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1van Sprou7e
22-08-2023, 12:38 PM
Will Vente get the OK to play?

Might seem crazy but I think we should lineup similar to how we did at home to Luzern by playing to our strengths and getting our best attackers out on the field. Midfield is powderpuff with Levitt out so ALF will have to help out in there, defend in two banks of 4 and break when possible

I'm thinking

------------Marshall-------------
--Miller---Fish---Hanlon---Obita
Boyle---Jeggo---Newell---Youan
---------------ALF---------------
--------------Vente--------------

hibee1875
22-08-2023, 12:39 PM
Will Vente get the OK to play?

Might seem crazy but I think we should lineup similar to how we did at home to Luzern by playing to our strengths and getting our best attackers out on the field. Midfield is powderpuff with Levitt out so ALF will have to help out in there, defend in two banks of 4 and break when possible

I'm thinking

------------Marshall-------------
--Miller---Fish---Hanlon---Obita
Boyle---Jeggo---Newell---Youan
---------------ALF---------------
--------------Vente--------------

Pictures of Vente I’m training looking fine so I would assume he’s all good

Pretty Boy
22-08-2023, 12:40 PM
...Boruc Marshall Johnson....

Miller.Rocky.Fish.Hanlon.Stevenson

....Jeggo.....Newell....

........Vente......


Try and keep it alive for the 2nd leg.

Jones28
22-08-2023, 12:41 PM
I'm really not sure on this, to give us the best possible chance I wonder if we'll go with a 4-1-4-1.


Marshall
Miller Fish Hanlon Stevenson
Jeggo
Boyle Campbell Newall Youan
Vente/Doidge/ALF

5-4-1?


Marshall
Miller Fish Bushiri Hanlon Obita
Boyle Newall Jeggo Youan
Striker - probably Vente

flash
22-08-2023, 12:42 PM
Tough game to pick a team for and I am still waiting for a midfielder coming in before the cut off point.
Presuming that doesn't happen I will go for the following;
Marshall

Fish
Harbottle
Hanlon

Miller
Jeggo
Newall
Obita

Youan
Vente
Boyle.

Could have picked 6 or 7 different teams but have gone for this one.

Smartie
22-08-2023, 12:43 PM
Will Vente get the OK to play?

Might seem crazy but I think we should lineup similar to how we did at home to Luzern by playing to our strengths and getting our best attackers out on the field. Midfield is powderpuff with Levitt out so ALF will have to help out in there, defend in two banks of 4 and break when possible

I'm thinking

------------Marshall-------------
--Miller---Fish---Hanlon---Obita
Boyle---Jeggo---Newell---Youan
---------------ALF---------------
--------------Vente--------------

I'd go with this only put Stevenson in where Newell is and push Newell further up the park in support of Vente, in place of ALF.

(Our midfield options are a bit of a nightmare ahead of such a big game against such a good team and I have a horrible feeling this is where they get found out badly).

May be controversial but I'd be tempted to go with Harbottle in place of Fish as well.

HendoDelivered
22-08-2023, 12:48 PM
Heres a thoughts, Stevenson in the middle over Jeggo…?

churchie16
22-08-2023, 12:51 PM
Tough game to pick a team for and I am still waiting for a midfielder coming in before the cut off point.
Presuming that doesn't happen I will go for the following;
Marshall

Fish
Harbottle
Hanlon

Miller
Jeggo
Newall
Obita

Youan
Vente
Boyle.

Could have picked 6 or 7 different teams but have gone for this one.

Spot on.

Mike Berry
22-08-2023, 12:54 PM
Heres a thoughts, Stevenson in the middle over Jeggo…?Stevenson is a good midfielder, but I think a better option is to use Obita in midfield and play Stevenson at left back. We seem more solid when Obita is further forward, and I think Stevenson is still our best left back (I'm sure I'll get pelters for saying that.

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easty
22-08-2023, 12:57 PM
I'd go with this only put Stevenson in where Newell is and push Newell further up the park in support of Vente, in place of ALF.

(Our midfield options are a bit of a nightmare ahead of such a big game against such a good team and I have a horrible feeling this is where they get found out badly).

May be controversial but I'd be tempted to go with Harbottle in place of Fish as well.

It’d be a waste of time asking Newell to play just behind the striker, he’s just not that player. He’d just drop back into the middle anyway. Asking him to do something that he doesn’t have the ability to do in a game where we’re already up against it, seems pointless.

I’m really not sure how I’d set us up. I’m not convinced having Youan on the left is a good idea, we’ll need someone who can and will help defensively. We could play Youan up top with Vente, maybe?

Villa looked quality down the wings at the weekend, just on pace alone I don’t think Stevenson is the right decision for left back. Has to be Obita. Could maybe have Lewis left mid. He’d offer defensive support but not be isolated.

leith lynx
22-08-2023, 12:59 PM
Would like to see Doidge involved, always handy to have when defending corners and is one player who will give 100%.

flash
22-08-2023, 12:59 PM
Stevenson is a good midfielder, but I think a better option is to use Obita in midfield and play Stevenson at left back. We seem more solid when Obita is further forward, and I think Stevenson is still our best left back (I'm sure I'll get pelters for saying that.

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No offence mate but are you basing your opinion on Lewis in midfield on the 2007 League Cup final?

Smartie
22-08-2023, 01:05 PM
It’d be a waste of time asking Newell to play just behind the striker, he’s just not that player. He’d just drop back into the middle anyway. Asking him to do something that he doesn’t have the ability to do in a game where we’re already up against it, seems pointless.

I’m really not sure how I’d set us up. I’m not convinced having Youan on the left is a good idea, we’ll need someone who can and will help defensively. We could play Youan up top with Vente, maybe?

Villa looked quality down the wings at the weekend, just on pace alone I don’t think Stevenson is the right decision for left back. Has to be Obita. Could maybe have Lewis left mid. He’d offer defensive support but not be isolated.

I don't think I'd have any problem with Newell playing advanced but dropping back. I'd want to avoid having him sitting in with the centre backs, standing still and making ploddy passes. I really like him when he gets the chance to run at players and he's got a great drop of the shoulder and pass on him. This game just strikes me as one where you're going to need midfielders who can tackle, hence wanting Jeggo and Stevenson in there playing the deeper roles. They'd be harder to play through than we can be when we play Newell there, although in reality I don't think much of many of our available midfielders and their defensive abilities in tougher games, against tougher opponents.

I share your concerns re Youan on the left, we might get murdered down that side with him there. He's our trump card though and needs to be accommodated somewhere, definitely our best chance of getting something unusual out of the blue on the night.

Smartie
22-08-2023, 01:07 PM
No offence mate but are you basing your opinion on Lewis in midfield on the 2007 League Cup final?

He's never really let us down in midfield and has had plenty of good games when called upon to play there since then.

His energy and tenacity in the tackle might be well utilised there. The idea of a mobile team doubling up on him down his wing whilst Youan stands up the park thinking about what he's going to put on his next instagram reel gives me the fear.

flash
22-08-2023, 01:13 PM
He's never really let us down in midfield and has had plenty of good games when called upon to play there since then.

His energy and tenacity in the tackle might be well utilised there. The idea of a mobile team doubling up on him down his wing whilst Youan stands up the park thinking about what he's going to put on his next instagram reel gives me the fear.

He has hardly played there despite your one man campaign to have him do so.

Smartie
22-08-2023, 01:18 PM
He has hardly played there despite your one man campaign to have him do so.

Not since he really established himself at left back, when we were in the Championship, but he played there for much of his first decade or so with us.

And I'm far from the most vocal advocate of him playing there, merely accepting that in the absence of us having really ever got that part of the park sorted that he's probably the closest we've got to what we need there in certain games, at certain times.

SHODAN
22-08-2023, 01:19 PM
Marshall

Miller Harbottle Fish Hanlon Obita

Jeggo Newell

Boyle Vente Youan


Need men back, five man defence probably best in the absence of midfield quality.

flash
22-08-2023, 01:21 PM
Not since he really established himself at left back, when we were in the Championship, but he played there for much of his first decade or so with us.

And I'm far from the most vocal advocate of him playing there, merely accepting that in the absence of us having really ever got that part of the park sorted that he's probably the closest we've got to what we need there in certain games, at certain times.

No worries. He would be nowhere near the pitch these days if I was in charge but each to their own.

B.H.F.C
22-08-2023, 01:22 PM
I can’t come up with a midfield combination that gives me any hope so I’m thinking just try and be as strong as we can elsewhere.

Marshall

Miller
Fish
Hanlon
Stevenson

Boyle
???
Newell
Obita

Vente
Youan

Protect the fullbacks and just let Youan go and play with Vente. It seems slightly suicidal to go with two in the middle but we just have such a lack of quality in that position.

All that said I expect Obita to be on the bench and one of Campbell or Jeggo to play in a midfield position 3.

Unseen work
22-08-2023, 01:23 PM
……………….Marshall……………..

Miller…..Fish…..Hanlon……Stevenson..

……………Jeggo….Newell…

Boyle……….Campbell…..Youan…..

…………………Vente…..

Is what I think Johnson will go with.

Hibernian Verse
22-08-2023, 01:24 PM
Marshall

Miller Harbottle Fish Hanlon Obita

Jeggo Newell

Boyle Vente Youan


Need men back, five man defence probably best in the absence of midfield quality.

Stevenson will play, as he was rested mostly on Sunday. I feel like a five back will invite too much pressure on us, and counter wise we would be best with 2 banks of 4 a la Luzern Home.

Smartie
22-08-2023, 01:24 PM
……………….Marshall……………..

Miller…..Fish…..Hanlon……Stevenson..

……………Jeggo….Newell…

Boyle……….Campbell…..Youan…..

…………………Vente…..

Is what I think Johnson will go with.

I reckon he'll go with that too.

easty
22-08-2023, 01:31 PM
……………….Marshall……………..

Miller…..Fish…..Hanlon……Stevenson..

……………Jeggo….Newell…

Boyle……….Campbell…..Youan…..

…………………Vente…..

Is what I think Johnson will go with.

I really hope not. Campbell is a waste of a jersey and we’ll get battered down our left.

WeeRussell
22-08-2023, 01:32 PM
I reckon he'll go with that too.

I think I would too. I can understand your wanting of Newell being further forward but I suspect we’ll need him in the thick of the ‘proper midfield’ tomorrow.

Brightside
22-08-2023, 01:33 PM
541


Marsh

Miller. Fish. Harbotle. Hanlon. Stevenson

Boyle. Jeggo. Newell. Youn

Vente.

Tyler Durden
22-08-2023, 01:36 PM
Tough game to pick a team for and I am still waiting for a midfielder coming in before the cut off point.
Presuming that doesn't happen I will go for the following;
Marshall

Fish
Harbottle
Hanlon

Miller
Jeggo
Newall
Obita

Youan
Vente
Boyle.

Could have picked 6 or 7 different teams but have gone for this one.

I think this team gets our best players in the team and is balanced. Personally I don't want to see Stevenson, Campbell and to a lesser extent Rocky, so this team works for me.

We've yet to see any passing football this season, so playing percentage balls and trying to get Boyle and Youan over the top is surely our main tactic. Which hopefully suits this game anyway.

Hibees1973
22-08-2023, 01:36 PM
Marshall

Miller Harbottle Fish Hanlon Obita

Jeggo Newell

Boyle Vente Youan


Need men back, five man defence probably best in the absence of midfield quality.

This is a good as we can do with what we have.

