’m not disappointed the decision has been made though. It had to be done.

[ian cruise]

I didn't know a huge amount before him before he was appointed. When he came in I had a good feeling and last season there was enough positive points that I really thought we'd kick on this season but it's obvious that wasn't the case. Right decision to sack him but I'm sad it didn't work out. I really thought we'd finally found a manager who have us throwing caution to the wind and playing fast attacking football.

[Donegal Hibby]

Is it that out of the ordinary though? Maloney, sure. But Ross and LJ is probably the usual lifespan of a manager these days. We're not the only club like that.

Obviously you have top tier managers who are at a club for a good few seasons. But more often than not is probably around a season to two seasons in charge.

If we get a manager in who absolutely smashes it you think they be here longer than a two seasons? No chance.

Maybe it is though I feel it's not good tbh . It's been almost like a revolving door of managers these last few years. Manager comes in , signs some players , he's then sacked and the new manager is appointed he wants to offload previous manager's players which he does , he's then sacked and so it goes on and on . It would be nice to get a manager for maybe 3 or 4 years and have him build a solid team . Maybe I'm asking for too much though 😞

[Trinity Hibee]

Maybe it is though I feel it's not good tbh . It's been almost like a revolving door of managers these last few years. Manager comes in , signs some players , he's then sacked and the new manager is appointed he wants to offload previous manager's players which he does , he's then sacked and so it goes on and on . It would be nice to get a manager for maybe 3 or 4 years and have him build a solid team . Maybe I'm asking for too much though 😞

Well that was the plan with LJ but if you can’t even get the basics right then you aren’t going to be kept on

[JohnM1875]

Maybe it is though I feel it's not good tbh . It's been almost like a revolving door of managers these last few years. Manager comes in , signs some players , he's then sacked and the new manager is appointed he wants to offload previous manager's players which he does , he's then sacked and so it goes on and on . It would be nice to get a manager for maybe 3 or 4 years and have him build a solid team . Maybe I'm asking for too much though 😞

Aw not at all, mate. I agree modern football is a total circus when it comes to manager and longevity. Sad state of affairs

[Jones28]

Maybe it is though I feel it's not good tbh . It's been almost like a revolving door of managers these last few years. Manager comes in , signs some players , he's then sacked and the new manager is appointed he wants to offload previous manager's players which he does , he's then sacked and so it goes on and on . It would be nice to get a manager for maybe 3 or 4 years and have him build a solid team . Maybe I'm asking for too much though 😞

The DOF is meant to go some way towards preventing it being that a manager signs on but wants to completely rebuild the squad. There shouldn’t need to be a rebuild with a DOF because there’s a consistent strategy in place.

[SlickShoes]

Am feeling very disappointed it didn't work out with Lee, thought with his background, experience and how he presented himself on appointment, with the backing of Ron and co, and how he rescued last season from being a disaster that we could kick on this year.

It's clear a lot of people are happy to see the back of him and he was on a shoogly peg so was only a matter of time this year, but I am disappointed for Hibs that this didn't work.

And we are back at square one, no manager, players that may not suit the new managers style or way of working, with another clear out/raft of new signings over a number of windows to allow whoever it is to build their team, if they get the time to do so.

Or it's rinse and repeat all over again in 12-18 months.

I see your point but also, what was Lee's style? we had been told about the way we were going to play for 15 months now and it never materialised, twice in important games he's stuck a young centre half at right back.

When we did win, it seemed to be because some of the players played well, rather than the tactics or style we were employing. I never saw any identity in the way we played at any point and that's the biggest thing that makes me wonder what was he building? or was he just picking 11 players and hoping for the best?

[JammyDoidger]

Had some brilliant games under him, some big results, but ultimately he forgot the basics of football, he was driven by data instead of actually watching the game, his chopping and changing of the team didn't help anyone and I think he signed players without signing them to actually fit a style or formation, if we play 4-3-3 we should sign players comfortable or better currently playing that style or formation. The fans just didn't take to him, his interview style came across arrogant like he knew better, let's get one of the proven managers in Scottish football, no more from down south. Lennon or Mciness for me.

[He's here!]

Good for you, I hope you are happy with another year or so of endless change and transition to get to a place that we never seem to get to. It's like pushing a giant boulder up a hill only for it to roll back to the bottom again before we get more than halfway up.

It doesn't feel as though we even get that far. Getting halfway up would suggest we're making steady progress up to that point but it's actually been more like two or three steps back for every one forward. There's zero consistency.

[Bobby's Cinema]

As am I. Wanted it to work with Lee but here we go again.

