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marinello59
07-05-2023, 06:22 PM
Worthy of his own thread? I think so. :greengrin
That was a very professional performance from him yesterday, nothing particularly flashy but good in the tackle and calm and collected on the ball. It’s more then likely he will be away for good at the end of the season so let’s appreciate him while he is here.
bingo70
07-05-2023, 06:28 PM
I think he’s tremendous.
I know you said there’s nothing flashy about him but he had a couple of really good runs forward in the first half.
I think he’ll go on to have a great career.
PHeffernan
07-05-2023, 06:54 PM
Came in quietly in January and has made a great contribution for a 20 year old.
A successful loan spell along with Fish.
Kukharevych has been good but injured for the majority of the season.
Hoppe has done okay but has had a limited impact.
Since452
07-05-2023, 07:11 PM
Excellent signing as was Fish. Do we need a DoF? 😉
Bostonhibby
07-05-2023, 07:20 PM
Very good player, sets about getting the job done quietly and effectively, be delighted to have him for another season, destined to have a great career.
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badabing67
07-05-2023, 07:28 PM
Don't think he will get a game at Burnley next season, if we can qualify for Europe maybe we can get him back if he wants to come.
bingo70
07-05-2023, 07:30 PM
Don't think he will get a game at Burnley next season, if we can qualify for Europe maybe we can get him back if he wants to come.
I think he was close to joining PSV before we got him, I’d imagine a move abroad will be on the cards for him.
Carheenlea
07-05-2023, 07:34 PM
Very good player, sets about getting the job done quietly and effectively, be delighted to have him for another season, destined to have a great career.
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Agree :agree:
A young player who looks to have all the attributes required to play at a very decent level in the modern game.
You see a lot of talented young players maybe getting ideas above their station too early, but Egan Riley appears to have a very professional outlook - gives 100% every game, making the most of his regular starts to improve his game and gaining experience as he does so in a manner that must be a managers dream.
When he leaves us, he’s definitely one I’ll be keeping an eye on in his future endeavours.
chrisski33
07-05-2023, 07:43 PM
Guy looks and acts so professional and off pitch too! Hope he stays next season.
Vault Boy
07-05-2023, 07:46 PM
A really good right back who is so well rounded at a young age. Would love him back for another year.
B.H.F.C
07-05-2023, 08:32 PM
He’s a very good player, been an excellent signing and generally done well wherever he’s played.
Hope we can keep him next season, same goes for all existing loan players. We’ve actually picked up some good players in that market this year.
bingo70
07-05-2023, 08:37 PM
He’s a very good player, been an excellent signing and generally done well wherever he’s played.
Hope we can keep him next season, same goes for all existing loan players. We’ve actually picked up some good players in that market this year.
I think with Egan-Riley it will be his attitude he’s remembered for as much as his performances.
Much to contrary opinion, Matt Doherty was very good full back for us, he came across as a dick though and that’s what he’s remembered for.
B.H.F.C
07-05-2023, 08:41 PM
I think with Egan-Riley it will be his attitude he’s remembered for as much as his performances.
Much to contrary opinion, Matt Doherty was very good full back for us, he came across as a dick though and that’s what he’s remembered for.
For me he’s generally improved us when he’s played though.
Had the one shocker as a centre half in a two which he never is. Other than that, been good. Hope we can get him back for next year. Also think right back is his best position.
hibeemikey21
07-05-2023, 09:28 PM
I think he was close to joining PSV before we got him, I’d imagine a move abroad will be on the cards for him.
Aye, reckon it will be like Harry Clarke. Has proven to Burnley he’s more than capable at this level, so they’ll be looking to loan up a level or sell (depending on what their long term plan is for him).
Unfortunately it makes no sense to have him continue to play football on loan at a comparatively low level for an open ended period.
Nicho87
07-05-2023, 09:49 PM
Was very good however he was blowing out his arse after 65-70 minutes.
bordergreen
08-05-2023, 12:01 AM
Came in quietly in January and has made a great contribution for a 20 year old.
A successful loan spell along with Fish.
Kukharevych has been good but injured for the majority of the season.
Hoppe has done okay but has had a limited impact.
I like Hoppe. I think that if he was given a run in the team, that he would do well. I think he is a good player. Not sure who I would leave out of the team for him just now though.
