Supporters Speak on the Coronation

[Colr]

Good the hear:




Kevin Williamson
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Easter Rd message to the Royal parasites #GGTTH pic.twitter.com/ta3yzv3CzX

So that’s Celtic and Hibs speaking as the voice of the people.

Anyone else? Would expect the same sympathies from Liverpool bit are all other clubs supported by toadying simps?

[Malthibby]

Was just glad it passed by without comment; apart fro Stick your Coronation up your a... of course..

[LunasBoots]

D'Utd aswell 😉

[Jay]

Don't speak for me. Nothing to do with football and had no place there imo.

[MGmick]

The coronation happened. So what? Some cared, some didn't, I didn't, but that's the country we live in. It isn't really that important.

[DaveF]

Don't speak for me. Nothing to do with football and had no place there imo.

Spoke loudly for me. Well done team.

BTW, rather than deleting my posts asking for a message, just let me be or ban me.

I care not.

[leftpeg]

Spoke loudly for me. Well done team.And me!

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[bingo70]

Spoke loudly for me. Well done team.

Me as well. I don’t often join in with the signing now but I enjoyed that today.

If there were any royalists today I hope they hated it.

(FWIW I didn’t like the lizzy in a box continuation of the song, that’s not for me but hey ho each to their own)

[Pretty Boy]

No issue with it. They are entitled to make their feelings known and no one was obliged to join in with the chant. It was largely sporadic, loud but far from universal and it didn't last long.

I found all the anger about how others chose to spend the day a bit bewildering tbh. I'm against the monarchy as an institution and thus opposed the coronation for the same reason. I didn't watch a single second of the whole thing because I had no interest in doing so and it was easily avoided. If others wanted to do differently then good for them. Their choice. Sneering at individuals just dilutes the wider argument imo.

[Colr]

Don't speak for me. Nothing to do with football and had no place there imo.

Football is life!

[SteveHFC]

And me!

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And me.

[Blaster]

The coronation happened. So what? Some cared, some didn't, I didn't, but that's the country we live in. It isn't really that important.

100% mate. People shouldn’t be against anyone who favours either side of the argument especially in a football stadium

[TrumpIsAPeado]

Don't speak for me. Nothing to do with football and had no place there imo.

How do you know it had no place there? You were busy watching the coronation instead. :wink:

[Hibbyradge]

Football is life!

:thumbsup:

[Jay]

How do you know it had no place there? You were busy watching the coronation instead. :wink:

How do you know the coronation was awful? You were busy at the football?

[Pagan Hibernia]

Good the hear:




Kevin Williamson
⁦‪@williamsonkev‬⁩


Easter Rd message to the Royal parasites #GGTTH pic.twitter.com/ta3yzv3CzX

So that’s Celtic and Hibs speaking as the voice of the people.

Anyone else? Would expect the same sympathies from Liverpool bit are all other clubs supported by toadying simps?

Clubs are rarely homogeneous organisations (The Old Firm being obvious exceptions). They’re made up of all sorts of different people, views and politics.

in Scotland, outside of Rangers, I’d expect most clubs to have some royalists in their ranks, a huge chunk who are ambivalent, and a large and vocal minority who are anti monarchy. But that’s just a guess.

The balance will tip one way or the other with different clubs. Hearts will probably have more pro monarchists and Hibs probably less.

[LunasBoots]

How do you know the coronation was awful? You were busy at the football?

Watching a hereditary leeching billionaire during a cost of living crisis isn't for everyone 😉

[TrumpIsAPeado]

How do you know the coronation was awful? You were busy at the football?

I never said the coronation was awful (as I never watched any of it). I do however think the royal family are awful.

[Jay]

Watching a hereditary leeching billionaire during a cost of living crisis isn't for everyone 😉

I agree

[Jay]

I never said the coronation was awful (as I never watched any of it). I do however think the royal family are awful.

Fair enough. I was just trying to lighten the place up a bit. It's a bitter place just now.

[marinello59]

If Hibs had chosen to play the National Anthem I would have joined in with the chants. They didn’t so what did it have to do with the game? Any moral high ground was lost with the Lizzies in a Box chant. Pathetic Green Brigade wannabe stuff.

[Pagan Hibernia]

I treat the Royal Family and monarchies the same as I treat religion. Absolutely zero interest in it myself but if it brings some comfort and happiness to others they can knock themselves out.

flag waving nationalism does give me the boke mind you.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

And me.

And me


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[TrumpIsAPeado]

I treat the Royal Family and monarchies the same as I treat religion. Absolutely zero interest in it myself but if it brings some comfort and happiness to others they can knock themselves out.

flag waving nationalism does give me the boke mind you.

And for those that it doesn't bring comfort and happiness to, they can always rely on his majesty's constabulary to knock them out instead.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Well done the Block7 guys, fully support that and you certainly spoke for me.

I was never a fan of our fans getting political. But when you see that the leaders of the 'Republic' organisation were arrested in London this morning before getting the chance to join the peaceful and entirely lawful demonstration they had organised then perhaps we bloody well should ... You can't stand by and watch actions that amounted to nothing less than those of a police state and exempt anything as a means of protest and that includes the football.

The laws used to silence these guys do not as yet apply in Scotland ... but given Westminster's determination to stamp over any devolved competencies, how long until that does include the law and our right to peaceful protest is crushed, as is already happening in England.

If our fans getting 'political' equates to standing up for folks right to social justice and to peacefully protest and demonstrate then I'm all for it.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

And for those that it doesn't bring comfort and happiness to, they can always rely on his majesty's constabulary to knock them out instead.

Their deeds would shame all the devils in hell


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[Pagan Hibernia]

And for those that it doesn't bring comfort and happiness to, they can always rely on his majesty's constabulary to knock them out instead.

yes that was shocking.

[theonlywayisup]

We're all Hibernian supporters! That's what unites us.

Anything chants that's got diddly squat to do with Hibernian FC has no place at Easter Road, IMO.

[DIXIHIBS]

And me!

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And me

[One Day Soon]

If Hibs had chosen to play the National Anthem I would have joined in with the chants. They didn’t so what did it have to do with the game? Any moral high ground was lost with the Lizzies in a Box chant. Pathetic Green Brigade wannabe stuff.

Never a more spot on post posted on .net. Anything that involves falling in step with the plastics is honking.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Never a more spot on post posted on .net. Anything that involves falling in step with the plastics is honking.

Bloody nonsense. What, just because Celtic fans do something we are copying them if we agree with their actions and do something similar? Absolute rubbish, as was the post you quoted.

We are not the only fans in the UK this weekend to show disapproval of the coronation ... are they copying Celtic too?

[wookie70]

I was glad to see the banners and hear the chants go round and also relieved the club did nothing to mark the coronation. I took a risk and joined in so hopefully the police don't have a video as it seems any type of protest or in deed thought of protest is unlawful these days. It appears the country is morally, democratically and fiscally bankrupt these days. Our club, through the Foundation, helps feed many in the community on a weekly basis and it is ridiculous that money is being spent on a coronation when citizens are freezing and starving.

[TrumpIsAPeado]

Never a more spot on post posted on .net. Anything that involves falling in step with the plastics is honking.

