Aberdeen to reduce ticket allocations for away fans?

[04Sauzee]

Another club possiblly reducing the allocation of tickets for away fans



Aberdeen to slash away allocations leaving Premiership fans in scramble to land as few as 300 tickets

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[Nakedmanoncrack]

Even more empty seats then.

[Stokesy's on fire]

Aberdeen one of the most dead grounds in the uk i doubt they will reduce away seating considering they have a very poor home crowd

[Keith_M]

Their average attendance last season was ~15k.

Why would they want to reduce the number of visiting fans? :confused:

[BoomtownHibees]

Don’t think it’s for all teams

[DH1875]

Why?

[BoomtownHibees]

Why?

Think they want to reciprocate what teams are doing to them

[Torto7]

Pure massive like the Jambos. Pathetic from the sheep but I wouldn't expect anything less of their owner.

[BoomtownHibees]

Pure massive like the Jambos. Pathetic from the sheep but I wouldn't expect anything less of their owner.

It’s not pathetic if they are only looking at doing it to teams who are doing it to them

[Jones28]

Bizarre decision.

I'd find it perplexing if we started doing that.

[California-Hibs]

They have lower average home attendances than us…..

[Jones28]

It’s not pathetic if they are only looking at doing it to teams who are doing it to them

It is when you have empty seats. It's completely nonsensical.

[BoomtownHibees]

It is when you have empty seats. It's completely nonsensical.

They’re obviously looking to fill it with home supporters and want to mirror what the likes of Hearts have done to them

[Alex Trager]

It is when you have empty seats. It's completely nonsensical.

Maybe want to give themselves a competitive edge whilst foregoing the financial benefit?

[HIBS NUTS]

They’re obviously looking to fill it with home supporters and want to mirror what the likes of Hearts have done to them

The worst away end i’ve ever been in, and view.
I doubt any home fans would put up with these seats.

[Since452]

Are they trying to bankrupt themselves?

[Jones28]

They’re obviously looking to fill it with home supporters and want to mirror what the likes of Hearts have done to them

Hearts have a waiting list. It makes sense for them to do it. This is the tit-for-tat ***** that has seen Old Firm games reduce their ticket allocations to zero.

[Jones28]

Maybe want to give themselves a competitive edge whilst foregoing the financial benefit?

How? How does having fewer away fans give you a competitive edge in your own stadium when you'll have the same number of home fans?

[Alex Trager]

How? How does having fewer away fans give you a competitive edge in your own stadium when you'll have the same number of home fans?

The home fans will be bigger in percentage wise of the total in the ground?

[DIXIHIBS]

It is when you have empty seats. It's completely nonsensical.

So if hertz reduced our allocation like they have done to evryone else, you would be happy if Hibs gave them the full stand in case we couldnt sell it ourselves? I think Aberdeen are quite right on this one even if the loose some money on it.

[Glory Lurker]

They are a right bunch of dafties. As deluded as that bunch we share this city with.

[Rick Rude]

If they can afford any financial hit then good on them. Would love Hibs to be in a position to do the same and only offer Celtic/Rangers the same tickets (or even better percentage of the ground) they offer us.

[Tyler Durden]

I take it nobody read the link then

[04Sauzee]

I take it nobody read the link then

My original post did say possibly with the link. Couldn't give every eventuality in my post 😁

[MelbourneHibees]

Very bizarre that Aberdeen appear to be taking a personal insult against teams that are able to sell tickets to their own fans. Are they seriously going to only give the OF what they get at Parkhead/Ibrox?

[Carheenlea]

Hearts will be delighted as a reciprocal arrangement will mean small allocations for the “big 3”.

What a boost for the ego of a club that already has an inflated sense of importance.

Aberdeen are straying into the same ballpark too. They’ll look a bit daft when they sheepishly reallocate full stands to visitors when the demand drops from their own fans.

[B.H.F.C]

I get the whole looking after your own fans thing, but I still think there has to be reasonable provision made for away fans as well.

There is no way that Aberdeen will be selling every seat with the exception of 300 to their own fans week in, week out. And I don’t think it’ll come to that anyway.

It all has the potential to end up tit for tat and they’ll end up with fans who have always travelled to away games locked out as a result when they’re on the road.

We’re Aberdeen’s second home game so be interesting to see what happens here.

