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Northernhibee
27-07-2023, 04:51 PM
You can’t be enjoying this. You must know that your time has passed.

Please just retire with a bit of dignity intact.

Steven79
27-07-2023, 04:58 PM
You can’t be enjoying this. You must know that your time has passed.

Please just retire with a bit of dignity intact.He should have retired at the end of last season.

He must know himself that he's no longer up to it?

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Ozyhibby
27-07-2023, 04:59 PM
It’s not Marshall’s fault. It’s our fault for allowing it.


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lyonhibs
27-07-2023, 05:00 PM
Should have been retired by anyone with eyes after some of his clangers last season

Paulie Walnuts
27-07-2023, 05:00 PM
The worst Hibs keeper since Simon Brown.

You could see it quite early doors last season. He wasn’t great, the stats backed it up and then the howlers started rolling in.

Should never wear a Hibs strip again.

northgreen24
27-07-2023, 05:01 PM
It’s not Marshall’s fault. It’s our fault for allowing it.


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Thinks saving what was basically a cross is his fault

supermcginn
27-07-2023, 05:01 PM
Just can't understand why he was even playing. Stripped of the captaincy and a keeper with 11 caps signed in the summer for a fee sitting on the bench. Hopefully that's his last game.

Pretty Boy
27-07-2023, 05:02 PM
I started the thread about him last season and got pelters from a fair few but the issues were clear then and even more clear tonight.

He's done and it was obvious after about a dozen games last season he was done. I genuinely thought he would have moved into some kind of coaching role or other role at the end of last season, he's already studying football directorship at uni. He can't be enjoying this anymore, it's embarrassing for him.

Allant1981
27-07-2023, 05:02 PM
It’s not Marshall’s fault. It’s our fault for allowing it.


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100% was his fault, an amateur keeper would be saving that shot

Vault Boy
27-07-2023, 05:03 PM
Just can't understand why he was even playing. Stripped of the captaincy and a keeper with 11 caps signed in the summer for a fee sitting on the bench. Hopefully that's his last game.

Yep, all feels quite capricious.

It’s a really sorry end for a player with a wonderful career to his name, but dragging the arse out of it like this is doing no good for us as a team or Marsh’s legacy as a player.

tonyrougier123
27-07-2023, 05:03 PM
Competent goalie needed!

cameronw-hfc
27-07-2023, 05:05 PM
I started the thread about him last season and got pelters from a fair few but the issues were clear then and even more clear tonight.

He's done and it was obvious after about a dozen games last season he was done. I genuinely thought he would have moved into some kind of coaching role or other role at the end of last season, he's already studying football directorship at uni. He can't be enjoying this anymore, it's embarrassing for him.

It's been obvious since early on, I think a few just didn't want to admit it. He barely saves anything, and xosts us a he'll of a lot

B.H.F.C
27-07-2023, 05:05 PM
Paying money for a new goalie, not playing him and watching Marshall proceed to do what he’s spent months doing is completely on Johnson.

Heisenberg
27-07-2023, 05:05 PM
Shouldn’t be near starting for us again.

Stuart93
27-07-2023, 05:05 PM
He’s done. Said last season he was finished when he was chucking the ball in the net

H18 SFR
27-07-2023, 05:06 PM
It is indeed on LJ, however, DM simply won’t start next week.

bringbackbenny
27-07-2023, 05:06 PM
The worst Hibs keeper since Simon Brown.

You could see it quite early doors last season. He wasn’t great, the stats backed it up and then the howlers started rolling in.

Should never wear a Hibs strip again.

Yup could see early doors that the reaction and agility was slower, plus lack of concentration. He has competition, no excuses get the other lad in.

Centre Hawf
27-07-2023, 05:06 PM
I didn't want to admit it at times last season but you could tell by the split he was finished and we just needed to get over the line with him as we had no alternatives.

Get the new lad in next week and start fresh. Marsh can either retire or play number 2, up to him.

JohnM1875
27-07-2023, 05:10 PM
Actually ridiculous he started tonight. Shocking the majority of last season, stripped of the captaincy and singed two other keepers. Yet he starts?! 😂

Billy McKirdy
27-07-2023, 05:10 PM
Time for Wollacot to step up, DM deserves nothing less, he gave us prior warning numerous times last season he’s past it.

Callum_62
27-07-2023, 05:11 PM
I don't want to be too hard on marshall after the Scott Allan thing

Something seems amiss to me though

Whether I'm right or not, he shouldn't be starting

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Mikey_1875
27-07-2023, 05:12 PM
Not much in it between him and the Dundee Utd goalie last season.

Unseen work
27-07-2023, 05:14 PM
Wollacotts turn now.

Marshall made plenty mistakes last season and got the luck to start the first competitive game of the season and made a blunder

It was the weakest shot you’ll likely see and somehow he fumbled it

Stuart93
27-07-2023, 05:20 PM
I don't want to be too hard on marshall after the Scott Allan thing

Something seems amiss to me though

Whether I'm right or not, he shouldn't be starting

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After the Scott Allan thing?

What do you mean?

Carheenlea
27-07-2023, 05:24 PM
A costly error. Basically gifting a goal.

Very frustrating, and with number of errors starting to amass, that feeds into the confidence of the defence and also the fans.

When you start to half expect an error then it’s time to consider a change of No 1.

cameronw-hfc
27-07-2023, 05:26 PM
I don't want to be too hard on marshall after the Scott Allan thing

Something seems amiss to me though

Whether I'm right or not, he shouldn't be starting

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It's age. That's all. He's slow now, takes a year to get down and even longer to get back up

Since452
27-07-2023, 05:26 PM
Too many mistakes now. Marciano was dropped twice for less. I've defended him but he needs dropped.