So if Celtic fans do something, that rules it out for us? I'd like to think that Hibs fans do their own thing regardless of what Celtic fans do or don't do.

[Jay]

Bloody nonsense. What, just because Celtic fans do something we are copying them if we agree with their actions and do something similar? Absolute rubbish, as was the post you quoted.

We? Or some of us? It ain't we that's for sure.
Not my club, not my team.

[The Harp Awakes]

The coronation happened. So what? Some cared, some didn't, I didn't, but that's the country we live in. It isn't really that important.

Correct, it isn't very important. However, it's been blasted over TV and the media channels incessantly as if it is were.

Well done Hibs fans today. It's time the majority on these islands stood up and stopped being complicit in upholding this distasteful relic of our past.

[NAE NOOKIE]

We? Or some of us? It ain't we that's for sure.
Not my club, not my team.

F me ... semantics. Yeh ok not all of us, not all Celtic fans either I'm sure.

No idea what your second bit is supposed to mean .... my guess is what has been hinted at already, that Hibs fans are entirely excluded from commenting on or having a view on anything if Celtic fans do it first .. which is simply bloody nonsense.

[One Day Soon]

Still, Humza seemed to enjoy himself getting into fancy dress.

[Mr Grieves]

Never a more spot on post posted on .net. Anything that involves falling in step with the plastics is honking.

I get the impression you wished we fell in step with another Glasgow club

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

I get the impression you wished we fell in step with another Glasgow club

St Rochs?


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[Lago]

Good the hear:




Kevin Williamson
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Easter Rd message to the Royal parasites #GGTTH pic.twitter.com/ta3yzv3CzX

So that’s Celtic and Hibs speaking as the voice of the people.

Anyone else? Would expect the same sympathies from Liverpool bit are all other clubs supported by toadying simps?
Not sure I'm happy with hibs being coupled to Celtic in anything to be honest.

[One Day Soon]

I get the impression you wished we fell in step with another Glasgow club

I get the impression you wish I wished we fell in step with another Glasgow club.

[DIXIHIBS]

If Hibs had chosen to play the National Anthem I would have joined in with the chants. They didn’t so what did it have to do with the game? Any moral high ground was lost with the Lizzies in a Box chant. Pathetic Green Brigade wannabe stuff.

So if hibs had played GSTK you would have been a wannabe? What happened today was nothing to do with green brigade etc just a brief opinion on todays events from average fans imho.

[zitelli62]

So if Celtic fans do something, that rules it out for us? I'd like to think that Hibs fans do their own thing regardless of what Celtic fans do or don't do.

If celtic fans do something tomorrow does that mean there copying hibs?

[BegbieHSC]

Supporting a republic is not a stance reserved solely for Celtic fans.

It’s nonsense to allege that a large section of our support are Green Brigade wannabes, because they loudly rejected an archaic system where one man can be born better than the rest of us, and thus rule over us.

Proud of our fans today

[TrumpIsAPeado]

If celtic fans do something tomorrow does that mean there copying hibs?

Nope. Apparently it means that we're somehow copying them. Along with St Mirren fans, Dundee Utd fans and Liverpool fans.

[One Day Soon]

Off to the Holy Ground to this thread should go to fulfill its full Wolfie Smith potential.

[DIXIHIBS]

Off to the Holy Ground to this thread should go to fulfill its full Wolfie Smith potential.

From the poster who brought Humza into the debate....

[cabbageandribs1875]

:thumbsup: keep up the good work block 7

[One Day Soon]

From the poster who brought Humza into the debate....

I rather think ‘Republican’ Humza brought himself into the debate when he turned up at the Abbey in fancy dress. Close call as to who moved us closer to a republic today, some people chanting at Easter Road or the SNP First Minister doffing cap at the coronation and giving it ‘God save the King’. At least he hasn’t turned up in the posh seats at Wimbledon. Yet.

[Dashing Bob S]

Fans of any club can make a positive political gesture if they care to do so. It's not reserved for Celtic, many of whose fans only do this to antagonise reactionary elements in the Hun support. We c an do our own thing without being associated with that parochial sectarian tit for tat nonsense.

If our game had been earlier we would have made the protest first. The banner, for example, was obviously in preparation long before the Celtic supporters made their protest.

We don't need permission from bigots to promote a just cause.

[Baader]

They spoke for me in my absence and I'm pleased about that. Well done! Every man is a king.

[The Baldmans Comb]

A coming of age for Block 7 who seemed to speak for the majority of Hibs fans in the stadium given the loud applause and subsequent singing.

A wee shot across the bows as well to the USA owners and English management that the supporters have a voice and will still be here long after they have departed.

All the reincarnations of Hibs supporters groups from Capital Greens, Since 1875 and now Block 7 have been a breath of fresh air over the last 10 years.

The laughable argument that political protests "shouldnae be allowed" or its "copying the Celtic" is a complete cop out as what you really mean is that its something you disagree with but haven't got the guts to argue your point so you hide behind a smokescreen.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

A coming of age for Block 7 who seemed to speak for the majority of Hibs fans in the stadium given the loud applause and subsequent singing.

A wee shot across the bows as well to the USA owners and English management that the supporters have a voice and will still be here long after they have departed.

All the reincarnations of Hibs supporters groups from Capital Greens, Since 1875 and now Block 7 have been a breath of fresh air over the last 10 years.

The laughable argument that political protects "shouldnae be allowed" or its "copying the Celtic" is a complete cop out as what you really mean is that its something you disagree with but haven't got the guts to argue your point so you hide behind a smokescreen.

Sí


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[marinello59]

So if hibs had played GSTK you would have been a wannabe? What happened today was nothing to do with green brigade etc just a brief opinion on todays events from average fans imho.

Nope. I would have been reacting to something our club had imposed on us. They didn’t. The football was a chance to get away from all of that.
I’m not so sure the average fan thinks singing Lizzie in a box is acceptable political comment but if block seven says it is…………

[Islington Hibs]

I took my son to the game yesterday having watched the coronation in the morning. To be honest I was concerned a minority would makes fools of themselves and spoil the reputation of the club, just as Celtic have in the past and Liverpool did yesterday.

I have no issue at all with a range of views on the coronation from good, bad or ugly but football is about football and political views should be irrelevant and certainly not focused on at Easter Road..Thankfully it was a positive game with no political focus.

[chippy]

Well done the Block7 guys, fully support that and you certainly spoke for me.

I was never a fan of our fans getting political. But when you see that the leaders of the 'Republic' organisation were arrested in London this morning before getting the chance to join the peaceful and entirely lawful demonstration they had organised then perhaps we bloody well should ... You can't stand by and watch actions that amounted to nothing less than those of a police state and exempt anything as a means of protest and that includes the football.

The laws used to silence these guys do not as yet apply in Scotland ... but given Westminster's determination to stamp over any devolved competencies, how long until that does include the law and our right to peaceful protest is crushed, as is already happening in England.

If our fans getting 'political' equates to standing up for folks right to social justice and to peacefully protest and demonstrate then I'm all for it.

Excellent post again

[chippy]

A coming of age for Block 7 who seemed to speak for the majority of Hibs fans in the stadium given the loud applause and subsequent singing.

A wee shot across the bows as well to the USA owners and English management that the supporters have a voice and will still be here long after they have departed.

