Youan

[HendoDelivered]

Pass the ball son. He had an absolute mare tonight.

[Chorley Hibee]

Pass the ball son. He had an absolute mare tonight.

He is the least of our worries.

[hibee_girl]

He’s so frustrating. Thinks he can take on a whole team by himself.

[Sylar]

Running the ball out of play rather than putting it into the box summed his evening up perfectly.

[Lee Marvin]

He wouldn't be at hibs if he had a brain.

Imagine how bad we would be without him though

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

Is it better seeing him run with the ball or watch the rest of his team get the ball and give it away every time

[Pedantic_Hibee]

He is the least of our worries.

Correct. Least of our worries by a long way.

[Jim44]

He fits in fine domestically and despite bad decision-making will do well for us, but there’s no denying, he was really poor tonight …….. he was in good company tho’. Totally outclassed as expected.

[Unseen work]

He constantly shows and tries to make things happen through being really brave and not caring who he is up against.

Yes his decision making is poor at times and he does the odd reallt frustrating thing.

But give me that over a safe winger/forward every day.

Funnily enough Youan gets all the stick but Boyle who literally couldn’t stay onside all game and his full back who got acres of room hardly gets the slightest bit of criticism

[lyonhibs]

He thought he was still playing Raith Rovers. Had a couple of moments, but mostly lazy and gash. A bad night at the office but not the primary concern we've got tbh

[weecounty hibby]

Not a team player!

[Andymac85]

Correct. Least of our worries by a long way.

Agreed, at least his pace is a weapon.

[BoomtownHibees]

Correct. Least of our worries by a long way.

Spot on

[SlickShoes]

Can’t really believe people are singling him out tonight, many times people around me are yelling at him to pass when there is nothing on, sure sometimes he doesn’t pass when he should but he’s capable of creating something special and he put in loads of work tonight.

[Rumble de Thump]

When he learns to look up, make good decisions and pass if a team mate is in a better position he will easily be the best player in Scotland.

[Iain G]

Surprised he stayed on the pitch the whole game

[Swedish hibee]

Never a team player.

[Broken Gnome]

Do agree he's our least of our problems, but his refusal to pass was bordering on farcical a few times near the end. Doesn't matter so much if the support he's pissing off, but he'll have a few teammates who increasingly can't be arsed with him.

[Chorley Hibee]

Can’t really believe people are singling him out tonight, many times people around me are yelling at him to pass when there is nothing on, sure sometimes he doesn’t pass when he should but he’s capable of creating something special and he put in loads of work tonight.

Give me Youan over 95% of our squad any day of the week.

The rest would drive an insomniac to sleep.

I'd take him as manager too compared to that slaver.

[Unseen work]

Do agree he's our least of our problems, but his refusal to pass was bordering on farcical a few times near the end. Doesn't matter so much if the support he's pissing off, but he'll have a few teammates who increasingly can't be arsed with him.

That can’t be arsed with him?!

He’s been carrying them for about 6 months.

I bet he can’t be arsed with some of the defending that goes on behind him.

A lot of players will moan at him as he’s the easy target. He’ll over do it and fans will moan so players will moan too when it’s tough.

But he doesn’t let it affect him, gets his head down and produces time and time again.

[Onion]

He wouldn't be at hibs if he had a brain.

Imagine how bad we would be without him though

Exactly. Frustrating a lot of the time, genius at others. If he could make sensible decisions, he would not be at Hibs. We know what we get with Youan, no point in wishing he was something else. As someone else said, he's the very least of Hibs problems. There are a ton of other areas to look at first.

[Since452]

Glad to have have him. Good player at our level. Not Villas.

[Chorley Hibee]

That can’t be arsed with him?!

He’s been carrying them for about 6 months.

I bet he can’t be arsed with some of the defending that goes on behind him.

A lot of players will moan at him as he’s the easy target. He’ll over do it and fans will moan so players will moan too when it’s tough.

But he doesn’t let it affect him, gets his head down and produces time and time again.

Agreed, it's quite scary where I think we would be without him right now.

[SaulGoodman]

Never a team player.

Some amount of assists for someone that’s not a team player.

[The Harp Awakes]

That can’t be arsed with him?!

He’s been carrying them for about 6 months.

I bet he can’t be arsed with some of the defending that goes on behind him.

A lot of players will moan at him as he’s the easy target. He’ll over do it and fans will moan so players will moan too when it’s tough.

