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theonlywayisup
04-08-2023, 06:13 AM
Delferrière - he certainly a player I would like to see more of. Thought he played well against an admittedly poor side. I'm not convinced we want to play him as a full-back against the better SPFL sides, but he played well.

Willis1875
04-08-2023, 06:22 AM
Not the best defensively but uses the ball well,floated a couple of nice balls over the top and seems to have a decent cross on him.I’d say it’s his shirt to lose just now

B.H.F.C
04-08-2023, 06:53 AM
Hard to judge properly against that but thought he did well. Was one of the better players down at Blackpool as well.

Looked like someone who was determined to do well and absolutely buzzing to be there. Bit of enthusiasm goes a long way.

superfurryhibby
04-08-2023, 07:07 AM
Largely based on posts on here, I assumed Deferriere would be away. He's not and it looks like he is going to play a part this season. Well done to him for sticking with it and earning a chance, jury is out still but we'll find out soon enough what he can offer.

Skol
04-08-2023, 07:19 AM
I think he will develop and grow and is a good member of the squad.

Only issue is with the announcer who needs to learn how to pronounce his name. Same applies to Youan.

Delfiere and Yohan are just wrong.

Dmas
04-08-2023, 07:28 AM
I like the look of him, like others I don’t think RB is his position but his use of the ball last night was great some cracking balls down the line and never panicked with it being played to him, this no 6 we’ve been looking for might have been under our noses the whole time

Dashing Bob S
04-08-2023, 07:41 AM
The OP deserves a thread of their own for being bothered to spell this players name correctly

Saint Hibee
04-08-2023, 08:09 AM
I thought he did okay, but Miller is a better option at RB.

Pretty Boy
04-08-2023, 08:12 AM
Tbh from what I have seen thus far Megwa looks a bit closer to 1st team ready as a back up RB. Obviously LJ disagrees though.

He's a confident lad clearly but he struggled a wee bit against their number 8 defensively, particularly in the 1st half.

Plenty development left in him but one for cameos here and there rather than a regular starter for me.

J-C
04-08-2023, 08:16 AM
He played DM or CM last season for the development team and also played CH against Bournemouth, so he's a versatile player. Came from a good team, technically is very decent and LJ bigged him up pre game. He seems very composed and still only 20, I like him

Trinity Hibee
04-08-2023, 08:22 AM
I think delferriere looks more like a holding midfielder to be honest. Good on the ball and gets stuck in. Can be our Claude makelele

DH1875
04-08-2023, 08:39 AM
He's never a right back. Struggled defensively and a better standard of player will tare him a new one.

hibee1875
04-08-2023, 08:54 AM
Delighted for him last night. I think a lot of the “I would punt Henderson, Tavares, melkerson and Delf” posts were well off the mark throwing him into that list.

He can play a part in the first team and offers a different dimension with his passing ability to the other RBs.

MagicSwirlingShip
04-08-2023, 09:15 AM
Johnson likes him. He’s done okay when called upon. Needs our support and hopefully he will grow into the jersey! Good to see another player come through…

Fuzzywuzzy
04-08-2023, 09:16 AM
He certainly seems to have filled out a bit since Edinburgh city. I like him and think he'll improve massively

The Captain....
04-08-2023, 09:22 AM
Thought he's had the potential to make an impact in the first team squad for the past year or so.

I'm not sure wing/full back is his best position but he strikes me as very versatile so could make it his own. Centre holding midfield for me would be his eventual best position.

I like his confidence..he seems very assured on the ball and doesn't panic in tricky situations.

Hope he gets a real run in the team now.


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Unseen work
04-08-2023, 09:36 AM
I think delferriere looks more like a holding midfielder to be honest. Good on the ball and gets stuck in. Can be our Claude makelele

The Leith Lassana Diarra

basehibby
04-08-2023, 10:15 AM
He's never a right back. Struggled defensively and a better standard of player will tare him a new one.

I remember Josh Doig struggled defensively too when he broke into the team. That one worked out OK!
From what I've read about him, Delferriere can play a number of positions but Right Back is considered his strongest- so your "never a right back" assertion does not stand up to scrutiny.

snedzuk
04-08-2023, 11:45 AM
He's never a right back. Struggled defensively and a better standard of player will tare him a new one.

This - I thought he struggled against their 8 and goodness knows what someone like Haksabanovic would do to him.

patlowe
04-08-2023, 11:55 AM
He did fine and there's definite potential there to develop further, but looks like he would struggle at RB against a better side at this stage. I guess it's whether he sticks it out as a utility squad player this season or goes out and gets more games.

Watching in the East 2nd half I loved seeing his enthusiasm for the game and sense of camaraderie - must be a great character to have around.

allmodcons
04-08-2023, 08:34 PM
Doesn’t look like a full back to me. Got caught and skinned too easily a couple of times last night. Not sure I’d fancy him up against a decent wide player.

DH1875
04-08-2023, 08:37 PM
I remember Josh Doig struggled defensively too when he broke into the team. That one worked out OK!
From what I've read about him, Delferriere can play a number of positions but Right Back is considered his strongest- so your "never a right back" assertion does not stand up to scrutiny.

Would seem a few folk maybe agree with me. Made their number 8 look like a superstar.
I'm not saying he won't be a good player. Just not at RB for me.

Donegal Hibby
04-08-2023, 08:49 PM
I thought Delferriere done well at RB tbh . Last year when watching him in pre season I thought he looked good . Player I wouldn't mind seeing us keeping as he can cover a few positions .
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/allan-delferriere/profil/spieler/503884

HibsGW
04-08-2023, 08:52 PM
Would seem a few folk maybe agree with me. Made their number 8 look like a superstar.
I'm not saying he won't be a good player. Just not at RB for me.

It was probably a bit of both but their number 8 looked a good player, skinned a few of our players and his deliveries into the box were decent too

Hibby Bairn
04-08-2023, 09:03 PM
Young player analysed and assessed in true .net style making one of his first starts (first ever?) for the team and in a major European competition.

brydekirk
04-08-2023, 10:51 PM
Really looked like he enjoyed playing on Thursday.
Good experience.

DH1875
06-08-2023, 02:55 PM
I'm not one to usually say I told you so but.......duck me, never a right back.