HIBS NUTS
27-07-2023, 05:27 PM
I’ve defended him, but that mistake was horrific

Callum_62
27-07-2023, 05:28 PM
It's age. That's all. He's slow now, takes a year to get down and even longer to get back upIt might be but it's the 3rd at tynie that is stuck in my mind

I said a while before SA issues came up that something is up with him physically - seemed to lose all his agility

As i said regardless imo it time to drop Marshall

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HIBS NUTS
27-07-2023, 05:28 PM
Don’t be fooled their goalie is crap as well.

Malthibby
27-07-2023, 05:31 PM
It's age. That's all. He's slow now, takes a year to get down and even longer to get back up

Unfortunate but true - he is beginning to lose a number of identikit goals because he's just not agile enough any more.
The rest of them were pxsh as well (Newell excepted) but goalies just can't afford to make the kind of regular mistakes which cost games.

Fuzzywuzzy
27-07-2023, 05:32 PM
I genuinely think Marshall will start next week. Blackpool we may try wallocott for first half on saturday

JimBHibees
27-07-2023, 05:32 PM
Don’t be fooled their goalie is crap as well.

Agree he looked ropey also. Get Woollcott in v Blackpool then next week.

Stuart93
27-07-2023, 05:33 PM
It might be but it's the 3rd at tynie that is stuck in my mind

I said a while before SA issues came up that something is up with him physically - seemed to lose all his agility

As i said regardless imo it time to drop Marshall

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It’s a bit of a stretch to even suggest Marshall’s performances may be down to the same issue SA had.

What a weird suggestion

coldingham hibs
27-07-2023, 05:36 PM
If Marshall is currently being selected ahead of Woollcott then what does that say about our confidence in him. Very concerning.

Callum_62
27-07-2023, 05:36 PM
It’s a bit of a stretch to even suggest Marshall’s performances may be down to the same issue SA had.

What a weird suggestionIm not suggesting it's the same issue as Scott Allan but there's certainly noticeable signs that don't look right in my uninformed option

Watch the 3rd again at tynie and tell me that's anything to do with age

As I said I'm probably totally wrong and hopefully I am

I'm not going to go OTT bashing the guy tho

He should be dropped however

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Mantis Toboggan
27-07-2023, 05:39 PM
Im not suggesting it's the same issue as Scott Allan but there's certainly noticeable signs that don't look right in my uninformed option

Watch the 3rd again at tynie and tell me that's anything to do with age

As I said I'm probably totally wrong and hopefully I am

I'm not going to go OTT bashing the guy tho

He should be dropped however

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Really unhelpful speculation, no idea why you would do so

Callum_62
27-07-2023, 05:40 PM
Really unhelpful speculation, no idea why you would do soBecause it's what I see?

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cameronw-hfc
27-07-2023, 05:40 PM
Im not suggesting it's the same issue as Scott Allan but there's certainly noticeable signs that don't look right in my uninformed option

Watch the 3rd again at tynie and tell me that's anything to do with age

As I said I'm probably totally wrong and hopefully I am

I'm not going to go OTT bashing the guy tho

He should be dropped however

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Not trying to be a know it all, but I've coached decent enough boys in Sunday league level in goals and it's the same for them. Get decent players that have played at lower league level dropping down and you notice right away at times how slow they can be if age is an issue.

You see guys that know what to do, they know they coxudld do it, but for some reason their body just won't allow them to get down as sharp as before. It'd sad as he was definitely a good keeper in his day, just his day is long gone now.

Older keepers are fine if they have retained some sort of agility, Marshall unfortunately doesn't look like he has.

Watch him trying to get up for the rebound, it's actually sad. He slips but even before that he honestly looks like a Sunday league player trying to get up quickly.

Allant1981
27-07-2023, 05:48 PM
Because it's what I see?

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He is old and just not very good any longer

JohnM1875
27-07-2023, 05:50 PM
He is old and just not very good any longer

He shouldn't start again for us. It really is as simple as that. It's been blatantly obvious since about October last year.

Honestly so confused at him starting tonight.

Stuart93
27-07-2023, 05:51 PM
Im not suggesting it's the same issue as Scott Allan but there's certainly noticeable signs that don't look right in my uninformed option

Watch the 3rd again at tynie and tell me that's anything to do with age

As I said I'm probably totally wrong and hopefully I am

I'm not going to go OTT bashing the guy tho

He should be dropped however

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Just think it’s a bit of a strange suggestion based on nothing really apart from a player looking slow because he’s older

If you’re not up for slating him them don’t but that’s better than wild speculation about someone’s health

GreenNWhiteArmy
27-07-2023, 05:53 PM
Loved Marsh for Scotland

But he's ranged from OK to absolute garbage for us

Allant1981
27-07-2023, 05:53 PM
He shouldn't start again for us. It really is as simple as that. It's been blatantly obvious since about October last year.

Honestly so confused at him starting tonight.

I didn't think he would start when we signed a keeper but playing him last Friday was a sign he would start tonight unfortunately

Callum_62
27-07-2023, 05:53 PM
Just think it’s a bit of a strange suggestion based on nothing really apart from a player looking slow because he’s older

If you’re not up for slating him them don’t but that’s better than wild speculation about someone’s healthIt's not only because that's, there's a replay of the 3rd at tynie where he seems to almost go dizzy

Probably explains why he didn't just come and clear it

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BoomtownHibees
27-07-2023, 05:54 PM
It might be but it's the 3rd at tynie that is stuck in my mind

I said a while before SA issues came up that something is up with him physically - seemed to lose all his agility

As i said regardless imo it time to drop Marshall

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You think Marshall’s being ***** is down to a health issue?

Callum_62
27-07-2023, 05:55 PM
You think Marshall’s being ***** is down to a health issue?I'm just being reserved with slating the guy because of one or 2 things I've seen

He should be dropped regardless but that's as far as my criticism will go

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WestStandWillie
27-07-2023, 05:56 PM
He’s becoming very unreliable and that doesn’t bode well with a keystone cops defence.

Bad Habits
27-07-2023, 06:23 PM
That's enough for me, Wollacotts jersey to lose.

JohnM1875
27-07-2023, 06:26 PM
That's enough for me, Wollacotts jersey to lose.

Should have been the second he signed though. Marshall shouldn't be in the squad any more, never mind starting.

Hibees1973
27-07-2023, 06:32 PM
Loved Marsh for Scotland

But he's ranged from OK to absolute garbage for us

That's where I am.

When he signed I thought great, no need to worry about our goalie for the next couple of years.

He has been a bitter disappointment at Hibs and has heaped pressure on himself and our defence due to his displays.

Can't just hope that he will get better. We have so many others in the squad who we hope will get better. Melkersen, JDH, Miller, Henderson, Tavares, the list is endless.

We have signed so many poor players in the last couple of years it's no wonder we get displays like tonight when we keep persisting with them in the hope they will get better.

LancsHibs
27-07-2023, 06:37 PM
Horror show from Marshall, shouldn’t have been anywhere near the stating XI. Fault lies firmly at Johnson’s feet.
Reminds me of another Euro Hibs goalkeeping disaster, first minute of the first leg against Brondby, Otso Vertanen:bitchy:say no more

cameronw-hfc
27-07-2023, 06:40 PM
Horror show from Marshall, shouldn’t have been anywhere near the stating XI. Fault lies firmly at Johnson’s feet.
Reminds me of another Euro Hibs goalkeeping disaster, first minute of the first leg against Brondby, Otso Vertanen:bitchy:say no more


Least Otso was young and had that excuse. No excuses for Marshall. Dreadful

CockneyRebel
27-07-2023, 06:41 PM
Don’t be fooled their goalie is crap as well.


He played for half an hour with one leg and we still lost!

Onceinawhile
27-07-2023, 07:12 PM
He's been rubbish the entire time he's been here.

Nowhere near good enough.

007
27-07-2023, 07:16 PM
You made a mistake there.

He's done as a poster. Needs to call it a day. 😀

Paulie Walnuts
27-07-2023, 07:19 PM
I'm just being reserved with slating the guy because of one or 2 things I've seen

He should be dropped regardless but that's as far as my criticism will go

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If Marshall had a health issue he wouldn’t be playing. He’s just brutal.

HibbyAndy
27-07-2023, 07:29 PM
Please let that be DM last game for hibs, He's rubbish , He's truly past his best , Has a mistake in him every other game

Stuart93
27-07-2023, 09:14 PM
Just watched it again, I have no clue what he’s even trying to do

It was that bad it looked like he meant it

Smartie
27-07-2023, 09:18 PM
I took a long time to be convinced but there's little doubt he's finished.

Even after his poor finish to last season I was prepared to see him take a break over the summer, come back refreshed and maybe improve again but you just cannot accept that second goal.

He's done.

We just need to hope the new guy is better.

Callum_62
27-07-2023, 09:18 PM
Just watched it again, I have no clue what he’s even trying to do

It was that bad it looked like he meant itI think his slow feet movement done him

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JohnM1875
27-07-2023, 09:25 PM
I said it earlier and I wasn't being hyperbolic. I honestly think he shouldn't even be in the squad going forward.

Wollacott in goals and Boruc as number two.

Think LJ mentioned something about Marsh doing some qualifications or badges just now. Fine, let him fully focus on that.

I've met him and he's honestly a fantastic guy, absolutely nothing against him. He's just nowhere near good enough to be playing for Hibs these days

NORTHERNHIBBY
27-07-2023, 09:26 PM
Wollacot and Boruc are decent replacements to allow Marshall to bow out of first team action. Whether it's the first competitive game of the season or not, a professional goalie should have no complaints about losing his place after that showing.

Greencore
27-07-2023, 09:27 PM
Not good enough for the level we want to be at.

Paulie Walnuts
27-07-2023, 09:27 PM
I said it earlier and I wasn't being hyperbolic. I honestly think he shouldn't even be in the squad going forward.

Wollacott in goals and Boruc as number two.

Think LJ mentioned something about Marsh doing some qualifications or badges just now. Fine, let him fully focus on that.

I've met him and he's honestly a fantastic guy, absolutely nothing against him. He's just nowhere near good enough to be playing for Hibs these days

If we’ve two other fit goalkeepers then he shouldn’t be anywhere near the squad.

flash
27-07-2023, 09:37 PM
He is simply done.

It's not a reflection on a great career just a fact of life.

Happens to everyone eventually.

bingo70
27-07-2023, 10:10 PM
Wollacot and Boruc are decent replacements to allow Marshall to bow out of first team action. Whether it's the first competitive game of the season or not, a professional goalie should have no complaints about losing his place after that showing.

Has anybody seen Boruc play to make that judgement?

I’m not meaning to be argumentative, there’s no question Marshall is done, it’s just whether Boruc is likely to provide genuine competitions for Wollacott.

Worth remembering Wollacott is likely to be away at the African nations cup with Ghana during the season so we will need Boruc or Marshall.

CL0762
27-07-2023, 10:13 PM
One of the worst I’ve seen for Hibs.

He was a shambles last season and has carried that into this season.

Nicho87
27-07-2023, 10:14 PM
Liability

Even when he saves shots they don’t seem to be pushed wide

They’re pushed back into the pitch

If he was 21 everyone would be saying we need experience

Times up

Sorry not sorry

Chorley Hibee
27-07-2023, 10:15 PM
Has he managed to get off the floor from their second goal yet?

Beyond abysmal.

Heisenberg
27-07-2023, 10:16 PM
Has he managed to get off the floor from their second goal yet?

Beyond abysmal.

The save itself was bad but his attempt to get back up after it was even worse. Actually felt kind of sorry for him as he clearly just doesn’t have it in him to perform at a good level any longer.

Stuart93
27-07-2023, 10:25 PM
He is simply done.

It's not a reflection on a great career just a fact of life.

Happens to everyone eventually.

It’s more of a shame than anything else

ErinGoBraghHFC
27-07-2023, 10:38 PM
It’s more of a shame than anything else

It is a shame because he was a cracking keeper who served the national team well, but it’s time to hang up the gloves David.


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Shrekko
27-07-2023, 10:39 PM
His level of performance after an initially decent first 5-6 games has been as bad as any keeper I’ve seen at Hibs and I’m sad to say that.

Absolutely no redeeming qualities at this point although he still looks quite a young fit guy. It’s baffling.

Leith Green
27-07-2023, 10:42 PM
Cost us so many times last season and here we go again. The management clearly realised the damage caused last season by signing 2 new goalkeepers and replacing him as captain, So why the hell has he still been selected in our first competitive match of new season.

Baader
27-07-2023, 10:46 PM
Like Marshall, was pleased when he signed but he just shouldn't be our number 1 anymore. Or probably even at the club. Quite obviously finished and unfortunately a complete liability now.

B.H.F.C
27-07-2023, 10:51 PM
Cost us so many times last season and here we go again. The management clearly realised the damage caused last season by signing 2 new goalkeepers and replacing him as captain, So why the hell has he still been selected in our first competitive match of new season.

To still play him and for him then to make the type of mistake in the first game, that became all too frequent in the latter part of last season, was madness.

At least it’s happened in a game where we have a second chance. Wollacott should have the gloves now and, if he doesn’t, god knows why we signed him.

Criswell
27-07-2023, 10:52 PM
Enough is Enough. The Club simply cannot tolerate any more goalkeeping horror shows.

Leith Green
27-07-2023, 10:54 PM
The worst Hibs keeper since Simon Brown.

You could see it quite early doors last season. He wasn’t great, the stats backed it up and then the howlers started rolling in.

Should never wear a Hibs strip again.



Yet the slavering idiots on sportscene waxed lyrical regularly, as if we had him to be thankful for saving us most of the season

Hermit Crab
28-07-2023, 12:11 AM
He shouldn't play again after today. The reality is though, Johnson will probably pick him next Thursday...:rolleyes:

matty_f
28-07-2023, 12:37 AM
He nearly cost us goals against Groningen and he's chucked one in yesterday. He genuinely couldn't complain about losing the jersey now.

Time for a change.

NAE NOOKIE
28-07-2023, 01:22 AM
He nearly cost us goals against Groningen and he's chucked one in yesterday. He genuinely couldn't complain about losing the jersey now.

Time for a change.

Indeed, two horrific attempts to pass the ball out he was very lucky didn't end up in the back of the net, ok not poor attempts at saves, but still alarm bell stuff.

Far too many clangers last season and this on top of it has to signal the end for him. He's had a great career, made himself a bit of a Scotland legend with that penalty save, but man its time to step aside and give the new guy a chance. This club has really built itself a bit of a reputation as a graveyard for goalies over the last few decades ... which makes it a bit less of a surprise that the only one who has achieved legendary status at Hibs in all that time is a 4 stone overweight Irishman who had barely played a game for a year before we signed him and only played about 10 games for the club :greengrin

MWHIBBIES
28-07-2023, 06:42 AM
Been playing against us for months now. Murray Johnstone should've finished last season and wallacot should be playing now

lucky
28-07-2023, 07:09 AM
Marshall is finished, he's had a good career but he's just got it anymore. My concerns the two other keepers were brought in by Johnson so god know what standard they will be at over the course of the season.

flash
28-07-2023, 07:29 AM
Marshall is finished, he's had a good career but he's just got it anymore. My concerns the two other keepers were brought in by Johnson so god know what standard they will be at over the course of the season.

They will be murder because every signing we ever make is completely hopeless.

Callum_62
28-07-2023, 07:34 AM
They will be murder because every signing we ever make is completely hopeless.100%

Dunno why we even bother making signings anymore

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EVENTUALLY
28-07-2023, 08:00 AM
He is simply done.

It's not a reflection on a great career just a fact of life.

Happens to everyone eventually.

He started off last season quite well and his kicking was a notable upgrade as was his general distribution but a keeper’s main job is to keep the ball out of net. Most of his saves were in the category that a first choice SPFL keeper would make. Errors in the 2nd half of last season definitely affected his confidence and his kicking deteriorated too. He also let in a couple of very savable pens which would have gone a long way to lifting his performance levels. I think he knows the writing is on the wall with the signing of Wallacott and the captaincy situation and instead of fighting back and showing some grit he’s withering away.
Wallacott should come in now. Charlton supporting relatives have said he’s a very good keeper so now is the time for LJ to get him in and for him to show it.

Paulie Walnuts
28-07-2023, 08:03 AM
He started off last season quite well and his kicking was a notable upgrade as was his general distribution but a keeper’s main job is to keep the ball out of net. Most of his saves were in the category that a first choice SPFL keeper would make. Errors in the 2nd half of last season definitely affected his confidence and his kicking deteriorated too. He also let in a couple of very savable pens which would have gone a long way to lifting his performance levels. I think he knows the writing is on the wall with the signing of Wallacott and the captaincy situation and instead of fighting back and showing some grit he’s withering away.
Wallacott should come in now. Charlton supporting relatives have said he’s a very good keeper so now is the time for LJ to get him in and for him to show it.