Another window passing us by with money being spent and players coming in but so many issues in the squad still not adequately addressed. Any new manager is going to inherit the same issues. That is a big concern.

[NAE NOOKIE]

I absolutely get the OPs take on this. Was it time for Johnson to go, yes, it didn't look like he was capable of taking us any further in all honesty. But it's also true that first and foremost we all, everybody, wanted this guy to succeed after a series of sacked managers and on that basis it is disappointing, absolutely so.

But we are where we are ... we can only pray the next guy is the one we have been hoping for, not who he is, but the hoped for anyone who can make the most of the huge potential of this club.

[jeffers]

I’m the exact opposite. Forgetting what’s happened with Johnson I like the excitement of wondering who the new manager will be, ever hopeful that we get it right with the next appointment and the free flowing high press they promise actually comes to fruition.

[Key West]

Am feeling very disappointed it didn't work out with Lee, thought with his background, experience and how he presented himself on appointment, with the backing of Ron and co, and how he rescued last season from being a disaster that we could kick on this year.

It's clear a lot of people are happy to see the back of him and he was on a shoogly peg so was only a matter of time this year, but I am disappointed for Hibs that this didn't work.

And we are back at square one, no manager, players that may not suit the new managers style or way of working, with another clear out/raft of new signings over a number of windows to allow whoever it is to build their team, if they get the time to do so.

Or it's rinse and repeat all over again in 12-18 months.

The first 2 posts on this thread says it all, you are constructive and thoughtful, the second thread says more about ignorance.

[Key West]

Maybe it is though I feel it's not good tbh . It's been almost like a revolving door of managers these last few years. Manager comes in , signs some players , he's then sacked and the new manager is appointed he wants to offload previous manager's players which he does , he's then sacked and so it goes on and on . It would be nice to get a manager for maybe 3 or 4 years and have him build a solid team . Maybe I'm asking for too much though 😞

Logical but wishful thinking mate.

[Daily Hibs]

Am feeling very disappointed it didn't work out with Lee, thought with his background, experience and how he presented himself on appointment, with the backing of Ron and co, and how he rescued last season from being a disaster that we could kick on this year.

It's clear a lot of people are happy to see the back of him and he was on a shoogly peg so was only a matter of time this year, but I am disappointed for Hibs that this didn't work.

And we are back at square one, no manager, players that may not suit the new managers style or way of working, with another clear out/raft of new signings over a number of windows to allow whoever it is to build their team, if they get the time to do so.

Or it's rinse and repeat all over again in 12-18 months.

I'm happy hes gone but will be delighted once all our 2016 dead wood is gone. As good as 2016 was their time is up.

Get McInnes in and lets have sustained success for the club.

[Iain G]

It doesn't feel as though we even get that far. Getting halfway up would suggest we're making steady progress up to that point but it's actually been more like two or three steps back for every one forward. There's zero consistency.

Maybe it's a small series of hills then? 😁

[TheMentalHibees]

How did he rescue last season? Was it exiting the league cup in the group stage? The run of 6 defeats in 7 before the World Cup? The Scottish cup exit at first time of asking? The 1 in 5 wins against hearts? Scraping into the top six because livi drew with st mirren at home right before the split? Losing at least once to every team in the league? In any other season, where hearts and Aberdeen aren’t doing so poorly that they both sack their managers, we’d have been absolutely miles off the pace.

I’m delighted he’s gone, the guy had numerous lucky breaks in his short Hibs career and the luck finally ran out. The season is only a few games old so it’s still a fresh slate for a new manager. Not ideal with the transfer window just about to close but better late than never.

All you had to do to was look at the opinion of the fans of the clubs he’d left before to see what he’s about. A credit taking, blame shifting, excuse making, chopping and changing, nonsense spewing charlatan. They were all chuffed to see the back of him and wishing luck on the next club he was let loose on, much like we will be for whatever unlucky bunch he hoodwinks into appointing him next.


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[jacomo]

I’m the exact opposite. Forgetting what’s happened with Johnson I like the excitement of wondering who the new manager will be, ever hopeful that we get it right with the next appointment and the free flowing high press they promise actually comes to fruition.


Yes we know. Give the new guy til Christmas eh?

[Since452]

Feel deflated and drained by the whole saga. The club and support need a huge lift. Over to you Hibs.

[WhileTheChief..]

I’m the exact opposite. Forgetting what’s happened with Johnson I like the excitement of wondering who the new manager will be, ever hopeful that we get it right with the next appointment and the free flowing high press they promise actually comes to fruition.

I feel the same.

I’d happily keep changing managers until we find the right one. Seems more logical than sticking with someone when it’s clear it isn’t working. I can’t get my head around that thinking at all.

