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Hibs90
27-04-2023, 04:56 PM
Anyone know if this is happening or not?

Hibbyradge
27-04-2023, 05:10 PM
https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?361782-Director-of-football/page6

All the latest in there, but it's not much.

bingo70
27-04-2023, 10:05 PM
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-near-director-of-football-appointment-as-lee-johnson-spills-beans-on-very-strong-candidates-4122606

At the second interview stage and hoping to make an appointment by the summer.

Brightside
28-04-2023, 08:30 AM
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-near-director-of-football-appointment-as-lee-johnson-spills-beans-on-very-strong-candidates-4122606

At the second interview stage and hoping to make an appointment by the summer.

Some interesting mixed messages coming from the club on this.

bingo70
28-04-2023, 08:37 AM
Some interesting mixed messages coming from the club on this.

LJ is got a bit too much to say on the recruitment process and remit of the DoF I think. Ultimately the new DoF will be his boss, he was on a few weeks ago about how the new guy won’t be making massive changes and will just be adding to the existing infrastructure.

New DoF should have been in weeks ago to do a full review of what went wrong last summer, assess what’s needed and plant the necessary seeds to bring players in with their contacts.

IMO someone at the club doesn’t want a DoF, not sure if that’s BK (will a new DoF affect his significant bonus?) or LJ who maybe just wants to look after recruitment himself?

No way the recruitment process should be taking this long IMO.

Pretty Boy
28-04-2023, 08:44 AM
It's just getting a bit silly now.

We are going to be going into the summer window with either the same people responsible for the big decisions as in previous years or no one making them.

Even allowing for the difficult time endured by the club after RGs passing this should have been sorted weeks ago.

Alex Trager
28-04-2023, 08:45 AM
LJ is got a bit too much to say on the recruitment process and remit of the DoF I think. Ultimately the new DoF will be his boss, he was on a few weeks ago about how the new guy won’t be making massive changes and will just be adding to the existing infrastructure.

New DoF should have been in weeks ago to do a full review of what went wrong last summer, assess what’s needed and plant the necessary seeds to bring players in with their contacts.

IMO someone at the club doesn’t want a DoF, not sure if that’s BK (will a new DoF affect his significant bonus?) or LJ who maybe just wants to look after recruitment himself?

No way the recruitment process should be taking this long IMO.

Perhaps there’s something afoot with the city group after all?

Brightside
28-04-2023, 08:48 AM
LJ is got a bit too much to say on the recruitment process and remit of the DoF I think. Ultimately the new DoF will be his boss, he was on a few weeks ago about how the new guy won’t be making massive changes and will just be adding to the existing infrastructure.

New DoF should have been in weeks ago to do a full review of what went wrong last summer, assess what’s needed and plant the necessary seeds to bring players in with their contacts.

IMO someone at the club doesn’t want a DoF, not sure if that’s BK (will a new DoF affect his significant bonus?) or LJ who maybe just wants to look after recruitment himself?

No way the recruitment process should be taking this long IMO.

Totally agree. We had BK saying in the past we were too small to need a DoF. Then its yeh we will get a DoF, oh and we also will get a Head of Recruitment. If you announce changes you get on and do them. You don't announce them before you have even started the process.

Since452
28-04-2023, 09:09 AM
We just need to look across the city to see that a DoF role isn't the be all and end all. I'm not that bothered about it either way.

Unseen work
28-04-2023, 09:12 AM
I genuinely expected us to announce our DoF today.

Did we not heard they’d be in place by end of April? That combined with not having a game this weekend made sense to me.

But how on earth have we only conducted the first interview in 4 months?

We can say due diligence etc but it doesn’t take four months to look at CV’s and do interviews.

As someone else said, it does make you wonder about the City Group

bingo70
28-04-2023, 09:31 AM
Playing devils advocate, maybe our first choice has turned us down or our expected appointment has had a change of heart?

Not something the club could shout about from the roof tops but would explain the delay.

CapitalGreen
28-04-2023, 09:39 AM
”I'd imagine we'll have someone in post before the end of the season.”
- Ben Kensall, 15/02/23

bingo70
28-04-2023, 09:42 AM
”I'd imagine we'll have someone in post before the end of the season.”
- Ben Kensall, 15/02/23

I’m not sure that quote makes it more acceptable for the time it’s taking to make the appointment.

Hibbyradge
28-04-2023, 09:44 AM
”I'd imagine we'll have someone in post before the end of the season.”
- Ben Kensall, 15/02/23

So nothing's changed. Seems fair enough.

The Modfather
28-04-2023, 09:48 AM
So nothing's changed. Seems fair enough.

In the meantime we’ll just keep planning for next season with the same set up and same people that have served us so well. No rush.

Hibbyradge
28-04-2023, 09:53 AM
I’m not sure that quote makes it more acceptable for the time it’s taking to make the appointment.

I don't just think it's acceptable, I think it's perfectly understandable.

A lot has happened since BK said that, Bingo, including the unexpected death of our owner.

My lifelong best friend passed away at the end of March and I can tell you that a lot of stuff goes on hold when there's a bereavement. Ron's passing will have rocked our administration to the core.

There will have been decisions to make about the future ownership of the club, investment, running costs etc etc.

Hopefully that will have started to settle down now and the way forward has been agreed.

Hibbyradge
28-04-2023, 09:54 AM
In the meantime we’ll just keep planning for next season with the same set up and same people that have served us so well. No rush.

Correct. There is no rush.

eastmainsmsh
28-04-2023, 10:54 AM
The more looked into article John Collins would be ideal if he was Interested

The Modfather
28-04-2023, 10:57 AM
Correct. There is no rush.

I’d have thought the opposite was the case. A new DOF is going to inherit a shambles. A transfer strategy we are actively trying to unpick. A B team signed that doesn’t play any games. A massive contracted squad that lacks quality and will be difficult to move on. A blocked pathway for our youngsters which doesn’t look like it will be any different next season given the bloated squad we have.

Taking 5 or 6 months to appoint a DOF doesn’t give him much chance to understand what is needed and not go past the point where it’s too late to see many of those benefits next season.so it’s another season required of muddling along with all the same failings we know only too well. All the while the window of the riches of group stage European football gets smaller and we’re still trying to get ourselves together.

B.H.F.C
28-04-2023, 11:05 AM
I’d have thought the opposite was the case. A new DOF is going to inherit a shambles. A transfer strategy we are actively trying to unpick. A B team signed that doesn’t play any games. A massive contracted squad that lacks quality and will be difficult to move on. A blocked pathway for our youngsters which doesn’t look like it will be any different next season given the bloated squad we have.

Taking 5 or 6 months to appoint a DOF doesn’t give him much chance to understand what is needed and not go past the point where it’s too late to see many of those benefits next season.so it’s another season required of muddling along with all the same failings we know only too well.

The timescale doesn’t bother me so much, it’s more our ability to get the right person that does and I don’t have a great deal of confidence in us doing that. As mentioned above I find some of Johnson’s comments about it a bit odd. I just hope that if we are appointing someone they have proper control over what they need to have control of and that the structure is correct.

The recruitment side of things is obviously the bit everyone focusses on but, for me, anyone competent should be able to come in and impact that quickly. It’s getting someone competent that worries me.

Hibbyradge
28-04-2023, 11:08 AM
I’d have thought the opposite was the case. A new DOF is going to inherit a shambles. A transfer strategy we are actively trying to unpick. A B team signed that doesn’t play any games. A massive contracted squad that lacks quality and will be difficult to move on. A blocked pathway for our youngsters which doesn’t look like it will be any different next season given the bloated squad we have.

Taking 5 or 6 months to appoint a DOF doesn’t give him much chance to understand what is needed and not go past the point where it’s too late to see many of those benefits next season.so it’s another season required of muddling along with all the same failings we know only too well. All the while the window of the riches of group stage European football gets smaller and we’re still trying to get ourselves together.

There's no point rushing if the appointment isn't right. Of course there is work to be done, but we've made progress on last year and we're still in the hunt for fourth place.

It's not been fantastic but it's been achieved despite real bad luck with injuries and several unjust refereeing decisions.

The squad was significantly reduced last window and we know Hibs are already working to bring new faces in.

I understand that fans are impatient and want to see immediate improvement, but as I pointed out above, the effect of Ron Gordon's passing on the workings of the club shouldn't be underestimated. Undoubtedly, it will have added to the delay in making an appointment.

One Day Soon
28-04-2023, 11:13 AM
There's no point rushing if the appointment isn't right. Of course there is work to be done, but we've made progress on last year and we're still in the hunt for fourth place.

It's not been fantastic but it's been achieved despite real bad luck with injuries and several injust refereeing decisions.

The squad was significantly reduced last window and we know Hibs are already working to bring new faces in.

I understand that fans are impatient and want to see immediate improvement, but as I pointed out above, the effect of Ron Gordon's pasding on the workings of the club shouldn't be underestimated. Undoubtedly, it will have added to the delay in making an appointment.


Truly this is the most worrying part. The people working on this are the same people who serially screwed it up previously.