Only change I would make is JDH for Jeggo. Bit of a toss up between the two but just think JDH is a better player and more able to keep the ball.

flash
22-08-2023, 01:37 PM
This is a good as we can do with what we have.

Only change I would make is JDH for Jeggo. Bit of a toss up between the two but just think JDH is a better player and more able to keep the ball.

Manager hinting JDH could be available in which case I would agree with you.
He also spent time at Villa so would presumably hope to prove a point.

Smartie
22-08-2023, 01:39 PM
541


Marsh

Miller. Fish. Harbotle. Hanlon. Stevenson

Boyle. Jeggo. Newell. Youn

Vente.

I don’t mind this at all.

MrRobot
22-08-2023, 01:42 PM
From all these team selections, it is clear as day we are 2 midfielders short now that levitt is injured.

We badly need a defensive minded midfielder and attacking minded midfielder. also need cover out wide.

team is really difficult to pick as newell aside, there is nobody in central midfield that gives me confidence to provide creativity and push us forward.

Paulie Walnuts
22-08-2023, 01:45 PM
I can’t come up with a midfield combination that gives me any hope so I’m thinking just try and be as strong as we can elsewhere.

Marshall

Miller
Fish
Hanlon
Stevenson

Boyle
???
Newell
Obita

Vente
Youan

Protect the fullbacks and just let Youan go and play with Vente. It seems slightly suicidal to go with two in the middle but we just have such a lack of quality in that position.

All that said I expect Obita to be on the bench and one of Campbell or Jeggo to play in a midfield position 3.

Probably about where I’d go, Jeggo would be my ??? in that midfield.

Campbell cannot start imo. His lack of quality on the ball will ruin us.

Torto7
22-08-2023, 02:16 PM
Marshall
Fish Rocky Stevenson(Both Lewis and Hanlon have been bomb scares this season)
Miller JDH Jeggo Newell Youan
Boyle Vente.

lyonhibs
22-08-2023, 02:22 PM
Marshall

Miller Harbottle Fish Hanlon Obita

Jeggo Newell

Boyle Vente Youan


Need men back, five man defence probably best in the absence of midfield quality.

You'd have us effectively sacrifice the centre of midfield against Aston Villa? It's a bold tactic but would encourage the long hoof so I hope to buggery it's not what we see.

Torto7
22-08-2023, 02:28 PM
Marshall

Miller Harbottle Fish Hanlon Obita

Jeggo Newell

Boyle Vente Youan


Need men back, five man defence probably best in the absence of midfield quality.

Drop Hanlon for Rocky. if Rocky was making the constant errors Paul has then this place would be in uproar yet there's barely any criticism. Double standards imo.

Hibees1973
22-08-2023, 02:28 PM
You'd have us effectively sacrifice the centre of midfield against Aston Villa? It's a bold tactic but would encourage the long hoof so I hope to buggery it's not what we see.

I think to buggery that's exactly what we are going to see.

Know they are on a different level from us, but from watching Villa and us the biggest difference is in midfield. If and when we get the ball, with McGinn and Diaby (who is some machine) the more we try and bypass midfield and use the pace of Boyle, Youan and Vente the better chance we have.

It could end up 5 or 6 but I don't expect Hibs to try and play it about in the middle of the park. Villa will just pick us off and leave our back 3/4 exposed.

Tha Cabbage Kid
22-08-2023, 02:33 PM
..............Marshall Boruc Johnson Doidge
Miller....Rocky....Hanlon....Fish....Harbottle.... Obita

...............................Boyle.............. .............

win 3-0

Brightside
22-08-2023, 02:37 PM
Drop Hanlon for Rocky. if Rocky was making the constant errors Paul has then this place would be in uproar yet there's barely any criticism. Double standards imo.

Fish has made more errors than Hanlon. But id still have Fish before Rocky. Hanlon gets more criticism that probably any player we have. Are you new?

nonshinyfinish
22-08-2023, 02:37 PM
..............Marshall Boruc Johnson Doidge
Miller....Rocky....Hanlon....Fish....Harbottle.... Obita

...............................Boyle.............. .............

win 3-0

Is that Murray Johnson or Lee?

Tha Cabbage Kid
22-08-2023, 02:41 PM
Is that Murray Johnson or Lee?

considering Lee is about 5' 0 i think maybe Muza would be better :wink:

Hibees1973
22-08-2023, 02:43 PM
considering Lee is about 5' 0 i think maybe Muza would be better :wink:

Wouldn't be so sure Johnson has picked some puzzling sides in the past.

NAE NOOKIE
22-08-2023, 02:47 PM
I think to buggery that's exactly what we are going to see.

Know they are on a different level from us, but from watching Villa and us the biggest difference is in midfield. If and when we get the ball, with McGinn and Diaby (who is some machine) the more we try and bypass midfield and use the pace of Boyle, Youan and Vente the better chance we have.

It could end up 5 or 6 but I don't expect Hibs to try and play it about in the middle of the park. Villa will just pick us off and leave our back 3/4 exposed.

Yeh this for me too. We haven't got a hope of competing with them in midfield, so our best strategy is to stop it being where the game is won or lost. Their pace all over the park will be a factor if we leave any gaps, so for me the best option is to choke up our final 3rd as much as we can, in the hope that from time to time we can mount a breakaway using the pace of Youan, Boyle and Vente*. It might not win us the game, but hopefully the history books in years to come won't be able to show an absolute hammering.

* ... Pace being a relative term, Boyle and Youan might be speed merchants in our league, but lets face it, in the EPL you probably don't get a game unless you have a decent amount of it, even in the back 4.

B.H.F.C
22-08-2023, 02:51 PM
You'd have us effectively sacrifice the centre of midfield against Aston Villa? It's a bold tactic but would encourage the long hoof so I hope to buggery it's not what we see.

The problem is that you stick in an additional midfielder who is basically a poor player. We don’t have good quality in there at our level, never mind against them. It’s not as if we’re going to get on the ball and pass through them even with the extra body. That said, it will probably be more about what they do without the ball in there.