BILLYHIBS
08-05-2023, 06:11 AM
Very good player and has adapted well to the Scottish game
I remember a few games back he had a poor first half cannot remember who against so like all young player’s can be inconsistent
I would not say playing in the SPFL Premiership is a low level and is a good learning ground for him playing at fast competitive pace against international players
A keeper if we can get him and if he wants to stay even for another season
Win win
eastmainsmsh
08-05-2023, 07:08 AM
Was very good however he was blowing out his arse after 65-70 minutes.
He has been like that since he came love to see him fully match fit hope we can keep him Real Quality player
Gmack7
08-05-2023, 08:08 AM
Very good player and has adapted well to the Scottish game
I remember a few games back he had a poor first half cannot remember who against so like all young player’s can be inconsistent
I would not say playing in the SPFL Premiership is a low level and is a good learning ground for him playing at fast competitive pace against international players
A keeper if we can get him and if he wants to stay even for another season
Win win
He had a shaky start against hearts and was booked for halfing McKay in the first few minutes, I wanted him taken off shortly afterwards but he went in to have a great game
BILLYHIBS
08-05-2023, 09:47 AM
He had a shaky start against hearts and was booked for halfing McKay in the first few minutes, I wanted him taken off shortly afterwards but he went in to have a great game
Yeah remember thinking the same take him off looked totally out his depth but came on to a good game
The experience will do him the world of good and will know what to expect next time from the off
NORTHERNHIBBY
08-05-2023, 09:54 AM
If we could sign him permanently, I would not be averse to giving Burnley the majority of any sell on fee, less our outlay. Same for Will Fish.
147lothian
08-05-2023, 10:06 AM
If we could sign him permanently, I would not be averse to giving Burnley the majority of any sell on fee, less our outlay. Same for Will Fish.
Egan-Riley and Fish have been two superb signings who were brought in on loan that have improved the team as well as obviously their own careers, I would be delighted if we could sign both up at the end of the season. As a matter of interest who was responsible for identifying them? Was it LJ or the scouting team or both working together?
EGL2000
08-05-2023, 11:37 AM
Egan-Riley and Fish have been two superb signings who were brought in on loan that have improved the team as well as obviously their own careers, I would be delighted if we could sign both up at the end of the season. As a matter of interest who was responsible for identifying them? Was it LJ or the scouting team or both working together?
Egan-Riley most likely will have been LJ as he's from the city group, which he knows really well. Not sure on Fish.
Bishop Hibee
08-05-2023, 11:56 AM
Going against the majority opinion here but I’m not overly keen. He doesn’t get forward enough for a modern right back and I’m not convinced he’s any better than Paul McGinn was. I’d like to see us getting better quality in the summer or giving Megwa a run.
B.H.F.C
08-05-2023, 12:07 PM
Going against the majority opinion here but I’m not overly keen. He doesn’t get forward enough for a modern right back and I’m not convinced he’s any better than Paul McGinn was. I’d like to see us getting better quality in the summer or giving Megwa a run.
I think there is a valid point in us needing more from our full backs in an attacking sense next season. Goal contributions, probably out with Cadden, almost non existent.
I do think over the last three games, since CJ has been playing right back, that there has been a big emphasis on the team being solid first and foremost. The way we’ve been set up the full backs haven’t been overly adventurous (although I know Stevenson got a goal at St Johnstone). CJ did break to good effect a couple of times on Saturday, taking us 50 or 60 yards up the park. I think there is more to come from him.
Hibbyradge
09-05-2023, 09:05 AM
I like Hoppe. I think that if he was given a run in the team, that he would do well. I think he is a good player. Not sure who I would leave out of the team for him just now though.
I haven't seen anything from him that makes me think he'd be worth spending money on, but the manager watches him in training every day so we'll see what develops.
speedy_gonzales
09-05-2023, 10:03 AM
Going against the majority opinion here but I’m not overly keen. He doesn’t get forward enough for a modern right back and I’m not convinced he’s any better than Paul McGinn was. I’d like to see us getting better quality in the summer or giving Megwa a run.
I'm not convinced that his game/how he's been set up to play. He's more than adept at his defensive duties and paying the ball out but with Chris Cadden racing down the line ahead of him is there any real need for him to break forward?