All the reincarnations of Hibs supporters groups from Capital Greens, Since 1875 and now Block 7 have been a breath of fresh air over the last 10 years.

The laughable argument that political protests "shouldnae be allowed" or its "copying the Celtic" is a complete cop out as what you really mean is that its something you disagree with but haven't got the guts to argue your point so you hide behind a smokescreen.

This

[theonlywayisup]

Off to the Holy Ground to this thread should go to fulfill its full Wolfie Smith potential.

Agree - it's got nothing to do with Hibernian FC nor football in general.

[Colr]

So the rebel hoards so far are:

Celtic
Hibs
Liverpool
Dundee United


The Irish lot then!!! LOL!

[marinello59]

A coming of age for Block 7 who seemed to speak for the majority of Hibs fans in the stadium given the loud applause and subsequent singing.

A wee shot across the bows as well to the USA owners and English management that the supporters have a voice and will still be here long after they have departed.

All the reincarnations of Hibs supporters groups from Capital Greens, Since 1875 and now Block 7 have been a breath of fresh air over the last 10 years.

The laughable argument that political protests "shouldnae be allowed" or its "copying the Celtic" is a complete cop out as what you really mean is that its something you disagree with but haven't got the guts to argue your point so you hide behind a smokescreen.

Our USA owners and English management? I’m genuinely confused as to what their nationality has to do with anything. Or what message block seven were sending them.

[DarrenSQH]

Well done block 7. Standing up for what this club was created for. Millions living in poverty and someone chosen by God at birth to be better than us riding around in golden carriages.

The people who say keep politics out of football remind me of those who tell Rashford to stick to football or those that have a go at Kaepernick in America.

[Dashing Bob S]

So the rebel hoards so far are:

Celtic
Hibs
Liverpool
Dundee United


The Irish lot then!!! LOL!

Liverpool were formed by a Tory councillor and Everton were traditionally the Merseyside team supported by Irish immigrants. I'm sure glory hunting has changed that though.

[scm70nyd1973]

Our USA owners and English management? I’m genuinely confused as to what their nationality has to do with anything. Or what message block seven were sending them.

If it was pro or anti the Coronation it would still be an embarrassment to our Club - correct me if I am wrong but we are a football club - I say leave politics and religion etc etc out of our football club and just support the club to avoid division/derision or we will start to lose fans and attract the wrong types - we will then be the 3rd ugly sister. Yes I expect abuse now that I’ve said this but that would just say it all - over and out for today.

[DIXIHIBS]

I rather think ‘Republican’ Humza brought himself into the debate when he turned up at the Abbey in fancy dress. Close call as to who moved us closer to a republic today, some people chanting at Easter Road or the SNP First Minister doffing cap at the coronation and giving it ‘God save the King’. At least he hasn’t turned up in the posh seats at Wimbledon. Yet.

Didnt realise Humza posted on hibs.net but there you go...

[DIXIHIBS]

Nope. I would have been reacting to something our club had imposed on us. They didn’t. The football was a chance to get away from all of that.
I’m not so sure the average fan thinks singing Lizzie in a box is acceptable political comment but if block seven says it is…………

No i didnt think lizzie in a box was acceptable but i did think stuff yer coronation was...and going by yesterday most fans thought the same. Most fans can also think and act for themselves not just follow block 7 as you seem to be saying.

[Chuck Rhoades]

Loudest song of the day!

Which in one hand is frustrating that our support has become so flat. Location of Block 7 as the main contributor doesn’t help being stuck in a corner next to away end.

[JimBHibees]

No i didnt think lizzie in a box was acceptable but i did think stuff yer coronation was...and going by yesterday most fans thought the same. Most fans can also think and act for themselves not just follow block 7 as you seem to be saying.

Agree with that didn’t really have an issue with the coronation stuff but no need imo for Lizzie song.

[Billy Whizz]

Well done block 7. Standing up for what this club was created for. Millions living in poverty and someone chosen by God at birth to be better than us riding around in golden carriages.

The people who say keep politics out of football remind me of those who tell Rashford to stick to football or those that have a go at Kaepernick in America.

Sorry what did they do yesterday. I sit in the East but can’t see them from my seat

[danhibees1875]

Me as well. I don’t often join in with the signing now but I enjoyed that today.

If there were any royalists today I hope they hated it.

(FWIW I didn’t like the lizzy in a box continuation of the song, that’s not for me but hey ho each to their own)

You hope fellow hibs fans hated a part of their day out watching hibs just because they happen to like something nonfootball related that you don't? Seems a bit much to me.

I'm not too fussed for the concept of a monarchy, it's obviously outdated and the hereditary privilege is wrong but it's also traditional and a bit of fun to a lot of people so I'm equally happy just leaving it be. I don't think there's any place for it at the football and booing and singing would have made sense if any of the coronation stuff had been forced into the game, but it wasn't.

It felt a bit contrived and celtic-y. But I brought a friend to the game and predicted it would be sung within 5 minutes and it was bang on the 5 minute mark so felt a bit smug with the timing at least. :greengrin

[H113EE5]

If Hibs had chosen to play the National Anthem I would have joined in with the chants. They didn’t so what did it have to do with the game? Any moral high ground was lost with the Lizzies in a Box chant. Pathetic Green Brigade wannabe stuff.

Exactly. :thumbsup: Said this on the match update thread.

[jakeshibs]

Well done the Block7 guys, fully support that and you certainly spoke for me.

I was never a fan of our fans getting political. But when you see that the leaders of the 'Republic' organisation were arrested in London this morning before getting the chance to join the peaceful and entirely lawful demonstration they had organised then perhaps we bloody well should ... You can't stand by and watch actions that amounted to nothing less than those of a police state and exempt anything as a means of protest and that includes the football.

The laws used to silence these guys do not as yet apply in Scotland ... but given Westminster's determination to stamp over any devolved competencies, how long until that does include the law and our right to peaceful protest is crushed, as is already happening in England.

If our fans getting 'political' equates to standing up for folks right to social justice and to peacefully protest and demonstrate then I'm all for it.

Sorry not for me, stick to supporting hibs, leave politics at the door.
we are a scottish club

[jakeshibs]

Well done block 7. Standing up for what this club was created for. Millions living in poverty and someone chosen by God at birth to be better than us riding around in golden carriages.

The people who say keep politics out of football remind me of those who tell Rashford to stick to football or those that have a go at Kaepernick in America.

Sorry but disagree with your comments, we had the Monarchy when the club was formed and its part of our history.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Sorry not for me, stick to supporting hibs, leave politics at the door.
we are a scottish club

generally I agree with you.

I also think the club should always stick to football rather than tweeting condolences when a Royal dies.

[Jones28]

Quite obvious from the replies that we have a range of views across the spectrum and that should be something to be proud of as a club. A place where all are welcome, none are discriminated against and views, whilst disagreed with, are respected. That’s the best thing about Hibs for me.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Sorry but disagree with your comments, we had the Monarchy when the club was formed and its part of our history.

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[LewysGot2]

Agree with that didn’t really have an issue with the coronation stuff but no need imo for Lizzie song.

It was so obvious that the engagement with the Coronation song was fairly widespread. As soon as the Lizzie thing started that wider engagement went.