H18 SFR
06-08-2023, 03:05 PM
I'm not one to usually say I told you so but.......duck me, never a right back.

This is clear. Really worrying how he couldn’t pass a the ball at all - regardless of the positional issues. Really worried me that he was trying to get Boyle to take his man and Boyle rightly screamed at him that it was in fact his man.

LaMotta
06-08-2023, 04:43 PM
This is clear. Really worrying how he couldn’t pass a the ball at all - regardless of the positional issues. Really worried me that he was trying to get Boyle to take his man and Boyle rightly screamed at him that it was in fact his man.

Looked like he'd won a competition to get on the pitch today. His head totally went. Be surprised if he plays for us again after that performance (certainly not at right back).

K-Zazu
06-08-2023, 04:46 PM
Anyone could see he can’t play full back! Wonder what miller is thinking

HendoDelivered
06-08-2023, 04:47 PM
Decent player but not a full back. Play him in CM if you’re going to play him.

DH1875
06-08-2023, 04:53 PM
Anyone could see he can’t play full back! Wonder what miller is thinking

Not everyone 😉.

JammyDoidger
06-08-2023, 04:55 PM
We don't have a decent full back on our books. This is a massive problem.

Big_Franck
06-08-2023, 04:57 PM
We don't have a decent full back on our books. This is a massive problem.

From what I've seen I'd totally agree with that, unfortunately. We've not got a decent player in either full back position and that needs rectified asap.

J-C
06-08-2023, 05:02 PM
He played all last season in the development team as a DM/CM, he can fill in at RB but it's not where he's comfortable at, last Thursday showed us that, good going forward and with the ball but lacked awareness in the position, why have a natural RB on the bench if you're not going to play him, also knowing Cadden was out long term, why was a RB not brought in to play there.

Pretty Boy
06-08-2023, 05:04 PM
Anyone could see he can’t play full back! Wonder what miller is thinking

Anyone except the man who matters.

Lancs Harp
06-08-2023, 05:07 PM
Anyone except the man who matters.

Its going to ruin the lads confidence. Hes a good prospect but not as a starting fullback. LJ has thriwn him under a bus, its hardly nuturing up and coming talent.

Northernhibee
06-08-2023, 05:08 PM
Anyone except the man who matters.

Will Fish deserves a ton of credit for not folding after being put in the same position Delferriere was today. Why the manager insists on throwing youngsters to the wolves is beyond me.

Stokesy's on fire
06-08-2023, 05:10 PM
This is the managers doing he made the same mistake at Tynecastle when he put fish at RB. LJ isnt up to the job.

J-C
06-08-2023, 05:13 PM
Its going to ruin the lads confidence. Hes a good prospect but not as a starting fullback. LJ has thriwn him under a bus, its hardly nuturing up and coming talent.


He has a habit of throwing players under buses.

Hibeewilly
06-08-2023, 05:14 PM
Only Johnston will know why he didn't play Miller but to start a young midfielder in that position today was shocking. He threw the laddie to the wolves. As for the starting midfield, it was the same 18 months - 2 years ago. I was one prepared to give the manager time but I think he's out of his depth.....

Smartie
06-08-2023, 05:17 PM
Was it “throwing him under the bus” to keep faith with him after a decent performance the other night?

It clearly didn’t work, not arguing otherwise. After a decent first 10 he had an absolute horror show up to the point he was hooked, which was undoubtedly the right decision.

Delferriere was minging but the whole team was for the time he was on the park, all of whom have many more miles on the clock than him.

Don Giovanni
06-08-2023, 05:18 PM
Its going to ruin the lads confidence. Hes a good prospect but not as a starting fullback. LJ has thriwn him under a bus, its hardly nuturing up and coming talent.

Johnson risks shattering the confidence of two young players - Delferriere and Miller

JammyDoidger
06-08-2023, 05:20 PM
Anyone could see he can’t play full back! Wonder what miller is thinking

Who really cares, he's just as bad tbh. If we could move him on I'd be looking to do it and get someone that's actually reliable.

J-C
06-08-2023, 05:30 PM
Was it “throwing him under the bus” to keep faith with him after a decent performance the other night?

It clearly didn’t work, not arguing otherwise. After a decent first 10 he had an absolute horror show up to the point he was hooked, which was undoubtedly the right decision.

Delferriere was minging but the whole team was for the time he was on the park, all of whom have many more miles on the clock than him.

Apart from using the ball well and being comfortable in possession, Delf was exposed a good few times against the part timers in Andorra, every man and his dug could see he'd struggle against a Premier team.

Smartie
06-08-2023, 05:36 PM
Apart from using the ball well and being comfortable in possession, Delf was exposed a good few times against the part timers in Andorra, every man and his dug could see he'd struggle against a Premier team.

He was exposed, but it could have been put down to part of the learning process. Young players are going to make mistakes, occasionally get rinsed, but they need to learn quickly.

Clearly, with hindsight, that wasn’t the case. I just don’t think the “throwing young players under the bus” thing is justified. He kept faith with a player and it backfired.

I’m not convinced Miller is much nearer being ready. The RB situation is a nonsense but tbh the midfield is the thing that’s really boiling my piss right now.

B.H.F.C
06-08-2023, 05:39 PM
Will Fish deserves a ton of credit for not folding after being put in the same position Delferriere was today. Why the manager insists on throwing youngsters to the wolves is beyond me.

I’m no sure Fish was in the same position as Delferriere at any point today?

shamo9
06-08-2023, 05:42 PM
I’m no sure Fish was in the same position as Delferriere at any point today?

He's referring to Fish playing right back at Tynecastle in January and having a day to forget. A lot of people thought he was done after that but fair play, he came back stronger.

Real Emerald
06-08-2023, 05:45 PM
He was exposed, but it could have been put down to part of the learning process. Young players are going to make mistakes, occasionally get rinsed, but they need to learn quickly.

Clearly, with hindsight, that wasn’t the case. I just don’t think the “throwing young players under the bus” thing is justified. He kept faith with a player and it backfired.

I’m not convinced Miller is much nearer being ready. The RB situation is a nonsense but tbh the midfield is the thing that’s really boiling my piss right now.