He does offer support, and noticed he does get in to the inside right channel occasionally when Cadden goes wide.
Aside from that, and it's very childish, but I get a wee giggle when CJ does make a run forward, he has an unusual running style, almost like his legs are too wee 😀
SaulGoodman
09-05-2023, 10:38 AM
I'm not convinced that his game/how he's been set up to play. He's more than adept at his defensive duties and paying the ball out but with Chris Cadden racing down the line ahead of him is there any real need for him to break forward?
He does offer support, and noticed he does get in to the inside right channel occasionally when Cadden goes wide.
Aside from that, and it's very childish, but I get a wee giggle when CJ does make a run forward, he has an unusual running style, almost like his legs are too wee 😀
Think it’s been good management from Johnson tbh. He’s seen Caddens limitations in defence so he’s stuck a solid defender behind him and now Cadden is free to bomb forward without worrying as much about defending.
CapitalGreen
09-05-2023, 11:15 AM
Think it’s been good management from Johnson tbh. He’s seen Caddens limitations in defence so he’s stuck a solid defender behind him and now Cadden is free to bomb forward without worrying as much about defending.
Just needs to worry about sorting out his crossing now.
Hibernian Verse
09-05-2023, 11:18 AM
Just needs to worry about sorting out his crossing now.
If our strikers took chances laid on a plate by Cadden his stats would be a lot better
If our strikers took chances laid on a plate by Cadden his stats would be a lot better
I like cadden but if he lifted his head sometimes before firing a cross in the strikers may have half a chance
Stewboy
09-05-2023, 05:26 PM
Proper player. If we could get him signed would be tremendous
Donegal Hibby
10-05-2023, 05:59 PM
Egan - Riley v Josh Campbell here .
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/carabao-90-2-challenge-with-josh-campbell-cj-egan-riley
Big_Franck
10-05-2023, 06:32 PM
I like cadden but if he lifted his head sometimes before firing a cross in the strikers may have half a chance
Totally agree. He constantly puts the ball between keeper and last defender, even when our striker is 10 yards deeper. He did well to pick out Nisbet with a cut back on Saturday, which Nisbet then blazed over the bar, but that is rare for Cadden. Hopefully we can see more of that from him.
cameronw-hfc
10-05-2023, 07:22 PM
Totally agree. He constantly puts the ball between keeper and last defender, even when our striker is 10 yards deeper. He did well to pick out Nisbet with a cut back on Saturday, which Nisbet then blazed over the bar, but that is rare for Cadden. Hopefully we can see more of that from him.
In fairness to Cadden thats where you'd want a ball put in 9 times out of 10, we're just rotten at getting on the end of them.
MWHIBBIES
10-05-2023, 07:30 PM
Cadden consistently finds Hibs players with crosses and cutbacks. We just miss. He'd have far more assists if our forwards finished chances like Saturday. 5 assists this season could easily be 10.
Gray put half his crosses out for goal kicks and throw ins. Compared to him, Cadden is exceptional at crossing.
Obviously gray the better all round fullback.
CapitalGreen
10-05-2023, 07:36 PM
Cadden consistently finds Hibs players with crosses and cutbacks. We just miss. He'd have far more assists if our forwards finished chances like Saturday. 5 assists this season could easily be 10.
Gray put half his crosses out for goal kicks and throw ins. Compared to him, Cadden is exceptional at crossing.
Obviously gray the better all round fullback.
Cadden has crossed the ball 140 times in the league this season and has found a Hibs player 30 times. That averages out at less than once a game.
Of those 30 times he’s found a Hibs player, 16 have resulted in an attempt at goal. That averages out at less than once every 2 games.
blackpoolhibs
10-05-2023, 07:40 PM
Cadden has crossed the ball 140 times in the league this season and has found a Hibs player 30 times. That averages out at less than once a game. Of those 30 times he’s reached a Hibs player, 16 have resulted in an attempt at goal which averages out at less than once every 2 games.
I suppose its all down to what you consider consistently means. :tee hee:
Unseen work
10-05-2023, 07:41 PM
In fairness to Cadden thats where you'd want a ball put in 9 times out of 10, we're just rotten at getting on the end of them.
