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Hibernia&Alba
23-05-2023, 01:25 AM
I don't follow celebrity gossip, but for days now I've been receiving alerts about Schofield being fired from This Morning. I refuse to click on the links, so one of you needs to tell me what's happened.....:greengrin

Pretty Boy
23-05-2023, 05:31 AM
Officially he has fallen out with his co host. He also admitted during his brother's trial for sexual abuse that his brother confided in him and he didn't report it to the police (I think he said he thought it was a one off and urged him to get help).

Unofficially there is a social media storm of allegations of inappropriate behaviour of a sexual nature. None of which is proven or even being picked up by the press yet.

NORTHERNHIBBY
23-05-2023, 06:45 AM
Appears to be a bit of a whispering campaign against him, but it seems that when you are suddenly out of favour then you are out.

Hibs4185
23-05-2023, 07:17 AM
Think it all started to unravel after skipping the queue to see the queen lying in state.

Holly and him got a lot of public backlash and I don’t think they liked their squeaky clean image being tarnished.

Frazerbob
23-05-2023, 07:22 AM
There are rumours online of an inappropriate 'friendship' with a young lad who he was mentoring and later became his partner. It's all over Twitter.

Stairway 2 7
23-05-2023, 07:52 AM
Appears to be a bit of a whispering campaign against him, but it seems that when you are suddenly out of favour then you are out.

Don't think it's whispering. He said at trial he knew about his brothers crime but didn't report. Covering child abuse isn't on sibling or not. Whether it's Savile or the church, people need to speak up

Scouse Hibee
23-05-2023, 09:35 AM
Don't think it's whispering. He said at trial he knew about his brothers crime but didn't report. Covering child abuse isn't on sibling or not. Whether it's Savile or the church, people need to speak up

Inexcusable from him in my opinion, he had to go.

Hibernia&Alba
23-05-2023, 09:56 AM
Officially he has fallen out with his co host. He also admitted during his brother's trial for sexual abuse that his brother confided in him and he didn't report it to the police (I think he said he thought it was a one off and urged him to get help).

Unofficially there is a social media storm of allegations of inappropriate behaviour of a sexual nature. None of which is proven or even being picked up by the press yet.


Don't think it's whispering. He said at trial he knew about his brothers crime but didn't report. Covering child abuse isn't on sibling or not. Whether it's Savile or the church, people need to speak up

Thanks for the replies. Very dark stuff, if true. I wondered why his name kept appearing on my news feed just because he'd been fired. Is it reported to be the issue with his brother that is behind the sacking?

overdrive
23-05-2023, 10:19 AM
Thanks for the replies. Very dark stuff, if true. I wondered why his name kept appearing on my news feed just because he'd been fired. Is it reported to be the issue with his brother that is behind the sacking?

Probably either indirectly or unofficially. Officially he’s fallen out with Holly Willoughby. They don’t say what it is they have fallen out about though some reports have said she tried to sue a company he owns/part owns several years ago, so it is very unlikely given the time that’s passed to actually be about that.

This is just me surmising here but I reckon she’s found his non-reporting to the police when his brother confessed to him to be rightly awful and that’s what they’ve fallen out about. ITV don’t seem too fussed about it given they have said he will present some awards show and will continue on some new show that’s about to come out so it’s likely they don’t want two presenters not getting along (or rather it publicly getting out they don’t get along) and have picked the younger presenter and the one with less baggage.

Again that’s just me making some assumptions here.

Linked to what PB was saying about some of the more disturbing rumours out there, there’s a rumour that the guy who allegedly wronged by PS signed a NDA that’s about to expire and that’s why ITV got rid. That doesn’t really square off with ITV keeping him on other shows though which is why I think my theory is probably most likely.

Keith_M
23-05-2023, 10:21 AM
Thanks for the replies. Very dark stuff, if true. I wondered why his name kept appearing on my news feed just because he'd been fired. Is it reported to be the issue with his brother that is behind the sacking?