Hibbyradge
28-04-2023, 11:20 AM
Truly this is the most worrying part. The people working on this are the same people who serially screwed it up previously.

I get that, but they're also the ones that brought in Youan, Fish, Jeggo, Kukharevych and McGeady.

Hopefully they'll have learned from previous mistakes and new recruits will improve the squad.

In any case, appointing a DOF doesn't guarantee successful recruitment.

superfurryhibby
28-04-2023, 11:43 AM
I get that, but they're also the ones that brought in Youan, Fish, Jeggo, Kukharevych and McGeady.

Hopefully they'll have learned from previous mistakes and new recruits will improve the squad.

In any case, appointing a DOF doesn't guarantee successful recruitment.

I tend to agree. The players signed as first team squad picks in the past two windows have generally been decent (Rocky, CJ Egan-Reilly, Cabaraja and Hoppe to the list, have had some impact too).

My beef has been with the poor quality of the development signings, they've had little to no impact over the past three or more windows ( I'm thinking of guys like Tait, Hauge, Melkersen, McKay, Delferriere, Johnson, Mclelland).

Did our recruitment team really watch the likes of Hauge and think, he's more ready to step up than the likes of Laidlaw? That seems quite incredible to me.

Hibs90
28-04-2023, 12:16 PM
LJ is got a bit too much to say on the recruitment process and remit of the DoF I think. Ultimately the new DoF will be his boss, he was on a few weeks ago about how the new guy won’t be making massive changes and will just be adding to the existing infrastructure.

New DoF should have been in weeks ago to do a full review of what went wrong last summer, assess what’s needed and plant the necessary seeds to bring players in with their contacts.

IMO someone at the club doesn’t want a DoF, not sure if that’s BK (will a new DoF affect his significant bonus?) or LJ who maybe just wants to look after recruitment himself?

No way the recruitment process should be taking this long IMO.

I agree.

Heard alarm bells after the St Johnstone game where Johnson said in an interview post match "I was signalling to the CEO, my friend" or something along those lines. Which was a very odd comment to make.

Malthibby
28-04-2023, 07:54 PM
I agree.

Heard alarm bells after the St Johnstone game where Johnson said in an interview post match "I was signalling to the CEO, my friend" or something along those lines. Which was a very odd comment to make.


Maybe he was explaining things to the reporter, LJ's friend?

LewysGot2
29-04-2023, 11:56 AM
I agree.

Heard alarm bells after the St Johnstone game where Johnson said in an interview post match "I was signalling to the CEO, my friend" or something along those lines. Which was a very odd comment to make.

Didn’t think it was odd, not in the context of what he was describing. He was trying to convey how sure he was VAR would overturn the red card and that he was trying to reassure an obviously upset BK not to worry. It was said a bit with tongue in cheek.

oldbutdim
29-04-2023, 12:00 PM
I tend to agree. The players signed as first team squad picks in the past two windows have generally been decent (Rocky, CJ Egan-Reilly, Cabaraja and Hoppe to the list, have had some impact too).

My beef has been with the poor quality of the development signings, they've had little to no impact over the past three or more windows ( I'm thinking of guys like Tait, Hauge, Melkersen, McKay, Delferriere, Johnson, Mclelland).

Did our recruitment team really watch the likes of Hauge and think, he's more ready to step up than the likes of Laidlaw? That seems quite incredible to me.

McKay just scored a cracking header.

Unseen work
29-04-2023, 09:39 PM
Finally a rumour!!

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/10594688/leeds-hibs-director-of-football-five-candidates/

Down to 5.

Mixu, Brian McDermott and Raymond Sparkes being considered

Stuart93
29-04-2023, 09:44 PM
Finally a rumour!!

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/10594688/leeds-hibs-director-of-football-five-candidates/

Down to 5.

Mixu, Brian McDermott and Raymond Sparkes being considered

Unsure if any they names really excite me.

B.H.F.C
29-04-2023, 09:50 PM
Finally a rumour!!

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/10594688/leeds-hibs-director-of-football-five-candidates/

Down to 5.

Mixu, Brian McDermott and Raymond Sparkes being considered

Middle one is most likely. Absolutely no chance it will be Raymond Sparks!

Unseen work
29-04-2023, 09:52 PM
Unsure if any they names really excite me.

The thing is I’m not sure who we will get that would realistically excite us as such.

Savage was getting praised at hearts but I’m not sure he was exciting.

McDermott has a wealth of knowledge and experience so would probably be a good shout and my pick out of those 3.

Sparkes being an ex agent just makes him seem untrustworthy to me 🤣 wouldn’t be sure about him at all.

The ‘exciting’ ones tend to be the ones with the foreign names at clubs we know little about but hope we can somehow unearth the gems with their knowledge- rarely works like that though

bingo70
29-04-2023, 10:03 PM
The thing is I’m not sure who we will get that would realistically excite us as such.

Savage was getting praised at hearts but I’m not sure he was exciting.

McDermott has a wealth of knowledge and experience so would probably be a good shout and my pick out of those 3.

Sparkes being an ex agent just makes him seem untrustworthy to me 🤣 wouldn’t be sure about him at all.

The ‘exciting’ ones tend to be the ones with the foreign names at clubs we know little about but hope we can somehow unearth the gems with their knowledge- rarely works like that though

Totally agree. It’s not an appointment that is likely to be someone that’s particularly exciting unless it’s an unknown quantity with an exotic name.

FWIW I think Brian McDermott sounds like an interesting option if he was in a senior recruitment position at Arsenal.

Stevie Reid
29-04-2023, 10:07 PM
Totally agree. It’s not an appointment that is likely to be someone that’s particularly exciting unless it’s an unknown quantity with an exotic name.

FWIW I think Brian McDermott sounds like an interesting option if he was in a senior recruitment position at Arsenal.

Yeah I’m not sure what I was expecting in terms of a potential DOF appointment but McDermott is definitely an interesting one.

Wouldn’t have an issue with Mixu getting it either.

CapitalGreen
29-04-2023, 10:13 PM
McDermott while certainly not exciting name as a manager he had an excellent track record scouting young players in smaller markets while Chief Scout at Reading.

Kevin Doyle, Jonny Hayes and Shane Long from the Irish League.
Michail Antonio from the 7th tier Isthmian League.
A teenage Gylfi Sigurdsson from Iceland.

Unseen work
29-04-2023, 10:13 PM
Totally agree. It’s not an appointment that is likely to be someone that’s particularly exciting unless it’s an unknown quantity with an exotic name.

FWIW I think Brian McDermott sounds like an interesting option if he was in a senior recruitment position at Arsenal.

Yep, seems a well respected guy in football and will have loads of knowledge of players in England - being at arsenal and getting access to their resources and contacts helps too.

I saw he also done presentations at clubs speaking players about his experiences and mental health. That sort of stuff will help build relationships with players and develop and element of trust with him.

Probably comes across very humble and personable

Dalianwanda
29-04-2023, 10:13 PM
Unsure if any they names really excite me.

What name would excite you for DoF? looking at ours and others in other leagues theres very few I would have known anything about before joining their respective clubs.

Donegal Hibby
29-04-2023, 11:03 PM
Finally a rumour!!

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/10594688/leeds-hibs-director-of-football-five-candidates/

Down to 5.

Mixu, Brian McDermott and Raymond Sparkes being considered
I think both mixu and Brian McDermott wouldn't be a bad choice actually both have a good knowledge of football , must have plenty of contacts in the game. As for Raymond sparkes I meet him years ago in Donegal and I hope it's not him , wasn't impressed would be putting it mildly btw !

Silky
29-04-2023, 11:14 PM
What name would excite you for DoF? looking at ours and others in other leagues theres very few I would have known anything about before joining their respective clubs.

I think that's a good point. Does the DoF have to be someone who "excites"? I'd never heard of Savage across the road, yet he is the one getting all the praise for Hearts recruitment. Ross Wilson when he was at Rangers was again someone I had never heard off and could hardly be described as exciting. I suppose my problem is that I don't really have much knowledge of who is out there in terms of doing that job and who would realistically want it. As long as they get the job done, I really don't care who they are.

Brightside
29-04-2023, 11:24 PM
If anyone of us really know who the DoF is then they’ve got the wrong guy. I’d struggle to name any of the DoFs in football.

Donegal Hibby
29-04-2023, 11:31 PM
Is savage's recruitment really worth all the praise it's meant to be getting though ? I'm not so sure it has been that good tbh .
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/heart-of-midlothian-fc/transfers/verein/43

JohnM1875
29-04-2023, 11:48 PM
Unsure if any they names really excite me.

Aye same. Think it'll finally put to bed any City group takeover chat though.

connerg
30-04-2023, 12:17 AM
The Dof thing was announced months ago, just to plicate the fans who were becoming restless and angry after a poor set of results. Does any Hibs fan think BK and LJ want another level of management above them? Diluting their bonus?

We beat the yams recently. Got top six. Job done for another four, maybe five years. Easy money at EM.