But he doesn’t let it affect him, gets his head down and produces time and time again.

Spot on. Youan least of our worries. Played out on the wing and can't be fed as we have 10% possession. Managers tactics horrendous. Blame him.

[Lago]

Pass the ball son. He had an absolute mare tonight.
He didn't have a great game, but he wasn't alone.

[Pretty Boy]

He was the one Hibs player Villa looked a bit wary about.

He's so frustrating but I'd rather him than about 11 or 12 other players in our squad. At least you feel he can do something. With plenty others it's sloppy, placid or a hoof.

[Broken Gnome]

That can’t be arsed with him?!

He’s been carrying them for about 6 months.

I bet he can’t be arsed with some of the defending that goes on behind him.

A lot of players will moan at him as he’s the easy target. He’ll over do it and fans will moan so players will moan too when it’s tough.

But he doesn’t let it affect him, gets his head down and produces time and time again.And that's largely fair enough, I'd probably agree there's a few Hibs players he can quite freely consider himself far superior too. Surely can't be argued there were occasions when he was just plain bad on the ball? Towards the end it wasn't like he was trying things and they weren't coming off - he was just faffing about doing not very much and blanketly refusing to pass a ball when it was the only option on.

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[LunasBoots]

One of our better players tonight I thought

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Running the ball out of play rather than putting it into the box summed his evening up perfectly.

Did that not get brought back by the referee to halfway?

[Greenwich_Hibby]

One of our better players tonight I thought
I agree, couple of poor touches but one of our better performers.

[BoomtownHibees]

Did that not get brought back by the referee to halfway?

Aye was offside

[LaMotta]

How have people not worked out that Youan will repteatedly put in frustrating performances? He will come out with brilliance but you dont know when it will happen so you just have to play him all the time.

Nobody should moan about him, he is what he is.

[Iain G]

I agree, couple of poor touches but one of our better performers.

Better or less **** than some of the others?

Thought Newell was our best player, and Doidge did ok when he came on and added some purpose and energy and desire.

[Unseen work]

And that's largely fair enough, I'd probably agree there's a few Hibs players he can quite freely consider himself far superior too. Surely can't be argued there were occasions when he was just plain bad on the ball? Towards the end it wasn't like he was trying things and they weren't coming off - he was just faffing about doing not very much and blanketly refusing to pass a ball when it was the only option on.

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I think a lot of it is down to his self belief and “I’ll do it myself attitude”. The one that stands out he done brilliantly to beat a couple of men and ran right across their box looking for a shooting oppertunity, then instead of playing it wide to Miller he went to beat another and got tackled.

Hugely frustrating.

But I find out defending for the first 4 goals and allowing Digne to half half the pitch anytime he had the ball far more frustrating than anything Elie did/didn’t do

[Johnny_Leith]

Doesn't hide. Picks the wrong option but he's one of the bright spark in the team. A bad game tonight but he's a good player who will learn and become even better.

[IberianHibernian]

He wasn`t great tonight ( partly because of the strong opposition ) in fact I think he`s been struggling to find last season`s form in every game but he`s still a fantastic player at our level and I fully understand why he often chooses the option not to pass . Jack Rpss`s tactic was give the ball to Boyle , Maloney didn`t have that luxury and now LJ`s tactic is give the ball to Boyle and Youan . Time will tell if that is enough to take us up to a reasonable league position .

[Forza Fred]

He is undoubtedly our most dangerous player, but I agree sometimes his touch, or decision making lets him down, and tonight was no different.

Him running the ball over the bye line when in space had nothing to do with the quality of opposition, it was purely just an embarrassing mistake on his part,…

His habit of not getting back onside quicker is another fault he has, and again, that’s down to him and not the opposition.

Having said that, he is still our most dangerous option up front and I guess there is an argument for saying that if he cut out these quirks of his game, that he probably wouldn’t be at Hibs.

Would be good if they could be coached out of him though while he’s still here.

[Willis1875]

He is undoubtedly our most dangerous players, but I agree sometimes his touch, or decision making lets him down, and tonight was no different.

Him running the ball over the bye line when in space had nothing to with the quality of opposition, it was purely just an embarrassing mistake on his part,…

His habit of not getting back onside quicker is another fault he has, and again, that’s down to him and not the opposition.