Totally agree with you re midfield, we desperately need an attacking midfield playmaker and we pay a lot of money on Levitt who really doesn’t add anything at the moment especially playing so deep with this midfield. Right back is a glaring hole and I personally don’t think Miller is the answer. We need an experienced streetwise right back in this league.

500miles
06-08-2023, 05:49 PM
Delf also played behind a less than half fit boyle. I'm not saying I'm convinced by him, but LJ has again chucked one of his players under the bus.

B.H.F.C
06-08-2023, 05:49 PM
He's referring to Fish playing right back at Tynecastle in January and having a day to forget. A lot of people thought he was done after that but fair play, he came back stronger.

I didn’t read it that way, thought it was meant about game today. Either way, it’s same mistake from the manager again. Just like the midfield 3 that he played in his second game at Falkirk playing again today.

raeburnhibs
06-08-2023, 05:50 PM
Totally agree with you re midfield, we desperately need an attacking midfield playmaker and we pay a lot of money on Levitt who really doesn’t add anything at the moment especially playing so deep with this midfield. Right back is a glaring hole and I personally don’t think Miller is the answer. We need an experienced streetwise right back in this league.


why is Levitt so deep though? is he not better further forward. Miller has been decent in a couple of games, nothing more and is clearly not trusted. We need two new full backs as we shouldn't be relying on Lewis to play left all season

Real Emerald
06-08-2023, 05:54 PM
why is Levitt so deep though? is he not better further forward. Miller has been decent in a couple of games, nothing more and is clearly not trusted. We need two new full backs as we shouldn't be relying on Lewis to play left all season

I don’t really know enough about Levitt to have a view on which is his best position but we needed an attacking midfield playmaker and not a lightweight playing in front of our defence. Whatever is his right position he’s totally wasted playing in that position with the midfield players we currently have.

MrRobot
06-08-2023, 05:56 PM
We don't have a decent full back on our books. This is a massive problem.

We do, unfortunately he was made to sit on the bench while a midfielder struggled at RB.

Real Emerald
06-08-2023, 06:00 PM
We do, unfortunately he was made to sit on the bench while a midfielder struggled at RB.

I actually don’t think we have a decent experienced right back on our books and we need one. That included Miller, Cadden and Megwa. Experienced professionals in this league will tear our right hand side to shreds unless we address it.

DH1875
06-08-2023, 06:07 PM
Was it “throwing him under the bus” to keep faith with him after a decent performance the other night?

It clearly didn’t work, not arguing otherwise. After a decent first 10 he had an absolute horror show up to the point he was hooked, which was undoubtedly the right decision.

Delferriere was minging but the whole team was for the time he was on the park, all of whom have many more miles on the clock than him.

He wasn't decent though. Even the St Mirren figured that one out and that's why he was targeted as being the week point today.

Allant1981
06-08-2023, 06:09 PM
He was exposed, but it could have been put down to part of the learning process. Young players are going to make mistakes, occasionally get rinsed, but they need to learn quickly.

Clearly, with hindsight, that wasn’t the case. I just don’t think the “throwing young players under the bus” thing is justified. He kept faith with a player and it backfired.

I’m not convinced Miller is much nearer being ready. The RB situation is a nonsense but tbh the midfield is the thing that’s really boiling my piss right now.

Miller had a good end to last season though so is clearly ready

Allant1981
06-08-2023, 06:11 PM
Delf also played behind a less than half fit boyle. I'm not saying I'm convinced by him, but LJ has again chucked one of his players under the bus.

That had nothing to do with not being able to make a pass to a hibs player, or getting turned inside out, I believe he played CH previously so despite being out of position should still know how to defend and do the basics

JammyDoidger
06-08-2023, 06:12 PM
We do, unfortunately he was made to sit on the bench while a midfielder struggled at RB.

If you're meaning miller he's not the answer either, we should try and sign the boy from st Mirren. Ryan strain.

Hermit Crab
06-08-2023, 06:23 PM
3 mistakes rapid led to the penalty. Well out his depth at RB

DH1875
06-08-2023, 06:46 PM
That had nothing to do with not being able to make a pass to a hibs player, or getting turned inside out, I believe he played CH previously so despite being out of position should still know how to defend and do the basics

I thought he played as an attacking midfielder while on loan last season.

Real Emerald
06-08-2023, 06:48 PM
The other thing is, why play a development player out of position at right back at a time when you’re trying to ease your right winger back into the side after a 10 month lay off with an ACL. Surely you would give every protection you could to a new rookie player and equally you want your player coming back from injury not tasked with trying to cover for the youngster. None of it sits well.

Cammy
06-08-2023, 06:50 PM
If you're meaning miller he's not the answer either, we should try and sign the boy from st Mirren. Ryan strain.

Not sure why Miller is not the answer, he’s looked perfectly capable the last few times he’s been given the opportunity. He needs to be playing though, not stuck on the bench.

Allant1981
06-08-2023, 06:53 PM
I thought he played as an attacking midfielder while on loan last season.

Think he played as a CH at his previous club

LaMotta
06-08-2023, 07:01 PM
Who really cares, he's just as bad tbh. If we could move him on I'd be looking to do it and get someone that's actually reliable.

Miller was brilliant for most of the game v Celtic end of last season. Def not as bad, and some serious potential there.

Billy Whizz
06-08-2023, 07:03 PM
Miller was brilliant for most of the game v Celtic end of last season. Def not as bad, and some serious potential there.

One good game in over a year. How many times/minutes has he played for Hibs?
It’s obvious LJ doesn’t rate him

LaMotta
06-08-2023, 07:08 PM
One good game in over a year. How many times/minutes has he played for Hibs?
It’s obvious LJ doesn’t rate him

He has been injured for most of that time. He's proven against some of the best players in the league that he can perform well at this level. Can't say the same about Delf.

Real Emerald
06-08-2023, 07:19 PM
He has been injured for most of that time. He's proven against some of the best players in the league that he can perform well at this level. Can't say the same about Delf.

I’m not writing the guy off but he’s definitely not proven. We need an experienced, consistent right back and at the moment he’s neither.

Brightside
06-08-2023, 07:19 PM
No issue with the boy. Ruined by LJ

hibee-boys
06-08-2023, 07:25 PM
He certainly did not take being subbed well, punched a few chairs before finding a seat. Probably a combination of getting subbed halfway through a first half (never an enjoyable experience) along with the knowing he’d struggled. I’ve loved his enthusiasm and effort, I hope he’s strong enough to not let this impact on him long term.

Billy Whizz
06-08-2023, 07:27 PM
He certainly did not take being subbed well, punched a few cheer’s before finding a seat. Probably a combination of getting subbed halfway through a first half (never an enjoyable experience) along with the knowing he’d struggled. I’ve loved his enthusiasm and effort, I hope he’s strong enough to not let this impact on him long term.

He’s gone from kissing the turf at the end of the game on Thursday and on a high, to be taken off earlier. You have to feel his frustration as a person

B.H.F.C
06-08-2023, 07:28 PM
Felt sorry for him today but it wasn’t the greatest surprise in the world. There’s been signs of it in games. He got caught for a goal against Groningen with a ball in behind him. And he got done more than once the other night but we didn’t get punished. No way you’re getting away with that in the league as today showed. Manager at fault.

BSEJVT
06-08-2023, 07:28 PM
Delf is never a right back in a million years, 20 minutes against Andorra showed that.

Hung out to dry by LJ, who I doubt very much could spot a player even if he bumped into one.

Alarm bells ringing over DoF as well, but it depends on extent of his remit and whether it’s identifying weaknesses in squad or just getting players in for positions identified to him.

The squad is very weak and unbalanced, we are dreadful at full back and in midfield and for as much as we may have decent forward options, if we can’t keep the ball in midfield or keep it out the box we are screwed.

There is so much wrong with this squad that I would take money for anyone and everyone and start again.

We have dozens of players most of whom are of the same lamentable standard

SlickShoes
06-08-2023, 07:29 PM
His manager threw him under the bus, always the players at fault not the person paid to organise and motivated them.

jeffers
06-08-2023, 07:30 PM
He certainly did not take being subbed well, punched a few cheer’s before finding a seat. Probably a combination of getting subbed halfway through a first half (never an enjoyable experience) along with the knowing he’d struggled. I’ve loved his enthusiasm and effort, I hope he’s strong enough to not let this impact on him long term.

Saw that too. You could see him react in a similar way when he hit an intended pass out of play. He had a shocker, he clearly realised that, but he’s not a full back and never will be. I don’t know why he was ever played there.

Allant1981
06-08-2023, 07:32 PM
Might not be a full back but that doesn't excuse the terrible passing or marking, that's basic stuff for a professional footballer

BILLYHIBS
06-08-2023, 07:41 PM
Reminded me today of Tom James’ horrific performance against the Saints a few years back

Could not pass to a green jersey or keep the ball in play getting pulled all over the shop losing his man and possession repeatedly

Might be an uphill struggle for him to recover from this

HIBS NUTS
06-08-2023, 07:59 PM
He actually played for MVV IN HOLLAND, as a right back.
He was dreadful today.

LaMotta
06-08-2023, 08:07 PM
I’m not writing the guy off but he’s definitely not proven. We need an experienced, consistent right back and at the moment he’s neither.

Agree, bizarre we haven't signed one.

Onceinawhile
06-08-2023, 08:50 PM
Got to go with megwa or Miller.

They are right backs.

Delf is not. Unfair on three people putting him in.

Crammond Hibee
06-08-2023, 08:54 PM
Agree, bizarre we haven't signed one.

Right back defo required

Johnny_Leith
06-08-2023, 08:58 PM
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/talented-youngster-allan-delferri%C3%A8re-joins

Cited as a RB (Amongst other positions) when signed.

J-C
06-08-2023, 09:55 PM
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/talented-youngster-allan-delferri%C3%A8re-joins

Cited as a RB (Amongst other positions) when signed.

Big difference filling in as a RB and starting there, he played DM/CM all last season in the DEV team and those performances meant he's been added to the 1st team squad.

HIBS NUTS
07-08-2023, 06:47 AM
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/talented-youngster-allan-delferri%C3%A8re-joins

Cited as a RB (Amongst other positions) when signed.

I will say it again, he played for MVV in the netherlands as a right back.

Nicho87
07-08-2023, 06:51 AM
Rabbit in headlights at times

Numerous crosses came in on Thursday first half and he refused to try and go tight.

The Captain....
07-08-2023, 06:57 AM
I'm not sure the position was the problem with Delf yesterday, he just had a nightmare. Gave the ball away continually but was hardly alone in that the first 25 mins or so.

I still think there is a player there..I'd still prefer to see him in midfield at some point. He doesn't look comfortable at RB when under pressure tbh.

If you are Lewis Miller you'd be thinking it's time to move on. Manager just doesn't want to play/trust him. Another strange signing who is not better than we have and just makes up squad numbers.

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DH1875
07-08-2023, 06:58 AM
I will say it again, he played for MVV in the netherlands as a right back.

He played for Edinburgh City in midfield last season.

CapitalGreen
07-08-2023, 07:05 AM
I will say it again, he played for MVV in the netherlands as a right back.

He played 1 game out of 20 at right back for MVV. That’s the only senior game other than his previous 2 for Hibs where he has played right back.

Willis1875
07-08-2023, 07:10 AM
He played 1 game out of 20 at right back for MVV. That’s the only senior game other than his previous 2 for Hibs where he has played right back.

Correct,he played centre half whilst at MVV alongside a player called Matteo Waem.

Heisenberg
07-08-2023, 07:13 AM
So with Megwa seemingly relegated back to the youth team we only have one proper right back in the first team squad? Ideal.

CapitalGreen
07-08-2023, 07:13 AM
So with Megwa seemingly relegated back to the youth team we only have one proper right back in the first team squad? Ideal.

Megwa isn’t a right back.

lucky
07-08-2023, 07:19 AM
After Millers' performance in Andorra, he should be nowhere near Hibs first team.

Heisenberg
07-08-2023, 07:21 AM
Megwa isn’t a right back.

Is there another young player that we can call upon? Or do we really only have one actual right back across the whole club?

Willis1875
07-08-2023, 07:26 AM
Is there another young player that we can call upon? Or do we really only have one actual right back across the whole club?