[JimBHibees]

It was so obvious that the engagement with the Coronation song was fairly widespread. As soon as the Lizzie thing started that wider engagement went.

Agree.

[Jack]

We once had a crown on our badge!

I suspect we went in the crown huff when it was demanded by the powers that be, Lord Lyon, that it was removed and not used in any badge going forward.

If we're not worthy of a crown the crown is not worthy of us.

[Pagan Hibernia]

We once had a crown on our badge!

I suspect we went in the crown huff when it was demanded by the powers that be, Lord Lyon, that it was removed and not used in any badge going forward.

If we're not worthy of a crown the crown is not worthy of us.

on a slight tangent that crown badge is the worst one we’ve ever had! Even worse than Duff’s awful Saturn effort

[J-C]

I loved watching multi national teams like Liverpool etc standing for an anthem that's sod all to do with 70% of the players playing. Anthems should be kept to International football and nothing to do with league games.

[He's here!]

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Kevin Williamson
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Easter Rd message to the Royal parasites #GGTTH pic.twitter.com/ta3yzv3CzX

So that’s Celtic and Hibs speaking as the voice of the people.

Anyone else? Would expect the same sympathies from Liverpool bit are all other clubs supported by toadying simps?

'Voice of the people'...what a load of p**h. I enjoyed both the Coronation and the Hibs win.

[The Spaceman]

No place in a football stadium. We are there to cheer our 11 men against another 11 men in kicking a ball into the net. Very Green Brigade. Keep your politics at home (whichever side of the matter you sit on).

[chippy]

Sorry but disagree with your comments, we had the Monarchy when the club was formed and part of our history.

You can align yourself with that crap if you wish but don’t include me or the hundreds of Hibs fans I know that also oppose it. it’s also part of our clubs history that Hibs were very much in favour of Irish Home Rule until it happened( partially anyway)

[Logie Green]

Sorry but disagree with your comments, we had the Monarchy when the club was formed and its part of our history.

We had poor people when our club was formed too. They also got a mention in the Block 7 banner.

[One Day Soon]

Our USA owners and English management? I’m genuinely confused as to what their nationality has to do with anything. Or what message block seven were sending them.

You’d think Americans would be republicans? I don’t know what Lee Johnson’s formal position is on the constitutional structure of the UK, the correct protocols for conducting a coronation or indeed transport arrangements for such a ceremony but I’m willing to bet the club will have our new Director of Football straight onto it. The powers that be must surely be aware that if this message is not heeded then the next message could easily be a strongly worded open letter. They may not listen to us on signings but they will soon be taking heed of how we influence the installation of a UK Head of State which we can surely all agree will strengthen our approach to the League Cup next season?

Nonetheless Block 7 have selflessly done the nation a favour by confirming the location of the former monarch, which if we are all honest we can admit had become a matter of some confusion. Now we know. While issuing guidance as to where coronations should in future take place was clearly intended to be helpful advice, it’s not at all clear in practical terms that the coaches, horses and all the King’s men (including fancy-dress Humza) could fit up there.

Let us be clear, none of this has anything to do with copycatting the plastics for kicks.

[One Day Soon]

on a slight tangent that crown badge is the worst one we’ve ever had! Even worse than Duff’s awful Saturn effort

True dat.

[Logie Green]

No place in a football stadium. We are there to cheer our 11 men against another 11 men in kicking a ball into the net. Very Green Brigade. Keep your politics at home (whichever side of the matter you sit on).

Does that mean we won’t have to observe silences for things which have nothing to do with Hibs or football?

If someone could provide a list of what we can and can’t talk/sing/shout about in football grounds it would be helpful.

[greenlex]

You’d think Americans would be republicans? I don’t know what Lee Johnson’s formal position is on the constitutional structure of the UK, the correct protocols for conducting a coronation or indeed transport arrangements for such a ceremony but I’m willing to bet the club will have our new Director of Football straight onto it. The powers that be must surely be aware that if this message is not heeded then the next message could easily be a strongly worded open letter. They may not listen to us on signings but they will soon be taking heed of how we influence the installation of a UK Head of State which we can surely all agree will strengthen our approach to the League Cup next season?

Nonetheless Block 7 have selflessly done the nation a favour by confirming the location of the former monarch, which if we are all honest we can admit had become a matter of some confusion. Now we know. While issuing guidance as to where coronations should in future take place was clearly intended to be helpful advice, it’s not at all clear in practical terms that the coaches, horses and all the King’s men (including fancy-dress Humza) could fit up there.

Let us be clear, none of this has anything to do with copycatting the plastics for kicks.
:greengrin

[Johnny Clash]

Sorry not for me, stick to supporting hibs, leave politics at the door.
we are a scottish club if politics had been ‘left at the door’ in 1875 there would be no Hibs.

[greenlex]

I do like a wee bit coronation chicken.

[GreenGray]

No place in a football stadium. We are there to cheer our 11 men against another 11 men in kicking a ball into the net. Very Green Brigade. Keep your politics at home (whichever side of the matter you sit on).

Sports and politics will always be linked, particularly football.

If you don’t make your opinion known what are you?


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[Ringothedog]

Does that mean we won’t have to observe silences for things which have nothing to do with Hibs or football?

If someone could provide a list of what we can and can’t talk/sing/shout about in football grounds it would be helpful.

The Conservative party are more than likely compiling that list at the moment. Our right to protest will only continue if it suits the Police and the current UK government. If they don’t agree you will be arrested. Welcome to a police state

[The Spaceman]

Sports and politics will always be linked, particularly football.

If you don’t make your opinion known what are you?


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A football fan.

[Bristolhibby]

Politics and football have been inexorably linked since day 1.

Our own club was formed because of the systemic societal and political prejudice against Catholics.

Setting up an inclusive football club for that community was absolutely a political statement. The founding fathers fought tooth and nail just to play football.

Those saying football and politics don’t mix need to “know their history”.

J

[danhibees1875]

I do like a wee bit coronation chicken.

That's something to be annoyed about, they don't seem to have invented a sandwich filling this time around...

[GreenGray]

A football fan.

Football fans have always let their opinions be heard on politics, I’d much rather make a stand or point than do nothing.


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[Moulin Yarns]

Always remember that the crowd that applaud your coronation is the same crowd that will applaud your beheading. People love a good show!

Terry pratchett is right.

[marinello59]

You’d think Americans would be republicans? I don’t know what Lee Johnson’s formal position is on the constitutional structure of the UK, the correct protocols for conducting a coronation or indeed transport arrangements for such a ceremony but I’m willing to bet the club will have our new Director of Football straight onto it. The powers that be must surely be aware that if this message is not heeded then the next message could easily be a strongly worded open letter. They may not listen to us on signings but they will soon be taking heed of how we influence the installation of a UK Head of State which we can surely all agree will strengthen our approach to the League Cup next season?

Nonetheless Block 7 have selflessly done the nation a favour by confirming the location of the former monarch, which if we are all honest we can admit had become a matter of some confusion. Now we know. While issuing guidance as to where coronations should in future take place was clearly intended to be helpful advice, it’s not at all clear in practical terms that the coaches, horses and all the King’s men (including fancy-dress Humza) could fit up there.

