Henderson

[Key West]

Massively disappointed in where we are with Henderson, looks like he's surplus to requirement,I thought his best position was in the number 10 role unfortunately that is a luxury that Hibs can't afford,I feel he was never allowed to settle in to a position that suited him,whilst understanding all the criticism I hope he finds his form and becomes the player he threatens to be, seems like he's not part of LJ's plans.

[Since452]

I'm not sure he's ever threatened to be a player. Unless it's against Bonnyrigg Rose or someone. For me he's lightweight and ineffective and we're lumbered with his wage. Very poor signing.

[jacomo]

Yes of course I hope he finds his form, but there’s a good reason he might not be part of the gaffer’s plans.

For a seemingly ball-playing, technical midfielder his use of the ball is very poor. He had a good amount of game time when he first came in, but did very little with it.

[Allant1981]

Massively disappointed in where we are with Henderson, looks like he's surplus to requirement,I thought his best position was in the number 10 role unfortunately that is a luxury that Hibs can't afford,I feel he was never allowed to settle in to a position that suited him,whilst understanding all the criticism I hope he finds his form and becomes the player he threatens to be, seems like he's not part of LJ's plans.

He is injured just now so can't be included, actually think LJ likes him despite fans not thinking he is any good

[theonlywayisup]

Yes of course I hope he finds his form, but there’s a good reason he might not be part of the gaffer’s plans.

For a seemingly ball-playing, technical midfielder his use of the ball is very poor. He had a good amount of game time when he first came in, but did very little with it.

I remember watching him for the first time as a permanent Hibs signing - think it was a pre-season game against an English team at Easter Road. We get a free kick just outside the box and up steps Henderson. I'm thinking "go on Hendo, show us what you're made off" but he thumps it miles over the crossbar heading towards the south top tier. A shocking effort by a professional player that I thought was so skillful. It's been disappointment after disappointment since then. The odd flash of great play but largely woefully inadequate.

[Eyrie]

The warning signs were clearly there when Henderson was signed as he'd done little of merit when on loan at Ross County in the Premiership or the following season when on loan to Dunfermline at a lower level (in itself a red flag). Despite that we signed him on a pre-contract instead of simply taking him on loan for six months to assess him.

[Trinity Hibee]

Have to agree. Hardly had a glowing reputation before he arrived. Nobody wants to see a player fail at a club but there also has to be a realisation that it isn’t working for him and it’s best for all if he gets games elsewhere. I could be wrong but he still looks very slight to be playing first team football. He doesn’t have a quick burst of pace to get away from anyone either.

He might not be in too much of a hurry too leave though as he's probably on a decent wage here and might struggle to get that elsewhere.

[Bridge hibs]

The warning signs were clearly there when Henderson was signed as he'd done little of merit when on loan at Ross County in the Premiership or the following season when on loan to Dunfermline at a lower level (in itself a red flag). Despite that we signed him on a pre-contract instead of simply taking him on loan for six months to assess him.

Its strange how his career so far has panned out, considering he was good enough to play 8 games for celtc and even managed a man of the match performance

He started his first game for Celtic on 24 February 2019, in a 4–1 home win over Motherwell in which he was named man of the match.

[brog]

The warning signs were clearly there when Henderson was signed as he'd done little of merit when on loan at Ross County in the Premiership or the following season when on loan to Dunfermline at a lower level (in itself a red flag). Despite that we signed him on a pre-contract instead of simply taking him on loan for six months to assess him.


People need to remember we can't just take people on loan. There has to be a 3 way agreement and there's a quota. In Henderson's case however I think he was a free and had several offers. He is however currently injured and as poster above said, I think LJ rates him.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

He obviously has technical ability but he's too easily pushed off the ball for the SPL and muscled out. He'd fare better in a less physical league abroad perhaps in the second divisions.

[AK86]

Ahhh, the great Shaun Maloney. What an absolute disaster that man was .

[Key West]

Judging by his moves back and forward to Celtic it seems they were unsure about his potential, he still only 23 far too young to be written off, I hope that LJ rates him and that we see the real Henderson in a Hibs Jersey.

[#2 Double Tap]

henderson looked a decent prospect with good potential including sell on value, all you boys slating the signing are a bit OTT imo, the profile that henderson had is exactly the type we should be loking at signing......sure it hasnt worked out this time, but i would much rather be signing scottish based youngesters with some potential to develop than over priced rest of the world guys.......

[Hibees1973]

Henderson and numerous others are a symptom of the last 2 very poor managers that Hibs have appointed. Maloney & Johnson.

Our squad is littered with players who have contributed nothing. Yes, a few have been shipped out but there are at least 5 or 6 others who are taking up places in the squad and it's likely we are having difficulty moving them on.

Some recruitment will be restricted because we have players like Henderson still on the wage bill.

[Key West]

henderson looked a decent prospect with good potential including sell on value, all you boys slating the signing are a bit OTT imo, the profile that henderson had is exactly the type we should be loking at signing......sure it hasnt worked out this time, but i would much rather be signing scottish based youngesters with some potential to develop than over priced rest of the world guys.......

I agree with you,it's always a gamble and at the time worth taking,I'd like to see the manager getting a performance and consistency out of him,maybe like a lot of players he's been lacking confidence,when he's given his opportunity he needs to affect the game,that would be the kick start in my opinion his redevelopment.

[Key West]

Apologies, to his redevelopment.

[1875Sean]

I agree with you,it's always a gamble and at the time worth taking,I'd like to see the manager getting a performance and consistency out of him,maybe like a lot of players he's been lacking confidence,when he's given his opportunity he needs to affect the game,that would be the kick start in my opinion his redevelopment.

Not being involved yesterday I think shows LJ isn’t bothered about his development, can see him out before the window closes

[500miles]

Henderson was better in the league cup and preseason last year than McGeady.

I've heard Dundee United want him. They expect to dominate possession next season and believe that is where Henderson does well. It makes sense, I've seen good performances from him for Hibs and Celtic in those positions. He has goals and assists.

He's not a nothing player, but he has quite pronounced strengths and weaknesses which make consistency difficult to maintain.

[Skol]

henderson looked a decent prospect with good potential including sell on value, all you boys slating the signing are a bit OTT imo, the profile that henderson had is exactly the type we should be loking at signing......sure it hasnt worked out this time, but i would much rather be signing scottish based youngesters with some potential to develop than over priced rest of the world guys.......

I thought it was pretty clear early on that Henderson wasn’t going to make it. I did and still do hope to be proved wrong. However he has had plenty opportunity, and much more than some others, but is yet to show he is good enough.

[MrRobot]

Henderson is nowhere near good enough for Hibs unfortunately.

[Since452]

The sooner we get the likes of Henderson, McKirdy, Tavares and Melkersen off the books the better. Four incredibly poor signings we're lumbered with.

[Jones28]

Henderson and numerous others are a symptom of the last 2 very poor managers that Hibs have appointed. Maloney & Johnson.

Our squad is littered with players who have contributed nothing. Yes, a few have been shipped out but there are at least 5 or 6 others who are taking up places in the squad and it's likely we are having difficulty moving them on.

Some recruitment will be restricted because we have players like Henderson still on the wage bill.

How is Henderson indicative of the recruitment under Johnson when he wasn’t signed by him?

LJ is copping a lot of flack at the moment, some justified, but stuff like this is just adding to the frenzy around him.

Johnson has had one window under the new structure, the current window, and I don’t think there’s any argument to be made that the club hasn’t learned it’s lesson from the post Jack Ross era.

[Trinity Hibee]

How is Henderson indicative of the recruitment under Johnson when he wasn’t signed by him?

LJ is copping a lot of flack at the moment, some justified, but stuff like this is just adding to the frenzy around him.

Johnson has had one window under the new structure, the current window, and I don’t think there’s any argument to be made that the club hasn’t learned it’s lesson from the post Jack Ross era.

He was signed by Maloney who is mentioned above. Others, that Johnson signed, are in a similar position.

[Jones28]

He was signed by Maloney who is mentioned above. Others, that Johnson signed, are in a similar position.

Signed by Maloney. Not Johnson, so how can Johnson get criticised for signing him?

Signed under a previous structure headed by Iain Gordon. The structure was to sign young players with potential and bring them on. It failed. The club made a change that has seen us adjust our policy to bring in a better balance of youth and experience.

[Trinity Hibee]

Signed by Maloney. Not Johnson, so how can Johnson get criticised for signing him?

Signed under a previous structure headed by Iain Gordon. The structure was to sign young players with potential and bring them on. It failed. The club made a change that has seen us adjust our policy to bring in a better balance of youth and experience.

I’m pretty sure he’s comparing the signing of Henderson by Maloney to that of tavares, McKirdy by Johnson.

It’s been a recurring theme of both of their tenures.

[Jones28]

I’m pretty sure he’s comparing the signing of Henderson by Maloney to that of tavares, McKirdy by Johnson.

It’s been a recurring theme of both of their tenures.

Maybe so, but my counter point is that the club have made significant changes to their recruitment policy in the last year that have addressed the issues.

Johnson came in under the previous structure and had to work within it last year and in January. I would make the argument that he has only had the current window the work within the new structure.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Ahhh, the great Shaun Maloney. What an absolute disaster that man was .

Pretty sure Henderson was made an offer before Maloney came in. He wanted to work with Maloney (think he’d maybe worked with him at Celtic?) which lead to him accepting the offer.

[Musselbound]

The sooner we get the likes of Henderson, McKirdy, Tavares and Melkersen off the books the better. Four incredibly poor signings we're lumbered with.

I may be in a minority here but I think Henderson is a decent enough squad player and has made more impact than the others mentioned above. My main gripe is with the length of contract he was given. Two years would have been more sensible.

[Donegal Hibby]

Henderson has been another poor signing and he's simply not good enough for us tbh which is why we accepted the loan offer for him in January . I think he's one the manager would definitely like to move on though with 2 years left on his contract its a difficult situation tbh

[Hibbyradge]

Not being involved yesterday I think shows LJ isn’t bothered about his development, can see him out before the window closes

I thought he was injured?

[blackpoolhibs]

I was surprised Tavarez never got a look in yesterday, we needed someone who the support could slaughter, but by just using the kids LJ missed out on giving us a scapegoat to hound.

[#2 Double Tap]

I was surprised Tavarez never got a look in yesterday, we needed someone who the support could slaughter, but by just using the kids LJ missed out on giving us a scapegoat to hound.

you musta been gutted newell wasnt playing :greengrin

[wookie70]

Henderson reminds me of Scott Allan but without the telling passes. He seems disinterested in defending, gives the ball away far too often and when he does his head goes down rather than getting annoyed and trying to win it back. I think he has lots of attributes to be a decent player but his spirit or heart are the opposite of his brother who may not have had the same ability but had far more desire and on the field character. Like Tavares I didn't think he would be a good signing after a few times seeing him and my mind hasn't changed. I thought Melkerson had a chance but he seems to have completely lost his confidence. We have made some poor judgements on long contracts in teh last few years with little evidence that they would be good moves.

[badabing67]

Judging by his moves back and forward to Celtic it seems they were unsure about his potential, he still only 23 far too young to be written off, I hope that LJ rates him and that we see the real Henderson in a Hibs Jersey.

I wouldn't call 23 that young, its nudging a players peak years. I think its a good age to judge where a players career is going. That would be either up, down or stagnation. In relation to Henderson, as much as as I have seen of him. He is essentially the same player that came in through the door. I don't think he has developed at all in his time at Hibs, where others in the same time frame have. I don't think that is down to Hibs but the player himself. We have provided him with opportunity to develop and he hasn't taken it. As far as I am concerned I have not seen anything to suggest there is another real Henderson other than the the real Henderson that we have observed in games.

Personally I have nothing against him. I just don't see anything that's suggests he is a asset to the squad. I fact I think he is just in the way of younger players who could make a better fist of the opportunity we can give them. I think it's obvious he is not good enough and should be moved on. Lets face it Hearts or Aberdeen wouldn't be interested why should we.

[CapitalGreen]

Henderson has been another poor signing and he's simply not good enough for us tbh which is why we accepted the loan offer for him in January . I think he's one the manager would definitely like to move on though with 2 years left on his contract its a difficult situation tbh

Who did we accept a loan offer from?

[Hibees1973]

How is Henderson indicative of the recruitment under Johnson when he wasn’t signed by him?

LJ is copping a lot of flack at the moment, some justified, but stuff like this is just adding to the frenzy around him.

Johnson has had one window under the new structure, the current window, and I don’t think there’s any argument to be made that the club hasn’t learned it’s lesson from the post Jack Ross era.

I was categorising both Maloney & Johnson as poor appointments by Hibs.

Both have dubious records signing players at Hibs. Know Maloney was only here for a short period of time but I can see Johnson going the same way as him, leaving Hibs years before his contract expires. Absolving Johnson of criticism and just blaming the recruitment guys is wrong. He is the manager and surely he has a major influence on all signings at the club. If he doesn't what kind of manager is he, a puppet.

There have been far too many car crash moments by Johnson for me to take to him. This is everything from signings, team selection and media interviews. Just my opinion, but this is what this forum is all about, giving our opinion. I don't expect you or anyone else to agree.

Johnson's constant soundbites to journalists are as irritating as when Maloney was trying to be cryptic and clever.

[badabing67]

Who did we accept a loan offer from?

Wigan I think but not 100% sure

[Donegal Hibby]

Who did we accept a loan offer from?
Rumour was Wigan around about the time I think we accepted a bid for JDH from Forrest Green.

[Key West]

I was surprised Tavarez never got a look in yesterday, we needed someone who the support could slaughter, but by just using the kids LJ missed out on giving us a scapegoat to hound.

😂 Took me ages to realise that the Turnbull Tornadoes were a thing of the past the barometer has dropped considerably since then.

[EVENTUALLY]

😂 Took me ages to realise that the Turnbull Tornadoes were a thing of the past the barometer has dropped considerably since then.


What a side they were. Absolutely Fabulous. Joyous memories of watching a team that was stacked with skill, flair and momentum. Scored one then another then another and on and on and on.

[Key West]

What a side they were. Absolutely Fabulous. Joyous memories of watching a team that was stacked with skill, flair and momentum. Scored one then another then another and on and on and on.

They were a great watch.

[Eyrie]

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People need to remember we can't just take people on loan. There has to be a 3 way agreement and there's a quota. In Henderson's case however I think he was a free and had several offers. He is however currently injured and as poster above said, I think LJ rates him.

Henderson still had six months left on his contract with Celtc when he arrived in January 2022 so he was on loan at first.

[Not In The Know]

Massively disappointed in where we are with Henderson, looks like he's surplus to requirement,I thought his best position was in the number 10 role unfortunately that is a luxury that Hibs can't afford,I feel he was never allowed to settle in to a position that suited him,whilst understanding all the criticism I hope he finds his form and becomes the player he threatens to be, seems like he's not part of LJ's plans.


Nothing to do with us or the club. He’s pish.

[leith lynx]

What a side they were. Absolutely Fabulous. Joyous memories of watching a team that was stacked with skill, flair and momentum. Scored one then another then another and on and on and on.

A wonderful time to be alive.

[Key West]

Nothing to do with us or the club. He’s pish.

Thanks for being constructive in your criticism. 👍