Tha Cabbage Kid
22-08-2023, 02:52 PM
Not a big fan of Jeggo but i think we will need to be tight defensively
think Stevenson might struggle but he is our best option at LB
Fish has been off it so i think Rocky deserves a chance. and would be suited to a game like this

...................Marshall
Miller......Rocky.....Halnon....Stevenson

Boyle.....Jeggo......Newell...........Obita

................Vente......Youan..........

easty
22-08-2023, 03:02 PM
Not a big fan of Jeggo but i think we will need to be tight defensively
think Stevenson might struggle but he is our best option at LB
Fish has been off it so i think Rocky deserves a chance. and would be suited to a game like this

...................Marshall
Miller......Rocky.....Halnon....Stevenson

Boyle.....Jeggo......Newell...........Obita

................Vente......Youan..........

I'd love to hear what makes you think Rocky would be suited to a game like this?

lyonhibs
22-08-2023, 03:05 PM
The problem is that you stick in an additional midfielder who is basically a poor player. We don’t have good quality in there at our level, never mind against them. It’s not as if we’re going to get on the ball and pass through them even with the extra body. That said, it will probably be more about what they do without the ball in there.

Yeah, I wasn't advocating another midfielder from a "control the game" perspective.

We can't pray that a 5 man defence will hold firm if they're getting wave after wave of pressure with the midfield being completely over run, which may well happen will 3 or indeed 23 in the middle but will definitely happen with just 2 in there

andrew70
22-08-2023, 03:58 PM
Marshall
Miller Fish Hanlon Stevenson
Boyle JDH Newell Youan
ALF
Vente

Tha Cabbage Kid
22-08-2023, 04:01 PM
I'd love to hear what makes you think Rocky would be suited to a game like this?

you mean apart from the fact he is bigger, stronger and faster then the other two CB's?

JammyDoidger
22-08-2023, 04:50 PM
Marshall

Miller
Fish
Harbottle/Rocky
Hanlon
Obita


Newell
Campbell
JDH/Jeggo


Boyle
Youan

AlbertK86
22-08-2023, 04:51 PM
Marshall
Miller Fish Hanlon Stevenson
Boyle JDH Newell Youan
ALF
Vente

That team for me but Obita in for Stevenson


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Hibby Kay-Yay
22-08-2023, 07:07 PM
I’d go 5-4-1 at Villa park to protect our lead from this game…

Marsh

Miller
Fish
Hanlon
Obita

Newell
Jeggo

Boyle
Doidge
ALF
Youan

2-1 Hibs Newell and Vente. SJM for Villa

:cb

brydekirk
22-08-2023, 07:19 PM
I'm really not sure on this, to give us the best possible chance I wonder if we'll go with a 4-1-4-1.


Marshall
Miller Fish Hanlon Stevenson
Jeggo
Boyle Campbell Newall Youan
Vente/Doidge/ALF

5-4-1?


Marshall
Miller Fish Bushiri Hanlon Obita
Boyle Newall Jeggo Youan
Striker - probably Vente

Like it👍

Scooter
22-08-2023, 07:40 PM
Like it👍

I like the 5-4-1 team

easty
22-08-2023, 07:51 PM
you mean apart from the fact he is bigger, stronger and faster then the other two CB's?

Ah ok, so we’re going on physical attributes only, rather than actually being a better defender? Fair enough.

I reckon I know quite a few folk bigger, stronger and faster than Paul Hanlon…maybe we should ask them to play? In fact, I’m probably bigger, faster and stronger than him…I’ll bring my boots.

wookie70
22-08-2023, 08:02 PM
All about keeping it alive for me. I'd go for

Marshal

Miller Fish Hanlon Stevenson

Boyle Newell JDH/Jeggo Obita

Vente Youan

Youan to be given a fairly free role drifting about. I think one of our big problems is we struggle to defend corners and crosses. Far left will come in from teh left if Youan isn't defending and the closer he is to the oppositions goal the more likely we are to score. We will hoof it quite often and he has shown he can get in the channels and noise defenders up. Villa need to have a shocker and we need most things to go right. Both of those things are possible

Skol
22-08-2023, 08:29 PM
I think it will be the 4-1-4-1 line up

Johnson doesn’t often go five at the back or three if that’s how you see it.

We need three in midfield. I get the bit about visa being streets ahead there and we should bypass it. However if we are a man short and villa dominate possession we need men in there

Marshall

Miller fish hanlon Stevenson

Jeggo

Boyle newell Campbell or jDH youan

Vente.

Harsh on obita but I don’t see a way to fit him in.

Hiber-nation
22-08-2023, 08:31 PM
Why do I keep thinking Rocky's going to start?

flash
22-08-2023, 08:33 PM
I think it will be the 4-1-4-1 line up

Johnson doesn’t often go five at the back or three if that’s how you see it.

We need three in midfield. I get the bit about visa being streets ahead there and we should bypass it. However if we are a man short and villa dominate possession we need men in there

Marshall

Miller fish hanlon Stevenson

Jeggo

Boyle newell Campbell or jDH youan

Vente.

Harsh on obita but I don’t see a way to fit him in.

He fits in ahead of Stevenson.

Skol
22-08-2023, 08:53 PM
He fits in ahead of Stevenson.

Stevenson is the better defensively and so would be my choice in this game.

B.H.F.C
22-08-2023, 09:44 PM
Quote from Johnson, not sure what to make of it. If you’re talking about being physical, would need to be a third centre half I’d think.

“I’ve picked an athletic team, in terms of what we’ve got, and a physical team, and that’s one of the most important factors in this. We’ve got to be able to cope with that added athleticism we wouldn’t normally go against week-in, week-out”

leithsansiro
22-08-2023, 10:14 PM
Quote from Johnson, not sure what to make of it. If you’re talking about being physical, would need to be a third centre half I’d think.