Johnson will just continue to play anybody there….Cadden,Miller,Megwa,Fish,Delferriere…I’m sure he’s chucked Campbell in there a couple of times aswell

LaMotta
07-08-2023, 08:46 AM
After Millers' performance in Andorra, he should be nowhere near Hibs first team.

That line could be trotted out for everyone who played in Andorra apart from Newell.

MWHIBBIES
07-08-2023, 08:48 AM
Don't need to be playing in the right position to prevent that first goal. Doidge would've defended that better.

GreenNWhiteArmy
07-08-2023, 08:56 AM
Megwa isn’t a right back.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/why-the-rapid-rise-of-kanayo-megwa-can-help-solve-positional-riddle-for-hibs-4214609

This article from Patrick says he is. Bizarre we've then got a CM playing in the position Kanayo is best suited to. Feel for Delf, whether he is or isn't good enough for us won't be helped by playing out of position

Funny this article opens with "RB is a position we won't need to dip in to the market for"

Allant1981
07-08-2023, 10:58 AM
Don't need to be playing in the right position to prevent that first goal. Doidge would've defended that better.

100% correct, his passing was also horrendous, being played at RB has absolutely no impact on that

Centre Hawf
07-08-2023, 11:10 AM
Megwa isn’t a right back.

The club will 100% see him as a Right back in senior football. He won't make it as a centre half due to his stature.

cabbageandribs1875
07-08-2023, 11:22 AM
get Paul McGinn back :agree:









:tin hat:

Smartie
07-08-2023, 12:13 PM
get Paul McGinn back :agree:









:tin hat:

McGinn did very well for us and we’ve regressed in that position since he left.

A “solid pro” RB and the defence is at least acceptable.

Unseen work
07-08-2023, 12:39 PM
Struggling to feel sorry for him or go along with those saying LJ threw him under a bus.

He’s played men’s football before as a right back for standard liege and MVV.

He’s been on loan in Scotland and started right back last week.

He was given a chance at home in a position he’s played numerous times against St Mirren and struggled.

Could have just been an off day but he was given the oppertunity, something loads moan we don’t give young players enough of.

GreenArmy1875
07-08-2023, 12:42 PM
Delf had a poor game so what. Let's just see how he gets on moving forward. One bad game doesn't make a player instantly terrible with no future

DH1875
07-08-2023, 02:33 PM
Dunno. People pretty quick of the mark with Melkersen saying he's crap and should be nowhere near our first team squad yet he is younger than Delferrier and is played out of position.

WestStandWillie
09-08-2023, 12:22 PM
After Millers' performance in Andorra, he should be nowhere near Hibs first team.

:faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:

Could apply that statement to pretty much every player who was involved in the match.

McD
09-08-2023, 01:05 PM
Delf had a poor game so what. Let's just see how he gets on moving forward. One bad game doesn't make a player instantly terrible with no future


especially when we’ve given more experienced players many more opportunities in their actual position who’ve played crap/poorly/bad/mediocre in many of those opportunities

1875Sean
09-08-2023, 04:12 PM
Delf had a poor game so what. Let's just see how he gets on moving forward. One bad game doesn't make a player instantly terrible with no future

There was times he couldn’t get a game for Edinburgh last season, seems a good pro but I have doubts he is good enough

MrRobot
09-08-2023, 04:14 PM
:faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:

Could apply that statement to pretty much every player who was involved in the match.

:agree:

Allant1981
09-08-2023, 05:19 PM
There was times he couldn’t get a game for Edinburgh last season, seems a good pro but I have doubts he is good enough

Was that not down to injury towards the end, pretty sure he played almost every game until then

J-C
09-08-2023, 05:24 PM
Was that not down to injury towards the end, pretty sure he played almost every game until then


Yep, he was a standout for them until injured, then they broke the link with us, he was then a standout for the Dev team as a DM.

Allant1981
09-08-2023, 05:25 PM
Yep, he was a standout for them until injured, then they broke the link with us, he was then a standout for the Dev team as a DM.

He is a decent enough player, just not a RB

ancient hibee
09-08-2023, 05:27 PM
After Millers' performance in Andorra, he should be nowhere near Hibs first team.


A bit bit like Fish at Tynecastle? Seem to remember the same kind of posts.

J-C
09-08-2023, 05:39 PM
He is a decent enough player, just not a RB

I think he played RB at MVV while on loan, he's quite versatile but he's definitely a DM.

eastmainsmsh
09-08-2023, 06:26 PM
Has spoony signed for Dunfermline ?

HIBS NUTS
09-08-2023, 06:59 PM
Yep, he was a standout for them until injured, then they broke the link with us, he was then a standout for the Dev team as a DM.

He wasn’t a standout for FC EDINBURGH, before he was injured, he was often subbed, and was often booked.
He has generally been alright for the development team, and scored a double in one game i think, but again he has been nothing special .

Willis1875
09-08-2023, 07:04 PM
I think he played RB at MVV while on loan, he's quite versatile but he's definitely a DM.

Centre Half for the vast majority of his time there

HIBS NUTS
09-08-2023, 07:07 PM
He’s had 51 senior starts 0 goals.
He’s a defender.
15 starts for FC EDINBURGH, i remember checking his games , and i would guess, he was booked 6 times, and subbed 7 times.

HIBS NUTS
09-08-2023, 07:10 PM
If someone could check on FC EDINBURGH stats that would be great. 😃

J-C
09-08-2023, 08:04 PM
Centre Half for the vast majority of his time there


May well have been, there seems to be a bit of confusion as to where exactly he played, he's versatile and can play numerous defensive positions.

J-C
09-08-2023, 08:07 PM
He wasn’t a standout for FC EDINBURGH, before he was injured, he was often subbed, and was often booked.
He has generally been alright for the development team, and scored a double in one game i think, but again he has been nothing special .


Going by some of the guys on here seen of him and what the Edinburgh fans thought of him. Whatever he's a decent young player who's just turned 20 and was hung out to dry on Sunday, playing against part timers he got away the odd wee mistake, that was never going to happen against SPFL players.

CapitalGreen
26-08-2023, 04:33 PM
Despite the team playing absolutely s**** I thought Allan played very well in his favoured position today. Rarely gave the ball away (29/31 passes completed 93%) and created 3 chances - as many as the rest of the team combined. He also didn’t lose a tackle or an aerial dual.