The only thing I've read was that he and Holly Willoughby had a fall-out, but no details were given on that. If he has failed to report his brother's crimes, then I wouldn't be surprised if that was one of the factors.


What I find amazing is the level of coverage this has been given in the newspapers, considering it's just some guy leaving a TV show.

stu in nottingham
23-05-2023, 10:49 AM
Probably either indirectly or unofficially. Officially he’s fallen out with Holly Willoughby. They don’t say what it is they have fallen out about though some reports have said she tried to sue a company he owns/part owns several years ago, so it is very unlikely given the time that’s passed to actually be about that.

This is just me surmising here but I reckon she’s found his non-reporting to the police when his brother confessed to him to be rightly awful and that’s what they’ve fallen out about. ITV don’t seem too fussed about it given they have said he will present some awards show and will continue on some new show that’s about to come out so it’s likely they don’t want two presenters not getting along (or rather it publicly getting out they don’t get along) and have picked the younger presenter and the one with less baggage.

Again that’s just me making some assumptions here.

Linked to what PB was saying about some of the more disturbing rumours out there, there’s a rumour that the guy who allegedly wronged by PS signed a NDA that’s about to expire and that’s why ITV got rid. That doesn’t really square off with ITV keeping him on other shows though which is why I think my theory is probably most likely.

I could see why she would be wanting to distance herself from Schofield after his non-reporting. (I'm unsure why that isn't being investigated.)

Most stories are running with his alleged 'grooming' of the 15 year-old runner/personal assistant, Michael McGreevy. Rumours claim that Schofield had an alleged relationship with the boy and that this was well-known around the studio. If so, it's perhaps hard to believe that Scofield's presenting partner wouldn't have known about this.

Some say the disclosure that he is gay was a cover up for these allegations.

I think Holly Willoughby knows a little too much and is now belatedly trying to dissassociate herself from him as she feels she will get sucked in to the problems lining up for Scofield. I think she is right too. How much she is complicit, make your own minds up.

https://limegoss.com/phillip-schofield-runner/

Matthew McGreevy (centre)

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Pretty Boy
23-05-2023, 11:16 AM
I could see why she would be wanting to distance herself from Schofield after his non-reporting. (I'm unsure why that isn't being investigated.)

Most stories are running with his alleged 'grooming' of the 15 year-old runner/personal assistant, Michael McGreevy. Rumours claim that Schofield had an alleged relationship with the boy and that this was well-known around the studio. If so, it's perhaps hard to believe that Scofield's presenting partner wouldn't have known about this.

Some say the disclosure that he is gay was a cover up for these allegations.

I think Holly Willoughby knows a little too much and is now belatedly trying to dissassociate herself from him as she feels she will get sucked in to the problems lining up for Scofield. I think she is right too. How much she is complicit, make your own minds up.

https://limegoss.com/phillip-schofield-runner/

Matthew McGreevy (centre)

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Schofield being gay was an open secret in the industry for years. My mum has a friend who is in theatre and has performed with PS in the West End and she has said his extra marital activities were pretty well known about, including by his wife, for several years. Let's be totally honest it would hardly have taken top of the line 'gaydar' to have suspected as much.

I'm not sure it really mattered. A gay man in the entertainment industry is hardly a shocking news story, even one who had been married with kids, but the knives certainly seem to have been out for him since. It does allow the stories that something darker is afoot to gain a bit of traction.

McD
23-05-2023, 11:25 AM
Schofield being gay was an open secret in the industry for years. My mum has a friend who is in theatre and has performed with PS in the West End and she has said his extra marital activities were pretty well known about, including by his wife, for several years. Let's be totally honest it would hardly have taken top of the line 'gaydar' to have suspected as much.

I'm not sure it really mattered. A gay man in the entertainment industry is hardly a shocking news story, even one who had been married with kids, but the knives certainly seem to have been out for him since. It does allow the stories that something darker is afoot to gain a bit of traction.


yeah, him coming out publicly seemed to have quite a bit of backlash (seem to remember a groundswell of ‘what about his poor wife and kids’), then the massive uproar regarding the Queen’s lying in state, and now the stuff about his brother and him knowing something and not reporting it, coupled to the falling out with HW that there seems to be little detail on as to the why.