Donegal Hibby
30-04-2023, 12:24 AM
The Dof thing was announced months ago, just to plicate the fans who were becoming restless and angry after a poor set of results. Does any Hibs fan think BK and LJ want another level of management above them? Diluting their bonus?

We beat the yams recently. Got top six. Job done for another four, maybe five years. Easy money at EM.
On the sauce again ? :faf:

connerg
30-04-2023, 12:34 AM
On the sauce again ? :faf:

You must be too. It is Saturday night/Sunday morning

offshorehibby
30-04-2023, 12:44 AM
The Dof thing was announced months ago, just to plicate the fans who were becoming restless and angry after a poor set of results. Does any Hibs fan think BK and LJ want another level of management above them? Diluting their bonus?

We beat the yams recently. Got top six. Job done for another four, maybe five years. Easy money at EM.

If BK's meant to be Ben Kennsell then a DoF would not be above the CEO.

connerg
30-04-2023, 01:10 AM
If BK's meant to be Ben Kennsell then a DoF would not be above the CEO.

I realised that at the time of posting. He will interview the candidates though and my synical guess is................

Donegal Hibby
30-04-2023, 01:41 AM
Ok. i was too critical of Boyle. He was the only light in an otherwise negative team under Ross. Still is an exciting player. My point is, which i never made, is Boyle, McGeady and Magennis are quality players who offer nothing just now. Putting a serious hole in Hibs budget. Are they back next season?
Yeah , you mentioned in a previous post that Boyle was living off his two goals at tiny and one at ER too! ( Bizarre post btw ) . Your right though Boyle , Mcgeady and Magennis are quality players though we didn't need any of them when we battered hertz in the last derby ! . :wink:

Allant1981
30-04-2023, 05:32 AM
Poor. poor reply. Been watching Hibs since 1976. Backed them through 3 relegation's and Covid. Stood up for Hibs for years.

When STF sold up and the Gordon's took over, just lost the will to defend them. Always will be a Hibby though.


OK, blether

connerg
30-04-2023, 06:39 AM
OK, blether

I expect better from a fellow .net private member.

jeffers
30-04-2023, 07:04 AM
While I’ll probably be accused of having another go at Johnson, reading the article it came across as if he was part of the recruitment process to appoint the DoF. I get that a DoF and manager need to work together, but my understanding is the DoF sets the whole agenda for the footballing side of things, including hiring and firing of managers. Yet we seem to be allowing our manager to have a say in who we appoint as DoF.

Jones28
30-04-2023, 07:27 AM
While I’ll probably be accused of having another go at Johnson, reading the article it came across as if he was part of the recruitment process to appoint the DoF. I get that a DoF and manager need to work together, but my understanding is the DoF sets the whole agenda for the footballing side of things, including hiring and firing of managers. Yet we seem to be allowing our manager to have a say in who we appoint as DoF.

Does it matter? Johnson is a significant cog in the machine at ER and appointing someone who he didn’t get on with would be undermining the manager from the get go. My take on the the role is that the DOF manages recruitment and strategy, but this has to be in consultation with the manager, otherwise what’s the point?

The Modfather
30-04-2023, 08:01 AM
Does it matter? Johnson is a significant cog in the machine at ER and appointing someone who he didn’t get on with would be undermining the manager from the get go. My take on the the role is that the DOF manages recruitment and strategy, but this has to be in consultation with the manager, otherwise what’s the point?

I’d have thought the DOF role would be more important than the managers role. What if the best strategy for the club is one that is at odds with how Johnson views his role? I don’t think a manager should be involved in setting the strategy or choosing a DOF, it should be the other way around. Choose a strategy and hire suitable managers. If it turns out Johnson is a fit for our new strategy, great. If he’s not, so be it.

007
30-04-2023, 08:42 AM
One derby win in over 3 years, including two Scottish Cup Semi defeats! We are not overly freindly with top six either. That is reality but you call it posting rubbish.

No wonder we are a soft touch.

We are a soft touch because of people like Donegal Hibby saying you've been posting s***e after your posts accusing Boyle and Magennis of ripping the p*sh out of Hibs and you saying "How sore can your leg be? or your knee and ankle? If it was that bad they'd be in hospital." 🤔

Paulie Walnuts
30-04-2023, 08:56 AM
I’d have thought the DOF role would be more important than the managers role. What if the best strategy for the club is one that is at odds with how Johnson views his role? I don’t think a manager should be involved in setting the strategy or choosing a DOF, it should be the other way around. Choose a strategy and hire suitable managers. If it turns out Johnson is a fit for our new strategy, great. If he’s not, so be it.

:agree:

Johnson shouldn’t be involved at all imo.

BoomtownHibees
30-04-2023, 08:57 AM
While I’ll probably be accused of having another go at Johnson, reading the article it came across as if he was part of the recruitment process to appoint the DoF. I get that a DoF and manager need to work together, but my understanding is the DoF sets the whole agenda for the footballing side of things, including hiring and firing of managers. Yet we seem to be allowing our manager to have a say in who we appoint as DoF.

If he has been involved it’s no really his fault is it?

WhileTheChief..
30-04-2023, 09:05 AM
Happens way too often on here, and they’re never right!!

Calling folk out as Hearts fans on here is really pretty low and those doing so should have their posts made to appear in maroon as punishment until they apologise.

JimBHibees
30-04-2023, 09:17 AM
Totally agree. It’s not an appointment that is likely to be someone that’s particularly exciting unless it’s an unknown quantity with an exotic name.

FWIW I think Brian McDermott sounds like an interesting option if he was in a senior recruitment position at Arsenal.

Not sure you want exciting more someone with gravitas that can get the club working more efficiently on the football side. A decent sounding board for the manager also would be a plus. Their relationship is key so you want complimentary skills rather than them not trusting each other.

JimBHibees
30-04-2023, 09:17 AM
Happens way too often on here, and they’re never right!!

Calling folk out as Hearts fans on here is really pretty low and those doing so should have their posts made to appear in maroon as punishment until they apologise.

Sort of like a Hibs net naughty step :greengrin

Hibbyradge
30-04-2023, 09:39 AM
The Dof thing was announced months ago, just to plicate the fans who were becoming restless and angry after a poor set of results. Does any Hibs fan think BK and LJ want another level of management above them? Diluting their bonus?

We beat the yams recently. Got top six. Job done for another four, maybe five years. Easy money at EM.

Do you ever say anything favourable about Hibs?

Henderson2Del
30-04-2023, 09:42 AM
Middle one is most likely. Absolutely no chance it will be Raymond Sparks!

Don’t be so sure. He is very close to Malcom McPherson.

Hibbyradge
30-04-2023, 09:43 AM
Connerg is 100% a Hibs fan. I know him personally and is due an apology from you both for this crap.

He is a blether.

Hermit Crab
30-04-2023, 09:52 AM
He is a blether.


Maybe he is but its his opinion and not everyone will agree or like it. He certainly is not a Hearts fan though. Those posts accusing people of being Hearts fans are not classy at all.

chippy
30-04-2023, 09:54 AM
Aye same. Think it'll finally put to bed any City group takeover chat though.

That’s a positive

Hibbyradge
30-04-2023, 10:00 AM
Maybe he is but its his opinion and not everyone will agree or like it. He certainly is not a Hearts fan though. Those posts accusing people of being Hearts fans are not classy at all.

You criticised someone for calling him a blether.

Calling Martin Boyle out for being a wage thief or whatever is blethering of the highest proportion!

"How sore can a leg be?". FFS.

Broken Gnome
30-04-2023, 10:05 AM
Maybe he is but its his opinion and not everyone will agree or like it. He certainly is not a Hearts fan though. Those posts accusing people of being Hearts fans are not classy at all.

Unfortunate you've picked the word classy there, which is as about as far removed a description there is of the post he's getting hauled up for.

Donegal Hibby
30-04-2023, 10:05 AM
Maybe he is but its his opinion and not everyone will agree or like it. He certainly is not a Hearts fan though. Those posts accusing people of being Hearts fans are not classy at all.
Having a go at our best player that's injured isn't classy either and something most Hibs fans wouldn't do either! ! !

Stuart93
30-04-2023, 10:16 AM
What name would excite you for DoF? looking at ours and others in other leagues theres very few I would have known anything about before joining their respective clubs.

I liked the idea of John Park

But there’s probably some bias there because he helped develop our golden generation

superfurryhibby
30-04-2023, 10:37 AM
You criticised someone for calling him a blether.

Calling Martin Boyle out for being a wage thief or whatever is blethering of the highest proportion!

"How sore can a leg be?". FFS.

It's almost like being a Hibs "fan" gives people an excuse to say anything they like on here and not to expect chastisement. Hilarious defence coming from someone who openly boasted about betting on Hibs to be relegated this season.

matty_f
30-04-2023, 11:44 AM
It’s a no-brainer to include Johnson in the recruitment process to some level for the DoF. Our best outcome is that Johnson and the DoF are on the same page from the outset, that they work well together and there’s minimal conflict.
The easiest way to achieve that is to have Johnson involved. He doesn’t have to be the decision maker but he absolutely should have input.

jeffers
30-04-2023, 11:54 AM
It’s a no-brainer to include Johnson in the recruitment process to some level for the DoF. Our best outcome is that Johnson and the DoF are on the same page from the outset, that they work well together and there’s minimal conflict.
The easiest way to achieve that is to have Johnson involved. He doesn’t have to be the decision maker but he absolutely should have input.