Let us be clear, none of this has anything to do with copycatting the plastics for kicks.

:greengrin

[Bristolhibby]

Always remember that the crowd that applaud your coronation is the same crowd that will applaud your beheading. People love a good show!

Terry pratchett is right.

He’s right on so many things. RIP.

J

[Pagan Hibernia]

Always remember that the crowd that applaud your coronation is the same crowd that will applaud your beheading. People love a good show!

Terry pratchett is right.

so true. Mob/pack mentality

[StirlingHibee]

They speak for the majority of our support, but not for all of us. It was pathetic (particularly the reference to the former queen). However, they are absolutely entitled to shout their opinions, as I am entitled to say it was pathetic.

[GreenGray]

They speak for the majority of our support, but not for all of us. It was pathetic (particularly the reference to the former queen). However, they are absolutely entitled to shout their opinions, as I am entitled to say it was pathetic.

As pathetic as the coronation itself?


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[Jay]

That's something to be annoyed about, they don't seem to have invented a sandwich filling this time around...


It was a spinach quiche this time :greengrin

[OstKurve Hibs]

Well done block 7 for the display yday and all who made there feelings known with regards to the royal parasites.

[Hibbyradge]

I saw a picture of the display yesterday but I can't find it now.

Does anyone have a copy?

[SHODAN]

No place in a football stadium. We are there to cheer our 11 men against another 11 men in kicking a ball into the net. Very Green Brigade. Keep your politics at home (whichever side of the matter you sit on).

Deliberately being apolitical is in itself a political act.

[hibby rae]

Sports and politics will always be linked, particularly football.

If you don’t make your opinion known what are you?


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Absolutely, politics impacts every aspect of life, including football.

Just some examples, the government's handling of the cost of living crisis directly impacts the supporters of the club, in turn this impacts how much revenue the club receives. It also impacts the running costs of the club. The withdrawal from the EU impacts the club in terms of who can and can't be signed by the club, it's also resulted in English clubs hoovering up the most talented young players, most likely before clubs can get a decent amount for them.

The first example ties in to the point being made by Block 7, the amount spent on it when more and more are driven into poverty, no doubt many Hibs supporters among them, is deplorable and a shining example of the ingrained inequality in the country.

[Lancs Harp]

This thread has stirred up the emotions!
Coronation isnt my cup of tea and my leanings for what its worth are more "not my king". I took the opportunity to visit the local retail park during the event thinking it might be quieter than normal but it wasnt really. Visited 2 pubs, firstly the towns Irish bar where i was sure they woukdnt be showing it. I was right and a plus had a great collection of Jam videos playing. Win win. Got a call from a mate who was in a bar jyst down the road so joined him for a pint, bar was decked out in red white and blue and was quite busy but the 3 tvs were all showing Sky Sports.
As Liverpool showed last night English support for the monarchy is far from universal.

Mon the Hibs. Our strength is our diversity.

[Hibbyradge]

I spent yesterday morning on the train to Edinburgh from York followed by 90 minutes in the Artisan.

If it hadn't been for the Block 7 chants, I wouldn't have remembered the ridiculous event occurring in London.

[Islington Hibs]

I was glad to see the banners and hear the chants go round and also relieved the club did nothing to mark the coronation. I took a risk and joined in so hopefully the police don't have a video as it seems any type of protest or in deed thought of protest is unlawful these days. It appears the country is morally, democratically and fiscally bankrupt these days. Our club, through the Foundation, helps feed many in the community on a weekly basis and it is ridiculous that money is being spent on a coronation when citizens are freezing and starving.



Really?

Britain spends more on welfare than almost any nation on earth. £279bn last year or over £10000 for every family in the land, not exactly a small sum.

The minimum wage in Britain is the highest of any major country in Europe. Only Luxembourg has a slightly higher minimum.

Unemployment is the lowest since the 1970’s and the number working at 32 million has never been higher.

On every measure most ( not all I accept) are better off than every before- eating out, car ownership, foreign holidays etc etc. Edinburgh is booming- massive population growth and almost zero unemployment of those who seek work.

Fact a higher proportion of the nation (18% according to the office of national statistics) have assets over over £1m than have less than £20k in assets ) 14% of the population. Average wealth per household in the UK is just under £300k

The debate is delusional- the vast majority have never had it so good hence Easter Road is as packed as any time in my life at £26 an adult ticket!

I actually not too fussed about the Coronation either way but it cost sixpence relative to the utter waste of Government in other areas and will pay back 50 fold in tourism, marketing designer brands, image, reputation etc.

The reason socialists keep losing (and will lose the next election as well probably despite current polls) is the media debate focuses on what is wrong and the problems of a small minority who already are very generously catered for by the welfare state when the reality is just so much more rosey for the vast majority!

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Really?

Britain spends more on welfare than almost any nation on earth. £279bn last year or over £10000 for every family in the land, not exactly a small sum.

The minimum wage in Britain is the highest of any major country in Europe. Only Luxembourg has a slightly higher minimum.

Unemployment is the lowest since the 1970’s and the number working at 32 million has never been higher.

On every measure most ( not all I accept) are better off than every before- eating out, car ownership, foreign holidays etc etc. Edinburgh is booming- massive population growth and almost zero unemployment of those who seek work.

Fact a higher proportion of the nation (18% according to the office of national statistics) have assets over over £1m than have less than £20k in assets ) 14% of the population. Average wealth per household in the UK is just under £300k

The debate is delusional- the vast majority have never had it so good hence Easter Road is as packed as any time in my life at £26 an adult ticket!

I actually not too fussed about the Coronation either way but it cost sixpence relative to the utter waste of Government in other areas and will pay back 50 fold in tourism, marketing designer brands, image, reputation etc.

The reason socialists keep losing (and will lose the next election as well probably despite current polls) is the media debate focuses on what is wrong and the problems of a small minority who already are very generously catered for by the welfare state when the reality is just so much more rosey for the vast majority!

That's not the sort of thing you hear in The Shakespeare's Head! 😉

[BegbieHSC]

The Independent are reporting on it. Needless to say, there’s a few bites in the comment section from dyed in the wool royalists…

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02t9BbvDDyLh3ZiLJxKZyfjW XRAgY3wcuqxQeUHJZVQT8h8EAw8QXfqBvZQUZxN9LZl&id=100064380085957 (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02t9BbvDDyLh3ZiLJxKZyfjW XRAgY3wcuqxQeUHJZVQT8h8EAw8QXfqBvZQUZxN9LZl&id=100064380085957)

[Phil MaGlass]

FTK and FT coronation, family of over privileged leeches of the worst kind. A Billionaire expecting us serfs to doff a cap and bend a knee, (maybe if I was a daily mail reader) can all go do one, well done Hiba fans for speaking for me. Our nation is struggling due to a foreign govt pulling us out of the EU liz f,n truss and kwarteng ah think his name was, costing us kajillions. The uk has one of the lowest pensions in Europe, pensioners struggling to feed and heat themselves, disabled being forced means tested, peaceful demonstrators being banged up by a POLICE STATE. The VAST MAJORITY have never ever had it so good, because they never had it good, what a load of pi5h. Unemployments low in almost every country in Europe, its got F,all to do with this bunch of lying, foreign, ba5tard govt. Its due to the fact the english dragged us out of the EU and most foreign workers had to leave, meaning there were job shortages all over the uk, hospitals struggling as theres not enough doctors or nurses. No 50 hospitals were built, there was no mega windfall from leaving the EU, wasnt it on the side of a bus that wed be 750 million better off a week or something like that. Now Scotlands struggling to sell their goods abroad, Scottish farmers and fishermen have been royally shafted but were all supposed to be thankful for a (failing) welfare state, aye on yir bike.

