Lee listen or else

[at last 61]

Hopefully if enough people speak out about our frailties it might sink in down Easter road way, a midfield of the same 3 players from last season didn't work then so obviously it's not going to work now, how many times have we been saying Stevenson/Hanlon are not 1st pick

[Jones28]

Hopefully if enough people speak out about our frailties it might sink in down Easter road way, a midfield of the same 3 players from last season didn't work then so obviously it's not going to work now, how many times have we been saying Stevenson/Hanlon are not 1st pick

Speak for yourself.

[H18 SFR]

Hopefully if enough people speak out about our frailties it might sink in down Easter road way, a midfield of the same 3 players from last season didn't work then so obviously it's not going to work now, how many times have we been saying Stevenson/Hanlon are not 1st pick

Jesus.

[Since452]

Hopefully if enough people speak out about our frailties it might sink in down Easter road way, a midfield of the same 3 players from last season didn't work then so obviously it's not going to work now, how many times have we been saying Stevenson/Hanlon are not 1st pick

Don't think anything we say on the team selection will have any baring on what the manager does. I do agree though. Hanlon and Stevenson need replaced and have done for a long time. They wouldn't get anywhere near Aberdeen or Hearts starting 11.

[lyonhibs]

Hopefully if enough people speak out about our frailties it might sink in down Easter road way, a midfield of the same 3 players from last season didn't work then so obviously it's not going to work now, how many times have we been saying Stevenson/Hanlon are not 1st pick

Lee here: Bolt.

But seriously, if those 2 aren't 1st pick, who from the squad we currently have are?

Agreed about the midfield though, that triumvirate should never start together and if it needs another midfielder to add depth being brought in to facilitate that then so be it.

Games are won and lost in the centre of the park and we're shooting ourselves in the foot starting those 3 together. Once all fully fit etc. it should be Jeggo, Newell and Levitt and I'd be intrigued to see the case against that argument tbh

[Hibernian Verse]

We definitely needed another thread about it

[Bushwoof]

Hanlon's interceptions, tackles and blocks saved us from a proper doing yesterday. LJ will have seen that for himself. I'm not sure he needs to listen to a random.

[BS44]

Hopefully if enough people speak out about our frailties it might sink in down Easter road way, a midfield of the same 3 players from last season didn't work then so obviously it's not going to work now, how many times have we been saying Stevenson/Hanlon are not 1st pick

Lee, please under no circumstances listen to football supporters about anything to do with the team. We are pretty much clueless about the game, we have little or no understanding about managing a group of high-performance athletes, and we would not know where to assess the strengths and weaknesses of our opponents.

But we do care. A lot.

[SHODAN]

Hopefully if enough people speak out about our frailties it might sink in down Easter road way, a midfield of the same 3 players from last season didn't work then so obviously it's not going to work now, how many times have we been saying Stevenson/Hanlon are not 1st pick

All right mate just told Lee, he says he'll think about it.

[SunshineOnLeith]

You seem to have accidentally hit the new thread button, rather than replying to the existing thread(s) on the front page on this topic. How embarrassing for you.

[HoboHarry]

Hopefully if enough people speak out about our frailties it might sink in down Easter road way, a midfield of the same 3 players from last season didn't work then so obviously it's not going to work now, how many times have we been saying Stevenson/Hanlon are not 1st pick

You should change your name to Just Turned 14

[at last 61]

You seem to have accidentally hit the new thread button, rather than replying to the existing thread(s) on the front page on this topic. How embarrassing for you.

In my defense I've got long COVID and forget everything 😁 just frustrated that we don't learn from our mistakes

[at last 61]

You should change your name to Just Turned 14

I wish,no on second thought no, just that if Lee doesn't learn from mistakes he is a goner

[CentreLine]

I wish,no on second thought no, just that if Lee doesn't learn from mistakes he is a goner

I wish you a speedy recovery from long covid. Must be awful. Get well

[Jdawg]

Lee here: Bolt.

But seriously, if those 2 aren't 1st pick, who from the squad we currently have are?

Agreed about the midfield though, that triumvirate should never start together and if it needs another midfielder to add depth being brought in to facilitate that then so be it.

Games are won and lost in the centre of the park and we're shooting ourselves in the foot starting those 3 together. Once all fully fit etc. it should be Jeggo, Newell and Levitt and I'd be intrigued to see the case against that argument tbh a far better version of Jeggo and I would agree.

