Dundee Utd

[HendoDelivered]

Pretty much all but confirmed relegated. They actually have a couple of decent players and I can see there being a bit of a fire sale there once their relegation is confirmed. Would anyone take any of their players?

I wouldn’t be against at least having a look at Levitt, McGrath (I know he’s only on loan there) and maybe Behich, who I think is a lot better than Cabraja.

[SHODAN]

Dundee have a real shot at changing the balance of power for the forseeable future now, I would imagine. Two relegations in a decade can't be good for United's finances.

[Unseen work]

United in pursuit.

Any players we could go for?

Linked with McGrath, he’s obviously on loan from Wigan but any others?

Levitt?

[Steven79]

Dundee have a real shot at changing the balance of power for the forseeable future now, I would imagine. Two relegations in a decade can't be good for United's finances.Dundee are going straight back down...

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[Vault Boy]

Just Levitt from the players they’ve got under contract, but can only imagine he’d be too expensive/have his eyes set on English football. I’d be happy with McGrath too.

I’ve always rated Sibbald, he had a really good run at Livi in the Prem a couple of years back, but he seems to have regressed a bit in struggling sides. A right thorn in our side at Falkirk.

[SaulGoodman]

Gutted for Middleton.


Enjoy the championship, prick.

[RyeSloan]

Just Levitt from the players they’ve got under contract, but can only imagine he’d be too expensive/have his eyes set on English football. I’d be happy with McGrath too.

I’ve always rated Sibbald, he had a really good run at Livi in the Prem a couple of years back, but he seems to have regressed a bit in struggling sides. A right thorn in our side at Falkirk.

Sibbald was a pain at Falkirk but said at the start of the season I’d be raging if we had signed him for our midfield. Way below the quality required and he’s helped to prove me right on that one this season for sure.

[Bobby's Cinema]

I doubt this recent failure will do much to dampen Jim Goodwins ego.

[Stokesy's on fire]

I wouldn't want us to sign any of their players at all. We must aim higher

[K-Zazu]

Off ye pop

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Surprised as I thought they had turned it round pre split but recent defeats at home to Ross County and Killie have killed them off. Would like to see Partick over either Ross County or Killie, they both play each other this weekend to avoid that play off spot.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

If I recall correctly, there were plenty on here who thought they had recruited well prior to the start of season.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Like ourselves, Aberdeen and Hearts, Dundee United shouldn't be getting relegated. It's a big club in the context of Scottish football. Just not good enough from them.

[The Harp Awakes]

Sad to see Dundee Hibernian relegated. Good club and decent supporters.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

I’d take Behich and Levitt, the rest are shambolic


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[s2hart]

Sibbald was a pain at Falkirk but said at the start of the season I’d be raging if we had signed him for our midfield. Way below the quality required and he’s helped to prove me right on that one this season for sure.

Always plays well against us like has something to prove, am I right we had him at youth level but released him? Or did my brain make that up?

[Waxy]

No thanks. I wouldnt want want any from Dundee utd at Easter rd.

[Bostonhibby]

I doubt this recent failure will do much to dampen Jim Goodwins ego.We talking failure or failures plural here?

Erse, wonder who he will blame this time?

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[J-C]

Why would we want any relegated players, it shows they're not this standard, as for Goodwin, bye ya prick, failure at St Mirren, failure at Aberdeen and now a failure at Dundee United, won't miss him one bit.

[theonlywayisup]

Dundee United's 31 points have come from the teams noted below. If my maths is correct, the values in the brackets would be the teams points total excluding results against Dundee United. Despite what many would consider has been a poor season, we'd be one missed penalty kick away from 3rd place, with one game to go. All ifs and buts, but frustrating.

0 Celtic (87)
0 The Rangers (80)
3 Aberdeen (51)
1 Hearts (46)
7 Hibernian (50)
0 St Mirren (37)
4 Motherwell
4 Livingston
3 St Johnstone
5 Kilmarnock
4 Ross County

[Iain G]

No thanks. I wouldnt want want any from Dundee utd at Easter rd.

Fletcher and McGrath would be good additions to our squad though.

[Waxy]

Fletcher and McGrath would be good additions to our squad though.

We must do better.
Wonder if caveman will end up back at Downdee utd.

[JimBHibees]

Always plays well against us like has something to prove, am I right we had him at youth level but released him? Or did my brain make that up?

Sure there was always some chat that Sibbald supported Hibs when younger. Out of their players would definitely take Fletch for a year. He has been excellent this season.

[JimBHibees]

Fletcher and McGrath would be good additions to our squad though.

Agree

[Callum_62]

Why would we want any relegated players, it shows they're not this standard, as for Goodwin, bye ya prick, failure at St Mirren, failure at Aberdeen and now a failure at Dundee United, won't miss him one bit.John Mcginn was relegated with St Mirren

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[Allant1981]

Always plays well against us like has something to prove, am I right we had him at youth level but released him? Or did my brain make that up?

Not sure but his brother is a hibs fan so maybe out to annoy the family!!

[Allant1981]

Sure there was always some chat that Sibbald supported Hibs when younger. Out of their players would definitely take Fletch for a year. He has been excellent this season.

Sibbald is 100% a falkirk fan

[CapitalGreen]

John Mcginn was relegated with St Mirren

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Relegated playing alongside Kenny McLean too. The idea that a player can’t be good because he is part of team that is relegated is absolute nonsense. Hanlon and Stevenson have both been relegated and were beating the champions last night.

[CapitalGreen]

Sure there was always some chat that Sibbald supported Hibs when younger. Out of their players would definitely take Fletch for a year. He has been excellent this season.

His brother is a big Hibs fan but he isn’t.

[Paulie Walnuts]

God knows what Jack Ross done to that squad. Took them from 4th to 9-0 defeats and they’ve never fully recovered.

Both subsequent managers have had a PPG that would have seen them stay up semi comfortably. The start they had this season has killed them.

Goodwin would have picked up 44 points points after 37 league games with his PPG and Liam Fox would have had 40 after 37 league games.

[JimBHibees]

His brother is a big Hibs fan but he isn’t.

Fair enough vaguely remembered some Hibs connection

[Bushwoof]

Not seen too much of the Arabs, but I'd take Behich based on his world cup performances and the game at Tannadice where we were cheated of 3 points. He'd have a season to get ready to take over from Lewis! He might be mates with Boyle and Miller, so could be an option.

[Hiber-nation]

God knows what Jack Ross done to that squad. Took them from 4th to 9-0 defeats and they’ve never fully recovered.

Both subsequent managers have had a PPG that would have seen them stay up semi comfortably. The start they had this season has killed them.

Goodwin would have picked up 44 points points after 37 league games with his PPG and Liam Fox would have had 40 after 37 league games.

JR's recruitment disaster and hiring Goodwin to save their season absolutely killed them.

[s2hart]

Not sure but his brother is a hibs fan so maybe out to annoy the family!!

Maybe that is the connection then, I wouldn't take him anyway. Love seeing Dundee utd getting relegated for some reason I have a great dislike for them.

[HFC93]

Very funny.

[Paulie Walnuts]

JR's recruitment disaster and hiring Goodwin to save their season absolutely killed them.

Goodwin has done the best of the lot. It’s not been enough but he’s picked up enough points that they’d be near the top of the bottom 6 if he’d carried it on for a full season.

[Smartie]

Apparently they have a core of senior players who were pals with Courts who have caused problems.

They punted Watt out on loan but the problems went deeper.

On paper they look like they’ve got some good players but they’ve also had a few killer flaws, the type of which get teams relegated - honking goalkeeper, pitiful in the centre of the defence and a general lack of pace throughout the side.

[JammyDoidger]

The boy Behich has been a thorn in our side this season, right good player with plenty experience sign him up to be our starting left back.

[worcesterhibby]

Goodwin has done the best of the lot. It’s not been enough but he’s picked up enough points that they’d be near the top of the bottom 6 if he’d carried it on for a full season.

he managed a little bit of new manager bounce when he first arrived, getting draws against St Mirren and Livi and beating us and Motherwell. But it’s been his inability to get the team to play cohesively since the split that means he has failed. 4 games since the split, against the poorer teams in the league and his direct rivals for the drop and they have lost them all, shipping 9 goals and scoring only 2. That’s spineless…bye bye Jim Goodwin…Welt

[Steven79]

he managed a little bit of new manager bounce when he first arrived, getting draws against St Mirren and Livi and beating us and Motherwell. But it’s been his inability to get the team to play cohesively since the split that means he has failed. 4 games since the split, against the poorer teams in the league and his direct rivals for the drop and they have lost them all, shipping 9 goals and scoring only 2. That’s spineless…bye bye Jim Goodwin…WeltIf they could play us every week they would have won the league.

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[jacomo]

Goodwin has done the best of the lot. It’s not been enough but he’s picked up enough points that they’d be near the top of the bottom 6 if he’d carried it on for a full season.


We’re getting into Stevie Fail territory here, but I take your point. Goodwin not solely to blame, although his previous job hardly backs up his credentials.

[04Sauzee]

Goodwin has done the best of the lot. It’s not been enough but he’s picked up enough points that they’d be near the top of the bottom 6 if he’d carried it on for a full season.

He's just lost 4 on the bounce against St J, Ross County, Livi and Killie. If he'd kept that up he'd be sacked

[Since452]

Dundee United were poor last season. Finishing 4th hid the fact that they lost six games on the bounce. After ending that losing run they then only won five of their next seventeen league games. Some would say that was relegation form. The league was so poor last season they ended up in a European place. Bizarre. Tam Courts knew it as well and jumped ship.

They've now been caught out with other teams, including Hibs improving.

[Northernhibee]

The boy Behich has been a thorn in our side this season, right good player with plenty experience sign him up to be our starting left back.
Nah, Stevenson and MacIntyre are a good combination.

[Since452]

God knows what Jack Ross done to that squad. Took them from 4th to 9-0 defeats and they’ve never fully recovered.

Both subsequent managers have had a PPG that would have seen them stay up semi comfortably. The start they had this season has killed them.

Goodwin would have picked up 44 points points after 37 league games with his PPG and Liam Fox would have had 40 after 37 league games.

They finished 4th but were in dire form for the majority of the season. Last season was a bit freakish with relegation form getting you Europe. Just shows how bad Hibs were!

[Keith_M]

Bit of a shame, as I always enjoy trips up to Tannadice.

[Billy Whizz]

Bit of a shame, as I always enjoy trips up to Tannadice.

One of the few grounds were not stuck behind the goals

[Hibernia&Alba]

God knows what Jack Ross done to that squad. Took them from 4th to 9-0 defeats and they’ve never fully recovered.

Both subsequent managers have had a PPG that would have seen them stay up semi comfortably. The start they had this season has killed them.

Goodwin would have picked up 44 points points after 37 league games with his PPG and Liam Fox would have had 40 after 37 league games.

Food for thought there. Did Ross make massive changes to the squad he had inherited?

[HendoDelivered]

Relegated playing alongside Kenny McLean too. The idea that a player can’t be good because he is part of team that is relegated is absolute nonsense. Hanlon and Stevenson have both been relegated and were beating the champions last night.

:agree:

[Paulie Walnuts]

Food for thought there. Did Ross make massive changes to the squad he had inherited?

Think they signed about 8 first team players in the summer.

Lost Neilson to Hearts and Siegrest to Celtic.

On paper a lot of their summer signings should have been decent. Losing Siegrest and replacing him with awful keepers has been a huge issue for them this season though. Just goes to show how much a good keeper matters.

[Colr]

Pretty much all but confirmed relegated. They actually have a couple of decent players and I can see there being a bit of a fire sale there once their relegation is confirmed. Would anyone take any of their players?

I wouldn’t be against at least having a look at Levitt, McGrath (I know he’s only on loan there) and maybe Behich, who I think is a lot better than Cabraja.

I have a bit of a soft spot for The Dandy Hibernian. Sorry to see them go.

[He's here!]

Happy to see them relegated. I liked them back in the early 80s when they had a phenomenal side but they've steadily started to annoy me for some reason, partly fuelled by the fact one of their fans I know is a hugely upleasant individual.

[Dashing Bob S]

Indifferent to their plight, I confess.

[flash]

Sad to see a grass pitch leave the top division. Would far rather Killie's monstrosity departed instead.

[Hibernia&Alba]

I have no issues with DU. I don't really hold strong feelings about any other clubs except for the two abominations who met at Ibrox last night.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Bit of a shame, as I always enjoy trips up to Tannadice.

Aye, always enjoyed a Dundee trip.

[Since90+2]

I've always quite liked them. Fans are sound enough, they hate the OF and they bring a decent support to ER with them.

As others have said, Dundee is not a bad little city either for a trip.

Would much rather have them in the league then not.

[Northernhibee]

For sure, the league is better for having Dundee United in it.

However, re: the previous point, I wouldn't have a single player from them. The players attitudes this season has absolutely stunk. Downed tools for three different managers and now bottom of the league and surely away to go down.

Wouldn't want such a toxic attitude at the club.

[1875Sean]

Fletcher has good head and shoulders above anyone else in that team, know he is getting on a bit but would take him on a year deal

[JamesHFC]

Fletcher has good head and shoulders above anyone else in that team, know he is getting on a bit but would take him on a year deal

He would be the ideal man to get on the end of Miller's monster throws.

[ian cruise]

The fact the players don't look up for the fight would concern me about any signings from Utd. The Celtic game where they chucked it in particular.

Would only take Levitt, and to be honest I'd be a little nervous he's no better than we have now. McGrath hasn't pushed on as a player and seemed fairly ineffectual thod season where as when SJM was relegated with St Mirren he was still performing, it's just others around him were not.

Fletcher hasn't been the player they needed and is not the player we need going forward. Plus we've gambled on players in the proper twilight of their career this season and seen it not pay off as season has progressed (Marshall and McGeady).

[Since452]

Why have they not been starting Levitt? Just back from injury? Looked a cracking player.

[BILLYHIBS]

Any time I have seen United at ER this year I have been impressed and did not expect them to be bottom of the heap but the League table does not lie

A reality check for their entitled fans who live on past glories and sends them down to think again

Haste ye back if only for your grass pitch and fan base

[ian cruise]

Any time I have seen United at ER this year I have been impressed and did not expect them to be bottom of the heap but the League table does not lie

A reality check for their entitled fans who live on past glories and sends them down to think again

Haste ye back if only for your grass pitch and fan base

*edit - not sure why BillyHibs post has quoted. It was intended to be one asking if Goodwin will dump the existing players for the last game of the season.

He absolutely should. What's the point in going out with the team that have continually underperformed?

I suspect it will be very similar to Wednesday night though.

[flash]

He absolutely should. What's the point in going out with the team that have continually underperformed?

I suspect it will be very similar to Wednesday night though.

Your reply doesn't seem to fit the post you quoted or am I going mad?

[ian cruise]

Your reply doesn't seem to fit the post you quoted or am I going mad?

No, you're right, not sure what's happened. It was a post about Goodwin dumping the players who he thinks have let the club down and playing a completely different first eleven I (thought) I'd quoted.

[flash]

No, you're right, not sure what's happened. It was a post about Goodwin dumping the players who he thinks have let the club down and playing a completely different first eleven I (thought) I'd quoted.

The joys of the online world.

[BoomtownHibees]

No, you're right, not sure what's happened. It was a post about Goodwin dumping the players who he thinks have let the club down and playing a completely different first eleven I (thought) I'd quoted.

Is that not on the Goodwin thread?

[Waxy]

Sad to see a grass pitch leave the top division. Would far rather Killie's monstrosity departed instead.

Killie could still join them in the championship.

[flash]

Killie could still join them in the championship.

Here's hoping.

[CapitalGreen]

Why have they not been starting Levitt? Just back from injury? Looked a cracking player.

Yes, missed 8 games before getting 15 mins and still then 45 mins in their previous 2 games. Was starting before the injury.

Dundee Utd paid £300k for him but he only signed a 2 year deal. Not sure how much they’d be looking for him as they need to give Man Utd 25% but they’ll surely be looking to sell him now while they can.

[Springbank]

Pretty much all but confirmed relegated. They actually have a couple of decent players and I can see there being a bit of a fire sale there once their relegation is confirmed. Would anyone take any of their players?

I wouldn’t be against at least having a look at Levitt, McGrath (I know he’s only on loan there) and maybe Behich, who I think is a lot better than Cabraja.

Behich would be a good signing at left back

Good pals with Martin Boyle from their Socceroos trips

[ian cruise]

Is that not on the Goodwin thread?

Yeah, something odd has happened.

[BILLYHIBS]

*edit - not sure why BillyHibs post has quoted. It was intended to be one asking if Goodwin will dump the existing players for the last game of the season.

He absolutely should. What's the point in going out with the team that have continually underperformed?

I suspect it will be very similar to Wednesday night though.

I am confused.com

My post was re Dundee United in general probably pre Goodwin when they outplayed us at ER for long periods 2-2 and scudded us twice at Tannadiche

I have already added my thoughts to the Jim Goodwin thread

GGTTH

[ian cruise]

I am confused.com

My post was re Dundee United in general probably pre Goodwin when they outplayed us at ER for long periods 2-2 and scudded us twice at Tannadiche

I have already added my thoughts to the Jim Goodwin thread

GGTTH

I've added a comment to say I'm not sure why your post is quoted. Problem if I delete it is it makes the following comments look completely out of place so just added an edit to explain instead.

[BILLYHIBS]

I've added a comment to say I'm not sure why your post is quoted. Problem if I delete it is it makes the following comments look completely out of place so just added an edit to explain instead.

No worries blip in the system no doubt

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