Disagree, it’s the tail wagging the dog IMO. To me a DoF will still be there as managers come and go and leading the football direction. I don’t believe the manager should be anyway involved in the process of recruiting the DoF.

matty_f
30-04-2023, 12:01 PM
Disagree, it’s the tail wagging the dog IMO. To me a DoF will still be there as managers come and go and leading the football direction. I don’t believe the manager should be anyway involved in the process of recruiting the DoF.

I have no clue why you’d exclude the person who is one of the two most important relationships that DoF will have at the club. It seems to me an absurd approach. Nothing to do with tails wagging dogs and everything to do with ensuring the smoothest transition and giving the club the best chance of hitting the ground running with the new set up.

What benefit do you have in excluding him altogether?

Hibbyradge
30-04-2023, 12:08 PM
Disagree, it’s the tail wagging the dog IMO. To me a DoF will still be there as managers come and go and leading the football direction. I don’t believe the manager should be anyway involved in the process of recruiting the DoF.

I'm with Matty on this.

Yes, the DoF will be there when the current manager leaves, but the relationship between the manager and the DoF is very important, so it makes sense to ensure they're compatible at the outset.

The last thing we want is a conflict of ideas, priorities or personalities so if we have the opportunity to avoid that, then it would be irresponsible not to take it, particularly if the reason was to keep the manager "in his place".

There is no downside to involving the manager, only upsides.

Hibbyradge
30-04-2023, 12:10 PM
I have no clue why you’d exclude the person who is one of the two most important relationships that DoF will have at the club. It seems to me an absurd approach. Nothing to do with tails wagging dogs and everything to do with ensuring the smoothest transition and giving the club the best chance of hitting the ground running with the new set up.

What benefit do you have in excluding him altogether?

I hadn't read this before typing my post. I could have saved myself the bother! :greengrin

JimBHibees
30-04-2023, 12:16 PM
It’s a no-brainer to include Johnson in the recruitment process to some level for the DoF. Our best outcome is that Johnson and the DoF are on the same page from the outset, that they work well together and there’s minimal conflict.
The easiest way to achieve that is to have Johnson involved. He doesn’t have to be the decision maker but he absolutely should have input.

Absolutely no brainer for him to be involved. Would be stupidity if he wasnt

jeffers
30-04-2023, 12:21 PM
I have no clue why you’d exclude the person who is one of the two most important relationships that DoF will have at the club. It seems to me an absurd approach. Nothing to do with tails wagging dogs and everything to do with ensuring the smoothest transition and giving the club the best chance of hitting the ground running with the new set up.

What benefit do you have in excluding him altogether?

You are appointing someone who, my understanding is, will be ultimately responsible for the football direction of the club, including the hiring and firing of managers. I’ve never worked in a role where I had a say in who was appointed to be my manager. As I said earlier I expect the DoF to be there as managers come and go, if the one we appoint doesn’t see Johnson as the man to take us forward then so be it. I’d be saying the same, whether Johnson was our current manager or not.

CapitalGreen
30-04-2023, 01:02 PM
You are appointing someone who, my understanding is, will be ultimately responsible for the football direction of the club, including the hiring and firing of managers. I’ve never worked in a role where I had a say in who was appointed to be my manager. As I said earlier I expect the DoF to be there as managers come and go, if the one we appoint doesn’t see Johnson as the man to take us forward then so be it. I’d be saying the same, whether Johnson was our current manager or not.

The DoF isn’t the first team managers boss though. DoFs and managers should be a partnership with the the DoF being responsible for much of the non-coaching stuff that managers did in the past. A DoF also wouldn’t have sole responsibility for hiring and firing the manager too. He’ll be influential in the process but ultimately the decision will be made by the board of directors.

jeffers
30-04-2023, 01:25 PM
The DoF isn’t the first team managers boss though. DoFs and managers should be a partnership with the the DoF being responsible for much of the non-coaching stuff that managers did in the past. A DoF also wouldn’t have sole responsibility for hiring and firing the manager too. He’ll be influential in the process but ultimately the decision will be made by the board of directors.

I don’t know what specific responsibilities the DoF will be given at Hibs, but whether it’s full control over hiring and firing of managers or only being an influence in the process I don’t think the manager should be involved in their appointment.

matty_f
30-04-2023, 02:14 PM
I don’t know what specific responsibilities the DoF will be given at Hibs, but whether it’s full control over hiring and firing of managers or only being an influence in the process I don’t think the manager should be involved in their appointment.

What about from the DoF’s perspective? Surely you’d recognise the value in there being a conversation between the managers and a prospective DoF before they take the job?

If you’re in charge and you’ve got an expensive assembled management team in place, you’re almost being negligent if you don’t try to make that work with the DoF first.

The alternative is risking your season because it’ll take a long time for results to hit the stage where you can sack the manager, that costs money, then you’ve however long to recruit a new management team.

What is the benefit to either the club, the manager, or the DoF in not involving the manager in the process?

connerg
30-04-2023, 02:58 PM
Connerg is 100% a Hibs fan. I know him personally and is due an apology from you both for this crap.

Thanks HC. Getting accused of being a jambo is not a great experience. :flag:

bingo70
30-04-2023, 03:10 PM
What about from the DoF’s perspective? Surely you’d recognise the value in there being a conversation between the managers and a prospective DoF before they take the job?

If you’re in charge and you’ve got an expensive assembled management team in place, you’re almost being negligent if you don’t try to make that work with the DoF first.

The alternative is risking your season because it’ll take a long time for results to hit the stage where you can sack the manager, that costs money, then you’ve however long to recruit a new management team.

What is the benefit to either the club, the manager, or the DoF in not involving the manager in the process?

Just my opinion but I think there should be a conversation between potential candidates and the manager to make sure there’s no personality clashes. On the back of that LJs opinion should be heard and taken into consideration.

That should be the limit of his involvement though, he shouldn’t be part of the final decision making process and the DoF overall remit isn’t for LJ to decide.

connerg
30-04-2023, 03:39 PM
You criticised someone for calling him a blether.

Calling Martin Boyle out for being a wage thief or whatever is blethering of the highest proportion!

"How sore can a leg be?". FFS.

HC didn't criticise anyone. He merely pointed out thay's my opinion. Log term injuries to quality players frustrate everybody.

Hibbyradge
30-04-2023, 03:42 PM
HC didn't criticise anyone. He merely pointed out thay's my opinion. Log term injuries to quality players frustrate everybody.

He said "Connerg is 100% a Hibs fan. I know him personally and is due an apology from you both for this crap."

That's criticism, particularly as it was aimed at someone who correctly called you a blether.

connerg
30-04-2023, 03:54 PM
He said "Connerg is 100% a Hibs fan. I know him personally and is due an apology from you both for this crap."

That's criticism, particularly as it was aimed at someone who correctly called you a blether.

It's not criticism. It's his opinion. When did you become the guru of being correct?

Hibbyradge
30-04-2023, 03:58 PM
It's not criticism. It's his opinion. When did you become the guru of being correct?

When it comes to people calling out Martin Boyle for being injured too long, it doesn't need a guru to know it's correct.

Saying someone's post is "crap" a direct criticism. Look it up

connerg
30-04-2023, 04:17 PM
When it comes to people calling out Martin Boyle for being injured too long, it doesn't need a guru to know it's correct.

Saying someone's post is "crap" a direct criticism. Look it up

Their post's are a crap respnse to my opinion. Petty and infantile.

HNA2
30-04-2023, 04:21 PM
Can we stop the personal digs and accusations. Most of you have been on here long enough to know better. If you have an issue use the report function and leave it to the admin team. This is how decent threads end up closed. Back on track please.

matty_f
30-04-2023, 05:43 PM
Just my opinion but I think there should be a conversation between potential candidates and the manager to make sure there’s no personality clashes. On the back of that LJs opinion should be heard and taken into consideration.

That should be the limit of his involvement though, he shouldn’t be part of the final decision making process and the DoF overall remit isn’t for LJ to decide.
Yeah, I don't think he should be having final say on it either, just input into the process and to give his opinion.

connerg
01-05-2023, 12:06 AM
Postegolou say's we're onto something special. Two team league, is that special? They have won over one hundred trophies.

Players's get booked easily against them and The Rangers. While the subservient officials take an eternity to book them, usually in the last minute, if at all.

Some conspiracy that? I hate the old firm equally. Just go away, the pair of you.

Brightside
01-05-2023, 05:56 AM
Must be a way to add a breath test to the forum.

ErinGoBraghHFC
01-05-2023, 07:18 AM
I absolutely ****ing love this site


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jacomo
01-05-2023, 08:37 AM
You are appointing someone who, my understanding is, will be ultimately responsible for the football direction of the club, including the hiring and firing of managers. I’ve never worked in a role where I had a say in who was appointed to be my manager. As I said earlier I expect the DoF to be there as managers come and go, if the one we appoint doesn’t see Johnson as the man to take us forward then so be it. I’d be saying the same, whether Johnson was our current manager or not.