[lyonhibs]

a far better version of Jeggo and I would agree.

But in the current absence of a far better version of Jeggo, would you not still agree, perhaps through gritted teeth?

[Jdawg]

But in the current absence of a far better version of Jeggo, would you not still agree, perhaps through gritted teeth?

Probably. Pity he can barely make a 5 yard pass though.

[California-Hibs]

The guy is spot on about Hanlon and Stevenson. I don't care that it upsets folk who are caught up in the romance of their longevity. They've been great servants to the club and are cup winning legends, but time has rolled on and caught up with them and they aren't the players they were. These two absolutely wouldn't get anywhere near a Hearts or Aberdeen team. As to the reply but who do you play instead? You bloody go out and sign there replacements, 2 years ago!

Shoot me down all you want, there's plenty Hibs fans out there who agree and many other fans from other teams rightfully highlight it aswel, they're finished and it's time we improved the defense, big time. It's going to be the undoing on the genuine quality we DO have in attack.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Hopefully if enough people speak out about our frailties it might sink in down Easter road way, a midfield of the same 3 players from last season didn't work then so obviously it's not going to work now, how many times have we been saying Stevenson/Hanlon are not 1st pick

“Down Easter Road way” sound like the start a of a yarn - a pink one.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Hanlon's interceptions, tackles and blocks saved us from a proper doing yesterday. LJ will have seen that for himself. I'm not sure he needs to listen to a random.

Its like no matter how well Hanlon does some folks specs either dont appear to work or filter it out.
Whilst he may not be the ulitimate answer we’ve seen the difference when he is in / out of the team and impact it has. He’s in the taighlivht year mibby but that’s not his fault.

All said rather than listen I’d rather Lee looked and learned from his mistakes

[lyonhibs]

The guy is spot on about Hanlon and Stevenson. I don't care that it upsets folk who are caught up in the romance of their longevity. They've been great servants to the club and are cup winning legends, but time has rolled on and caught up with them and they aren't the players they were. These two absolutely wouldn't get anywhere near a Hearts or Aberdeen team. As to the reply but who do you play instead? You bloody go out and sign there replacements, 2 years ago!

Shoot me down all you want, there's plenty Hibs fans out there who agree and many other fans from other teams rightfully highlight it aswel, they're finished and it's time we improved the defense, big time. It's going to be the undoing on the genuine quality we DO have in attack.

Especially in the case of Stevenson, various LB signings have been made and seen off. Not that he's immortal, but so far he's been better than all his rivals. Let's see how Obita does of course

[ancient hibee]

Especially in the case of Stevenson, various LB signings have been made and seen off. Not that he's immortal, but so far he's been better than all his rivals. Let's see how Obita does of course


Hanlon and Stevenson we’re both posted missing for the winning goal on Sunday I’m afraid.

[lyonhibs]

Hanlon and Stevenson we’re both posted missing for the winning goal on Sunday I’m afraid.

The whole team got caught on the hop from a corner but individual blame notwithstanding they are both liable to the occasional poor game/howler. Point is, seemingly less so than anyone who's been brought in to compete with/replace them.

[Jones28]

Hanlon and Stevenson we’re both posted missing for the winning goal on Sunday I’m afraid.

Hanlon was up for the set piece we had 10 seconds prior to the goal.

[SickBoy32]

The guy is spot on about Hanlon and Stevenson. I don't care that it upsets folk who are caught up in the romance of their longevity. They've been great servants to the club and are cup winning legends, but time has rolled on and caught up with them and they aren't the players they were. These two absolutely wouldn't get anywhere near a Hearts or Aberdeen team. As to the reply but who do you play instead? You bloody go out and sign there replacements, 2 years ago!

Shoot me down all you want, there's plenty Hibs fans out there who agree and many other fans from other teams rightfully highlight it aswel, they're finished and it's time we improved the defense, big time. It's going to be the undoing on the genuine quality we DO have in attack.

Disagree with the bulk of this post, but particularly that nonsense in bold

Without knowing the intricacies of the Aberdeen/Hearts squads - Hanlon is a far better centre half than both Rowles and Scales just off the top of my head.

Think folk need to be careful what they wish for here - we have seen far far worse left backs and centre halves over the years

As is stands, Hanlon is comfortably our best centre half, and it remains to be seen as to our best left back - I know who I'd be putting my money on though and it's not Obita !