Hibernia&Alba
23-05-2023, 11:33 AM
I could see why she would be wanting to distance herself from Schofield after his non-reporting. (I'm unsure why that isn't being investigated.)

Most stories are running with his alleged 'grooming' of the 15 year-old runner/personal assistant, Michael McGreevy. Rumours claim that Schofield had an alleged relationship with the boy and that this was well-known around the studio. If so, it's perhaps hard to believe that Scofield's presenting partner wouldn't have known about this.

Some say the disclosure that he is gay was a cover up for these allegations.

I think Holly Willoughby knows a little too much and is now belatedly trying to dissassociate herself from him as she feels she will get sucked in to the problems lining up for Scofield. I think she is right too. How much she is complicit, make your own minds up.

https://limegoss.com/phillip-schofield-runner/

Matthew McGreevy (centre)

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:worms:


I seem to have opened a family sized can :eek::eek:

stu in nottingham
23-05-2023, 11:59 AM
Schofield being gay was an open secret in the industry for years. My mum has a friend who is in theatre and has performed with PS in the West End and she has said his extra marital activities were pretty well known about, including by his wife, for several years. Let's be totally honest it would hardly have taken top of the line 'gaydar' to have suspected as much.

I'm not sure it really mattered. A gay man in the entertainment industry is hardly a shocking news story, even one who had been married with kids, but the knives certainly seem to have been out for him since. It does allow the stories that something darker is afoot to gain a bit of traction.

I think I'd have been more shocked if he came out and said he wasn't gay. :wink:

No,of course it's not a shock, but it certainly is a 'story'. Also,crucially a pretty decent (with-risk) smokescreen for the well-known other activities that have abounded in showbiz circles and outside for years.

Some reports and opinions paint this as a simple fall-out of the two presenters. It would probably be wise to view this situation as something potentially far deeper and darker though.

overdrive
23-05-2023, 12:02 PM
I think it’s fairly telling the amount of celebrities that seem to openly dislike him.

grunt
23-05-2023, 04:02 PM
I think the issue about reporting your own brother to the authorities is an interesting moral question.

007
23-05-2023, 04:30 PM
Officially he has fallen out with his co host. He also admitted during his brother's trial for sexual abuse that his brother confided in him and he didn't report it to the police (I think he said he thought it was a one off and urged him to get help).

Unofficially there is a social media storm of allegations of inappropriate behaviour of a sexual nature. None of which is proven or even being picked up by the press yet.

Rumour is that's because of a super-injunction.

Hibernia&Alba
23-05-2023, 04:49 PM
I think the issue about reporting your own brother to the authorities is an interesting moral question.

It would be difficult to do, if you have a good relationship. No doubt it's a dilemma, and this might sound an easy thing to say, but I think you have to go to the police, given the crime.

Stairway 2 7
23-05-2023, 07:20 PM
I wouldn't dob my family in for minor crimes like benefit fraud or getting in a small fight, that is morally wrong but it's the truth.

Pedophilia then f them and my relationship with them. How could you look the parents of the child in the eye knowing you could have ended it immediately and helped get them justice.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"

overdrive
23-05-2023, 08:35 PM
It would be difficult to do, if you have a good relationship. No doubt it's a dilemma, and this might sound an easy thing to say, but I think you have to go to the police, given the crime.

Particularly when Schofield claimed to not being close with his brother.

lord bunberry
24-05-2023, 01:30 PM
I think I'd have been more shocked if he came out and said he wasn't gay. :wink:

No,of course it's not a shock, but it certainly is a 'story'. Also,crucially a pretty decent (with-risk) smokescreen for the well-known other activities that have abounded in showbiz circles and outside for years.