[MelbourneHibees]

I get the whole looking after your own fans thing, but I still think there has to be reasonable provision made for away fans as well.

There is no way that Aberdeen will be selling every seat with the exception of 300 to their own fans week in, week out. And I don’t think it’ll come to that anyway.

It all has the potential to end up tit for tat and they’ll end up with fans who have always travelled to away games locked out as a result when they’re on the road.

We’re Aberdeen’s second home game so be interesting to see what happens here.
The article reads as reciprocal. Which means they'll match whatever other teams offer them. To my knowlwdge we arent planning on reducing their away numbers so they shouldnt reduce ours.

[weecounty hibby]

Kilmarnock released a report in the last couple of weeks that showed that they didn't lose financially by reducing the bigot twins allocation. Granted they still give them a full away stand but that is 50% less than they used to give them. It can be done and I'd like to see Hibs doing it as well

[Carheenlea]

When it comes to seats in that area of the ground, the priority should perhaps be on fixing the array of bent and broken seats and repair the crumbling terracing they’re half bolted onto ahead of deciding which supporters are going to be unfortunate enough to have to populate it.

[LunasBoots]

It's something as a whole needs sorted by the supposed leaders of the game up here, it's just going to become more and more silly.

[Glory Lurker]

When it comes to seats in that area of the ground, the priority should perhaps be on fixing the array of bent and broken seats and repair the crumbling terracing they’re half bolted onto ahead of deciding which supporters are going to be unfortunate enough to have to populate it.

Well said. If anything, away fans should be boycotting the place. So many clubs have had to cut their cloth over the years to provide a modern stadium worthy of away fans paying to get in but they've just rammed us into the same pigsty they did in the 80s.

[1van Sprou7e]

Aberdeen one of the most dead grounds in the uk i doubt they will reduce away seating considering they have a very poor home crowd

Aberdeen have a poor home record? Since when

[Hibbyradge]

Aberdeen have a poor home record? Since when

He said "home crowd" not "record".

[Jones28]

So if hertz reduced our allocation like they have done to evryone else, you would be happy if Hibs gave them the full stand in case we couldnt sell it ourselves? I think Aberdeen are quite right on this one even if the loose some money on it.

Irrelevant, cos they haven’t, because the two clubs respect fans over pettiness and bull**** like this that detracts from the game.

[Jones28]

The home fans will be bigger in percentage wise of the total in the ground?

And the players will both notice that and get a lift from it? I’ve never heard a player come out and say the away fans being so few in number gave them a lift.

[Tyler Durden]

They are removing the fence so that they can be flexible around the away allocation. It also will help to house their fans in better seats.

In practice it probably means that when Livi, Ross County, Killie visit they will have a reduced allocation. Aberdeen then sell tickets to their own fans in the better seats. And they can increase their catering offering to improve the fan’s experience. More kiosks basically.

There is a section on their statement about having discussions with some teams. No real threat to Hearts or any other team there. As usual the Record totally blow it out of proportion for clicks.

[BoomtownHibees]

They are removing the fence so that they can be flexible around the away allocation. It also will help to house their fans in better seats.

In practice it probably means that when Livi, Ross County, Killie visit they will have a reduced allocation. Aberdeen then sell tickets to their own fans in the better seats. And they can increase their catering offering to improve the fan’s experience. More kiosks basically.

There is a section on their statement about having discussions with some teams. No real threat to Hearts or any other team there. As usual the Record totally blow it out of proportion for clicks.

What better seats and extra kiosks would the home fans be getting?

[Tyler Durden]

What better seats and extra kiosks would the home fans be getting?

You’re welcome 👍🏻

SOUTH STAND – SEGREGATION FENCE
In addition, subject to final approval from the local authority, we intend to make some structural changes to the South Stand. These modifications will allow AFC to have a more bespoke offering when it comes to setting the number of away tickets it offers to fellow SPFL clubs – anything between the current 1,770 down to 300, with the stated desire of pushing towards approximately 1,000 more Dons fans in the South Stand, in Section R specifically, for matches where it is appropriate. This would also allow our own walk-up supporters, around 2,000 per game, access to better seats and under cover from the open-to-the-elements Section Y.
This work will commence immediately following approval and will eventually result in the removal of the fence between the traditional home and away sections, the installation of additional new toilets and catering facilities at the rear of the visitor’s section and the re-routing of some entry and exit ways for home and away fans. It is anticipated this work will be complete by mid-September.