[SickBoy32]

Hanlon was up for the set piece we had 10 seconds prior to the goal.

Correct, and a brutal delivery from Newell allowed a quick counter

Jeggo and Fish then managed to allow a free header 6 yards from goal

But aye - pile on of two of our best ever servants !!

[ancient hibee]

Hanlon was up for the set piece we had 10 seconds prior to the goal.

Think the set piece had been taken,ball out to Newell agan-aImless lob to goalie. Their players were alert and took off-ours were second best as they’d been for most of the match.

[WhileTheChief..]

Correct, and a brutal delivery from Newell allowed a quick counter

Jeggo and Fish then managed to allow a free header 6 yards from goal

But aye - pile on of two of our best ever servants !!

It’s not about a pile on, it’s about trying to improve our squad.

Neither of these players have been getting any better the last few seasons. To suggest that we keep them because they’ve been good servants is another example of us being soft as a club.

We need to move forward and improve. That means replacing existing players, no matter who they are or what they’ve done for us in the past.

No doubt they’ll join SDG and McGregor in the back room staff anyways.

[SickBoy32]

It’s not about a pile on, it’s about trying to improve our squad.

Neither of these players have been getting any better the last few seasons. To suggest that we keep them because they’ve been good servants is another example of us being soft as a club.

We need to move forward and improve. That means replacing existing players, no matter who they are or what they’ve done for us in the past.

No doubt they’ll join SDG and McGregor in the back room staff anyways.

I agree we need to improve the squad, however I'm not sure that means punting our best centre half and arguably our best left back? I'd be looking to offload Bushiri first, ideally with a starting XI quality replacement. We can then gradually improve on this basis. PH and LS are just easy targets for some

Midfield is a massive issue for us and would 10% be my priority, probably followed by the keeper

Not sure if that final point re back room staff is a dig at the club, but I like players that 'get it' remaining within the club. Important to maintain a sense of identity IMO

[California-Hibs]

Disagree with the bulk of this post, but particularly that nonsense in bold

Without knowing the intricacies of the Aberdeen/Hearts squads - Hanlon is a far better centre half than both Rowles and Scales just off the top of my head.

Think folk need to be careful what they wish for here - we have seen far far worse left backs and centre halves over the years

As is stands, Hanlon is comfortably our best centre half, and it remains to be seen as to our best left back - I know who I'd be putting my money on though and it's not Obita !


Again, just because he's CURRENTLY our best centre half doesn't mean we shouldn't actively be looking to sign better. He's lost a lot of his pace and has never been very commanding in the air, I've never been particularly impressed with his pitch personality either. Again, in years gone by he's been an asset but folk are turning a blind eye if for the past few seasons they're watching Hibs and Paul Hanlon and thinking he gives confidence in the centre of defense. He's very soft, it's no mythical reason we conceded so many goals from crosses.

Then there's Stevenson who is so so predictable. He'll next to never take a man on and will ALWAYS cut inside for a safe sidewards/backwards pass, always.

Great servants undoubtedly but if we want to progress we absolutely should be signing much much better. 3 goals at home to St Mirren? 3 goals across the piece to the Andorans? It needs to be so much stronger in there and once again we looked to have not addressed it. I'd hoped Harbottle was signed as a starter but that looks like it may not be the case, same with Obita as left back. Early days for both of them though so we'll see.

[WestStandWillie]

Again, just because he's CURRENTLY our best centre half doesn't mean we shouldn't actively be looking to sign better. He's lost a lot of his pace and has never been very commanding in the air, I've never been particularly impressed with his pitch personality either. Again, in years gone by he's been an asset but folk are turning a blind eye if for the past few seasons they're watching Hibs and Paul Hanlon and thinking he gives confidence in the centre of defense. He's very soft, it's no mythical reason we conceded so many goals from crosses.

Then there's Stevenson who is so so predictable. He'll next to never take a man on and will ALWAYS cut inside for a safe sidewards/backwards pass, always.

Great servants undoubtedly but if we want to progress we absolutely should be signing much much better. 3 goals at home to St Mirren? 3 goals across the piece to the Andorans? It needs to be so much stronger in there and once again we looked to have not addressed it. I'd hoped Harbottle was signed as a starter but that looks like it may not be the case, same with Obita as left back. Early days for both of them though so we'll see.

You just made that up. Putting words in capital letters doesn't make it fact :rolleyes: