He won’t get sacked

[churchie16]

Yes he needs to go but they won’t sack him specially after 2 games of the season, reckon everyone will have to put up with this rubbish for at least another 7-8 weeks before the pressure really does go on the board, has to go but won’t, buckle in.

[lyonhibs]

My birthday is in mid February. As things stand, I'm fairly confident there'll be a new man in charge a while before then

[JeMeSouviens]

Yep, may as well chill. Still think he’ll be gone by xmas.

[Scorrie]

But with tougher League fixtures coming up, we can’t afford to remain at or near the foot of the table. The Hibs Board may have to make a decision pretty quickly

[JamesHFC]

But with tougher League fixtures coming up, we can’t afford to remain at or near the foot of the table. The Hibs Board may have to make a decision pretty quickly

Livi, St Johnstone & Dundee at home before the end of September. His future will depend on those games as well as the cup game.

[0762]

It’s a case of when and not if.

[jeffers]

I previously assumed he’d be here a while longer, but a bad result on Thursday and I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets the sack.

[Smartie]

I previously assumed he’d be here a while longer, but a bad result on Thursday and I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets the sack.

Depends on the nature of the result and performance. If we pluck out “a Malmo” then he might be in trouble.

A glorious defeat would antagonise the fans but probably not cause him too much trouble within the club.

[HibbyAndy]

Depends on the nature of the result and performance. If we pluck out “a Malmo” then he might be in trouble.

A glorious defeat would antagonise the fans but probably not cause him too much trouble within the club.

Losing to St.mirren and Motherwell in the first 2 games you better believe we are in trouble

[A Hi-Bee]

Gone by Xmas

[Hiber-nation]

Out of Europe and defeat by Raith would see the peg very shoogly. We'll probably qualify and get knocked out by Raith.

[LaMotta]

A lot of pressure on the club to get through the Lucerne tie and set up the money spinner with Villa.

If we do get through on Thurs then I think performances and results will start to improve. If they don't then the trigger will be pulled eventually, regardless of the Lucerne result.

[Lee Marvin]

Out of Europe and defeat by Raith would see the peg very shoogly. We'll probably qualify and get knocked out by Raith.

There won't be one Hibs fan left who wouldn't want him gone if we go out of both cups this week. It would be utterly toxic

[NAE NOOKIE]

There won't be one Hibs fan left who wouldn't want him gone if we go out of both cups this week. It would be utterly toxic

Losing the 2nd leg on Thursday badly enough to get eliminated isn't outwith the bounds of possibility and that was the thinking even before today's **** show. Luzern showed enough at ER to make it obvious the 2nd leg will be no cakewalk, I think we will have to score over there to go through. Lose the tie 3 - 0 and any cash in the bank LJ had from the first leg will be well and truly spent.

If we were to follow that up with a defeat at home to Raith Rovers no excuse will be acceptable.

It would mean that in 4 goes at cup competitions he will have gone out of 3 at the first time of asking and the remaining one after needing to overturn the result from an absolutely shocking first leg performance to get to the next round and then failing to capitalise on a two goal advantage taken into the away leg from what was a terrific effort at home.

I sincerely hope none of this happens, but given some of our performances already this season it isn't outwith the bounds of possibility ... If that scenario was to pan out and the board didn't pull the trigger you would be left scratching your head as to what this club now thinks is an unacceptable performance by its manager.

[Nutmegged]

Livi, St Johnstone & Dundee at home before the end of September. His future will depend on those games as well as the cup game.

Great opportunity for a new manager to hit the ground running.

[hibees 7062]

Great opportunity for a new manager to hit the ground running.

Who do we bring in though ?

[Nutmegged]

Who do we bring in though ?

I'd personally like Malky McKay but I doubt we'd risk the negative backlash, I'd also be happy with Lennon.

[Hermit Crab]

Yes he needs to go but they won’t sack him specially after 2 games of the season, reckon everyone will have to put up with this rubbish for at least another 7-8 weeks before the pressure really does go on the board, has to go but won’t, buckle in.


Nah, I'm sick of buckling in. He needs to go now. That team is a disgrace, so are his 'tactics'. We don't fork out silly money every week to watch that crap, fans shortchanged again. Thursday was clearly a one off. Blue moon stuff. Normal service resumed today.

The board better act fast before fans start to stay away.

[Hermit Crab]

I'd personally like Malky McKay but I doubt we'd risk the negative backlash, I'd also be happy with Lennon.


Owen Coyle for me.

[JamesHFC]

Owen Coyle for me.

He's back in India now.

[Nutmegged]

Owen Coyle for me.

Coyle would've been a great Hibs manager at multiple different times in the last decade.

[Hermit Crab]

He's back in India now.


Thats no good then.

[Hermit Crab]

There won't be one Hibs fan left who wouldn't want him gone if we go out of both cups this week. It would be utterly toxic



He'll be gone after our up and coming hosing from Luzern on Thursday. He doesn't survive blowing a 2 goal lead. Tie is in his and the players hands. Lose it and he's out for me. He really should be gone after today though.

[JamesHFC]

The board will be well aware of the fans anger, I'm sure they are probably as frustrated as we are but they won't dive into a decision after 2 league games in the middle of being on the verge of qualifying through 2 European rounds setting up a play off game which they will give him the benefit of the doubt if we lose as its against a PL team.