AWAY ALLOCATIONS
Whilst we hope the changes above will help continue the upwards trajectory of our home attendances and drive-up revenues, it is also our intention to hold discussions with some of our SPFL Premiership colleagues about reciprocal allocations in hope of a fair and equitable number for our brilliant away supporters. The outcome of that will play one part in the away allocations we set at Pittodrie going forward.
“We are delighted to be able to offer even more season tickets in the Red Shed ahead of the 2023/24 season,” Chief Executive Alan Burrows said.
“There has been a huge amount of excellent work undertaken by AFC staff over the last few years on engaging with supporters and making matchdays at Pittodrie more noisy and more colourful and improving the atmosphere. We will continue to engage with all stakeholders to try and build on that, whilst maintaining a safe and secure environment for everyone.
“Our plans for the South Stand are very much an extension of that desire. We want even more Aberdeen fans coming to Pittodrie in the best seats, cheering the team on. The fence has not only proved a visible hindrance for fans in that area, but it has also not allowed us any flexibility to try and maximise attendances.
“This work will also have the added benefit of increasing the catering provisions in the South Stand by 25%, which we hope will further reduce queues and waiting times in that area for specific games.”

[BoomtownHibees]

You’re welcome 👍🏻

SOUTH STAND – SEGREGATION FENCE
In addition, subject to final approval from the local authority, we intend to make some structural changes to the South Stand. These modifications will allow AFC to have a more bespoke offering when it comes to setting the number of away tickets it offers to fellow SPFL clubs – anything between the current 1,770 down to 300, with the stated desire of pushing towards approximately 1,000 more Dons fans in the South Stand, in Section R specifically, for matches where it is appropriate. This would also allow our own walk-up supporters, around 2,000 per game, access to better seats and under cover from the open-to-the-elements Section Y.
This work will commence immediately following approval and will eventually result in the removal of the fence between the traditional home and away sections, the installation of additional new toilets and catering facilities at the rear of the visitor’s section and the re-routing of some entry and exit ways for home and away fans. It is anticipated this work will be complete by mid-September.

AWAY ALLOCATIONS
Whilst we hope the changes above will help continue the upwards trajectory of our home attendances and drive-up revenues, it is also our intention to hold discussions with some of our SPFL Premiership colleagues about reciprocal allocations in hope of a fair and equitable number for our brilliant away supporters. The outcome of that will play one part in the away allocations we set at Pittodrie going forward.
“We are delighted to be able to offer even more season tickets in the Red Shed ahead of the 2023/24 season,” Chief Executive Alan Burrows said.
“There has been a huge amount of excellent work undertaken by AFC staff over the last few years on engaging with supporters and making matchdays at Pittodrie more noisy and more colourful and improving the atmosphere. We will continue to engage with all stakeholders to try and build on that, whilst maintaining a safe and secure environment for everyone.
“Our plans for the South Stand are very much an extension of that desire. We want even more Aberdeen fans coming to Pittodrie in the best seats, cheering the team on. The fence has not only proved a visible hindrance for fans in that area, but it has also not allowed us any flexibility to try and maximise attendances.
“This work will also have the added benefit of increasing the catering provisions in the South Stand by 25%, which we hope will further reduce queues and waiting times in that area for specific games.”

Cheers

[Glory Lurker]

"best seats". "open-to-the-elements Section Y" (away fans still getting the open-to-the-elemnts down our end). Scenes. Were they no building a new super stadium off the by-pass, or maybe as part of a redevelopment of the seafront?

[ben johnson]

The worst away end i’ve ever been in, and view.
I doubt any home fans would put up with these seats.

Runs a close second to Parkhead imo
Get what you’re saying though it’s pretty brutal trying to see what’s going on down the left hand side. Wish we would cut the Tic and the Buns. I for one would gladly pay extra in my season ticket to make it so.

[HIBS NUTS]

Runs a close second to Parkhead imo
Get what you’re saying though it’s pretty brutal trying to see what’s going on down the left hand side. Wish we would cut the Tic and the Buns. I for one would gladly pay extra in my season ticket to make it so.

Celtics horrific away end, is possibly only slightly better, as it’s mostly protected by a roof.
The wind and rain coming in sideways off the north sea, and crumbling terracing
swing it in aberdeens favour.
Not forgetting the toilets, they are like something from trainspotting

[PHeffernan]

They are removing the fence so that they can be flexible around the away allocation. It also will help to house their fans in better seats.

In practice it probably means that when Livi, Ross County, Killie visit they will have a reduced allocation. Aberdeen then sell tickets to their own fans in the better seats. And they can increase their catering offering to improve the fan’s experience. More kiosks basically.

There is a section on their statement about having discussions with some teams. No real threat to Hearts or any other team there. As usual the Record totally blow it out of proportion for clicks.

I'm pleased at least one person on here can read and comprehend what is being said in the article rather than only taking in the headline. Nae wonder brexit happened.
The headline as ever is a fictional spin applied by the tabloid journalist after he has put what Alan Burrows has said through the usual Old Firm Prism.

The headline is
"Aberdeen FC to slash away allocations leaving Celtic and Rangers fans to land as few as 300 tickets"
That is a hell of a jump from what was actually said by Aberdeen CEO Alan Burrows


What is the real news?
I have rewritten the article as follows to take out The Record spin and the Burrows bull****


Aberdeen have announced plans to remove the current fixed division fence between home and away supporters in the South Stand

Aberdeen chief executive Alan Burrows said.
"The fence has not only proved a visible hindrance for fans in that area, but does not allow us any flexibility with ticket allocations.

This work will also have the added benefit of increasing the catering provisions in the South Stand by 25%, which we hope will further reduce queues and waiting times.

It is also our intention to hold discussions with Celtic, Rangers and Hearts colleagues about reciprocal ticket allocations in the hope of a fair and equitable number for our away supporters.
The outcome of those discussions will play a part in the away allocations we set for those clubs supporters at Pittodrie going forward”

[Carheenlea]

The fence coming down has to be a positive. I think they know they are on a sticky wicket there by charging fans full price for restricted view seats (which is every seat in away end).

Downside will be if visiting fans are shunted down into the uncovered section open to elements.

[Glory Lurker]

Uncovered seating? Only one club in the top flight has had that since 1998 (hedging my bets on when Celtc removed the temp seating in north stand).

Stand free, though.

Get them in the sea.

[Steven79]

The fence coming down has to be a positive. I think they know they are on a sticky wicket there by charging fans full price for restricted view seats (which is every seat in away end).

Downside will be if visiting fans are shunted down into the uncovered section open to elements.

Surely the home fans get the same crap view and they actually pay for season tickets in it.

Probably the worst ground in the league for home and away fans in the league.

[Since452]

Pittodrie is a hovel. About time they built a new stadium or upgraded that dump instead of *****ing money on players wages. It's 2023 and their stadium belongs in the 90's which is at least more recent than the decade their deluded fans are stuck in.

And just to make myself clear. **** Aberdeen.

[Steven79]

Pittodrie is a hovel. About time they built a new stadium or upgraded that dump instead of *****ing money on players wages. It's 2023 and their stadium belongs in the 90's which is at least more recent than the decade their deluded fans are stuck in.

And just to make myself clear. **** Aberdeen.

Most of it belongs in the 70's.

The South Stand is a joke considering what they charge for it as if you sit down you have a crap view as it's a shallow terrace with seats bolted onto it with a roof that barely protects you from the weather.

When you consider the money they pissed away in the 90's (Paul Bernard) they really have no excuse for not having a better ground.

[davhibby]

Most of it belongs in the 70's.

The South Stand is a joke considering what they charge for it as if you sit down you have a crap view as it's a shallow terrace with seats bolted onto it with a roof that barely protects you from the weather.

When you consider the money they pissed away in the 90's (Paul Bernard) they really have no excuse for not having a better ground.

Milne deliberately ran it in to the ground so he could say they needed to move and build houses on the land. If Cormack hadn’t appeared they’d be playing at the bypass by now.

[Keith_M]

They have a bit of a cheek wanting to 'negotiate' with other clubs around the allocations for away fans.

How about negotiating with other clubs on quality of the stand they make the away fans sit in?

Maybe Hibs could offer to seat them in an uncovered corner of the stadium with a crap view of the pitch, as they do with us?

[JeMeSouviens]

All the article says for sure is that they're taking the big fence down (which is good in itself because it seriously restricts the view). So they'll be able to shift the segregation gap up and down that stand. It doesn't actually commit them to doing it.

[Hermit Crab]

Taking down the fence will make it even easier for missiles to be thrown between the fans which is a regular occurrence up there. Progress. :rolleyes:

[BoomtownHibees]

Taking down the fence will make it even easier for missiles to be thrown between the fans which is a regular occurrence up there. Progress. :rolleyes:

The fence makes no difference to that happening anyway

[Greenio]

I think this stinks.

Football matches are supposed to have home and away fans. It's part of the culture of the sport, a massive contributor to atmosphere and something that should be preserved

[Frazerbob]

I think this stinks.

Football matches are supposed to have home and away fans. It's part of the culture of the sport, a massive contributor to atmosphere and something that should be preserved


They're only talking about reducing the area they give to clubs who bring a handful of fans. Take Livi for example. They usually take less than 100 fans to Aberdeen. They don't need the full away end so will get a smaller area that will still comfortably accommodate their support, all be it with a gash view. They are not talking about reducing our allocation. There has been a hint that they may reduce those clubs who don't give them what they perceive as a fair allocation, ie Hearts and the Old Firm.

[Real Emerald]

They have a bit of a cheek wanting to 'negotiate' with other clubs around the allocations for away fans.

How about negotiating with other clubs on quality of the stand they make the away fans sit in?

Maybe Hibs could offer to seat them in an uncovered corner of the stadium with a crap view of the pitch, as they do with us?

Absolutely, their stadium is **** hole and a relic from the 70’s. Their crowds have been woeful for years but they now seem to think they’re some big force. We all should boycott their dump and see where they are a few seasons down the road. Delusional

[NAE NOOKIE]

Most of it belongs in the 70's.

The South Stand is a joke considering what they charge for it as if you sit down you have a crap view as it's a shallow terrace with seats bolted onto it with a roof that barely protects you from the weather.

When you consider the money they pissed away in the 90's (Paul Bernard) they really have no excuse for not having a better ground.

Indeed. Aberdeen have allegedly been consistently the best financed club outside of the Uglies for a long time, enabling them to make Europe consistently .... Outside of building that ridiculous monolith at the beach end they have barely done anything to the place in 40 years, while clubs like us and yes Hearts have spent multiple millions practically replacing our old stadiums, even the likes of Killie, St Mirren, Raith Rovers and Dunfermline have vastly improved their stadiums since the 80s ... clubs far poorer than Aberdeen.

At this point there's no excuse for the tip they play in.

[Hermit Crab]

Not sure this will really affect us because if Aberdeen were to give us as little as 300 tickets (unlikely), then we would do the same to them.

[Billy Whizz]

Not sure this will really affect us because if Aberdeen were to give us as little as 300 tickets (unlikely), then we would do the same to them.

We wouldn’t.

[Since452]

Indeed. Aberdeen have allegedly been consistently the best financed club outside of the Uglies for a long time, enabling them to make Europe consistently .... Outside of building that ridiculous monolith at the beach end they have barely done anything to the place in 40 years, while clubs like us and yes Hearts have spent multiple millions practically replacing our old stadiums, even the likes of Killie, St Mirren, Raith Rovers and Dunfermline have vastly improved their stadiums since the 80s ... clubs far poorer than Aberdeen.

At this point there's no excuse for the tip they play in.

:agree: They have neglected their **** tip of a stadium for years to focus on the player budget and outbid the likes of Hibs and Hearts for transfer targets while never having had over 10k season ticket sales before until now. Wasn't so long ago they were closing parts of their stadium to "improve the atmosphere" as their crowds were so low. A club i'd really enjoy seeing go in to administration or at the very least get relegated and not have league reconstruction or a lower league stadium spare them this time.

And their accents are *****.

[.Sean.]

Kilmarnock released a report in the last couple of weeks that showed that they didn't lose financially by reducing the bigot twins allocation. Granted they still give them a full away stand but that is 50% less than they used to give them. It can be done and I'd like to see Hibs doing it as well
Is there a link to this mate

[Oscar T Grouch]

Is there a link to this mate

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/best-of/23668572.celtic-rangers-fan-cuts-shows-no-loss-income-killie/#

[Glory Lurker]

Indeed. Aberdeen have allegedly been consistently the best financed club outside of the Uglies for a long time, enabling them to make Europe consistently .... Outside of building that ridiculous monolith at the beach end they have barely done anything to the place in 40 years, while clubs like us and yes Hearts have spent multiple millions practically replacing our old stadiums, even the likes of Killie, St Mirren, Raith Rovers and Dunfermline have vastly improved their stadiums since the 80s ... clubs far poorer than Aberdeen.

At this point there's no excuse for the tip they play in.

And while I couldn't stand the shower,Airdrieonians died in no small part due to funding an excellent stadium.

[Stokesy's on fire]

:agree: They have neglected their **** tip of a stadium for years to focus on the player budget and outbid the likes of Hibs and Hearts for transfer targets while never having had over 10k season ticket sales before until now. Wasn't so long ago they were closing parts of their stadium to "improve the atmosphere" as their crowds were so low. A club i'd really enjoy seeing go in to administration or at the very least get relegated and not have league reconstruction or a lower league stadium spare them this time.

And their accents are *****.


Agree i would love it if they folded

[PHeffernan]

Aberdeen have announced plans to remove the current fixed division fence between home and away supporters in the South Stand

The plain English version of what Aberdeen chief executive Alan Burrows said is:

"The fence has not only proved a visible hindrance for fans in that area, but does not allow us any flexibility with ticket allocations.

This work will also have the added benefit of increasing the catering provisions in the South Stand by 25%, which we hope will further reduce queues and waiting times.

It is also our intention to hold discussions with Celtic, Rangers and Hearts colleagues about reciprocal ticket allocations in the hope of a fair and equitable number for our away supporters.
The outcome of those discussions will play a part in the away allocations we set for those clubs supporters at Pittodrie going forward"


This all seems reasonable to me.
Why are some Hibs supporters on here so angry about it?

[Stokesy's on fire]

Aberdeen are forgetting they are a small club

[Hibernian Verse]

Aberdeen are forgetting they are a small club

It's a dangerous game to play off the back one good season

[Blaster]

I think Aberdeen are quite right. Celtic Rangers and Hearts give them crap allocations so return the favour.

We all wish we were in a position to do that to the Old Firm so why we giving Aberdeen a hard time for actually doing it??

[Stokesy's on fire]

It's a dangerous game to play off the back one good season

They had to play crowd noise to fake an atmosphere when they last played us at that horror hole. They will lose money if they cut allocations

[Since452]

It's a dangerous game to play off the back one good season

Good is debatable. Worst result in their history sandwiched between two drubbings in Edinburgh. Their new manager bounce which soon wore off got them 3rd. Just.

[Glory Lurker]

Aberdeen have announced plans to remove the current fixed division fence between home and away supporters in the South Stand

The plain English version of what Aberdeen chief executive Alan Burrows said is:

"The fence has not only proved a visible hindrance for fans in that area, but does not allow us any flexibility with ticket allocations.

This work will also have the added benefit of increasing the catering provisions in the South Stand by 25%, which we hope will further reduce queues and waiting times.

It is also our intention to hold discussions with Celtic, Rangers and Hearts colleagues about reciprocal ticket allocations in the hope of a fair and equitable number for our away supporters.
The outcome of those discussions will play a part in the away allocations we set for those clubs supporters at Pittodrie going forward"


This all seems reasonable to me.
Why are some Hibs supporters on here so angry about it?


I'm not angry about it, it sounds sensible enough and up to them.

I will never miss an opportunity though, no matter how contrived, to rant about how awful their ground is, their delusions of grandeur, how they should have been relegated in 2000, etc, etc 😄

[Tyler Durden]

I think Aberdeen are quite right. Celtic Rangers and Hearts give them crap allocations so return the favour.

We all wish we were in a position to do that to the Old Firm so why we giving Aberdeen a hard time for actually doing it??

They’re not doing that

[Billy Whizz]

They’re not doing that

They are reclaiming the side on seats next to the home end. They lose a lot of seats with the segregation in this stand
Not many away games are you afforded a side on seat. Dundee Utd and St Johnstone come to mind
Just curious to where they will put the hibs supporters, if they put Hibs fans in an uncovered area, I won’t be best pleased

[Steven79]

They are reclaiming the side on seats next to the home end. They lose a lot of seats with the segregation in this stand
Not many away games are you afforded a side on seat. Dundee Utd and St Johnstone come to mind
Just curious to where they will put the hibs supporters, if they put Hibs fans in an uncovered area, I won’t be best pleased

Means nothing when the view is so crap you can't see anything.