[Smartie]

Any time a manager gets sacked it’s an acknowledgment of a period of failure and that never feels good.

Neither did Saturday feel good though, the football at ER or the atmosphere. He’d lost a huge chunk of the support, wasn’t going to get them back and there was a feeling of inevitability we’d end up here sooner rather than later.

I’ve probably got the least enthusiasm about the search for a new manager than at any point in my time watching Hibs. This is the first year I’ve not had a season ticket since 1997 though, so it fits in with my wider, growing apathy.

[WestStandWillie]

I'm happy hes gone but will be delighted once all our 2016 dead wood is gone. As good as 2016 was their time is up.

Get McInnes in and lets have sustained success for the club.

"2016 dead wood" - are you including Boyle in this, or is it a veiled attack on Hanlon and Stevenson?

[jeffers]

Yes we know. Give the new guy til Christmas eh?

How do “we know” I’ve never posted that before ? :confused:

[SickBoy32]

"2016 dead wood" - are you including Boyle in this, or is it a veiled attack on Hanlon and Stevenson?

I think when the poster uses the word deadwood rather than legends, says it all

Never a hibby best ignored !

[Dashing Bob S]

Didn't know enough about him to be either excited or underwhelmed, but it then seemed he had a decent pedigree and came over as positive and articulate, so I was backing him, all through last season. I saw point in sacking him then, but I believed he really had to get it right after an exciting transfer window, where the club had really backed him.

It seemed to me though, that whatever he had done before, he showed nothing at Hibs, and we had spent money to go backwards. I feel it was time for him to go. It seemed that the players had lost confidence. A couple of friends at the POTY event reckoned he was struggling to fit in, torn between being one of the boys and the aloof authority figure.

I think he has driven to succeed and had the club's interests at heart. But we are a difficult club to manage. So thanks for your efforts Lee, sorry it didn't work out, and you'll probably do well at another club.

Now we have to find someone who can do well at this one...

[Iain G]

I feel the same.

I’d happily keep changing managers until we find the right one. Seems more logical than sticking with someone when it’s clear it isn’t working. I can’t get my head around that thinking at all.

The ongoing cost or firing and hiring and the rebuild that comes every 12-18 months doesn't lead to any kind of stability. That's the frustration of it all.

[Paulie Walnuts]

It’s undoubtedly disappointing it didn’t work out - I was never sold on LJ, and to be honest think he’s a bit of a buffoon, but I really hoped it would work.

Anyone who claims to be ‘delighted’ is just revelling in Hibs falling short, which is a weird thing for a supporter to do.

Na.

We’ve already fell short. I’m delighted he’s gone. That’s not revelling in Hibs falling short, that’s revelling in the fact that things will now almost undoubtedly get better.

[Smartie]

Na.

We’ve already fell short. I’m delighted he’s gone. That’s not revelling in Hibs falling short, that’s revelling in the fact that things will now almost undoubtedly get better.

A bit like they did when we binned Yogi and got Calderwood, or when Fenlon walked and we got Butcher in?

[Paulie Walnuts]

A bit like they did when we binned Yogi and got Calderwood, or when Fenlon walked and we got Butcher in?

We’ve lost every single league game this season. Things are most definitely going to get better, of that I’ve no doubt.

[Smartie]

We’ve lost every single league game this season. Things are most definitely going to get better, of that I’ve no doubt.

Ha ha, fair point.

[I'm Spartacus]

From February 2019 we have paid out 10 1/2 years of contracts to get rid of managers, over and above them being paid while the last 4 were here.

I've no idea if that's how these contracts work, or if they get 12 months regardless, but potentially we've had to cough up for some terrible recruitment, and that's before we even mention the signings that have come, and gone, with them.

[Jones28]

"2016 dead wood" - are you including Boyle in this, or is it a veiled attack on Hanlon and Stevenson?

It's barely veiled, the poster has agenda.

And it's their fault we lost on Saturday because of the culture they've created at the club, according to Daily Hibs.

[Paulie Walnuts]

From February 2019 we have paid out 10 1/2 years of contracts to get rid of managers, over and above them being paid while the last 4 were here.

I've no idea if that's how these contracts work, or if they get 12 months regardless, but potentially we've had to cough up for some terrible recruitment, and that's before we even mention the signings that have come, and gone, with them.
Think it’s been suggested we don’t pay anything like the full contract and it’s the reason we’ve missed out on targets previously.

3 months has been mentioned a few times but to be fair, I think the 3 months was the reason manager(s) have turned us down, so it may be a bit more than that.

I’d be surprised if we’re paying out more than 6 months to a year.