“I’ve picked an athletic team, in terms of what we’ve got, and a physical team, and that’s one of the most important factors in this. We’ve got to be able to cope with that added athleticism we wouldn’t normally go against week-in, week-out”

I take that to mean that Campbell is in the starting lineup. I suspect he wants to use his athleticism and work rate. Would suggest that also means that Ellie Yooooohan starts too

Think he might go;

Marshall

Miller Fish Hanlon Stevenson

Campbell Jeggo Newell

Boyle ALF Youan

Not what I’d go for, but I think LJ will fancy his chances here. Basically, it’s a free hit, right? Nobody expects us to do anything, so we may as well do it going forward. He’s got previous for being gung-ho against the OF in Glasgow and I suspect he’ll do similar (because he’ll be outsmarting those who think he’ll be defensive…)

leithsansiro
22-08-2023, 10:16 PM
I wonder too actually if players will see this as a chance to put themselves in the shop window. Big opportunity, high profile game. Say that Campbell hypothetically puts in a high- tempo shift and catches the eye of some Championship club.

Smartie
22-08-2023, 10:29 PM
Quote from Johnson, not sure what to make of it. If you’re talking about being physical, would need to be a third centre half I’d think.

“I’ve picked an athletic team, in terms of what we’ve got, and a physical team, and that’s one of the most important factors in this. We’ve got to be able to cope with that added athleticism we wouldn’t normally go against week-in, week-out”

That might suggest Rocky being involved to me?

I think he's right tbf re the physical side.

500miles
22-08-2023, 10:31 PM
I wonder too actually if players will see this as a chance to put themselves in the shop window. Big opportunity, high profile game. Say that Campbell hypothetically puts in a high- tempo shift and catches the eye of some Championship club.

I don't think Campbell will play. Running with a shoulder injury can be really painful, and he will be asked to chase everything down. If JDH is back, he might be played quite high up the pitch and aggressive.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Fish, Hanlon and Rocky in defence, Miller v McGinn could be a cracker. Obita could end up at left wing back with Stevenson playing next to Newell booting everything that moves. Youan and Boyle might be put up top to force them deep as possible. That's the most athletic team I can think of.

Hibby70
22-08-2023, 10:34 PM
Wonder if he keeps Boyle on the bench with Obita and Youan out wide.

h1bs4life
23-08-2023, 05:53 AM
My team would be

Marshall
Fish. Harbottle Rocky
Boyle Miller (JDH/ Jeggo/ Campbell ) Newell Obita
Vente Youan

Miller and Obita can drop back to make a back 5 when required . Boyle can drop back also. We do lack midfielders.
Like Youan but he needs a free role no point asking him to play wide and cover defensive duties as he is unable to do it .

Brightside
23-08-2023, 06:30 AM
Rocky cannot play on the left.

Coach Jon
23-08-2023, 06:34 AM
My team would be

Marshall
Fish. Harbottle Rocky
Boyle Miller (JDH/ Jeggo/ Campbell ) Newell Obita
Vente Youan

Miller and Obita can drop back to make a back 5 when required . Boyle can drop back also. We do lack midfielders.
Like Youan but he needs a free role no point asking him to play wide and cover defensive duties as he is unable to do it .

:agree: Thats probably our strongest team for a game like this.

Hibernian Verse
23-08-2023, 06:41 AM
My team would be

Marshall
Fish. Harbottle Rocky
Boyle Miller (JDH/ Jeggo/ Campbell ) Newell Obita
Vente Youan

Miller and Obita can drop back to make a back 5 when required . Boyle can drop back also. We do lack midfielders.
Like Youan but he needs a free role no point asking him to play wide and cover defensive duties as he is unable to do it .

Why are we dropping the club captain and putting a right footer in at left centre half?

And Miller at Centre Mid.

You're on the wind up for sure.

Aldo
23-08-2023, 07:00 AM
Why are we dropping the club captain and putting a right footer in at left centre half?

And Miller at Centre Mid.

You're on the wind up for sure.


Folk are either at it or trolling imho.

Unless he’s injured there is no way PH is being dropped.

I would be tempted to start with Fish Harbottle and Hanlon at the back

Marshall

Fish Harbottle Hanlon

Miller Jeggo (or Stevenson) Newell Obita

Boyle Vente (or CD) Youann

3-4-3 in attack but 5-4-1 in defence

Going to be a tough decision on how to set up

Brightside
23-08-2023, 07:30 AM
:agree: Thats probably our strongest team for a game like this.

Hanlon is still our best CB. Ask LJ.

Brightside
23-08-2023, 07:35 AM
Folk are either at it or trolling imho.

Unless he’s injured there is no way PH is being dropped.

I would be tempted to start with Fish Harbottle and Hanlon at the back

Marshall

Fish Harbottle Hanlon

Miller Jeggo (or Stevenson) Newell Obita

Boyle Vente (or CD) Youann

3-4-3 in attack but 5-4-1 in defence

Going to be a tough decision on how to set up

I think JDH will play if he's passed his fitness test. I know some don't like him but LJ mentioned needing energy etc. For me that means JDH, Campbell, Newell. Thats the most energetic midfield we have left and the most dynamic.

One thing we must not do tonight is get on players backs. They are outclassed by miles in every area. Expect them to get turned inside out. Expect them to lose 50/50s. Expect them to get done for pace. But with support behind them we can maybe raise the energy by 20% which might just give us the smallest of chances.

Aldo
23-08-2023, 07:43 AM
I think JDH will play if he's passed his fitness test. I know some don't like him but LJ mentioned needing energy etc. For me that means JDH, Campbell, Newell. Thats the most energetic midfield we have left and the most dynamic.