I thought him struggling was evident in the first half of last season as well.

The fact he started last night is unbelievable. He’s the worst goalie we’ve had in nearly 20 years.

I’d said the other day I was concerned we were going to persist with him. Surely he has to be dropped now. He shouldn’t play for Hibs again.

SHODAN
28-07-2023, 08:08 AM
Honestly up there with Zibi now as one of the worst Hibs keepers I've seen.

Sorry mate. Time's up.

Jones28
28-07-2023, 08:14 AM
Honestly up there with Zibi now as one of the worst Hibs keepers I've seen.

Sorry mate. Time's up.

Hate to say it but other than maybe 8-10 games at the start of last season I think so too.

Actually tbf I don't remember Zibi spilling shots the way Marshall seems to manage.

He couldn't set up a wall to save himself though.

He just isn't as mobile as he needs to be.

It makes John Burridges career longevity seems even more impressive.

Just looked at Budgies wiki page, he was at 7 different clubs in the 1996 season, that must be some sort of record.

He's here!
28-07-2023, 08:16 AM
It's age. That's all. He's slow now, takes a year to get down and even longer to get back up

When he arrived last season he got a lot of praise for his play and for the steadying experience he brought to the team. The decline seems very rapid though. I can't claim to have followed his career closely but is he not maybe just a keeper who has always been capable of a gaffe? Think he was made to look a bit daft in a Scotland game a couple of years ago. 38 is old for most footballers but not so much for a goalkeeper who keeps themselves in shape. Is Craig Gordon not over 40 now? Budgie was definitely playing in his 40s. Zoff and Buffon too.

overdrive
28-07-2023, 08:32 AM
Hate to say it but other than maybe 8-10 games at the start of last season I think so too.

Actually tbf I don't remember Zibi spilling shots the way Marshall seems to manage.

He couldn't set up a wall to save himself though.

He just isn't as mobile as he needs to be.

It makes John Burridges career longevity seems even more impressive.

Just looked at Budgies wiki page, he was at 7 different clubs in the 1996 season, that must be some sort of record.

At least Zibi was OK outside of the errors - the errors were usually in high profile games.

Marshall can’t even seem to do the basics right anymore. His kicking which was his saving grace after his few OK games last year has even gone massively down hill.

Criswell
29-07-2023, 01:04 AM
At least Zibi was OK outside of the errors - the errors were usually in high profile games.

Marshall can’t even seem to do the basics right anymore. His kicking which was his saving grace after his few OK games last year has even gone massively down hill.
Not sure any goalkeeper has kept his place because his kicking and distribution was OK

HIBS NUTS
29-07-2023, 05:46 AM
At least Zibi was OK outside of the errors - the errors were usually in high profile games.

Marshall can’t even seem to do the basics right anymore. His kicking which was his saving grace after his few OK games last year has even gone massively down hill.

Let’s not rewrite history, Zibi was horrendous, we had a terrible run of bad goalkeepers at that time, even worse than Marshall.
Marshall needs replaced , but i hope his replacement is better than Zibi.

Paulie Walnuts
29-07-2023, 06:40 AM
Let’s not rewrite history, Zibi was horrendous, we had a terrible run of bad goalkeepers at that time, even worse than Marshall.
Marshall needs replaced , but i hope his replacement is better than Zibi.

Genuinely not sure Zibi was any worse. I’ll give you Simon Brown but I’m not sure Zibi was any worse than Marshall has been. He certainly didn’t make as many mistakes.

HIBS NUTS
29-07-2023, 06:50 AM
Genuinely not sure Zibi was any worse. I’ll give you Simon Brown but I’m not sure Zibi was any worse than Marshall has been. He certainly didn’t make as many mistakes.

My spelling is terrible.😄
But the jailed iceland guy was worse
The young Belgium goalkeeper was absolutely horrendous
I think Zibi was worse.
What they all had in common, is i can’t spell their names. 😄

neil7908
29-07-2023, 06:55 AM
I just find it baffling that the manager played Marshall, when we could all see by the end of last season that he was done.

It's not Marshall's fault - it's the manager. If Marshall was a young lad I could just about understand as it would be part of his growth and development.

It does seem like LJ has made the same error as with the LC last season.

We need to put on a real performance in the second leg to get morale back. Marshall should be nowhere near the squad again, not even the bench. Would rather we give Boruc a go.

Paulie Walnuts
29-07-2023, 06:59 AM
My spelling is terrible.😄
But the jailed iceland guy was worse
The young Belgium goalkeeper was absolutely horrendous
I think Zibi was worse.
What they all had in common, is i can’t spell their names. 😄

Gottskalksson :greengrin he was a wee bit before my time to properly remember.

Ma-Kalambay was crap as well but I genuinely don’t think he was as bad as Marshall.

Bobo
29-07-2023, 07:08 AM
Ma-Kalambay and Tony Caig are 2 of the worst "goalkeepers" to have played for Hibs.

Ma-Ka's performance v Aberdeen at Easter Road always sticks in my mind 😱

Gmack7
29-07-2023, 07:11 AM
Marshalls career is on the slide and is no longer good enough for hibs, that is clear.
To compare him with Zibi, Makalamby and Gottslalkson is just ludicrous

Paulie Walnuts
29-07-2023, 07:14 AM
Marshalls career is on the slide and is no longer good enough for hibs, that is clear.
To compare him with Zibi, Makalamby and Gottslalkson is just ludicrous

I’m not sure it is. Marshall made so many mistakes over the course of 12 months, way more than Zibi made that’s for sure. Ma-Kalambay I’ve done an alright job of wiping a lot of him from my memory tbh and Gottskalksson is before my time.