Willis1875
26-08-2023, 04:34 PM
Despite the team playing absolutely s**** I thought Allan played very in his favoured position today. Rarely gave the ball away (29/31 passes completed 93%) and created 3 chances - as many as the rest of the team combined. He also didn’t lose a tackle or an aerial dual.

Wonder why it’s taken so long to play him there

Tyler Durden
26-08-2023, 04:36 PM
Despite the team playing absolutely s**** I thought Allan played very in his favoured position today. Rarely gave the ball away (29/31 passes completed 93%) and created 3 chances - as many as the rest of the team combined. He also didn’t lose a tackle or an aerial dual.

Agreed. I’d have liked to see him demand the ball and get a little more involved but I’m sure that would come with confidence and more games.

Only real bright spot today. Was surprised he went off ahead of Jeggo but the less said about the subs and tactical changes the better

LewysGot2
26-08-2023, 04:36 PM
I thought he was one brightish spot this afternoon. He worked hard and was neat and tidy.

lucky
26-08-2023, 04:36 PM
God knows why he was taken off. He was our best player today

HIBERNIAN-0762
26-08-2023, 04:36 PM
Utterly useless IMO

The Tubs
26-08-2023, 04:39 PM
God knows why he was taken off. He seemed to be what has been missing over the last few weeks. I thought Boruc looked decent too.

Vault Boy
26-08-2023, 04:39 PM
Utterly useless IMO

Did you watch the game?

HIBERNIAN-0762
26-08-2023, 04:42 PM
Did you watch the game?

Yes, don't know what all the fuss is 🤔

SChibs
26-08-2023, 04:46 PM
Yes, don't know what all the fuss is 🤔

What would you have liked him to do better?

Vault Boy
26-08-2023, 04:49 PM
Yes, don't know what all the fuss is 🤔

And your conclusion from his performance was he’s utterly useless? Get this man a scouting contract

04Sauzee
26-08-2023, 04:51 PM
God knows why he was taken off. He was our best player today

Thought he was one of our better performers. Was disappointed to see him hooked.

Seekyit
26-08-2023, 04:53 PM
I thought he was one brightish spot this afternoon. He worked hard and was neat and tidy.

Yep, liked the look of him, as you say, one positive from today.

Onion
26-08-2023, 04:55 PM
He was better than his last appearance, and better than many around him. Saying he was effective or good is a stretch.

scm70nyd1973
26-08-2023, 04:56 PM
I actually thought that he looked like a mature and confident player - totally different in other strange positions I think that our gifted leader has played him in.

Willis1875
26-08-2023, 04:59 PM
Create his own space,always available for a pass and utilised the ball well.Sign of a good player
Lovely wee through ball into Youan

Centre Hawf
26-08-2023, 05:06 PM
Still some developing to do but I think today showed us there was certainly a footballer in there that we can add into our midfield department on a more consistent/regular basis.

B.H.F.C
26-08-2023, 05:10 PM
Thought it was a bit of a nothing performance same as the rest of the midfield. Any praise is based on him being young rather than the performance IMO. We never had any control of the game.

Stairway 2 7
26-08-2023, 05:12 PM
Definite bright spark, he's a young lad so plenty chance to develop

J-C
26-08-2023, 05:26 PM
Definite positive from today, did well last season for the Dev squad but is certainly a midfielder as seen today and not a RB.

percy veer
26-08-2023, 05:50 PM
What would you have liked him to do better?

Side pass side pass, backwards pass repeat , shooting absolute garbage , never a hibs player.

Steve88
26-08-2023, 05:55 PM
Not impressed.

Like others have pointed out here, I believe he is only getting plaudits because he is inexperienced.

Delph was constantly taking the safe option and playing it back.

He was a midfielder today, his job was to grab that game by the scruff of the neck and create - he created nothing

CapitalGreen
26-08-2023, 05:58 PM
Side pass side pass, backwards pass repeat , shooting absolute garbage , never a hibs player.

He created 3 scoring chances for his teammates. Were those backwards or sideways passes? 17 of his 31 passes were played into the final third of the pitch.

Tyler Durden
26-08-2023, 05:58 PM
Not impressed.

Like others have pointed out here, I believe he is only getting plaudits because he is inexperienced.

Delph was constantly taking the safe option and playing it back.

He was a midfielder today, his job was to grab that game by the scruff of the neck and create - he created nothing

He created a good chance for Doidge first half and Youan second half.

Appreciate some folk won’t want to praise anyone today but he did alright.

H18 SFR
26-08-2023, 06:07 PM
He created 3 scoring chances for his teammates. Were those backwards or sideways passes? 17 of his 31 passes were played into the final third of the pitch.

Where did you get this info? My usual go to site is no longer publishing for the SPFL.

CapitalGreen
26-08-2023, 06:12 PM
Where did you get this info? My usual go to site is no longer publishing for the SPFL.

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1742688/Live/Scotland-Premiership-2023-2024-Hibernian-Livingston

CapitalGreen
26-08-2023, 06:15 PM
Not impressed.

Like others have pointed out here, I believe he is only getting plaudits because he is inexperienced.

Delph was constantly taking the safe option and playing it back.

He was a midfielder today, his job was to grab that game by the scruff of the neck and create - he created nothing

He created 3 chances, as many as the rest our team combined.

percy veer
26-08-2023, 06:16 PM
He must have played excellent if the Stats say so

percy veer
26-08-2023, 06:17 PM
He created 3 chances, as many as the rest our team combined.

I'm toiling to think of 1 of those chances genuinely

Alfred E Newman
26-08-2023, 06:17 PM
Side pass side pass, backwards pass repeat , shooting absolute garbage , never a hibs player.

That could be every player in Hibs midfield. For what it’s worth I though he was ok today.

hfc-1875
26-08-2023, 06:47 PM
Thought he was our best player today couldn’t believe when he was taken off and jeggo was kept on. On that showing he’s our second best centre mid after newell.

Real Emerald
26-08-2023, 06:52 PM
Thought he was our best player today couldn’t believe when he was taken off and jeggo was kept on. On that showing he’s our second best centre mid after newell.

I’m not in anyway having a dig at Delferriere here but being the second best midfielder in the Hibs team is not exactly a glowing report. 😂

H18 SFR
26-08-2023, 06:54 PM
https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1742688/Live/Scotland-Premiership-2023-2024-Hibernian-Livingston

Thanks for that, really appreciate it.

LaMotta
26-08-2023, 08:45 PM
Not impressed.

Like others have pointed out here, I believe he is only getting plaudits because he is inexperienced.

Delph was constantly taking the safe option and playing it back.

He was a midfielder today, his job was to grab that game by the scruff of the neck and create - he created nothing

Wild take. Comfortably the best Hibs player on the park. Bonkers taking him off unless he was injured.

DH1875
26-08-2023, 09:04 PM
Did someone not say at the start of this thread he was a midfielder and not a RB only for them to be shot down an rubbished?

Oh aye, wait a minute, that was me.

Bobby's Cinema
26-08-2023, 09:07 PM
He created a good chance for Doidge first half and Youan second half.

Appreciate some folk won’t want to praise anyone today but he did alright.
That was a lovely bit of play that Scott Allan would have been happy with.

I've thought he's showed enough whenever I've seen him to warrant more game time.

marinello59
26-08-2023, 09:50 PM
Thought he was our best player today couldn’t believe when he was taken off and jeggo was kept on. On that showing he’s our second best centre mid after newell.

:agree:
He was one of the few positives today.

CREESE
26-08-2023, 10:50 PM
Always amazes me how fans see the game differently. I thought Jeggo was the only player to get pass marks today. Didn’t stop running and shouting at teammates to work harder.

Spoke to a mate after the game and without prompting also thought that Jeggo was best player for Hibs.

Now I’m not saying Delferriere was the worst but I was looking for a lot more than any of the others gave today.

Harbottle was terrible, almost as bad as the ref.

Youan needs to learn to simplify the game. You don’t need to take everyone on or beat the defender 3 times before putting a cross in.

Poor Doidge was starved of any service before going off.

LaMotta
27-08-2023, 09:48 AM
Always amazes me how fans see the game differently. I thought Jeggo was the only player to get pass marks today. Didn’t stop running and shouting at teammates to work harder.

Spoke to a mate after the game and without prompting also thought that Jeggo was best player for Hibs.

Now I’m not saying Delferriere was the worst but I was looking for a lot more than any of the others gave today.

Harbottle was terrible, almost as bad as the ref.

Youan needs to learn to simplify the game. You don’t need to take everyone on or beat the defender 3 times before putting a cross in.

Poor Doidge was starved of any service before going off.

Watch the sportscene analysis for a neutral's take on Jeggo. He was awful. Harbottle was poor but the manager hung him out to dry playing him at right back. Most of the crowd could see that given his round of applause when he walked round the pitch after being subbed.

Smartie
27-08-2023, 09:53 AM
Watch the sportscene analysis for a neutral's take on Jeggo. He was awful. Harbottle was poor but the manager hung him out to dry playing him at right back. Most of the crowd could see that given his round of applause when he walked round the pitch after being subbed.

He wasn’t awful.

If you want to take a couple of examples with a view to telling a story to a tv audience then you can certainly paint it that way.

You could do similar to make out that Boyle and Youan are world beaters or absolute diddies from yesterday.

Over the 90 Jeggo was decent but he’ll have to take a big share of the blame for one or two awful moments.

LaMotta
27-08-2023, 10:00 AM
He wasn’t awful.

If you want to take a couple of examples with a view to telling a story to a tv audience then you can certainly paint it that way.

You could do similar to make out that Boyle and Youan are world beaters or absolute diddies from yesterday.

Over the 90 Jeggo was decent but he’ll have to take a big share of the blame for one or two awful moments.

He didn't do his job, we lost 3 goals at home to a Livvy team that hasn't scored an away goal in the league since January.

For me that is awful and he's regularly awful, contributing to 3 goals conceded in 3 league games in 3 defeats. Given that he offers zilch going forward in an attacking sense, then he really has no purpose.

The difference with Youan and Boyle is that, despite bad moments, they consistently prove their worth to the team with moments of class.

Iain G
27-08-2023, 10:02 AM
He didn't do his job, we lost 3 goals at home to a Livvy team that hasn't scored an away goal in the league since January.

For me that is awful and he's regularly awful, contributing to 3 goals conceded in 3 league games in 3 defeats. Given that he offers zilch going forward in an attacking sense, then he really has no purpose.

What was his specific job yesterday that he didn't do? Going forward it seems he created 3 good chances for our forwards which is certainly more than zilch.

B.H.F.C
27-08-2023, 10:02 AM
He wasn’t awful.

If you want to take a couple of examples with a view to telling a story to a tv audience then you can certainly paint it that way.

You could do similar to make out that Boyle and Youan are world beaters or absolute diddies from yesterday.

Over the 90 Jeggo was decent but he’ll have to take a big share of the blame for one or two awful moments.

IMO it’s the same old story that we see all too often with this squad where people make a case for individuals. Loads of them are always considered to have been decent despite us being collectively garbage.

I thought Delferriere was busy enough yesterday but he didn’t have any real positive influence on the game. Same goes for Jeggo. The standard of our midfield has fallen so much that some of the stuff we saw yesterday is considered to be good.

CapitalGreen
27-08-2023, 10:02 AM
What was his specific job yesterday that he didn't do? Going forward it seems he created 3 good chances for our forwards which is certainly more than zilch.

He was talking about Jeggo not Delf.

LaMotta
27-08-2023, 10:05 AM
What was his specific job yesterday that he didn't do? Going forward it seems he created 3 good chances for our forwards which is certainly more than zilch.


He was talking about Jeggo not Delf.

Yeah was talking about Jeggo. Thought Delf did relatively well, which was the consensus around me too.

Iain G
27-08-2023, 10:09 AM
He was talking about Jeggo not Delf.

Well it is a Delf thread 🤣 but my bad.

Smartie
27-08-2023, 10:15 AM
IMO it’s the same old story that we see all too often with this squad where people make a case for individuals. Loads of them are always considered to have been decent despite us being collectively garbage.