For me it’s more the weight of his pass/cross that is more often than not poor.
A lot of them go inbetween striker/defender and keeper but he puts them in at such a pace it is near impossible for the strikers to get on the end of them.
If he gets the weight of pass better and angle it slightly better then he’d get alot more assists imo
CentreLine
10-05-2023, 07:47 PM
Cadden has crossed the ball 140 times in the league this season and has found a Hibs player 30 times. That averages out at less than once a game.
Of those 30 times he’s found a Hibs player, 16 have resulted in an attempt at goal. That averages out at less than once every 2 games.
I feel the opposite is true. We have strikers and midfielders that should be getting on the end of these crosses. How much better does it get fir them when a player consistently gets to the line and crosses balls between keeper and defenders? I see the issue here as on our strikers not Cadden.
Smartie
10-05-2023, 07:52 PM
I know he’d offer a lot less by way of “all round play” but I always think that Jamie McLaren would make Cadden’s stats infinitely better.
More often than not it looks to me like Cadden’s doing his bit right by focussing on beating his man and putting the ball in a dangerous area. If he pauses to get his head up, how many crosses are cut out by a defender getting a split second to get back, or how many does he not put over and instead cut safely back the way?
It’s a frustration I have about the ever popular 451 tbh. You need the central striker to help out a lot with the build up meaning that it can be a struggle for him to get into the box when the ball is worked into a decent position out wide.
CapitalGreen
10-05-2023, 08:00 PM
I feel the opposite is true. We have strikers and midfielders that should be getting on the end of these crosses. How much better does it get fir them when a player consistently gets to the line and crosses balls between keeper and defenders? I see the issue here as on our strikers not Cadden.
We have scored more goals from crosses this season than any non-Old Firm team, we don’t have an issue with getting on the end of good crosses.
MWHIBBIES
10-05-2023, 08:03 PM
Cadden has crossed the ball 140 times in the league this season and has found a Hibs player 30 times. That averages out at less than once a game.
Of those 30 times he’s found a Hibs player, 16 have resulted in an attempt at goal. That averages out at less than once every 2 games.
Is that significantly worse than others who cross so often?
Surprised he so rarely finds a player, I probably just find it easier to forget the poor ones of course. Just really don't see Cadden as a problem with our attack. He consistently gets us forward and creates dangerous situations. Nisbet chance on Saturday was good play and a total sitter missed.
RyeSloan
10-05-2023, 08:03 PM
I feel the opposite is true. We have strikers and midfielders that should be getting on the end of these crosses. How much better does it get fir them when a player consistently gets to the line and crosses balls between keeper and defenders? I see the issue here as on our strikers not Cadden.
The answer is probably somewhere between the two extremes.
You can’t solely blame the strikers for not being where Cadden puts the ball…you could just reverse that and say why does Cadden not learn the striker is never there and pass to where he actually is instead!
RyeSloan
10-05-2023, 08:05 PM
Cadden has crossed the ball 140 times in the league this season and has found a Hibs player 30 times. That averages out at less than once a game.
Of those 30 times he’s found a Hibs player, 16 have resulted in an attempt at goal. That averages out at less than once every 2 games.
Nice stats!
But how does that compare to any other non OF player in similar positions?
On straight reading they don’t look so good but comparisons are probably required.
King Cosell
10-05-2023, 08:15 PM
Cadden has crossed the ball 140 times in the league this season and has found a Hibs player 30 times. That averages out at less than once a game.
Of those 30 times he’s found a Hibs player, 16 have resulted in an attempt at goal. That averages out at less than once every 2 games.
Wouldn't be surprised if our conversion rate is similar to Celtic's. They've scored 105 league goals, we've scored 51, but they've probably created twice as many chances.
CapitalGreen
10-05-2023, 08:34 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if our conversion rate is similar to Celtic's. They've scored 105 league goals, we've scored 51, but they've probably created twice as many chances.
Celtic 0.15 goals per shot
Hibs 0.09 goals per shot
King Cosell
10-05-2023, 09:05 PM
Celtic 0.15 goals per shot
Hibs 0.09 goals per shot
Celtic & Rangers more likely to keep possession and create a good chance, rest of teams likely to have more speculative shots.
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