You are probably not far off the mark there.

eastmainsmsh
23-08-2023, 08:13 AM
Marshall

Harbottle Fish Hanlon
Rocky
Miller Campbell Newell Stevenson

Boyle Vente

flash
23-08-2023, 08:34 AM
Marshall

Harbottle Fish Hanlon
Rocky
Miller Campbell Newell Stevenson

Boyle Vente

Ah not so much.

Since452
23-08-2023, 08:52 AM
Wonder if he keeps Boyle on the bench with Obita and Youan out wide.

Absolutely no chance.

Alfred E Newman
23-08-2023, 09:06 AM
I think JDH will play if he's passed his fitness test. I know some don't like him but LJ mentioned needing energy etc. For me that means JDH, Campbell, Newell. Thats the most energetic midfield we have left and the most dynamic.

One thing we must not do tonight is get on players backs. They are outclassed by miles in every area. Expect them to get turned inside out. Expect them to lose 50/50s. Expect them to get done for pace. But with support behind them we can maybe raise the energy by 20% which might just give us the smallest of chances.

A good few on here have deemed that midfield trio one of the worst in the clubs history.

Heisenberg
23-08-2023, 09:11 AM
A good few on here have deemed that midfield trio one of the worst in the clubs history.

To be fair some of the best games I’ve seen Campbell and JDH have were work hard and scrap for everything performances against the Glasgow teams. It’s probably what we’re going to need tonight because we certainly won’t be seeing much of the ball.

Since452
23-08-2023, 09:15 AM
I think poor Lewis could be torn a new one. He's not been at the races this season. I'd probably not play him against Villa. I'd put Rocky in there for his physicality and take out Hanlon or Fish.

Hibby Kay-Yay
23-08-2023, 09:19 AM
Based on LJ’s comments I’d have the team like this

Marshall

Miller
Fish
Hanlon
Obita

Boyle
Newell
JDH
Campbell
Youan

Vente

Has Ben Kensell not leaked the team news yet anyway?

Donegal Hibby
23-08-2023, 09:21 AM
Marshall.

Miller .
Fish .
Rocky.
Hanlon.
Stevenson.

Boyle .
Jeggo.
Newell .
Youan.

Vente.

lyonhibs
23-08-2023, 09:29 AM
Based on LJ’s comments I’d have the team like this

Marshall

Miller
Fish
Hanlon
Obita

Boyle
Newell
JDH
Campbell
Youan

Vente

Has Ben Kensell not leaked the team news yet anyway?

He's doing it in Robbie's around about 15h30 so I heard

Tyler Durden
23-08-2023, 09:51 AM
Sounds like Villa going pretty much full team. Could get messy

h1bs4life
23-08-2023, 10:09 AM
Folk are either at it or trolling imho.

Unless he’s injured there is no way PH is being dropped.

I would be tempted to start with Fish Harbottle and Hanlon at the back

Marshall

Fish Harbottle Hanlon

Miller Jeggo (or Stevenson) Newell Obita

Boyle Vente (or CD) Youann

3-4-3 in attack but 5-4-1 in defence

Going to be a tough decision on how to set up


Nobody is trolling , some people can look at what is available and pick a team without bringing sentiment into it.
Did you watch last euro game away to Luzern , Hanlon found wanting at the 2nd goal , Raith Rovers last Sunday one of there biggest dangers in the 1st half was a short pass back from Hanlon.
Same with Stevenson , Raith Rovers game Obita was strolling through the game last Sunday , sub made Obita moved forward goal lost 2 minutes later with Stevenson at fault.

Aston Villa will be a step up on anything we have played against for a few seasons , suspect they will be big , strong and fast . Team I suggested was to combat what they have .
Doesn't matter what we suggest , Lee Johnson is the man who picks the team and ultimately he will be judged on the team he picks although doesn't matter what team he picks we are right up against it.

Aldo
23-08-2023, 10:14 AM
Nobody is trolling , some people can look at what is available and pick a team without bringing sentiment into it.
Did you watch last euro game away to Luzern , Hanlon found wanting at the 2nd goal , Raith Rovers last Sunday one of there biggest dangers in the 1st half was a short pass back from Hanlon.
Same with Stevenson , Raith Rovers game Obita was strolling through the game last Sunday , sub made Obita moved forward goal lost 2 minutes later with Stevenson at fault.

Aston Villa will be a step up on anything we have played against for a few seasons , suspect they will be big , strong and fast . Team I suggested was to combat what they have .
Doesn't matter what we suggest , Lee Johnson is the man who picks the team and ultimately he will be judged on the team he picks although doesn't matter what team he picks we are right up against it.

Hanlon is still our best CH and the only LCH we have and club Capt. He will start this evening barring injury. You’d be happy to play Rocky in his place?

No sentiment you play your best team and best players available.

Hibees1973
23-08-2023, 10:15 AM
He's doing it in Robbie's around about 15h30 so I heard

This time though it's doesn't really matter a toss if he does.

danhibees1875
23-08-2023, 10:26 AM
We have a lot more players vying for a starting spot than I had given us credit for...


Marshall
Rocky Fish Hanlon
Boyle ...... Jeggo ..... Obita
Campbell Newall
Vente Youan

However, strong arguments to be made to have Harbottle, Stevenson, Miller, ALF, and Doidge somewhere in there. :confused:

Lago
23-08-2023, 10:28 AM
I just hope Hibs aren't embarrassed tonight, no matter how you look at it Hibs v Villa is a mismatch, the thought of Olly Watkins against Paul Hanlon well I'll leave it to your imagination.

h1bs4life
23-08-2023, 10:29 AM
Hanlon is still our best CH and the only LCH we have and club Capt. He will start this evening barring injury. You’d be happy to play Rocky in his place?

No sentiment you play your best team and best players available.


Yes happy for Rocky to play as part of a back 3 of Fish. Harbottle and Rocky not bothered who plays left centre back as everyone seems to say we need.