In terms of Zibi though I genuinely think he’s been worse.

Dmas
29-07-2023, 07:17 AM
My spelling is terrible.😄
But the jailed iceland guy was worse
The young Belgium goalkeeper was absolutely horrendous
I think Zibi was worse.
What they all had in common, is i can’t spell their names. 😄

Graeme smith and mark brown where also worse, Marsh is on the slide for sure but he’s a long way off making top 5 worst hibs goalkeepers

Allant1981
29-07-2023, 07:25 AM
Graeme smith and mark brown where also worse, Marsh is on the slide for sure but he’s a long way off making top 5 worst hibs goalkeepers

Yip, those suggesting he is the worst we have had for 20 years really can't have been watching us for that long, we have had some seriously crap keepers in the last 20 years

Big_Franck
29-07-2023, 07:59 AM
Yip, those suggesting he is the worst we have had for 20 years really can't have been watching us for that long, we have had some seriously crap keepers in the last 20 years

I think Marshall is getting there. He's had a large number of clangers in one year, but seems to get away without too much stick for some reason.

His mistake the other day against Inter, his one at Celtic park and the goal he conceded against Rangers at Easter Road from Tavernier's free kick near the goal line are right up there among the worst Hibs goalkeeping mistakes I can remember (with special mention to Simon Brown). If he'd had the misfortune to make those mistakes in derbies like Zibi did, I think Marshall would be thought of quite differently.

HIBS NUTS
29-07-2023, 08:20 AM
Marshall needs dropped, but as was said there has been much worse.
Thankfully we have some good spellers amongst us.👍🏻

Paulie Walnuts
29-07-2023, 08:24 AM
I think Marshall is getting there. He's had a large number of clangers in one year, but seems to get away without too much stick for some reason.

His mistake the other day against Inter, his one at Celtic park and the goal he conceded against Rangers at Easter Road from Tavernier's free kick near the goal line are right up there among the worst Hibs goalkeeping mistakes I can remember (with special mention to Simon Brown). If he'd had the misfortune to make those mistakes in derbies like Zibi did, I think Marshall would be thought of quite differently.

:agree:

The difference with guys like Graeme Smith is that they didn’t play all that many games. Marshall played every single minute of every single game last season pretty much. I know from my point of view when I say he’s the worst we’ve had in about 20 years in more talking about guys that actually played regularly, there’s no doubting he’s better than guys like David Grof etc but they hardly count.

Smartie
29-07-2023, 08:25 AM
Marshall started fine but if you take the howlers alongside the big saves, distribution from feet and hand etc over the last 20 games or so, he hasn’t got a leg to stand on - his current form (and trajectory) put him up there with our very worst, quite possibly worse.

Dmas
29-07-2023, 10:00 AM
Marshall started fine but if you take the howlers alongside the big saves, distribution from feet and hand etc over the last 20 games or so, he hasn’t got a leg to stand on - his current form (and trajectory) put him up there with our very worst, quite possibly worse.

At the start of last season we where all falling over ourselves with the difference in distribution between him and Macey, he’s made a few costly mistakes which have effected his confidence and he’s then tried to keep it simple IMO, he needs dropped which we can all agree on but by no means does David Marshall have my heart beating as fast as it did when the ball went anywhere near Oli,Zibi,Brown, macalamby it was alarm bells at every turn, eyes closed whilst defending corner kicks to lump him in with that company is crazy

Dmas
29-07-2023, 10:05 AM
:agree:

The difference with guys like Graeme Smith is that they didn’t play all that many games. Marshall played every single minute of every single game last season pretty much. I know from my point of view when I say he’s the worst we’ve had in about 20 years in more talking about guys that actually played regularly, there’s no doubting he’s better than guys like David Grof etc but they hardly count.

Cause these guys where so bad we couldn’t keep them means they should be discounted in a worst goalkeeper in last 20yrs conversation, Graeme Smith was awful, a hologram of a goalie

Paulie Walnuts
29-07-2023, 12:48 PM
Cause these guys where so bad we couldn’t keep them means they should be discounted in a worst goalkeeper in last 20yrs conversation, Graeme Smith was awful, a hologram of a goalie

No, you’re probably right. I was just more thinking of the guys we’ve had that played every week - Rocky, Oxley, Williams, McNeil etc. If we’re diving deeper into it and including guys that didn’t play all that often then Marshall isn’t the worst.

SHODAN
29-07-2023, 12:54 PM
I can't remember a Hibs keeper making as many mistakes overall as Marshall.

Zibi? Pretty much all in derbies.

Ma-Kalambay? Terrible positioning sense, and his errors were beyond the scope of reality, but still didn't make as many.

Graeme Smith? Aside from the worst goalkeeping performance I've ever seen in my life (6-6), generally passable.

Simon Brown? Again, mistakes were limited to a few games only.

The others got very few games but were promptly released once it became apparent they weren't up to it.

Carheenlea
29-07-2023, 01:04 PM
No one will be more frustrated and angry with some of the errors than Marshall himself.

An excellent keeper with many international caps to his name, but just not hitting the same levels of athleticism and reliability that enabled him to enjoy a great career.

At 38 he’s in the twilight of that career and probably might have to accept that he’s not going to be 1st choice at Hibs this season. A good guy to have around the other keepers with his experience and knowledge of the position.

Paul1642
29-07-2023, 01:45 PM
I can't remember a Hibs keeper making as many mistakes overall as Marshall.

Zibi? Pretty much all in derbies.

Ma-Kalambay? Terrible positioning sense, and his errors were beyond the scope of reality, but still didn't make as many.

Graeme Smith? Aside from the worst goalkeeping performance I've ever seen in my life (6-6), generally passable.

Simon Brown? Again, mistakes were limited to a few games only.