It’s quite common these days in senior appointments for the folk who will be reporting to the new person to have some role in the recruitment process.

JimBHibees
01-05-2023, 08:42 AM
Just my opinion but I think there should be a conversation between potential candidates and the manager to make sure there’s no personality clashes. On the back of that LJs opinion should be heard and taken into consideration.

That should be the limit of his involvement though, he shouldn’t be part of the final decision making process and the DoF overall remit isn’t for LJ to decide.

Absolutely spot on.

jacomo
01-05-2023, 09:32 AM
Mixu maybe in the running?

What a signing that could be!

Loopz
01-05-2023, 10:42 AM
Mixu maybe in the running?

What a signing that could be!

Spotted in Dalgety Bay very recently.

BoomtownHibees
01-05-2023, 11:05 AM
Spotted in Dalgety Bay very recently.

He stays over that way I’m sure

Hibiza
01-05-2023, 03:17 PM
Keep Johnson as far away as possible from any DOF appointment .

Hibbyradge
01-05-2023, 05:51 PM
Keep Johnson as far away as possible from any DOF appointment .

Why?

Lewis1981
01-05-2023, 06:15 PM
Mixu maybe in the running?

What a signing that could be!

I appreciate Mixu is very much a hero to many for his hat trick against heart and the role he played over his first spell at the club (cant really remember much about his
the second spell tbh, think that was when he thought he was pirlo pre pirlo and chipped a last minute pen over the bar against hearts, why anyone would let him take a penalty is beyond me, and then he then missed another against them! anyway I digress)

BUT he is like some orbiting planet that seems to be drawn back to the club after a period of time. stalking the team training at Arthurs seat to get his second spell as player, getting the managers job which he totally failed at!! and is now possibly putting himself forward for this role.

what evidence is there that he would even be remotely good at this job? lets have a look......

he had had one good year at Kilmarnock over 10 years ago, since then.....

Sacked by finland
got dundee united relegated, sacked
managed 6 months with Latvia
sacked from hong kong after 1 win in 12 games
sacked from HIFK after getting them relegated after 1 win all season!!!

i
I could only imagine the tragic comedy show it would be with LJ and Mixu at them helm, a dire little and large sitcom.

he would be a horrendous appointment IMHO.

bingo70
01-05-2023, 06:21 PM
I appreciate Mixu is very much a hero to many for his hat trick against heart and the role he played over his first spell at the club (cant really remember much about his
the second spell tbh, think that was when he thought he was pirlo pre pirlo and chipped a last minute pen over the bar against hearts, why anyone would let him take a penalty is beyond me, and then he then missed another against them! anyway I digress)

BUT he is like some orbiting planet that seems to be drawn back to the club after a period of time. stalking the team training at Arthurs seat to get his second spell as player, getting the managers job which he totally failed at!! and is now possibly putting himself forward for this role.

what evidence is there that he would even be remotely good at this job? lets have a look......

he had had one good year at Kilmarnock over 10 years ago, since then.....

Sacked by finland
got dundee united relegated, sacked
managed 6 months with Latvia
sacked from hong kong after 1 win in 12 games
sacked from HIFK after getting them relegated after 1 win all season!!!

i
I could only imagine the tragic comedy show it would be with LJ and Mixu at them helm, a dire little and large sitcom.

he would be a horrendous appointment IMHO.

I don’t know if he’d be good or not but those jobs he was sacked from were managerial jobs, that’s not what he’d be doing here.

There’s someone on here that knows him, Bolton Hibs maybe? Sure he has dismissed the rumour as nonsense?

Bridge hibs
01-05-2023, 06:24 PM
I appreciate Mixu is very much a hero to many for his hat trick against heart and the role he played over his first spell at the club (cant really remember much about his
the second spell tbh, think that was when he thought he was pirlo pre pirlo and chipped a last minute pen over the bar against hearts, why anyone would let him take a penalty is beyond me, and then he then missed another against them! anyway I digress)

BUT he is like some orbiting planet that seems to be drawn back to the club after a period of time. stalking the team training at Arthurs seat to get his second spell as player, getting the managers job which he totally failed at!! and is now possibly putting himself forward for this role.

what evidence is there that he would even be remotely good at this job? lets have a look......

he had had one good year at Kilmarnock over 10 years ago, since then.....

Sacked by finland
got dundee united relegated, sacked
managed 6 months with Latvia
sacked from hong kong after 1 win in 12 games
sacked from HIFK after getting them relegated after 1 win all season!!!

i
I could only imagine the tragic comedy show it would be with LJ and Mixu at them helm, a dire little and large sitcom.

he would be a horrendous appointment IMHO.
So, with all that you seem to have made your mind up he is no good for the job. What has he been doing since your very last point, Im sure he has been involved in some other footballing capacity which may put him in the running for the post

Lewis1981
01-05-2023, 06:37 PM
So, with all that you seem to have made your mind up he is no good for the job. What has he been doing since your very last point, Im sure he has been involved in some other footballing capacity which may put him in the running for the post

I think he got sacked less than 6 months ago so probably not that much since then that would make him a worthy candidate.

JimBHibees
01-05-2023, 06:40 PM
I think he got sacked less than 6 months ago so probably not that much since then that would make him a worthy candidate.

Why not ? Huge experience as manager and player in the league plus experience down south and at international level. Seems a reasonable fit imo

Bridge hibs
01-05-2023, 06:52 PM
I think he got sacked less than 6 months ago so probably not that much since then that would make him a worthy candidate.
He may have learned a lot from those experiences though, as well as being a player, he will also have gained many contacts throughout his managerial experiences too

Lewis1981
01-05-2023, 06:53 PM
Why not ? Huge experience as manager and player in the league plus experience down south and at international level. Seems a reasonable fit imo

Because he has failed at the club previously and has been on a serial run of being sacked. would a rival club be looking to take him in, not a chance.

Bridge hibs
01-05-2023, 06:55 PM
Because he has failed at the club previously and has been on a serial run of being sacked. would a rival club be looking to take him in, not a chance.

He wouldnt be coming as Manager though

JimBHibees
01-05-2023, 06:55 PM
Because he has failed at the club previously and has been on a serial run of being sacked. would a rival club be looking to take him in, not a chance.

He isn't being considered as a coach. Director of football a completely different job

Lewis1981
01-05-2023, 07:01 PM
He isn't being considered as a coach. Director of football a completely different job

from what i gather there would still be a large cross over, direction of the club, footballing philosophy, signing of players.

I cant recall him signing any decent players when manager apart from getting riordan back and the football on offer was total hoofball.

anyway just my 2 cents

BoltonHibee
02-05-2023, 06:59 AM
I don’t know if he’d be good or not but those jobs he was sacked from were managerial jobs, that’s not what he’d be doing here.

There’s someone on here that knows him, Bolton Hibs maybe? Sure he has dismissed the rumour as nonsense?

He said a couple of weeks ago that the story in the papers ( The Record I think), was nonsense and suspected he knew who had fabricated the story. I’m sure he would like the job if it was offered to him. He works for UEFA now, and in that podcast I posted a link to, he touches on what he’s up to with them. I think the work he does with them and his previous experience and more importantly his contacts in the game would serve him well in that particular role


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blackpoolhibs
02-05-2023, 07:09 AM
He said a couple of weeks ago that the story in the papers ( The Record I think), was nonsense and suspected he knew who had fabricated the story. I’m sure he would like the job if it was offered to him. He works for UEFA now, and in that podcast I posted a link to, he touches on what he’s up to with them. I think the work he does with them and his previous experience and more importantly his contacts in the game would serve him well in that particular role


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What about Terry Butcher, he's also been sacked from virtually every club he's been at.😜

Iain G
02-05-2023, 07:12 AM
"Mixu Paatelainen, what a DoFing signing"

bingo70
02-05-2023, 07:42 AM
"Mixu Paatelainen, what a DoFing signing"

Day 2 of the transfer window:

“Mixu Paateleinen, make a ****in signing na na na”

SaulGoodman
02-05-2023, 07:48 AM
Day 2 of the transfer window:

“Mixu Paateleinen, make a ****in signing na na na”

Day 3 of the transfer window:

“Mixu Paateleinen, what the ****s that signing?”

Iain G
02-05-2023, 08:05 AM
Day 3 of the transfer window:

“Mixu Paateleinen, what the ****s that signing?”

Day 4 "Mixu Paatelainen, when are you resignin'"

Jones28
02-05-2023, 08:25 AM
I appreciate Mixu is very much a hero to many for his hat trick against heart and the role he played over his first spell at the club (cant really remember much about his
the second spell tbh, think that was when he thought he was pirlo pre pirlo and chipped a last minute pen over the bar against hearts, why anyone would let him take a penalty is beyond me, and then he then missed another against them! anyway I digress)

BUT he is like some orbiting planet that seems to be drawn back to the club after a period of time. stalking the team training at Arthurs seat to get his second spell as player, getting the managers job which he totally failed at!! and is now possibly putting himself forward for this role.

what evidence is there that he would even be remotely good at this job? lets have a look......

he had had one good year at Kilmarnock over 10 years ago, since then.....

Sacked by finland
got dundee united relegated, sacked
managed 6 months with Latvia
sacked from hong kong after 1 win in 12 games
sacked from HIFK after getting them relegated after 1 win all season!!!

i
I could only imagine the tragic comedy show it would be with LJ and Mixu at them helm, a dire little and large sitcom.

he would be a horrendous appointment IMHO.

I think the majority of managers careers could read badly when you list them like that tbh.

If anything, your criticism of his hovering around the club shows a desire and dedication does it not?

Smartie
02-05-2023, 09:10 AM
Day 4 "Mixu Paatelainen, when are you resignin'"

Day 5, Mixu’s complaining that he’s under pressure because he’s not been given enough money to spend on players - “Mixu Paatelainen, stop yer ****ing whining…”.

Billy Whizz
02-05-2023, 09:11 AM
Day 5, Mixu’s complaining that he’s under pressure because he’s not been given enough money to spend on players - “Mixu Paatelainen, stop yer ****ing whining…”.

😂😂😂😂

Hibbyradge
02-05-2023, 09:49 AM
Day 5, Mixu’s complaining that he’s under pressure because he’s not been given enough money to spend on players - “Mixu Paatelainen, stop yer ****ing whining…”.

Day 6, Mixu tries to win over the fans by meeting the young team in the east stand toilets - "Mixu Paatelainen, get a f***ng line in".

Donegal Hibby
02-05-2023, 09:53 AM
I'm not totally against the idea of mixu or McDermott , personally I'd prefer McDermott though I think both will have built up a good knowledge of the game and no doubt have plenty of contacts. Just because both have been sacked as managers doesn't necessarily mean they will be bad at another job too . Steve Kean has been sacked a few times in his career though seems to be doing a excellent job at us now in a different job.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_McDermott_(footballer)

Willis1875
02-05-2023, 10:01 AM
Day 7,Mixu does a supporters evening at Gaucho-“ Mixu Paatelainen,what happened to fine dining”

CapitalGreen
02-05-2023, 10:04 AM
Mixu wouldn’t be in consideration if he didn’t have a past connection to the club.

Alex Trager
02-05-2023, 10:05 AM
Mixu wouldn’t be in consideration if he didn’t have a past connection to the club.

That doesn’t rhyme

Vault Boy
02-05-2023, 10:10 AM
Mixu wouldn’t be in consideration if he didn’t have a past connection to the club.

Didn’t help John Hughes much.

Mixu might not be the man, but his experience is broad, varied, and rather impressive. He’s worked across continents, managed at international level, taken on technical work with UEFA and FIFA, and he speaks four languages - which can’t hurt in a DOF role. I’m not disappointed to see his name linked, it’s a very different remit to his time as manager.

Lago
02-05-2023, 11:03 AM
Didn’t help John Hughes much.

Mixu might not be the man, but his experience is broad, varied, and rather impressive. He’s worked across continents, managed at international level, taken on technical work with UEFA and FIFA, and he speaks four languages - which can’t hurt in a DOF role. I’m not disappointed to see his name linked, it’s a very different remit to his time as manager.
Correct

eastmainsmsh
02-05-2023, 11:08 AM
Mcdermott interesting Sparkes not sure 🤔 Mixu fans favourite as player

bingo70
02-05-2023, 11:19 AM
Mcdermott interesting Sparkes not sure 🤔 Mixu fans favourite as player

The interesting aspect of Sparkes is who a couple of Directors of his agency were.

I hope the person who mentioned this on the PM board doesn’t mind but it’s publicly available information so thought it would be ok to post.

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/SC160025/officers

Malcom McPherson (current Hibs chairman) and David Low who has previously spoken about trying to buy us.

Could just be Malcom McPherson has got his foot in the door of course and nothing more exciting than that, that’s a bit boring though so I’ll assume something bigger is bubbling away.

ancient hibee
02-05-2023, 11:22 AM
I'm not totally against the idea of mixu or McDermott , personally I'd prefer McDermott though I think both will have built up a good knowledge of the game and no doubt have plenty of contacts. Just because both have been sacked as managers doesn't necessarily mean they will be bad at another job too . Steve Kean has been sacked a few times in his career though seems to be doing a excellent job at us now in a different job.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_McDermott_(footballer)

The majority of managers are sacked at least once.

Unseen work
02-05-2023, 11:44 AM
For some reason I just don’t like the idea of Sparkes, probably because he’s an agent and they just all seem untrustworthy and sneaky. That said, he probably knows loads of players and would know different ways to get them to join which could be a huge benefit.

You’d imagine he’d have loads of contacts.

Mixu I just don’t want at all for some reason.

McDermott would be very good imo.

jacomo
02-05-2023, 12:02 PM
from what i gather there would still be a large cross over, direction of the club, footballing philosophy, signing of players.

I cant recall him signing any decent players when manager apart from getting riordan back and the football on offer was total hoofball.

anyway just my 2 cents


It’s not the same job.

I’m not sure I would have fancied George Craig as manager but he did a good job as Director of Football.

Why not give Mixu a chance?

Smartie
02-05-2023, 12:43 PM
For some reason I just don’t like the idea of Sparkes, probably because he’s an agent and they just all seem untrustworthy and sneaky. That said, he probably knows loads of players and would know different ways to get them to join which could be a huge benefit.

You’d imagine he’d have loads of contacts.

Mixu I just don’t want at all for some reason.

McDermott would be very good imo.

I quite like the idea of Mixu.

Mixed bag as a manager, but having played for a few clubs in a few leagues, managed a few clubs in a few leagues and managed and played at international level he won't be short of contacts. He's always been a guy who has been popular wherever he has gone.

He knows Scottish football, so there won't be a "pub league, sign a few league one players and we'll piss it, my nan could score up there" sort of thing whilst someone who has never been involved in Scotland finds their feet.

jacomo
02-05-2023, 01:07 PM
For some reason I just don’t like the idea of Sparkes, probably because he’s an agent and they just all seem untrustworthy and sneaky. That said, he probably knows loads of players and would know different ways to get them to join which could be a huge benefit.

You’d imagine he’d have loads of contacts.

Mixu I just don’t want at all for some reason.

McDermott would be very good imo.


Why are we so hard on former players and managers?

Honestly find it quite depressing to read this.

Mixu may or may not be a good candidate for the role, but blind prejudice against him should stop.

Hibbyradge
02-05-2023, 01:33 PM
Why are we so hard on former players and managers?

Honestly find it quite depressing to read this.

Mixu may or may not be a good candidate for the role, but blind prejudice against him should stop.

I'm not sure we're hard on former players.

There are folk on here who think Deek and Griffiths could still do a job for us!

bingo70
02-05-2023, 01:39 PM
Why are we so hard on former players and managers?

Honestly find it quite depressing to read this.

Mixu may or may not be a good candidate for the role, but blind prejudice against him should stop.

I don’t think it’s blind prejudice is it? It’s because he’s never done the job and the jobs he has had as a manager he’s not been overly successful.

Unseen work
02-05-2023, 03:06 PM
Why are we so hard on former players and managers?

Honestly find it quite depressing to read this.

Mixu may or may not be a good candidate for the role, but blind prejudice against him should stop.

Hard on him, depressing and blind prejudice just because I said I don’t want him for DOF?

Honestly what a load of nonsense

JohnM1875
02-05-2023, 03:13 PM
Hard on him, depressing and blind prejudice just because I said I don’t want him for DOF?

Honestly what a load of nonsense

I'm with you on this one as well.

Hibs4185
02-05-2023, 03:20 PM
It’s quite common these days in senior appointments for the folk who will be reporting to the new person to have some role in the recruitment process.

My wife is a teacher and parents sit it on management interviews.

What does a parent know about being management in a school? Brutal

Hibbyradge
02-05-2023, 04:58 PM
My wife is a teacher and parents sit it on management interviews.

What does a parent know about being management in a school? Brutal

Parents can be managers you know. They can even be teachers.

ancient hibee
02-05-2023, 05:21 PM
For some reason I just don’t like the idea of Sparkes, probably because he’s an agent and they just all seem untrustworthy and sneaky. That said, he probably knows loads of players and would know different ways to get them to join which could be a huge benefit.

You’d imagine he’d have loads of contacts.

Mixu I just don’t want at all for some reason.

McDermott would be very good imo.

Don't fancy Sparkes at all. A lot of history/baggage.

Iain G
02-05-2023, 05:35 PM
That doesn’t rhyme

Day 8 "Mixu Paatelainen, fans have stopped the rhymin'"

Iain G
02-05-2023, 05:36 PM
Don't fancy Sparkes at all. A lot of history/baggage.

Is he bright enough for the job? Maybe we found him on Tinder?