Marshall
Fish. Harbottle Rocky
Miller Boyle (JDH/ Jeggo/ Campbell ) Newell Obita
Vente Youan

Miller and Obita can drop back to make a back 5 when required . Boyle can drop back also.

What would your team be ?

Hibees1973
23-08-2023, 10:29 AM
To be fair some of the best games I’ve seen Campbell and JDH have were work hard and scrap for everything performances against the Glasgow teams. It’s probably what we’re going to need tonight because we certainly won’t be seeing much of the ball.

Agree with that. There is not any doubt that our main strength is pace up front with our 3 forwards and on the counter attack.

My fear is that Villa are on a different level from the uglies and will totally overrun us in the middle of the park.

Aldo
23-08-2023, 10:39 AM
Yes happy for Rocky to play as part of a back 3 of Fish. Harbottle and Rocky not bothered who plays left centre back as everyone seems to say we need.

Marshall
Fish. Harbottle Rocky
Miller Boyle (JDH/ Jeggo/ Campbell ) Newell Obita
Vente Youan

Miller and Obita can drop back to make a back 5 when required . Boyle can drop back also.

What would your team be , its a discussion , don't think the manager will pick a team based on what is on Hibs net .

I’ll disagree. I like Rocky but he’s nowhere near PH when it comes to quality.

Yes he’s in his last season or so but he won’t replace PH unless, as I’ve said he’s injured.

I THINK Certain starters will be

Marshall

Miller, Fish, Hanlon Obita, Boyle, Youan, Newell
Vente. With either JDH, Jeggo, Campbell or maybe Lewis vying for MF berths and maybe Doidge up too.

Do you not think I know that it’s a discussion and I think I know that LJ won’t pick his team from .net. No need for your last bit IMHO.

Hibby Kay-Yay
23-08-2023, 10:45 AM
Hibs market value - €12.8m
Villas market value- €615.5m

No pressure 😏

h1bs4life
23-08-2023, 11:05 AM
I’ll disagree. I like Rocky but he’s nowhere near PH when it comes to quality.

Yes he’s in his last season or so but he won’t replace PH unless, as I’ve said he’s injured.

I THINK Certain starters will be

Marshall

Miller, Fish, Hanlon Obita, Boyle, Youan, Newell
Vente. With either JDH, Jeggo, Campbell or maybe Lewis vying for MF berths and maybe Doidge up too.

Do you not think I know that it’s a discussion and I think I know that LJ won’t pick his team from .net. No need for your last bit IMHO.


Nothing meant by the last line , have removed last bit.
You are probably right with names you mention as starters although as I said I wouldn't have Hanlon in that group.

Aldo
23-08-2023, 11:08 AM
Nothing meant by the last line , have removed last bit.
You are probably right with names you mention as starters although as I said I wouldn't have Hanlon in that group.

Ok no worries. [emoji1303]

You said it earlier it’s a discussion and we all have opinions etc about what we think is the best line up.

We will have to disagree about PH though.

One Day Soon
23-08-2023, 11:10 AM
Hibs market value - €12.8m
Villas market value- €615.5m

No pressure 😏


**** that, they might be Aston Villa but we are Hibernian FC.

Donegal Hibby
23-08-2023, 11:23 AM
Hanlon is still our best CH and the only LCH we have and club Capt. He will start this evening barring injury. You’d be happy to play Rocky in his place?

No sentiment you play your best team and best players available.

I'd agree with starting Hanlon ahead of Rocky though don't get the criticism that's aimed at Rocky at times , think Rocky's a good player tbh , was good for us when he came on against Luzern . One player that's been costing us goals the last while is Fish who's been poor imo .

Smartie
23-08-2023, 11:30 AM
I'd agree with starting Hanlon ahead of Rocky though don't get the criticism that's aimed at Rocky at times , think Rocky's a good player tbh , was good for us when he came on against Luzern . One player that's been costing us goals the last while is Fish who's been poor imo .

I find the criticism of Rocky OTT as well.

No doubt he has some rough edges but by and large he's been a good player for us.

I feel a bit sorry for him that he was part of that abject performance in Andorra as that will be held against him more than other players (other players who were more culpable over the piece).

Brightside
23-08-2023, 11:37 AM
Yes happy for Rocky to play as part of a back 3 of Fish. Harbottle and Rocky not bothered who plays left centre back as everyone seems to say we need.

Marshall
Fish. Harbottle Rocky
Miller Boyle (JDH/ Jeggo/ Campbell ) Newell Obita
Vente Youan

Miller and Obita can drop back to make a back 5 when required . Boyle can drop back also.

What would your team be ?

3 right footers in a back 3 is just mental.

Donegal Hibby
23-08-2023, 12:02 PM
I find the criticism of Rocky OTT as well.

No doubt he has some rough edges but by and large he's been a good player for us.

I feel a bit sorry for him that he was part of that abject performance in Andorra as that will be held against him more than other players (other players who were more culpable over the piece).

I agree that he has some rough edges and your right he as by and large been a good player for us . He will give you 100% which I like about him too . Always find it strange that fans can be more forgiving of one player making mistakes compared to another . If Rocky had been making the same mistakes as Fish as been lately he'd probably be getting belters tbh .

Since452
23-08-2023, 12:05 PM
Hanlon is still our best CH and the only LCH we have and club Capt. He will start this evening barring injury. You’d be happy to play Rocky in his place?

No sentiment you play your best team and best players available.

Hanlon has always struggled with big strikers. He struggles against Nouble etc. Watkins really concerns me. Hanlon will start because he's the captain but the big lad up front must be rubbing his hands.

Tambo
23-08-2023, 12:05 PM
I'm really not sure on this, to give us the best possible chance I wonder if we'll go with a 4-1-4-1.


Marshall
Miller Fish Hanlon Stevenson
Jeggo
Boyle Campbell Newall Youan
Vente/Doidge/ALF

5-4-1?