Some reports and opinions paint this as a simple fall-out of the two presenters. It would probably be wise to view this situation as something potentially far deeper and darker though.
I’ll be honest, I didn’t know he was gay or have any inclination that he was. I suppose the fact that it isn’t really a big thing these days contributes to that.

Paulie Walnuts
24-05-2023, 04:02 PM
I’ll be honest, I didn’t know he was gay or have any inclination that he was. I suppose the fact that it isn’t really a big thing these days contributes to that.

I’m the same. Can’t say I ever watched him and thought he was gay. Although I wouldn’t have cared so maybe why (that’s not a dig at others who did have an inkling btw).

Keith_M
26-05-2023, 06:46 PM
"Phillip Schofield admits affair with 'much younger ITV colleague' and 'dropped by agent'"

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/celebrity/phillip-schofield-admits-affair-much-30088325

degenerated
26-05-2023, 06:47 PM
"Phillip Schofield admits affair with 'much younger ITV colleague' and 'dropped by agent'"

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/celebrity/phillip-schofield-admits-affair-much-30088325Sounds like it's all starting to come out. 26769

Hibernia&Alba
26-05-2023, 07:43 PM
Sounds like it's all starting to come out. 26769

Clinton Baptiste. Brilliant :greengrin

Paulie Walnuts
27-05-2023, 06:54 AM
On paper based on what’s been officially said it’s an abuse of power and that’s probably the extent of it.

Can’t help but feeling it’s going to get worse though.

Stairway 2 7
27-05-2023, 07:51 AM
On paper based on what’s been officially said it’s an abuse of power and that’s probably the extent of it.

Can’t help but feeling it’s going to get worse though.

It's worse than that imo. Mentoring someone from the age of 12 and getting them a career, then sleeping with them when they are legal is vile. His shielding his brothers crimes is worse mind you

Elvis is a beast too while we're at it mind

Keith_M
27-05-2023, 08:48 AM
It's worse than that imo. Mentoring someone from the age of 12 and getting them a career, then sleeping with them when they are legal is vile. ...


I think the word 'grooming' was made for this scenario.

neil7908
27-05-2023, 08:56 AM
I think the word 'grooming' was made for this scenario.

Yup. Immensely creepy behaviour.

Paulie Walnuts
27-05-2023, 10:34 AM
It's worse than that imo. Mentoring someone from the age of 12 and getting them a career, then sleeping with them when they are legal is vile. His shielding his brothers crimes is worse mind you

Elvis is a beast too while we're at it mind

As Keith_M said, the word grooming is made for this scenario imo. I’d also be surprised if something wasn’t going on before the lad turned 16 tbh. :agree:

Now quite clear why he kept quiet about his brother.

Hibbyradge
27-05-2023, 11:17 AM
As Keith_M said, the word grooming is made for this scenario imo. I’d also be surprised if something wasn’t going on before the lad turned 16 tbh. :agree:

Now quite clear why he kept quiet about his brother.

Possibly because his brother knew about him. :dunno:

Jim44
27-05-2023, 11:22 AM
Apparently ITV are fuming that he denied it during their investigation two years ago. I think that says as much about the depth of the investigator than Schofield himself ……… ‘Do you deny the allegations, Paul?’
‘ Of course I do.’ ‘That’s ok then. Sorry for the embarrassment.’

Scouse Hibee
27-05-2023, 11:23 AM
Apparently ITV are fuming that he denied it during their investigation two years ago. I think that says as much about the depth of the investigator than Schofield himself ……… ‘Do you deny the allegations, Paul?’
‘ Of course I do.’ ‘That’s ok then. Sorry for the embarrassment.’

Maybe they should have asked Phil instead of Paul 😉

Hibbyradge
27-05-2023, 11:51 AM
Apparently ITV are fuming that he denied it during their investigation two years ago. I think that says as much about the depth of the investigator than Schofield himself ……… ‘Do you deny the allegations, Paul?’
‘ Of course I do.’ ‘That’s ok then. Sorry for the embarrassment.’

When both parties are denying it, what options do they have?