CapitalGreen
02-05-2023, 06:48 PM
Rangers have just announced that Academy Director Craig Mulholland is leaving at the end of the season to pursue new opportunities. Could be looking to make an upwards move to becoming a DoF?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-mulholland-6410ba50?originalSubdomain=uk

bingo70
02-05-2023, 06:52 PM
Rangers have just announced that Academy Director Craig Mulholland is leaving at the end of the season to pursue new opportunities. Could be looking to make an upwards move to becoming a DoF?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-mulholland-6410ba50?originalSubdomain=uk

Completely different role so I wouldn’t have thought so.

CapitalGreen
02-05-2023, 07:23 PM
Completely different role so I wouldn’t have thought so.

Is it that different? A lot of the responsibilities of an Academy director would be similar to those of a Director of Football with the main difference being one deals with the senior club and the other with the Academy. https://thepfsa.co.uk/careers/academy-director/

- Responsible for implementing strategy at senior or academy level.
- Management of non-playing football staff.
- Contract negotiation and recruitment of senior/academy players.
- Managing the the football/academy budget.

Academy Director to Director of Football is quite a common career path. Off the top of my head the following DoFs were previously Academy Directors.
- Jason Wilcox, Man City Academy Director to DoF at Southampton.
- Frank McPartland, Liverpool Academy Director to DoF at Brentford.
- Mark Allen, Man City Academy Director to DoF at Rangers.

bingo70
02-05-2023, 07:34 PM
Is it that different? A lot of the responsibilities of an Academy director would be similar to those of a Director of Football with the main difference being one deals with the senior club and the other with the Academy. https://thepfsa.co.uk/careers/academy-director/

- Responsible for implementing strategy at senior or academy level.
- Management of non-playing football staff.
- Contract negotiation and recruitment of senior/academy players.
- Managing the the football/academy budget.
- Recruitment of senior/academy players.

Academy Director to Director of Football is quite a common career path. Off the top of my head the following DoFs were previously Academy Directors.
- Jason Wilcox, Man City Academy Director to DoF at Southampton.
- Frank McPartland, Liverpool Academy Director to DoF at Brentford.
- Mark Allen, Man City Academy Director to DoF at Rangers.

Fair play to you, I had no idea there was an obvious transition between the two roles as I thought they would be two completely different attributes.

I think the DoF role can be so varied there really isn’t a one size fits all DoF appointment, I would doubt it will be him though as we have said we want one with a heavy recruitment bias. If we were appointing him, I think we would be appointing a head of recruitment as well, that was rumoured else where so not impossible.

Eyrie
02-05-2023, 07:44 PM
Day 9, fans delighted by the new Hibs strip "Mixu Paatelainen, what a f***ng design".

Hibbyradge
02-05-2023, 07:51 PM
Day 10, Hibs receive an application for assistant to the DoF, "Mixu Paatelainen, can I do your filing?".

Iain G
02-05-2023, 08:28 PM
Day 10, Hibs receive an application for assistant to the DoF, "Mixu Paatelainen, can I do your filing?".

Day 11, taking break to go to the barbers "Mixu Paatelainen! Can I do your styling?"

connerg
02-05-2023, 11:11 PM
Don't fancy Sparkes at all. A lot of history/baggage.


Yes. Thank god someone has said that. He was part of the Duff/Gray regime. Wanted to sell out to Hearts. Money man.

JimBHibees
03-05-2023, 06:25 AM
Yes. Thank god someone has said that. He was part of the Duff/Gray regime. Wanted to sell out to Hearts. Money man.

Was he part of the Duff/Gray regime? Genuinely can't remember that

superfurryhibby
03-05-2023, 06:33 AM
Was he part of the Duff/Gray regime? Genuinely can't remember that

He was on the board from 1989-1991.

ShadesLongThrow
03-05-2023, 07:19 AM
If (big if) the Sun’s report is accurate, the club could be playing a blinder here. They release 3 names and get us all debating them whilst the other 2 out of the 5 candidates are the serious ones and the club can negotiate with them under the radar.

Heisenberg
03-05-2023, 09:32 PM
Brian McDermott getting the job according to the Sun.

JohnM1875
03-05-2023, 09:36 PM
Brian McDermott getting the job according to the Sun.

Out of football for the past seven years. Didn't know that.

CapitalGreen
03-05-2023, 09:37 PM
Brian McDermott getting the job according to the Sun.

Of all the names linked he has the best credentials imo. Very strong recruitment experience which is what we need most.

3pm
03-05-2023, 09:39 PM
Out of football for the past seven years. Didn't know that.

I don't think that's right mate. I think Wiki says that but his LinkedIn suggests he was scouting for Arsenal.

CapitalGreen
03-05-2023, 09:39 PM
Out of football for the past seven years. Didn't know that.

That’s wrong, he hasn’t been a manager in 7 years but he was a senior scout at Arsenal up until Covid and been working on a consultancy basis since then.

JohnM1875
03-05-2023, 09:43 PM
I don't think that's right mate. I think Wiki says that but his LinkedIn suggests he was scouting for Arsenal.


That’s wrong, he hasn’t been a manager in 7 years but he was a senior scout at Arsenal up until Covid and been working on a consultancy basis since then.

Not like The Sun to be wrong eh?

Out of the names he's definitely worked at the highest level. Really hope this works out

Unseen work
03-05-2023, 09:53 PM
McDermott on paper is a very good appointment imo.

Manager at a very high level, loads of experience and knowledge.

You’ve got to think a set up of

DOF - McDermott
Manager - Johnson
Head of Academy - Kean

Can only be a positive thing.

The amount of contacts those 3 must have in the UK alone is surely huge.

Really excited by this.

Found this recent interview with him - https://youtu.be/2JuAbyoj8NE

Spike Mandela
03-05-2023, 10:09 PM
What's so good about McDermott?

JohnM1875
03-05-2023, 10:14 PM
What's so good about McDermott?

Could say that about any of the applicants I imagine.

McDermott has managed at a high level and was Arsenal's international senior scout for three years. Have to think he'd have good contacts from doing that job.

Just have to wait and see what happens now I guess.

B.H.F.C
03-05-2023, 10:17 PM
What's so good about McDermott?

I think a lot of people would have been saying that whoever was appointed. Was always going to be someone a bit different IMO.

For most people, sorting out our recruitment would be number one priority for whoever comes in. Plenty experience as a Chief Scout between Reading and Arsenal should give him a decent bit of experience to lean on for that side of things.

Whether he’ll be good, bad or indifferent I have no idea but I think he looks to have a decent bit of experience for the role.

Spike Mandela
03-05-2023, 10:22 PM
Could say that about any of the applicants I imagine.

McDermott has managed at a high level and was Arsenal's international senior scout for three years. Have to think he'd have good contacts from doing that job.

Just have to wait and see what happens now I guess.

I wasn't asking my question in a disparaging sense. I was genuinely asking what is so good about him as DoF as I don't know the first thing about him.

Interesting he was Arsenal scout but that's an entirely different gene pool to sourcing players for a mid table SPFL side isn't it?

JamesHFC
03-05-2023, 10:23 PM
No experience of Scottish football but he has a vast amount of experience within the game at a top level. Optimistic this will turn out to be a shrewd appointment.

JohnM1875
03-05-2023, 10:25 PM
I wasn't asking my question in a disparaging sense. I was genuinely asking what is so good about him as DoF as I don't know the first thing about him.

Interesting he was Arsenal scout but that's an entirely different gene pool to sourcing players for a mid table SPFL side isn't it?

No idea to be honest. I'm going to guess the scouting would have been for all age groups and not just for first team signings.

Greencore
03-05-2023, 10:28 PM
I'm sure I've heard of him before. Was he not like a guru at reading and got signed by arsenal?

Unseen work
03-05-2023, 10:33 PM
What's so good about McDermott?

Just listening to the interview I posted there is a lot to like.

- Managed at the highest level.
- Managed at all levels at Reading including the younger teams.
- Knowledge of Irish football and contacts
- Chief scout at arsenal - Essentially they would come up with names and he was the one that would go and watch them eventually and say yes or not. Martin Eli, Trossard, Odegaard, Gabriel and Saliba all mentioned as examples. Also said he scouts lower league for younger players
- Owned his own business where he would mentor managers and coaches through the league manager’s association.

I think the knowledge of younger players in England, contacts throughout Europe from being chief scout at arsenal and then relationships built at leeds and reading and the fact he’s already done a mentoring role makes him a very good candidate and almost perfect for the role.

CapitalGreen
03-05-2023, 10:37 PM
What's so good about McDermott?

Recruitment is the most important part of the role IMO and he has an abundance of experience.
- 10 years as Chief Scout at Reading where he built their squad for their first ever promotion to the top flight. Plucking the likes of Gylfi Sigurdsson from Iceland, Kevin Doyle and Shane Long from Cork City and Michail Antonio from the Isthmian League.
- 5+ years as International Chief Scout at Arsenal over 2 spells.

