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twiceinathens
28-06-2023, 03:14 PM
Anyone requesting home care support assessment in West Lothian(and to be fair probably everywhere else) be vey careful if you are given an online triaged interview. Interviewer perfectly polite but obviously under financial restriction to avoid any commitments -make sure you do not underestimate any difficulties If you have for instance someone who MJGHT be able to take you shopping ONCE A WEEK means you are coping. Of course no one can expect individual service but it would seem that the approach is based not on need but finance. As far as residential care fees - and I don't mean a voluntary retirement home -are concerned they are over £1000 a week. Nowadays you have to be well off enough to regularly use private medicine or be on benefits to be a resident. If you require a nursing facility surely this should be equally available to all. Nowadays what is the point of saving? You have to gamble that you remain healthy.
The_Exile
29-06-2023, 06:34 AM
It is brutal mate and I feel for anybody that needs state help just now as it’s a complete lottery.
I myself am supposed to be entitled to a little bit of universal credit each month but they rejected my application based on income (I’m not far off minimum wage). Also having to appeal an adult disability payment, I know of people in my situation and dare I say it, less in need of it, who get it. It’s a constant battle to get any financial help at the moment and all I can say is keep fighting it, don’t give up. :aok:
AgentDaleCooper
29-06-2023, 09:52 PM
Awful stuff, really sorry to hear that from both of you. As a care worker, and having a sister with a learning disability, it makes my blood boil how social care and support has been utterly vandalised over the last 15 years.
superfurryhibby
30-06-2023, 11:11 AM
I have a good friend who works in social work in West Lothian. They are facing enormous pressures on their budget, can't recruit staff at all levels and are operating in a state of crisis.
The residential fees for local authority care home fees are linked to a national agreement and there is a contribution of £233.00/week made via Scottish Govt Free personal Care contribution (non means tested). A person's contribution thereafter will be based on their savings, whether they own a home etc. This also applies to access to nursing homes. For people who want to stay in a care facility, they will be expected to contribute towards the cost via benefits/pensions. The exceptions being if you have assets and savings above c £25,000.
In Edinburgh, the council are talking about a 30% cut in the social care budget. How they propose to achieve this, who knows.
Maybe we all need to be questioning what value we place on looking after our most vulnerable citizens .
twiceinathens
30-06-2023, 04:33 PM
I hope I made it clear that I have no criticism of the staff concerned. I fully appreciate the pressures they are operating under and the rules they are forced to follow. It is these rules that I am unhappy about.
Betty Boop
30-06-2023, 09:24 PM
Disgusting images of abuse in care homes in England and Wales, on News at ten. Makes you sick to the pit of your stomach.
AgentDaleCooper
30-06-2023, 10:23 PM
Disgusting images of abuse in care homes in England and Wales, on News at ten. Makes you sick to the pit of your stomach.
Were they private care homes?
sleeping giant
01-07-2023, 10:50 AM
Going through this at the moment with both parents currently in hospital waiting to be moved to a care home.
As they both have over 30k in savings and own their house , they will be self funding until their money runs out.
The social workers dealing with this have been disgraceful. Next to no guidance at all.
Our first choice was Cairdean House in Redford which would have cost 8k per month each and they want proof of funding for 2 years.
It's been a minefield but going to see one near Leith this week that's 6k per month each.
marinello59
01-07-2023, 11:17 AM
Going through this at the moment with both parents currently in hospital waiting to be moved to a care home.
As they both have over 30k in savings and own their house , they will be self funding until their money runs out.
The social workers dealing with this have been disgraceful. Next to no guidance at all.
Our first choice was Cairdean House in Redford which would have cost 8k per month each and they want proof of funding for 2 years.
It's been a minefield but going to see one near Leith this week that's 6k per month each.
When we compared costs when my Mother went in to a home we ended up going with what was the most expensive option. We figured the money was going to all go anyway so what difference did it make. It all went in the end, savings and proceeds of house and car sales. Main thing was that she was treated really well during her final years, that was priceless.
sleeping giant
01-07-2023, 12:19 PM
When we compared costs when my Mother went in to a home we ended up going with what was the most expensive option. We figured the money was going to all go anyway so what difference did it make. It all went in the end, savings and proceeds of house and car sales. Main thing was that she was treated really well during her final years, that was priceless.
That's the route I am going down.
It's al about their comfort in their last few years.
We don't have the financial assessment yet as waiting on financial guardianship so it's difficult to commit to the 2 year funding without knowing what's exactly there.
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