JimBHibees
29-05-2023, 09:45 AM
When both parties are denying it, what options do they have?

Yes they may have suspected but had nothing to go on. He would have sued them if sacked without any evidence during that investigation

overdrive
29-05-2023, 09:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49sZ_uAuDx0

About 1 min 10 into the clip onwards. A classic case of diverting attention away from his own behaviour? I dread to think what else he was Googling late at night.

SteveHFC
29-05-2023, 09:56 PM
Anyone watch the Eamonn Holmes interview on GB news just now?

JimBHibees
30-05-2023, 05:57 AM
Anyone watch the Eamonn Holmes interview on GB news just now?

What did he say as I would never watch that channel

SteveHFC
30-05-2023, 11:47 AM
What did he say as I would never watch that channel

https://youtu.be/SJZYrruKspU

Whole interview on there.

silverhibee
30-05-2023, 01:49 PM
Anyone watch the Eamonn Holmes interview on GB news just now?

Surprised his wife Ruth got to front Loose Women today, ITV will be looking to sack her as soon as they can, Eamonn is still bitter that ITV got shot of him and his wife from Good Morning show, it was a car crash interview with that weirdo Dan Wooton.

McSwanky
30-05-2023, 02:14 PM
that weirdo Dan Wooton.

He's an absolute muppet, that boy.

Dominic Raab accused of bullying: WOKE BLOB ATTACKS AGAIN (what the hell is the "woke blob" anyway?)
Philip Schofield accused of being narcissitic and ignoring people in the corridor: WON'T ANYONE THINK OF THE POOR VICTIMS

No doubt there's some truth to the Schofield stuff, but the hyprocrisy in the likes of Wootton is astounding.

GB "News" indeed.

davy67 +
30-05-2023, 06:40 PM
Anyone watch the Eamonn Holmes interview on GB news just now?
That's a meeting of minds , the two of them together don't have the brains to fill a thimble

He's here!
01-06-2023, 12:49 PM
I don't follow celebrity gossip, but for days now I've been receiving alerts about Schofield being fired from This Morning. I refuse to click on the links, so one of you needs to tell me what's happened.....:greengrin

Not knowing will make not a jot of difference to your life. It's as vacuous and pointless a 'scandal' as Braverman's speeding fine.

Kato
01-06-2023, 12:54 PM
Not knowing will make not a jot of difference to your life. It's as vacuous and pointless a 'scandal' as Braverman's speeding fine.I didn't realise Braverman's speeding fine caused a scandal.

Wasn't it her asking civil servants to arrange special treatment for herself surrounding her punishment that caused all the attention?

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Col2
01-06-2023, 09:47 PM
He's an absolute muppet, that boy.

Dominic Raab accused of bullying: WOKE BLOB ATTACKS AGAIN (what the hell is the "woke blob" anyway?)
Philip Schofield accused of being narcissitic and ignoring people in the corridor: WON'T ANYONE THINK OF THE POOR VICTIMS

No doubt there's some truth to the Schofield stuff, but the hyprocrisy in the likes of Wootton is astounding.

GB "News" indeed.

The “woke blob” seems to be the new description for an unspecified group of people to blame. It’s taken over from north London leftie tofu eating snowflakes.

What a country we live in.

He's here!
02-06-2023, 10:28 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65793818

ErinGoBraghHFC
02-06-2023, 10:53 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65793818

Maybe shouldn’t be cutting about with young laddies then, hard to have much sympathy for a beast tbh


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Colr
03-06-2023, 05:04 AM
I’ve lots count of the ****s I couldn’t give about this issue.

Who watches this pish on daytime TV anyway? Housewives and the unemployed? They must be the Tory base given how much time the Daily Mail is devoting to it!

BroxburnHibee
03-06-2023, 08:04 AM
I’ve lots count of the ****s I couldn’t give about this issue.

Who watches this pish on daytime TV anyway? Housewives and the unemployed? They must be the Tory base given how much time the Daily Mail is devoting to it!

And GB news!