I thought Delferriere was busy enough yesterday but he didn’t have any real positive influence on the game. Same goes for Jeggo. The standard of our midfield has fallen so much that some of the stuff we saw yesterday is considered to be good.

I’m our midfield’s number 1 critic. I hate that we can’t seem to get any sort of effective blend out of all the players we have who play there.

I don’t really accept that they were that bad yesterday, individually or collectively and weren’t the reason we lost that game.

B.H.F.C
27-08-2023, 10:41 AM
I’m our midfield’s number 1 critic. I hate that we can’t seem to get any sort of effective blend out of all the players we have who play there.

I don’t really accept that they were that bad yesterday, individually or collectively and weren’t the reason we lost that game.

I thought it was just yet another nothing performance from our midfield that we’ve become so accustomed to.

eastmainsmsh
27-08-2023, 10:48 AM
He had played in jupelier and eredivese and was farmed out to Edinburgh City with respect to them but whos decision was that
He played well yesterday

Heisenberg
28-09-2023, 09:06 AM
Signed a new three year deal. Fair to say he’s not a right back but seems highly rated by the new manager as a midfielder.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/allan-delferri%C3%A8re-signs-new-contract

green day
28-09-2023, 09:10 AM
Pleased with that, young, strong hungry player.

flash
28-09-2023, 09:17 AM
Won't be on big money so well worth a punt if the manager likes what he sees.

HendoDelivered
28-09-2023, 09:18 AM
Happy enough with that tbh, will grow into a good player in midfield I feel. Never a right back!

HIBS NUTS
28-09-2023, 09:25 AM
He is certainly a tryer.
Personally i think we have some better midfielders in the development squad.
Our manager is the real deal, and sees him every day,
He must show up well in training.

Unseen work
28-09-2023, 09:36 AM
Surprising, but hope it works out.

Centre Hawf
28-09-2023, 11:32 AM
He is certainly a tryer.
Personally i think we have some better midfielders in the development squad.
Our manager is the real deal, and sees him every day,
He must show up well in training.

I'll be honest, I don't think we do. That's not to say the rest aren't good but more of a plus on Allan.

I watched a fair whack of the Dev squad games in the second half of the season and the guy ran the show in pretty much every game I seen him play in. It maybe helped he was older than the others (maybe even those he played against?) but what struck me was that he was a lot more capable of playing forward and attacking that has been made out since we signed him. Was a goal threat in all the games I seen and was great at linking up with the forwards.

Jury will still be out on if he can make a dent in the first team but I'm looking forward to seeing if he can. But as you say we do have a good few lads below him age wise that could develop into talents as well, Rudi, McAllister, Aiken, and Zaid are four I've seen that play in that area of the park who have impressed me at times.

Bishop Hibee
28-09-2023, 11:48 AM
I like him and think this is a good move. He’ll learn a lot from watching Jeggo in the holding midfield role and from Montgomery.

Greencore
28-09-2023, 11:52 AM
Announce new 4 year deal for monty and vente.

Vault Boy
28-09-2023, 01:24 PM
Rather surprised by the new deal, but heartened all the same. I trust Monty’s judgement and have liked what I’ve seen from Delf in his cameos for us. I wonder why he’s not really been used off the bench so far.

Paulie Walnuts
28-09-2023, 01:27 PM
Strange one.

When was his deal due to expire?

Torto7
28-09-2023, 01:28 PM
Good he's a useful player and could become a very good one.

Willis1875
28-09-2023, 01:39 PM
Strange one.

When was his deal due to expire?

Next summer,he signed a 2 1/2 year deal in January 2022

J-C
28-09-2023, 02:05 PM
Good young player, he stood out last season for the Dev team when the link with Edinburgh City ended, he's versatile but is definitely a midfielder, calm on the ball not afraid to get stuck in, he can only get better.

JimBHibees
28-09-2023, 02:28 PM
Little surprised to be honest not sure i see him getting much game time if deemed to be a centre mid

jacomo
28-09-2023, 02:50 PM
Good luck to him. Big endorsement from the new gaffer, who seems to love developing young players and bringing them into the first team.

Hibernian Verse
28-09-2023, 02:54 PM
He is certainly a tryer.
Personally i think we have some better midfielders in the development squad.
Our manager is the real deal, and sees him every day,
He must show up well in training.

Who is better than him?

Genuine question, as I don't watch development games.

HIBS NUTS
28-09-2023, 05:23 PM
Who is better than him?

Genuine question, as I don't watch development games.

I’ve watched him many times mostly development games , and my opinion is he tries hard, and has a decent attitude , unlike some others i haven’t seen him control games .
I definitely don’t see him playing central midfield ahead of Newell, Jeggo, JDH, Levitt, or Josh Campbell..
I think Rudi Molotnikov, is already a better player ,Murray Aiken is better, and has more potential, the same with Jacob mcintyre, Mcallister has more potential , Landers more potential, there is a very young player bruce, a midfielder that is absolutely brilliant for his age.
Giving Allan a 3 year deal blocks their possible pathway into the first team , he’s alright, and hope he does well.

Wilson
28-09-2023, 05:31 PM
I think Joe Newell name-checked him in that dts podcast that was doing the rounds. I get the impression he is higher rated among his peers than his performances (we'd think) merit.

It is good that we have so many talented youngsters mentioned. I think somevwill get loans where AD has already had his.

tamig
28-09-2023, 05:37 PM
If he wasn’t rated, I don’t think NM would have him on the bench. Although it’s still early days, think its sound to suggest that NM knows the score where young prospects are concerned.

Jones28
28-09-2023, 05:40 PM
Speaking for myself here but I didn’t even know Whittaker was on our books until Monty came in, fully trust his judgment.

Brightside
28-09-2023, 08:12 PM
I think Joe Newell name-checked him in that dts podcast that was doing the rounds. I get the impression he is higher rated among his peers than his performances (we'd think) merit.

It is good that we have so many talented youngsters mentioned. I think somevwill get loans where AD has already had his.

Newell spoke about Megwa not Delf I think.

MagicSwirlingShip
28-09-2023, 09:20 PM
Newell spoke about Megwa not Delf I think.

He said Alain, Jake & Dylan are all technically really good players and hopes himself and Jeggo can help bring them on.