Having said that, he is still our most dangerous option up front and I guess there is an argument for saying that if he cut out these quirks of his game, that he probably wouldn’t be at Hibs.

Would be good if they could be coached out of him though while he’s still here.

Coaches have worked with him for a year and he’s doing the same things he’s done since day one,he’s either not listening or the coaching is crap.I know what id lean towards

[Musselbound]

One of our better players tonight I thought

Agree. I thought he still looked our main attacking threat before the game was dead and buried.

[Nutmegged]

He's a very hard watch, he always is, can go from sublime to ridiculous in minutes, you never know what you'll get off him and that's the reason he's at a club like Hibs, he's got enough attributes to make you believe we can get a song out of him but he's just so frustrating.

I'd probably prefer someone with a lower ceiling but a more trust worthy current ability.

[Baader]

Thought he was one of our our better performers and one they paid attention to tonight. Flaws in his game but wingers are frustrating players. He doesn't deserve singling out. Won't have played against that level before, like most of them.

[Heisenberg]

He’s been one of the only positives so far this season. He doesn’t always make good decisions and was poor tonight but who wasn’t.

[The Spaceman]

He’s a fabulous player when he’s on it, but he’s having a streaky start to this season and looks like he is overthinking it.

[Iain G]

He gave the ball away a few times in pretty dangerous positions

[Allant1981]

He clearly has talent but really needs to play the easy pass sometimes

[Hibs90]

By far the least of our worries.

[hibbytam]

He'll learn how and when to pass the ball, and then he'll leave Hibs for loadsamoney

[Walkerbaws]

He’s a passenger every time he plays. Will cost us plenty of goals but come up with a bit of brilliance that might lead to something. We have too many passengers on this team, can’t keep every player on that might just come up with that bit of magic that earns us a draw.

[jacomo]

He is the least of our worries.


:agree:

[Iain G]

:agree:

Joe Newell is the least of our worries surely!?

[SaulGoodman]

He’s a passenger every time he plays. Will cost us plenty of goals but come up with a bit of brilliance that might lead to something. We have too many passengers on this team, can’t keep every player on that might just come up with that bit of magic that earns us a draw.

Terrible take

[JamesS]

Frustrating as to watch. Some poor decisions tonight.
But has scored a few.

[Walkerbaws]

Terrible take

No denying he has quality. But any other manager would’ve hooked him at half time tonight, probably along with Campbell and Boyle. Speedboat without a driver is my take.

[jacomo]

Joe Newell is the least of our worries surely!?


I’m not worried about Newell per se, but how we set up to get the best out of him.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Is Elie Youan French for get past 5 players then lose the ball/ run it out of play?

sheesh…

would appear either he doesn’t listen/learn and/or he’s uncoachable… just don’t get it. The whole stadium and opposition sees it!

[KWJ]

He was the one Hibs player Villa looked a bit wary about.

He's so frustrating but I'd rather him than about 11 or 12 other players in our squad. At least you feel he can do something. With plenty others it's sloppy, placid or a hoof.

Yup, the day he stops running at players thinking he can beat them is the day we've broken him.

[hfcok]

Never ever ever a team player, he’s so damn lazy, the players are getting so irate with him on the pitch.

[Swedish hibee]

Never ever ever a team player, he’s so damn lazy, the players are getting so irate with him on the pitch.

Your not allowed that opinion on here!

[BoomtownHibees]

Never ever ever a team player, he’s so damn lazy, the players are getting so irate with him on the pitch.

In what way is he lazy?

[superbam]

If you don't recognize Youan as a talent (yes, he is with us, he is unpredictable, erratic, brilliant, etc of course) then you may as well give up on trying to squeeze some joy out of football. Maybe it's not for you. Maybe ****n bolt.

[SlickShoes]

He’s a passenger every time he plays. Will cost us plenty of goals but come up with a bit of brilliance that might lead to something. We have too many passengers on this team, can’t keep every player on that might just come up with that bit of magic that earns us a draw.

Absolute nonsense, what costs us goals is inability to defend crosses

[Nicho87]

I’d rather 4 more Youans in than team than some of the players in the squad

He’s at hibs for a reason he’s never Aston Villa level

He will give us moments of brilliance and moments of running the ball out the park.

Love him

[Libby Hibby]

Never ever ever a team player, he’s so damn lazy, the players are getting so irate with him on the pitch.

I’m not sure lazy is an adjective you could use when describing Youan.