Honestly the only way I see him being sacked anytime soon is if we lose both our domestic games v Raith & Livi the rest of this month.

[Waxy]

We seem to want every manager sacked after any loss these last few years.

[Greenio]

He wont get sacked until it's no longer in the best interest of the club for him to be manager.

I get the reactions are a response to losing games which no-one likes but think about the context.

Do we want to build a sustainable team and culture? Yes, undeniably
Has he shown signs if improvements in his first season in charge? Yes, undeniably
Has the period of poor form been continuous/prolonged? No, undeniably
Are we in a rebuilding phase? Yes, undeniably

Having a strategy as a club is essential, and strategy is as much about what you dont do as what you do.

People go for what seems easiest - sack him, get someone else - its short term thinking.

I'm sick to death of undoing work and starting again, it's wasteful, expensive and rarely ever achieves what you think it will.

We get to October, if his win ratio is not hitting around 40/50%, if we're consistently putting in poor performances, if we're outside the 6 - then yeah, maybe the benefits of getting a new manager in, outweighs the risk of keeping the current one.

Until then, no. We don't.

[WestCoastHibby]

Owen Coyle for me.

One of the most over-rated managers of the last 20 years

[flash]

He will get sacked but not quickly enough for most people's liking.

Incidentally one look at some of the suggestions to replace him show that picking a new manager isn't as easy as some would have you think.

[mcohibs]

He wont get sacked until it's no longer in the best interest of the club for him to be manager.

I get the reactions are a response to losing games which no-one likes but think about the context.

Do we want to build a sustainable team and culture? Yes, undeniably
Has he shown signs if improvements in his first season in charge? Yes, undeniably
Has the period of poor form been continuous/prolonged? No, undeniably
Are we in a rebuilding phase? Yes, undeniably

Having a strategy as a club is essential, and strategy is as much about what you dont do as what you do.

People go for what seems easiest - sack him, get someone else - its short term thinking.

I'm sick to death of undoing work and starting again, it's wasteful, expensive and rarely ever achieves what you think it will.

We get to October, if his win ratio is not hitting around 40/50%, if we're consistently putting in poor performances, if we're outside the 6 - then yeah, maybe the benefits of getting a new manager in, outweighs the risk of keeping the current one.

Until then, no. We don't.

Valid points but it comes down to one thing for me. We can’t afford to not make Europe this season.

If it starts to look likely that we’ll miss out on being contenders for European football then the board will pull the plug, I’ve not doubt about that.

[Jones28]

We seem to want every manager sacked after any loss these last few years.

This isn’t true. It’s been building for a long long time. I was never really convinced by him, but wanted to give him the chance after last season, but I remain unconvinced and leaning towards get rid and bring someone new in.

[Hibrandenburg]

We seem to want every manager sacked after any loss these last few years.

Decades.

[SHODAN]

Said on the other thread, but the only condition I can see for him being sacked in the immediate future are if we're still winless after the Aberdeen game and in the bottom two. Cup exits might speed that up.

[Heisenberg]

Said on the other thread, but the only condition I can see for him being sacked in the immediate future are if we're still winless after the Aberdeen game and in the bottom two. Cup exits might speed that up.

Yeah I don’t see him going anywhere that quickly unless we get dumped out of the cup by Raith. Even then he’ll have his excuses and his best pal Ben will continue to have his back.

If we get through to face Villa that’s more Thursday-Sunday games which he seems to admit we can’t cope with so more losses would be on the way.

[Squealing pig]

See how Europe goes and first round of games Jeezy peeps

[Paulie Walnuts]

See how Europe goes and first round of games Jeezy peeps

After the first round of games we could essentially be out of the running for third place and the season is already as good as over.

I’ll pass on that.

[Joe6-2]

After the first round of games we could essentially be out of the running for third place and the season is already as good as over.

I’ll pass on that.

This

[Nutmegged]

See how Europe goes and first round of games Jeezy peeps

Unfortunately we've no other option, he won't get sacked despite how absolutely rotten he is. The board might panic at the turn of the year when it looks like we've blown Europe and our top six status will be in doubt but in no what shape or form will they even contemplate giving us a proper chance to achieve anything by sacking him ASAP.

The Luzern tie is irrelevant, good wee boost for us if we win it but there's absolutely no chance we get past Villa, maybe in a one off tie at home you might sneak jammy result, but from two legs no chance, so the most important games are the League and Cup games and so far he's just shown what he showed us most of last season, that he simply isn't good enough.

[Wilson]

After the first round of games we could essentially be out of the running for third place and the season is already as good as over.

I’ll pass on that.

Our only chance of third is to hope Johnson and the team ride out the storm. Once Villa is done the league is our focus. We're asking for an improvement on 5th which Johnson got us to fair and square. I'd back this side to better that.

We're not going to helicopter in a head coach that'll romp to third with Johnson's team. If that is the hope then dream on. It'll be another couple of seasons of transition. Of excusing the new man because of the old man's team.

I'll pass on that!

[JamesHFC]

What's the earliest we have sacked a manager into a new season? Hughes in early October from the top of my head.

[JimBHibees]

After the first round of games we could essentially be out of the running for third place and the season is already as good as over.

I’ll pass on that.

However that is a reasonable period