Allant1981
03-06-2023, 09:05 AM
I’ve lots count of the ****s I couldn’t give about this issue.

Who watches this pish on daytime TV anyway? Housewives and the unemployed? They must be the Tory base given how much time the Daily Mail is devoting to it!

Yet decided to comment about it on a thread that clearly mentions schofield!!

Paulie Walnuts
03-06-2023, 11:10 AM
Just seen his BBC interview.

Using Caroline Flacks death to try and guilt people into not having negative opinions on what he’s done. Classy guy :rolleyes:

Smartie
03-06-2023, 11:15 AM
Just seen his BBC interview.

Using Caroline Flacks death to try and guilt people into not having negative opinions on what he’s done. Classy guy :rolleyes:

I have to say, I thought that was vile too.

stu in nottingham
03-06-2023, 11:35 AM
Who watches this pish on daytime TV anyway? Housewives and the unemployed?

I'd say shift workers who might enjoy an hour's TV during the day. Maybe when on their own with their partner at work/kids at school etc. as is often the shift worker's lot.

Betty Boop
03-06-2023, 08:15 PM
He had a consensual relationship with a 20 year old man.

Betty Boop
03-06-2023, 08:18 PM
Just seen his BBC interview.

Using Caroline Flacks death to try and guilt people into not having negative opinions on what he’s done. Classy guy :rolleyes:

I don't think her Mother would agree with you.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/jun/03/caroline-flack-mother-criticises-itv-over-handling-of-phillip-schofield-departure#:~:text=Christine%20Flack%20told%20Newsn ight%3A%20%E2%80%9CHe,more%20what%20she%20went%20t hrough.

Sylar
03-06-2023, 08:39 PM
He had a consensual relationship with a 20 year old man.

It's rare I agree with almost anything you post, but for the reason you cite, I don't get why this is such vitriolic news.

Where was this level of outrage when a former PM had an affair while working - was it because that wasn't a homosexual affair, meaning it wasn't quite so 'offensive' to the sizeable gammon population.

I don't agree with what Schofield did (if indeed 'abuse of power' is part of the dynamic) but an affair at work shouldn't be a career ender in the way this seems to be - not when absolute ****s like Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock have continued to operate in spite of their very well publicised affairs (which again, probably incorporated some abuse of power dynamic).

HUTCHYHIBBY
03-06-2023, 08:41 PM
Yet decided to comment about it on a thread that clearly mentions schofield!!

These posts are pish.

HUTCHYHIBBY
03-06-2023, 08:44 PM
I'm still more irate at Holly doing the 5-1 gesture. This interview on the BBC is a complete disaster for him, woe is me I'm selling my house for £1.2m, what a shame.

Paulie Walnuts
03-06-2023, 08:57 PM
I don't think her Mother would agree with you.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/jun/03/caroline-flack-mother-criticises-itv-over-handling-of-phillip-schofield-departure#:~:text=Christine%20Flack%20told%20Newsn ight%3A%20%E2%80%9CHe,more%20what%20she%20went%20t hrough.

I don’t really care if her mother agrees with me. Imo that’s exactly what he’s done. He’s used his situation and tried to use the suicide of someone else to deflect from it by conflating the treatment he’s had to the treatment she had even though they’re not remotely similar incidents and then giving it the ‘if it wasn’t for my daughters I’d have done the same’ patter. It’s absolutely rotten to use her death to try and lighten the load on yourself.

He’s a ****bag as far as I’m concerned.

Paulie Walnuts
03-06-2023, 08:59 PM
It's rare I agree with almost anything you post, but for the reason you cite, I don't get why this is such vitriolic news.

Where was this level of outrage when a former PM had an affair while working - was it because that wasn't a homosexual affair, meaning it wasn't quite so 'offensive' to the sizeable gammon population.

I don't agree with what Schofield did (if indeed 'abuse of power' is part of the dynamic) but an affair at work shouldn't be a career ender in the way this seems to be - not when absolute ****s like Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock have continued to operate in spite of their very well publicised affairs (which again, probably incorporated some abuse of power dynamic).