[BILLYHIBS]

His countryman Lucas Digne showed him a masterclass in wing play getting up and down that wing helping out at the back and laying the ball on a plate time and time again for his forwards

Olly Watkins another forward/ winger what a baller with three first class finishes

I appreciate these guys are top of their game but what Elie should be aiming that

[Stanton Spence]

He’s really not our problem but it was interesting to see how he reacted when he found out that the opposition players were just as quick as him. It kinda threw him I reckon

[LaMotta]

Is Elie Youan French for get past 5 players then lose the ball/ run it out of play?

sheesh…

would appear either he doesn’t listen/learn and/or he’s uncoachable… just don’t get it. The whole stadium and opposition sees it!


Never ever ever a team player, he’s so damn lazy, the players are getting so irate with him on the pitch.


Your not allowed that opinion on here!

Astonishes me how little people understand about football on here.

Its pretty simple. He has a fairly poor footballing brain, but unbelievable pace, technique and ability. Its rare but when it comes out he will get us goals and assists. The footballing brain situation is why he's at Hibs. But he actually got us through the Luzern away game and the Raith game.

If you aren't seeing that football isnt for you.

[Pete]

The moaning, groaning and booing has got to stop or it will start effecting his confidence. Plus, I don't think he deserves it

[NAE NOOKIE]

Can’t really believe people are singling him out tonight, many times people around me are yelling at him to pass when there is nothing on, sure sometimes he doesn’t pass when he should but he’s capable of creating something special and he put in loads of work tonight.

The problem tonight wasn't that he couldn't pass because there was nothing on. It was the number of times he was closed down, sometimes by two or three opponents he had absolutely no chance of getting past where had a pass on to at least enable us to keep possession and he simply refused to play it, he was robbed of the ball I don't know how many times by trying to dribble his way out of impossible situations rather than play a pass that was clearly available to be played.

There's mercurial, there's eccentric and yes there's doing the unexpected ... but then there's just plain stupid ... too many times tonight Youan was just plain stupid and if I was his manager I would be pointing out that fact in the strongest possible terms.

[SlickShoes]

The problem tonight wasn't that he couldn't pass because there was nothing on. It was the number of times he was closed down, sometimes by two or three opponents he had absolutely no chance of getting past where had a pass on to at least enable us to keep possession and he simply refused to play it, he was robbed of the ball I don't know how many times by trying to dribble his way out of impossible situations rather than play a pass that was clearly available to be played.

There's mercurial, there's eccentric and yes there's doing the unexpected ... but then there's just plain stupid ... too many times tonight Youan was just plain stupid and if I was his manager I would be pointing out that fact in the strongest possible terms.

Do you think maybe his decision making is affected by being closed down by those players? He made some mistakes, there were much worse things to pick on. You have to hope the younger guys in our team can learn from a humbling experience like this, maybe they thought they were all that and now realise how much work they still have to do if they really want to make it further than the SPL

[SunshineOnLeith]

Never ever ever a team player, he’s so damn lazy, the players are getting so irate with him on the pitch.

I wonder why people call Youan lazy, despite him regularly working back and winning the ball in his own half, but the same never gets levelled at Martin Boyle, whose refusal to track back led directly to at least 3 goals tonight.

If only there was some distinguishing characteristic between them. I just can't qwhite put my finger on it.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Do you think maybe his decision making is affected by being closed down by those players? He made some mistakes, there were much worse things to pick on. You have to hope the younger guys in our team can learn from a humbling experience like this, maybe they thought they were all that and now realise how much work they still have to do if they really want to make it further than the SPL

No I don't ... at least 3 times, maybe more, he had the pass staring him in the face that would allowed him to release the ball before he was inevitably dispossessed, it wasn't that he couldn't see it, it wasn't that he didn't have the time to play it ... he just chose not to.

I like Youan, I like that at times his determination to dribble can work out, I can forgive him losing the ball from time to time trying something outrageous. Tonight was simply too much too many times in a game where losing the ball was the last thing a player should be doing.