[BegbieHSC]

Good clip here for anyone who missed it:

https://twitter.com/williamsonkev/status/1654850967886594051?s=46&t=uwBtvnvH7IM-mhAA3NxihA

[Lancs Harp]

FTK and FT coronation, family of over privileged leeches of the worst kind. A Billionaire expecting us serfs to doff a cap and bend a knee, (maybe if I was a daily mail reader) can all go do one, well done Hiba fans for speaking for me. Our nation is struggling due to a foreign govt pulling us out of the EU liz f,n truss and kwarteng ah think his name was, costing us kajillions. The uk has one of the lowest pensions in Europe, pensioners struggling to feed and heat themselves, disabled being forced means tested, peaceful demonstrators being banged up by a POLICE STATE. The VAST MAJORITY have never ever had it so good, because they never had it good, what a load of pi5h. Unemployments low in almost every country in Europe, its got F,all to do with this bunch of lying, foreign, ba5tard govt. Its due to the fact the english dragged us out of the EU and most foreign workers had to leave, meaning there were job shortages all over the uk, hospitals struggling as theres not enough doctors or nurses. No 50 hospitals were built, there was no mega windfall from leaving the EU, wasnt it on the side of a bus that wed be 750 million better off a week or something like that. Now Scotlands struggling to sell their goods abroad, Scottish farmers and fishermen have been royally shafted but were all supposed to be thankful for a (failing) welfare state, aye on yir bike.

Aye but are you in favour of tge monarchy Phil. Dont stand on the fence now :)

[Just Alf]

Really?

Britain spends more on welfare than almost any nation on earth. £279bn last year or over £10000 for every family in the land, not exactly a small sum.


Unemployment is the lowest since the 1970’s and the number working at 32 million has never been higher.





I actually not too fussed about the Coronation either way but it cost sixpence relative to the utter waste of Government in other areas and will pay back 50 fold in tourism, marketing designer brands, image, reputation etc.

!

These two paragraphs I've quoted...

Just think about that for a mo.


It's a great example of how using averages to show performance isn't great.

What you're saying there is that the UK is clearly skewed in favour of the rich.




On your last paragraph, I wasn't bothered one way or another for the monarchy but I do tend to agree with you the "UK brand " will very much benefit out of it. (IMHO of course:greengrin )

[Kato]

Really?

Britain spends more on welfare than almost any nation on earth. £279bn last year or over £10000 for every family in the land, not exactly a small sum.

The minimum wage in Britain is the highest of any major country in Europe. Only Luxembourg has a slightly higher minimum.

Unemployment is the lowest since the 1970’s and the number working at 32 million has never been higher.

On every measure most ( not all I accept) are better off than every before- eating out, car ownership, foreign holidays etc etc. Edinburgh is booming- massive population growth and almost zero unemployment of those who seek work.

Fact a higher proportion of the nation (18% according to the office of national statistics) have assets over over £1m than have less than £20k in assets ) 14% of the population. Average wealth per household in the UK is just under £300k

The debate is delusional- the vast majority have never had it so good hence Easter Road is as packed as any time in my life at £26 an adult ticket!

I actually not too fussed about the Coronation either way but it cost sixpence relative to the utter waste of Government in other areas and will pay back 50 fold in tourism, marketing designer brands, image, reputation etc.

The reason socialists keep losing (and will lose the next election as well probably despite current polls) is the media debate focuses on what is wrong and the problems of a small minority who already are very generously catered for by the welfare state when the reality is just so much more rosey for the vast majority!Yeah, everything is just tickity boo, if it wasn't for those nasty media types always focusing on the poor we'd all be better off....

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[One Day Soon]

FTK and FT coronation, family of over privileged leeches of the worst kind. A Billionaire expecting us serfs to doff a cap and bend a knee, (maybe if I was a daily mail reader) can all go do one, well done Hiba fans for speaking for me. Our nation is struggling due to a foreign govt pulling us out of the EU liz f,n truss and kwarteng ah think his name was, costing us kajillions. The uk has one of the lowest pensions in Europe, pensioners struggling to feed and heat themselves, disabled being forced means tested, peaceful demonstrators being banged up by a POLICE STATE. The VAST MAJORITY have never ever had it so good, because they never had it good, what a load of pi5h. Unemployments low in almost every country in Europe, its got F,all to do with this bunch of lying, foreign, ba5tard govt. Its due to the fact the english dragged us out of the EU and most foreign workers had to leave, meaning there were job shortages all over the uk, hospitals struggling as theres not enough doctors or nurses. No 50 hospitals were built, there was no mega windfall from leaving the EU, wasnt it on the side of a bus that wed be 750 million better off a week or something like that. Now Scotlands struggling to sell their goods abroad, Scottish farmers and fishermen have been royally shafted but were all supposed to be thankful for a (failing) welfare state, aye on yir bike.

‘foreign Govt’, ‘foreign ba5tard govt’, the English’. Absolutely rank chat.

[Moulin Yarns]

Still, Humza seemed to enjoy himself getting into fancy dress.

He and his wife looked stunning in the tartan.

[Eyrie]

I presume all those in favour of political posturing at football matches will have no issue with the Sevco support doing likewise today.

Personally I get enough politics in real life so prefer my football to be a way to switch off in the company of fellow Hibs fans regardless of their political views. There's enough bitter division in the world being caused by politicians of all colours as it is. Why make fellow Hibs fans feel unwelcome at Easter Road simply because they're pro-anti monarchy/independence/whatever? A very good reason why I stay off the Holy Ground forum.

As regards the Coronation, the only impact it's had on me is to make reading the news a vey quick process as I simply ignore anything about it.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Quietly confident we'll hear GSTK pre match at Tynecastle, should be an interesting atmosphere.

[blackpoolhibs]

If Hibs had chosen to play the National Anthem I would have joined in with the chants. They didn’t so what did it have to do with the game? Any moral high ground was lost with the Lizzies in a Box chant. Pathetic Green Brigade wannabe stuff.
:top marks

[Victor]

‘foreign Govt’, ‘foreign ba5tard govt’, the English’. Absolutely rank chat.

He may have been a bit OTT in his claims, but Phil is technically correct. If it wasn’t for English voters, we wouldn’t have a Tory Government and we would still be in Europe. The floating voter down there is the problem.


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[Lancs Harp]

God save King Pat. King of Easter Road.

[B.H.F.C]

Quietly confident we'll hear GSTK pre match at Tynecastle, should be an interesting atmosphere.

Would actually be quite amusing just to see the reaction of the Celtic supporters.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Would actually be quite amusing just to see the reaction of the Celtic supporters.

That's why I'm confident it'll be played. Rope a dope personified. 😀

[chippy]

I presume all those in favour of political posturing at football matches will have no issue with the Sevco support doing likewise today.