[WhileTheChief..]

The ongoing cost or firing and hiring and the rebuild that comes every 12-18 months doesn't lead to any kind of stability. That's the frustration of it all.

The cost of doing business I guess.

A steady decline in the league finishing in the bottom 4 is also costly. Maybe not on the same scale but it has to be taken into account.

We've had decades or relative stability, hovering around mid table.

When RG came in, he raised the bar on the club's expectations. I bought into that fully and was delighted that we had an owner that wanted the same as myself.

In my view, the club has now made 3 managerial mistakes in sacking JR too soon, then Maloney and LJ. Hopefully they have learnt from these experiences and will be more successful this time.

if the new guy works out well and leaves after two years for bigger things, than all fine and dandy. If we go on another winless run of 11 games, then he'll be under huge pressure and will likely face the sack. That to me, is exactly how it should be.

I'm all for consistency, I just don't want us to be consistently crap. To stick with someone like Maloney or LJ for 4 years simply to avoid change seems like the worst option of all.

We've appointed decent managers in the past, there's nothing to stop us doing so again and enjoying a decent season or 2 before having to find his replacement.

[basehibby]

I see your point but also, what was Lee's style? we had been told about the way we were going to play for 15 months now and it never materialised, twice in important games he's stuck a young centre half at right back.

When we did win, it seemed to be because some of the players played well, rather than the tactics or style we were employing. I never saw any identity in the way we played at any point and that's the biggest thing that makes me wonder what was he building? or was he just picking 11 players and hoping for the best?

I thought I saw a style developing last season - pacy wingers in a 433 where the ball was played forward quickly to play football in the opposition half.

Re LJ's sometimes eccentric looking selections: reading between the lines of his comments I think he leaned heavily (too much maybe) on the hi-tech bio-monitoring tech and was utilising the output of that to help decide his selections - and that's resulted in him starting what looked like weakened lineups after draining midweek euro ties.
For my money that has probably not helped but hindered him - a half fit Russell Latapy for example would probably have been more dangerous to the opposition than most Scottis midfielders at 100%.
I reckon this has been at the root of decisions like dropping Miller for Sat rather than players being out of favour - on balance this approach may have ultimately cost LJ his job - fine margins and all that!

[basehibby]

We’ve lost every single league game this season. Things are most definitely going to get better, of that I’ve no doubt.

There are no certainties in football management appointments. The board need to choose wisely or we could end up accelerating backwards (see Butcher, Calderwood)

[Smartie]

I thought I saw a style developing last season - pacy wingers in a 433 where the ball was played forward quickly to play football in the opposition half.

Re LJ's sometimes eccentric looking selections: reading between the lines of his comments I think he leaned heavily (too much maybe) on the hi-tech bio-monitoring tech and was utilising the output of that to help decide his selections - and that's resulted in him starting what looked like weakened lineups after draining midweek euro ties.
For my money that has probably not helped but hindered him - a half fit Russell Latapy for example would probably have been more dangerous to the opposition than most Scottis midfielders at 100%.
I reckon this has been at the root of decisions like dropping Miller for Sat rather than players being out of favour - on balance this approach may have ultimately cost LJ his job - fine margins and all that!

I agree with every word of this, particularly the explanation for what appeared to be unusual team selections this season.

[kiwihibby]

As someone wrote in a previous thread, I think it may not be a bad idea to offer the post to David Gray and Darren McLaren for the rest of the season. They know the players, the club and Scottish football so that may be a big asset to the club without spending a load of money on some outsider who may follow the steps of our last 3 managers. Just a thought.

[Willis1875]

As someone wrote in a previous thread, I think it may not be a bad idea to offer the post to David Gray and Darren McLaren for the rest of the season. They know the players, the club and Scottish football so that may be a big asset to the club without spending a load of money on some outsider who may follow the steps of our last 3 managers. Just a thought.

It’s not really just about knowing players,the club etc they also have to know what they are doing

[Trinity Hibee]

As someone wrote in a previous thread, I think it may not be a bad idea to offer the post to David Gray and Darren McLaren for the rest of the season. They know the players, the club and Scottish football so that may be a big asset to the club without spending a load of money on some outsider who may follow the steps of our last 3 managers. Just a thought.

Darren McLaren. Nice ring to it

[Since452]

As someone wrote in a previous thread, I think it may not be a bad idea to offer the post to David Gray and Darren McLaren for the rest of the season. They know the players, the club and Scottish football so that may be a big asset to the club without spending a load of money on some outsider who may follow the steps of our last 3 managers. Just a thought.

Darren McLaren out. Imposter.