[Walkerbaws]

Absolute nonsense, what costs us goals is inability to defend crosses

Defending isn’t just for defenders though. It’s a team game and he’s not a team player. Effort is all we are asking for here, not just a billy big time attitude that thinks he can hog the ball, run into dead ends, and run the ball out, that benefits nobody. He’s talented when he’s on his game, if he isn’t then you may as well not play him, we’ve had plenty players that come into Easter road with plenty talent yet whittle away on the bench because they don’t put in the effort when given a chance. Fortunately for Youan, no matter how good or bad he performs, he’s the first name on the team sheet as the manger has no back bone. It showed how good we were in the second half of the home leg of the Lucerne game when Youan went off. Sometimes players need to know and to buck their ideas up in order to get the best out of them.

[JohnM1875]

What on earth was that tonight though eh? Imagine playing on the same team as him tonight? Pass the ****ing ball, Ellie!!

Undoubtedly a player, but he was out for himself tonight and I hate that.

[SHODAN]

Boyle was the exact same. He'll improve.

[007]

Coaches have worked with him for a year and he’s doing the same things he’s done since day one,he’s either not listening or the coaching is crap.I know what id lean towards

Boyle joined us in Jan '15 and he and wasn't good enough to be a regular starter for ages, how do you explain that?

[LaMotta]

Boyle was the exact same. He'll improve.

Both of them stand out because they are faster than most people in Scotland. Tonight they were up against defenders with equal or better pace. Happens when the other team has a £120m annual budget.

[JohnM1875]

Both of them stand out because they are faster than most people in Scotland. Tonight they were up against defenders with equal or better pace. Happens when the other team has a £120m annual budget.

Said the same to my mate. We go on about Boyle and Youan being rapid and they are up here. But not at all when compared to that Villa team.

[basehibby]

The heartening thing is Youan obviously still has so much to learn but is nevertheless one of our most dangerous players. YES absolutely he needs to learn to take on the simple pass when it presents itself and that was never so true than tonight - where he came up against a resolute and talented defence that he got little change out of with his endless dribbling. He has great pace and ability on the ball - if and when he adds a bit more game intelligence we will have a cracking player on our hands.

[OsloHibs]

Astonishes me how little people understand about football on here.

Its pretty simple. He has a fairly poor footballing brain, but unbelievable pace, technique and ability. Its rare but when it comes out he will get us goals and assists. The footballing brain situation is why he's at Hibs. But he actually got us through the Luzern away game and the Raith game.

If you aren't seeing that football isnt for you.

Back to skiing for me then.

[lyonhibs]

Astonishes me how little people understand about football on here.

Its pretty simple. He has a fairly poor footballing brain, but unbelievable pace, technique and ability. Its rare but when it comes out he will get us goals and assists. The footballing brain situation is why he's at Hibs. But he actually got us through the Luzern away game and the Raith game.

If you aren't seeing that football isnt for you.

"Unbelievable" is perhaps over egging the pudding. But there's a player in there, absolutely, and when he's on it he's a great watch. Some of his decision making is so fundamentally wrong, not complicated stuff, that it does drive one up the wall a bit

[WestStandWillie]

A player who can be a greedy sod but also have the ability to change a game. Some of his team mates could take a leaf out his book instead of sitting all comfortable with their slippers on.

Absolutely the least of our problems.

[Broken Gnome]

Don't think anyone's realistically saying the bad outweighs the good with Youan, or that they aren't happy to tolerate some of the bad decisions because of the game changing moments he does bring.

Is it not just the case that some of last night took that to extremes and beyond? I can obviously see that Hibs are a better more attractive team with him in it, but not when he's stuck stationary on the touchline with four men marking him and he still won't pass the ball.

[Andymac85]

I honestly can’t believe people were slagging him off last night. Was the only player Villa were in the least bit concerned about, and the only one constantly showing for the ball even when things started to go really south. It’s the other 10 players you should all be shouting about.

[Sheffhibee]

Is Elie Youan French for get past 5 players then lose the ball/ run it out of play?

sheesh…

would appear either he doesn’t listen/learn and/or he’s uncoachable… just don’t get it. The whole stadium and opposition sees it!
I think people need to remember he's a young guy, he has a lot of raw talent and needs to develop his decision making. Reminds me a lot of Boyler when he came to the club at first

[hibee-boys]

A team without Youan? Did anyone watch the Motherwell game? We offer very little, if anything, offensively when he’s not on the pitch. I get that he’s frustrating as heck and needs to make better decisions but how many goal involvements has he had this year?

[MrRobot]

Great player but needs to learn to pass the ball. Still rather have him in the team than not.

[Keith_M]

Great player but needs to learn to pass the ball. Still rather have him in the team than not.


Agree with this.