Personally I get enough politics in real life so prefer my football to be a way to switch off in the company of fellow Hibs fans regardless of their political views. There's enough bitter division in the world being caused by politicians of all colours as it is. Why make fellow Hibs fans feel unwelcome at Easter Road simply because they're pro-anti monarchy/independence/whatever? A very good reason why I stay off the Holy Ground forum.

As regards the Coronation, the only impact it's had on me is to make reading the news a vey quick process as I simply ignore anything about it.

You mean racism and bigotry on display from the Ibrox hordes not politics surely? You’re not trying to equate a secular political protest with racism and religious bigotry are you?

[Colr]

I do like a wee bit coronation chicken.

Or some Chicken a la King

Or Regent’s Pork

[Scouse Hibee]

I took my son to the game yesterday having watched the coronation in the morning. To be honest I was concerned a minority would makes fools of themselves and spoil the reputation of the club, just as Celtic have in the past and Liverpool did yesterday.

I have no issue at all with a range of views on the coronation from good, bad or ugly but football is about football and political views should be irrelevant and certainly not focused on at Easter Road..Thankfully it was a positive game with no political focus.

It’s got absolutely nothing to do with the reputation of the clubs, the supporters use the occasion to voice their disapproval not the clubs. Liverpool already has a King anyway, his name is Kenny.

[One Day Soon]

He may have been a bit OTT in his claims, but Phil is technically correct. If it wasn’t for English voters, we wouldn’t have a Tory Government and we would still be in Europe. The floating voter down there is the problem.


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Over a million Scots voted for Brexit. Without them and the 770,000 Welsh who supported it there would have been no Brexit majority. Idiots and not English.

[hibby rae]

Over a million Scots voted for Brexit. Without them and the 770,000 Welsh who supported it there would have been no Brexit majority. Idiots and not English.

Actually research suggests the Welsh Brexit vote was a result of English voters living there

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/sep/22/english-people-wales-brexit-research

[silverhibee]

That's why I'm confident it'll be played. Rope a dope personified. ��

KO 2.15 Sky starting at 2.10, we won’t get to hear much before the game starts.

Sky seem to be blocking out any noise so far.

[TrumpIsAPeado]

Britain spends more on welfare than almost any nation on earth. £279bn last year or over £10000 for every family in the land, not exactly a small sum.

Except it's not "£10000 for every family in the land". You're playing with averages here. The royal family alone claimed £86,000,000 in welfare last year. That's a whole lot of families not getting their 10k.


The minimum wage in Britain is the highest of any major country in Europe. Only Luxembourg has a slightly higher minimum.

How does the minimum wage in the UK relative to the cost of living compare to other major European countries? I would hazard a bet that it doesn't stack up particularly well.


Unemployment is the lowest since the 1970’s and the number working at 32 million has never been higher.

Yep, that reads great on the surface until you actually delve into the details of what "employment" actually means in the UK. Which includes "back to work" schemes where companies are exploiting free labour from people forced back into work, not for minimum wage, but for their benefits.


On every measure most ( not all I accept) are better off than every before- eating out, car ownership, foreign holidays etc etc. Edinburgh is booming- massive population growth and almost zero unemployment of those who seek work.

Until you get into the actual details of these "measures" to see what they really mean. People are seeking and accepting poorly paid work and conditions out of desperation due to a cost of living crisis, not because these jobs are in anyway satisfying or allow them to live comfortably. Those living pay-cheque to pay-cheque on minimum wage are not going off on foreign holidays, they drive as little as possible due to the cost of fuel, if by "eating out" you mean going to foodbanks, then you'd be right. "Growth" isn't everything. It just means the pie itself is getting bigger, while the tiny slice afforded to millions of us either remains the same size or shrinks down even further.


Fact a higher proportion of the nation (18% according to the office of national statistics) have assets over over £1m than have less than £20k in assets ) 14% of the population. Average wealth per household in the UK is just under £300k

That's not surprising considering how high inflation is. Just because the monetary value of assets goes up, doesn't mean that the value has gone up in real terms. When everything else is going up in cost, the rising value of assets becomes a meaningless statistic.


The debate is delusional- the vast majority have never had it so good hence Easter Road is as packed as any time in my life at £26 an adult ticket!

Easter Road is packed because people have less things to do elsewhere. Many companies have gone to the wall, there are less available services as a result. Pointing out the cost of a ticket is also irrelevant, as you have to factor in it's cost relative to inflation.


I actually not too fussed about the Coronation either way but it cost sixpence relative to the utter waste of Government in other areas and will pay back 50 fold in tourism, marketing designer brands, image, reputation etc.

Of course you're not. It's easy not to be "too fussed" about somebody riding around in their multi-million pound carriage with their multi-million pound crown when you're one of the better offs.


The reason socialists keep losing (and will lose the next election as well probably despite current polls) is the media debate focuses on what is wrong and the problems of a small minority who already are very generously catered for by the welfare state when the reality is just so much more rosey for the vast majority!

Socialism isn't even on the table and hasn't been on the table for many decades. If you consider Keir Starmer a "socialist", then it just goes to show how far to the right your politics are. Which isn't surprising considering all of the drivel in your post.

[Dashing Bob S]

You’d think Americans would be republicans? I don’t know what Lee Johnson’s formal position is on the constitutional structure of the UK, the correct protocols for conducting a coronation or indeed transport arrangements for such a ceremony but I’m willing to bet the club will have our new Director of Football straight onto it. The powers that be must surely be aware that if this message is not heeded then the next message could easily be a strongly worded open letter. They may not listen to us on signings but they will soon be taking heed of how we influence the installation of a UK Head of State which we can surely all agree will strengthen our approach to the League Cup next season?

Nonetheless Block 7 have selflessly done the nation a favour by confirming the location of the former monarch, which if we are all honest we can admit had become a matter of some confusion. Now we know. While issuing guidance as to where coronations should in future take place was clearly intended to be helpful advice, it’s not at all clear in practical terms that the coaches, horses and all the King’s men (including fancy-dress Humza) could fit up there.

Let us be clear, none of this has anything to do with copycatting the plastics for kicks.

I’ve also noticed the deafening silence from Johnson on the issue of constitutional affairs. This is highly unsatisfactory to our fan base and frankly, an embarrassment to the club. He should be held to account on this issue.

[hibby rae]

Except it's not "£10000 for every family in the land". You're playing with averages here. The royal family alone claimed £86,000,000 in welfare last year. That's a whole lot of families not getting their 10k.



How does the minimum wage in the UK relative to the cost of living compare to other major European countries? I would hazard a bet that it doesn't stack up particularly well.



Yep, that reads great on the surface until you actually delve into the details of what "employment" actually means in the UK. Which includes "back to work" schemes where companies are exploiting free labour from people forced back into work, not for minimum wage, but for their benefits.



Until you get into the actual details of these "measures" to see what they really mean. People are seeking and accepting poorly paid work and conditions out of desperation due to a cost of living crisis, not because these jobs are in anyway satisfying or allow them to live comfortably. Those living pay-cheque to pay-cheque on minimum wage are not going off on foreign holidays, they drive as little as possible due to the cost of fuel, if by "eating out" you mean going to foodbanks, then you'd be right. "Growth" isn't everything. It just means the pie itself is getting bigger, while the tiny slice afforded to millions of us either remains the same size or shrinks down even further.