Marshall
Miller Fish Bushiri Hanlon Obita
Boyle Newall Jeggo Youan
Striker - probably Vente

Wouldn't be against the 5-4-1 team.

Aldo
23-08-2023, 12:11 PM
Hanlon has always struggled with big strikers. He struggles against Nouble etc. Watkins really concerns me. Hanlon will start because he's the captain but the big lad up front must be rubbing his hands.

Watkins, Diaby, McGinn, Luiz, Cash, Digne and many more concern me however we just need to try.

They paid £52 million for Diaby alone.

Do you not think Fish, Rocky or any of our defenders will struggle? Every single player will have to be on top of their game or we will be punished!

Think we just need to enjoy the moment (enjoy might not be the word but you get what I mean I hope) and then take it from there

Brightside
23-08-2023, 12:30 PM
Hanlon has always struggled with big strikers. He struggles against Nouble etc. Watkins really concerns me. Hanlon will start because he's the captain but the big lad up front must be rubbing his hands.

Im sure every Villa player in every position will be rubbing their hands. Make no mistake we will look like Sunday league compared to this lot tonight. We just need to hope for a bit of magic/luck! What we shouldn't have is anyone on here criticising any player after this game. This isn't Raith Rovers.

eastmainsmsh
23-08-2023, 12:35 PM
This is the kind of game where Alex Gogic would be ideal

PH91
23-08-2023, 12:36 PM
If villa play like the first 2 league games then it will be a lopsided 4231 with mcginn coming in from the left to make 2 no 10s. I'd play something between 4411 and 3511 to try and deal with it.

Boyle in behind the striker to counter attack their left from central when (if?) we turnover possession.

One of our attackers has to miss out imo and id keep youan on the bench as he just isnt very good at defending. To come on later in the game.

Marshall
Miller Fish Hanlon Stevenson
Campbell Newell JDH Obita
Boyle
Vente

flash
23-08-2023, 12:46 PM
Im sure every Villa player in every position will be rubbing their hands. Make no mistake we will look like Sunday league compared to this lot tonight. We just need to hope for a bit of magic/luck! What we shouldn't have is anyone on here criticising any player after this game. This isn't Raith Rovers.

Never mind the fact that Watkins isn't a particularly big striker anyway.

He's here!
23-08-2023, 01:10 PM
Im sure every Villa player in every position will be rubbing their hands. Make no mistake we will look like Sunday league compared to this lot tonight. We just need to hope for a bit of magic/luck! What we shouldn't have is anyone on here criticising any player after this game. This isn't Raith Rovers.

Villa are probably a decent bet to win the entire tournament, let alone beat Hibs.

flash
23-08-2023, 01:32 PM
Villa are probably a decent bet to win the entire tournament, let alone beat Hibs.

Particularly seeing as Unai Emery seems to win it every year regardless of who he is managing.

Tha Cabbage Kid
23-08-2023, 02:05 PM
Ah ok, so we’re going on physical attributes only, rather than actually being a better defender? Fair enough.

I reckon I know quite a few folk bigger, stronger and faster than Paul Hanlon…maybe we should ask them to play? In fact, I’m probably bigger, faster and stronger than him…I’ll bring my boots.

i think physicallity will be a big factor against the Villa strikers. I wouldnt write off big Rocky. hes not as bad as you make him out to be.

Iain G
23-08-2023, 02:16 PM
Would be going for a fluid 523/343 kinda thing, keep our forwards high up the pitch and quick out with the ball from the back.

Marshall

Miller Rocky Fish Hanlon Obita

JDH/Campbell Newell

Boyle Vente Youan

BoomtownHibees
23-08-2023, 03:21 PM
Would be going for a fluid 523/343 kinda thing, keep our forwards high up the pitch and quick out with the ball from the back.

Marshall

Miller Rocky Fish Hanlon Obita

JDH/Campbell Newell

Boyle Vente Youan

Ben told me this is the team (he didn’t) :

Marshall
Miller fish hanlon Stevenson
Boyle newell Campbell obita
Vente Youan

where'stheslope
23-08-2023, 03:27 PM
i think physicallity will be a big factor against the Villa strikers. I wouldnt write off big Rocky. hes not as bad as you make him out to be.
The physicality of all the EPL players is always a concern, John McGinn not tall, but has a bum the size of a barn door and he knows how to use it as an advantage.
Our players will bounce of most of their players in a challenge, and their pace is amazing all through their team, we've got Boyle?
Still would love a sneaky wee draw, at least at Easter Road!!!

Tha Cabbage Kid
23-08-2023, 03:33 PM
27152 27153

campbell getting a game. looks like maybe boyle and vente upfront?

Aldo
23-08-2023, 03:34 PM
Wonder if Lewis is playing LCH with Obita LWB??

HibsGW
23-08-2023, 03:35 PM
Villa team: https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1694371430610223285?s=46&t=CKBKzLScC1EneE5sVvSfAQ

Since452
23-08-2023, 03:35 PM
Time for heros mk2

lyonhibs
23-08-2023, 03:37 PM
27152

campbell getting a game. looks like maybe boyle and vente upfront?

I have it as a 4-3-3/4-5-1 with LS16 in the middle but I'm presumably wrong

lyonhibs
23-08-2023, 03:38 PM
Villa team: https://x.com/avfcofficial/status/1694371430610223285?s=46&t=CKBKzLScC1EneE5sVvSfAQ

Eeeesh. Any idea they're taking it easy can be put to bed then.

Coach Jon
23-08-2023, 03:39 PM
3 right footers in a back 3 is just mental.

Shouldnt matter, all defenders have to deal with players who will try to past you on either side, any pro worth his salt should be comfortable with this.

lyonhibs
23-08-2023, 03:42 PM
Shouldnt matter, all defenders have to deal with players who will try to past you on either side, any pro worth his salt should be comfortable with this.

I think he's referring to passing it out from the back.