The difference here is that he got this person into a role at his work whilst they were underage. He carried on a ‘relationship’ with this person then turned that into something sexual when they were old enough (although I’m dubious that he would have waited that long, but we don’t have evidence of that). He groomed the boy/man.

Pretty Boy
04-06-2023, 08:45 AM
Schofield knew what he was doing when he threw the homophobia line into his interview. His coming out was greeted with a mix of great support or general indifference, in 2023 being gay really isn't that big a deal for most people (as should be the case). Of course homophobia still exists, it would be foolish to suggest otherwise but is it the motivating factor in the reaction to this case?

I'd suggest in the 'post Saville' world a man who entered a sexual relationship with a female whom he had know since her early teens would see a reaction of complete revulsion. I accept there are hypocrisies, Cheryl Cole and Liam Payne have been cited a lot, but that's arguably a societal issue as well. Males groomed and/or exploited by females are often viewed as 'lucky *******s'.

He knew what he had done was wrong. Had he believed he was innocent then he would 't have felt the need to lie about it repeatedly, including during an official internal enquiry. If I'm sure my actions are morally and legally acceptable then I feel no need to lie about them.

I'm maybe a bit old fashioned but I find any relationship involving someone in their mid teens with an older individual to be an abuse of power, even if it doesn't become sexual until a later point. The older individual in the vast majority of cases is likely to be in a senior position, be that in an official sense, financially, as an influence among a wider group or even just in terms of emotional maturity.

overdrive
04-06-2023, 09:25 AM
Schofield knew what he was doing when he threw the homophobia line into his interview. His coming out was greeted with a mix of great support or general indifference, in 2023 being gay really isn't that big a deal for most people (as should be the case). Of course homophobia still exists, it would be foolish to suggest otherwise but is it the motivating factor in the reaction to this case?

I'd suggest in the 'post Saville' world a man who entered a sexual relationship with a female whom he had know since her early teens would see a reaction of complete revulsion. I accept there are hypocrisies, Cheryl Cole and Liam Payne have been cited a lot, but that's arguably a societal issue as well. Males groomed and/or exploited by females are often viewed as 'lucky *******s'.

He knew what he had done was wrong. Had he believed he was innocent then he would 't have felt the need to lie about it repeatedly, including during an official internal enquiry. If I'm sure my actions are morally and legally acceptable then I feel no need to lie about them.

I'm maybe a bit old fashioned but I find any relationship involving someone in their mid teens with an older individual to be an abuse of power, even if it doesn't become sexual until a later point. The older individual in the vast majority of cases is likely to be in a senior position, be that in an official sense, financially, as an influence among a wider group or even just in terms of emotional maturity.

Yep. I’m surprised since he brought up Caroline Flack that he didn’t mention the fact she was getting called a paedophile in the street when she engaged in a similar relationship with Harry Styles when he was 17 and she was 30. That was arguably not as bad as she didn’t know him when he was younger so you can’t have the accusations of grooming. It doesn’t fit his “this is only a thing because it’s a gay relationship” agenda.

Let’s not forget he was happy to create a situation where he was happy to indirectly accuse gay men with that stunt he pulled when he was interviewing David Cameron.

silverhibee
04-06-2023, 11:53 AM
That Al Pacino guy is one we need to keep an eye on. :cb

Keith_M
04-06-2023, 01:43 PM
What I'd like to know is.... what is it that the UK government are currently doing that they don't want to be given too much focus in the media?

That's normally the reason that situations like this are given a ridiculous amount of coverage, as a means of distraction from something that really matters.

heretoday
04-06-2023, 03:34 PM
Schofield should shut his mouth. He's being badly advised.
Leave the country for a while.
Come back. The circus will have moved on.

bringbackbenny
04-06-2023, 04:38 PM
Forgot about this classic, dude from Carter taking the smarmy git out at the Smash Hits xmas party 😅

https://youtu.be/y1vJW0AF84o