That's not surprising considering how high inflation is. Just because the monetary value of assets goes up, doesn't mean that the value has gone up in real terms. When everything else is going up in cost, the rising value of assets becomes a meaningless statistic.



Easter Road is packed because people have less things to do elsewhere. Many companies have gone to the wall, there are less available services as a result. Pointing out the cost of a ticket is also irrelevant, as you have to factor in it's cost relative to inflation.



Of course you're not. It's easy not to be "too fussed" about somebody riding around in their multi-million pound carriage with their multi-million pound crown when you're one of the better offs.



Socialism isn't even on the table and hasn't been on the table for many decades. If you consider Keir Starmer a "socialist", then it just goes to show how far to the right your politics are. Which isn't surprising considering all of the drivel in your post.

*Mic drop

[Victor]

Over a million Scots voted for Brexit. Without them and the 770,000 Welsh who supported it there would have been no Brexit majority. Idiots and not English.

I thought someone would mention the ‘Welsh’ but as someone else said a lot of the ‘Welsh’ ain’t Welsh. Likewise the million ‘Scot’s’, would imagine the majority were Rangers supporters and various other xénophobes, of that ilk.


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[One Day Soon]

I thought someone would mention the ‘Welsh’ but as someone else said a lot of the ‘Welsh’ ain’t Welsh. Likewise the million ‘Scot’s’, would imagine the majority were Rangers supporters and various other xénophobes, of that ilk.

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Aaaand, we’re into the ‘not real Scots’ argument. Othering-tastic.

[Victor]

Aaaand, we’re into the ‘not real Scots’ argument. Othering-tastic.

Eh?


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[lyonhibs]

A coming of age for Block 7 who seemed to speak for the majority of Hibs fans in the stadium given the loud applause and subsequent singing.

A wee shot across the bows as well to the USA owners and English management that the supporters have a voice and will still be here long after they have departed.

All the reincarnations of Hibs supporters groups from Capital Greens, Since 1875 and now Block 7 have been a breath of fresh air over the last 10 years.

The laughable argument that political protests "shouldnae be allowed" or its "copying the Celtic" is a complete cop out as what you really mean is that its something you disagree with but haven't got the guts to argue your point so you hide behind a smokescreen.

2nd paragraph is a load of pish, but otherwise spot on

"Lizzie's in a box" is poor and pointless, but **** the coronation indeed.

[O'Rourke3]

Really?


Unemployment is the lowest since the 1970’s and the number working at 32 million has never been higher.

On every measure most ( not all I accept) are better off than every before- eating out, car ownership, foreign holidays etc etc. Edinburgh is booming- massive population growth and almost zero unemployment of those who seek work.
!

You are confusing employment with wages good enough to support you and/or your family. No shifts on a zero hours contract still counts as employed. THere are millions who are employed and still need assistance.

[McD]

I thought someone would mention the ‘Welsh’ but as someone else said a lot of the ‘Welsh’ ain’t Welsh. Likewise the million ‘Scot’s’, would imagine the majority were Rangers supporters and various other xénophobes, of that ilk.


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it’s been covered on the forum before a few times, but a decent proportion of Scottish people who voted for brexit were/are also snp voters/members

[Greentinted]

Except it's not "£10000 for every family in the land". You're playing with averages here. The royal family alone claimed £86,000,000 in welfare last year. That's a whole lot of families not getting their 10k.



How does the minimum wage in the UK relative to the cost of living compare to other major European countries? I would hazard a bet that it doesn't stack up particularly well.



Yep, that reads great on the surface until you actually delve into the details of what "employment" actually means in the UK. Which includes "back to work" schemes where companies are exploiting free labour from people forced back into work, not for minimum wage, but for their benefits.



Until you get into the actual details of these "measures" to see what they really mean. People are seeking and accepting poorly paid work and conditions out of desperation due to a cost of living crisis, not because these jobs are in anyway satisfying or allow them to live comfortably. Those living pay-cheque to pay-cheque on minimum wage are not going off on foreign holidays, they drive as little as possible due to the cost of fuel, if by "eating out" you mean going to foodbanks, then you'd be right. "Growth" isn't everything. It just means the pie itself is getting bigger, while the tiny slice afforded to millions of us either remains the same size or shrinks down even further.



That's not surprising considering how high inflation is. Just because the monetary value of assets goes up, doesn't mean that the value has gone up in real terms. When everything else is going up in cost, the rising value of assets becomes a meaningless statistic.



Easter Road is packed because people have less things to do elsewhere. Many companies have gone to the wall, there are less available services as a result. Pointing out the cost of a ticket is also irrelevant, as you have to factor in it's cost relative to inflation.



Of course you're not. It's easy not to be "too fussed" about somebody riding around in their multi-million pound carriage with their multi-million pound crown when you're one of the better offs.



Socialism isn't even on the table and hasn't been on the table for many decades. If you consider Keir Starmer a "socialist", then it just goes to show how far to the right your politics are. Which isn't surprising considering all of the drivel in your post.

Telt.

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Except it's not "£10000 for every family in the land". You're playing with averages here. The royal family alone claimed £86,000,000 in welfare last year. That's a whole lot of families not getting their 10k.



How does the minimum wage in the UK relative to the cost of living compare to other major European countries? I would hazard a bet that it doesn't stack up particularly well.



Yep, that reads great on the surface until you actually delve into the details of what "employment" actually means in the UK. Which includes "back to work" schemes where companies are exploiting free labour from people forced back into work, not for minimum wage, but for their benefits.



Until you get into the actual details of these "measures" to see what they really mean. People are seeking and accepting poorly paid work and conditions out of desperation due to a cost of living crisis, not because these jobs are in anyway satisfying or allow them to live comfortably. Those living pay-cheque to pay-cheque on minimum wage are not going off on foreign holidays, they drive as little as possible due to the cost of fuel, if by "eating out" you mean going to foodbanks, then you'd be right. "Growth" isn't everything. It just means the pie itself is getting bigger, while the tiny slice afforded to millions of us either remains the same size or shrinks down even further.



That's not surprising considering how high inflation is. Just because the monetary value of assets goes up, doesn't mean that the value has gone up in real terms. When everything else is going up in cost, the rising value of assets becomes a meaningless statistic.



Easter Road is packed because people have less things to do elsewhere. Many companies have gone to the wall, there are less available services as a result. Pointing out the cost of a ticket is also irrelevant, as you have to factor in it's cost relative to inflation.



Of course you're not. It's easy not to be "too fussed" about somebody riding around in their multi-million pound carriage with their multi-million pound crown when you're one of the better offs.



Socialism isn't even on the table and hasn't been on the table for many decades. If you consider Keir Starmer a "socialist", then it just goes to show how far to the right your politics are. Which isn't surprising considering all of the drivel in your post.


This is by far and away the best reply I've ever read on the Holy Ground. :not worth

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This is by far and away the best reply I've ever read on the Holy Ground. :not worthYep, I'm finished on this thread now as I simply couldn't better it.

Respect.

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