The others got very few games but were promptly released once it became apparent they weren't up to it.

I think your remember the Zibi / Brown era more fondly than me. I seem to remember one of them fumbling the ball into our net ever other game 😂

Marshall isn’t great and I want Wollacot to be given a shot as our number 1 but I would have killed to swap current ability Marshall into our Mowbray team.

Viva_Palmeiras
29-07-2023, 01:52 PM
Michty me folks.

Rumble de Thump
29-07-2023, 01:55 PM
I expect he'll retire at the end of the season. He just doesn't seem to be as sharp and as focused as he used to be. He'll probably be disappointed with some of the mistakes he's been making. He's had a great career and is a bit if a Scotland legend. He seems like a good guy. Maybe coaching is the next step for him.

Viva_Palmeiras
29-07-2023, 02:13 PM
Michty me folks.

Allant1981
29-07-2023, 03:39 PM
No, you’re probably right. I was just more thinking of the guys we’ve had that played every week - Rocky, Oxley, Williams, McNeil etc. If we’re diving deeper into it and including guys that didn’t play all that often then Marshall isn’t the worst.

Oxley wasn't very good, mcneil hardly played for the club, only had about 30 appearances for hibs

List of keepers I've seen that were not as good as Marshall despite him not playing as well, appreciate not everyone will agree, there may actually be others than I've forgot about but these are the ones I remember that weren't very good
Zibi malkowski
Oli Gottskalksson
Graeme Smith
Simon brown
Tony Craig
Makalamby
Graham stack
Mark brown
Sean murdoch(didn't really play that much)
Ross laidlaw

HIBS NUTS
29-07-2023, 03:53 PM
Oxley wasn't very good, mcneil hardly played for the club, only had about 30 appearances for hibs

List of keepers I've seen that were not as good as Marshall despite him not playing as well, appreciate not everyone will agree, there may actually be others than I've forgot about but these are the ones I remember that weren't very good
Zibi malkowski
Oli Gottskalksson
Graeme Smith
Simon brown
Tony Craig
Makalamby
Graham stack
Mark brown
Sean murdoch(didn't really play that much)
Ross laidlaw

The next derby game after the 7-0 against hearts, herriot got injured, we got a an on loan emergency goalkeeper from Airdrie, for 3 games , i think he let in 15 goals in the 3 games.
He was murder .😄

eastmainsmsh
29-07-2023, 03:55 PM
Is wollacot any better ?

A Hi-Bee
29-07-2023, 03:57 PM
Cause these guys where so bad we couldn’t keep them means they should be discounted in a worst goalkeeper in last 20yrs conversation, Graeme Smith was awful, a hologram of a goalie

Smith was the worst, blatant that he was a jambo, or had something to gain from that game.
:greengrin

scoopyboy
29-07-2023, 04:04 PM
The next derby game after the 7-0 against hearts, herriot got injured, we got a an on loan emergency goalkeeper from Airdrie, for 3 games , i think he let in 15 goals in the 3 games.
He was murder .😄

Roddy McKenzie?

Paulie Walnuts
29-07-2023, 04:07 PM
Oxley wasn't very good, mcneil hardly played for the club, only had about 30 appearances for hibs

List of keepers I've seen that were not as good as Marshall despite him not playing as well, appreciate not everyone will agree, there may actually be others than I've forgot about but these are the ones I remember that weren't very good
Zibi malkowski
Oli Gottskalksson
Graeme Smith
Simon brown
Tony Craig
Makalamby
Graham stack
Mark brown
Sean murdoch(didn't really play that much)
Ross laidlaw

Stack, Brown and Laidlaw were better imo. Ma-Kalambay I’ve managed to generally forget about somehow.

Allant1981
29-07-2023, 04:09 PM
Stack, Brown and Laidlaw were better imo. Ma-Kalambay I’ve managed to generally forget about somehow.

Each to their own, Graham stack wasn't that good at all, both browns were rubbish imo

ekhibee
29-07-2023, 04:18 PM
Oxley wasn't very good, mcneil hardly played for the club, only had about 30 appearances for hibs

List of keepers I've seen that were not as good as Marshall despite him not playing as well, appreciate not everyone will agree, there may actually be others than I've forgot about but these are the ones I remember that weren't very good
Zibi malkowski
Oli Gottskalksson
Graeme Smith
Simon brown
Tony Craig
Makalamby
Graham stack
Mark brown
Sean murdoch(didn't really play that much)
Ross laidlaw

I agree with all your selections apart from Laidlaw, he had a poor game in a European tie, can't remember who, but before that I thought he was okay for a young keeper just coming into the first team. He's done no bad at RC as well. Agree with all the other ones though. For me Simon Brown was just about the worst IMO.

Dashing Bob S
29-07-2023, 04:50 PM
I agree with all your selections apart from Laidlaw, he had a poor game in a European tie, can't remember who, but before that I thought he was okay for a young keeper just coming into the first team. He's done no bad at RC as well. Agree with all the other ones though. For me Simon Brown was just about the worst IMO.

I agree. Zibi let us down in big games but Clown was consistently bad.

GreenCastle
29-07-2023, 04:57 PM
How did Wollacott play today ?

Allant1981
29-07-2023, 05:13 PM
I agree with all your selections apart from Laidlaw, he had a poor game in a European tie, can't remember who, but before that I thought he was okay for a young keeper just coming into the first team. He's done no bad at RC as well. Agree with all the other ones though. For me Simon Brown was just about the worst IMO.

Laidlaw was steady enough, just not at the standard we needed

hibeg
29-07-2023, 06:06 PM
The next derby game after the 7-0 against hearts, herriot got injured, we got a an on loan emergency goalkeeper from Airdrie, for 3 games , i think he let in 15 goals in the 3 games.
He was murder .😄

Don’t think he was on loan but I suspect you are thinking about Roddy McKenzie !

.Sean.
29-07-2023, 06:09 PM
Don’t think he was on loan but I suspect you are thinking about Roddy McKenzie !
Was he related to the Roddy Mackenzie that played for Hearts?

hibeg
29-07-2023, 06:18 PM
Was he related to the Roddy Mackenzie that played for Hearts?
Don’t think so. ours was actually a good keeper, Northern Irish internationalist I think

Hiber-nation
29-07-2023, 06:21 PM
Don’t think so. ours was actually a good keeper, Northern Irish internationalist I think

One of the worst we ever signed. Who can forget the 1-4 at tynie.

HIBS NUTS
29-07-2023, 06:26 PM
Was he related to the Roddy Mackenzie that played for Hearts?

AYE Roddy mckenzie actually played 7 times for hibs
the 3 i remember i think
4-1 defeat hearts
5-0 defeat celtic
and lost 6
All within a week.
Now that’s PISH.
and he was playing with a good team. 😄

BSEJVT
30-07-2023, 08:19 AM
Long time ago but I think I remember him being terrible away to Raith Rovers also?

HFCbingo
31-07-2023, 06:02 PM
Surely there's no chance he's starting this week? Thoughts?

MrRobot
31-07-2023, 06:37 PM
Surely there's no chance he's starting this week? Thoughts?

If we are to have a serious chance of turning this around then he simply can’t start; we cannot rely on him.

Hibees1973
31-07-2023, 06:40 PM
Surely there's no chance he's starting this week? Thoughts?

My money is on him starting.

Libby Hibby
31-07-2023, 08:16 PM
I think he’ll start

B.H.F.C
31-07-2023, 08:19 PM
I have a feeling he’ll still be in the team and, if he does, I’ll really be wondering why we bothered signing Wollacott.

Hope I’m wrong.

ancient hibee
31-07-2023, 08:50 PM
In the few Blackpool highlights I was perturbed to see Wollocatt try to punch everything. I hope that’s not standard for him.If it is we’ll lose a lot of goals as the ball goes everywhere while he’s on his backside.

Paulie Walnuts
31-07-2023, 09:14 PM
I said a week or so ago that I had a bad feeling we’d let Marshall keep the gloves. I actually still fancy he’ll keep them on Thursday incredibly and if he manages to get through the game with no howlers he’ll start the league campaign as well.

JimBHibees
01-08-2023, 07:52 AM
I said a week or so ago that I had a bad feeling we’d let Marshall keep the gloves. I actually still fancy he’ll keep them on Thursday incredibly and if he manages to get through the game with no howlers he’ll start the league campaign as well.

I think you may be right.

WeeRussell
01-08-2023, 09:28 AM
If we are to have a serious chance of turning this around then he simply can’t start; we cannot rely on him.

Should be able to start me in goals and still have a serious chance of turning this around.

He probably will start. Hopefully comes out this week unscathed and with regained confidence… especially if he is going to have the gloves going into the first few games of the season.

Pretty Boy
01-08-2023, 09:35 AM
In the few Blackpool highlights I was perturbed to see Wollocatt try to punch everything. I hope that’s not standard for him.If it is we’ll lose a lot of goals as the ball goes everywhere while he’s on his backside.

I only recall him coming and punching the ball twice, both times under pressure and it seemed the smart choice to me on both occasions. I'd rather that than a keeper come, try to catch it and drop the ball in the danger area.

I also thought he was comfortable with the ball at his feet. He looked happy holding it under pressure and never look hurried even when being closed down, that's a good sign for me.

Hard to judge him on 80+ minutes of a friendly but I didn't see anything that unduly concerned me.

LaMotta
01-08-2023, 09:36 AM
I said a week or so ago that I had a bad feeling we’d let Marshall keep the gloves. I actually still fancy he’ll keep them on Thursday incredibly and if he manages to get through the game with no howlers he’ll start the league campaign as well.


Should be able to start me in goals and still have a serious chance of turning this around.

He probably will start. Hopefully comes out this week unscathed and with regained confidence… especially if he is going to have the gloves going into the first few games of the season.

If Marshall does start then its a worrying sign as to what the management team thinks about Wollacott.

Dalianwanda
01-08-2023, 09:40 AM
If Marshall does start then its a worrying sign as to what the management team thinks about Wollacott.

But we know he holds Wollacott in high regard as hes played for him previously & signed him again for us

Callum_62
01-08-2023, 09:50 AM
But we know he holds Wollacott in high regard as hes played for him previously & signed him again for usHe did make an interesting comment about settling in recently

I thought that might mean he will take over as number 1 soon

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blackpoolhibs
01-08-2023, 10:08 AM
I'd be very surprised if Marshall starts the season in goal for us, the manager saw the same as we all did last season, with mistake after mistake resulting in some awful goals conceded.

And then in the first meaningful game he did that in Andorra, what manager can continue to ignore these signs?

Paulie Walnuts
01-08-2023, 10:27 AM
I'd be very surprised if Marshall starts the season in goal for us, the manager saw the same as we all did last season, with mistake after mistake resulting in some awful goals conceded.

And then in the first meaningful game he did that in Andorra, what manager can continue to ignore these signs?

The one who has already showing himself to be more than happy to continue to ignore the signs? :greengrin

HUTCHYHIBBY
01-08-2023, 10:36 AM
what manager can continue to ignore these signs?

The lassie from Ace of Base didnae! 😁

LaMotta
01-08-2023, 11:26 AM
But we know he holds Wollacott in high regard as hes played for him previously & signed him again for us

If he doesnt start him on Thursday then he can't hold him in that high regard currently for whatever reason.