Aside from Recruitment
- Managed Reading to the Championship title having reached the Play off final the previous season. Won 2 manager of the year awards and is considered a club legend.
- Mentors young managers through the LMA

JamesHFC
03-05-2023, 10:37 PM
I'm sure I've heard of him before. Was he not like a guru at reading and got signed by arsenal?

His first win as Reading manager was a win at Anfield in the cup, their first ever win at Anfield. He got them to the play off final but lost to Swansea but then got promoted the season after.

His time at Leeds was a bit of a mess after the club was bought over.

bingo70
03-05-2023, 10:38 PM
I wasn't asking my question in a disparaging sense. I was genuinely asking what is so good about him as DoF as I don't know the first thing about him.

Interesting he was Arsenal scout but that's an entirely different gene pool to sourcing players for a mid table SPFL side isn't it?

In some ways it will be but there will be a lot of crossovers as well, he’ll still have made good contacts with clubs and agents, Arsenal will have scouted young players with potential, some will have made it, some won’t. Primarily though, the main thing is the contacts he’ll have built up. He’s also been involved in the game at a good level for a huge amount of time so has masses of experience.

Really positive appointment this IMO.

JohnM1875
03-05-2023, 10:42 PM
Recruitment is the most important part of the role IMO and he has an abundance of experience.
- 10 years as Chief Scout at Reading where he built their squad for their first ever promotion to the top flight. Plucking the likes of Gylfi Sigurdsson from Iceland, Kevin Doyle and Shane Long from Cork City and Michail Antonio from the Isthmian League.
- 5+ years as International Chief Scout at Arsenal over 2 spells.

Aside from Recruitment
- Managed Reading to the Championship title having reached the Play off final the previous season. Won 2 manager of the year awards and is considered a club legend.
- Mentors young managers through the LMA

That's a tasty looking CV to be fair.

CapitalGreen
03-05-2023, 10:48 PM
https://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/sport/23333518.legendary-reading-fc-manager-current-scouting-set-up/

”You’ve got your video analyst guys and you need your data, but you also need people on the ground. One of the reasons you need people on the ground is because there’s lots of scouts on the ground and scouts talk. I used to listen, because scouts like to talk about players. The best advice for a scout is to make sure you’re listening and find who the best ones are, because you don’t know who they all are.

Sometimes just being amongst it and to be there, even if there isn’t a player playing on that particular day, you might find out from someone who the best player is somewhere else. It’s little things like that that can make a big difference. Scouts needs to have contacts. If you’ve been around the game a long time and you’ve got a lot of contacts, that holds a lot of sway. It’s not just about going to a game and putting a report in, it’s about finding players. Every time I went to a game, I wanted to find a player."

Reading that I am hopeful that he can start to rebuild a proper scouting network for the club.

Vault Boy
04-05-2023, 12:46 AM
Pleased with this appointment if it ends up being confirmed. BD was the pick of the bunch that were public knowledge.

Forza Fred
04-05-2023, 01:38 AM
Didn’t help John Hughes much.

Mixu might not be the man, but his experience is broad, varied, and rather impressive. He’s worked across continents, managed at international level, taken on technical work with UEFA and FIFA, and he speaks four languages - which can’t hurt in a DOF role. I’m not disappointed to see his name linked, it’s a very different remit to his time as manager.

I love Mixu dearly, and he has many pluses ping for him.

However as far as recruitment goes I still remember he signed Joe Keenan when Keenan couldn’t get a club in Oz.

JimBHibees
04-05-2023, 06:04 AM
I love Mixu dearly, and he has many pluses ping for him.

However as far as recruitment goes I still remember he signed Joe Keenan when Keenan couldn’t get a club in Oz.

Always had Keenan as a. Yogi signing, obviously wrong on my part.

On the face of it McDermott seems an excellent appointment.

Alex Trager
04-05-2023, 06:18 AM
Patrick McP running with the McDermott story now as well.

Ronniekirk
04-05-2023, 06:47 AM
I'm sure I've heard of him before. Was he not like a guru at reading and got signed by arsenal?
No Method No Teacher No Guru

Paulie Walnuts
04-05-2023, 06:51 AM
McDermot was easily the best candidate out of the ones mentioned imo :agree:

Callum_62
04-05-2023, 07:04 AM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-poised-to-make-director-of-football-announcement-ahead-of-st-mirren-clash-4129409

I'm sure a poster said last week we would do the unveiling this week?

Seems to tick alot of boxes does McDermott

He must have a huge amount of contacts

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Stevie Reid
04-05-2023, 07:48 AM
Happy with that appointment.

bingo70
04-05-2023, 08:13 AM
McDermott on paper is a very good appointment imo.

Manager at a very high level, loads of experience and knowledge.

You’ve got to think a set up of

DOF - McDermott
Manager - Johnson
Head of Academy - Kean

Can only be a positive thing.

The amount of contacts those 3 must have in the UK alone is surely huge.

Really excited by this.

Found this recent interview with him - https://youtu.be/2JuAbyoj8NE

Thanks for posting this interview, really interesting.

Jones28
04-05-2023, 08:34 AM
McDermott confirmed :aok:

GreenGray
04-05-2023, 08:34 AM
Looks good on paper! Tough to know how good an appointment any DOF would be, just glad we have someone!

bingo70
04-05-2023, 08:38 AM
In terms of the experience of Scottish football factor a few are hanging onto, going by the official site, he’s done video scouting for Celtic and he’s also scouted players at many Scottish games.

This isn’t a guy we’ve just plucked from the moon with no knowledge of Scottish Football. He will know plenty about our game.

GreenGray
04-05-2023, 08:39 AM
In terms of the experience of Scottish football factor a few are hanging onto, going by the official site, he’s done video scouting for Celtic and he’s also scouted players at many Scottish games.

This isn’t a guy we’ve just plucked from the moon with no knowledge of Scottish Football. He will know plenty about our game.

Exactly, the way some people go on you would think we play a different sport up here

Garymcl
04-05-2023, 08:40 AM
Very happy with that and starting immediately :thumbsup:

Since452
04-05-2023, 08:41 AM
Sounds an astute appointment on paper.

Langlee Hibs
04-05-2023, 08:47 AM
Intriguing appointment. Fairly content that it's someone that can come in with a fresh pair of eyes who hasn't had links with the club before.

04Sauzee
04-05-2023, 08:47 AM
Sounds like a great appointment. Wish the Twitter folk would do one!!

chrisski33
04-05-2023, 08:49 AM
Sounds good so lets hope its all good in reality

Since452
04-05-2023, 08:50 AM
Sounds like a great appointment. Wish the Twitter folk would do one!!

Genuinely think some folk would rather have had Mixu. Madness.

ElginHibbie
04-05-2023, 08:50 AM
Sounds like a great appointment. Wish the Twitter folk would do one!!

We could win the league and some on Twitter would still complain about something!

Seems a good appointment on paper, interesting to see how it plays out next few months with summer recruitment but optimistic we will have learned from mistakes and have a very good team for next season

Oscar T Grouch
04-05-2023, 08:52 AM
Article on official site. Decent appointment and looking forward to see what he can offer Hibs. We have a wealth of experience across the footballing and administration side of the club now.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/brian-mcdermott-appointed-as-director-of-football

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/brian-mcdermott-career-so-far

Scooter
04-05-2023, 08:53 AM
Seems a great appointment

Trinity Hibee
04-05-2023, 08:53 AM
Positive appointment on paper. Fingers crossed we find some gems over the summer and push on next season

04Sauzee
04-05-2023, 08:56 AM
Certainly seems to be well though of at Leeds and Reading going by some of the messages of support I have seen. Some Reading fans can't believe they can't find a role for him at their club.

Vault Boy
04-05-2023, 08:59 AM
Really pleased with that. Welcome, Brian.

Jones28
04-05-2023, 09:01 AM
Article on official site. Decent appointment and looking forward to see what he can offer Hibs. We have a wealth of experience across the footballing and administration side of the club now.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/brian-mcdermott-appointed-as-director-of-football

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/brian-mcdermott-career-so-far

He didn’t mention state of the art training facilities, major red flag.

B.H.F.C
04-05-2023, 09:02 AM
Quite optimistic about this. Loads of good experience that should help address the biggest issue (recruitment) quickly.

MagicSwirlingShip
04-05-2023, 09:04 AM
A positive appointment. Welcome,Brian!

hibsbollah
04-05-2023, 09:08 AM
I knew I’d heard the name before, that Reading team he managed that won the championship were class.

Enjoying watching the video, thanks unseen work

Hibbyradge
04-05-2023, 09:12 AM
Unsure if any they names really excite me.

You ok, pal? :greengrin

Pretty Boy
04-05-2023, 09:15 AM
Don't know anything about him really beyond his Reading team that was promoted being pretty tasty and watching a really good interview with him a while back when he opened up on his alcoholism.

A DoF appointment doesn't have to be glamorous, it just needs someone who is competent and functional. Hopefully McDermott is that man.

Hibbyradge
04-05-2023, 09:16 AM
I knew I’d heard the name before, that Reading team he managed that won the championship were class.

Enjoying watching the video, thanks unseen work

What video? :confused:

Jones28
04-05-2023, 09:17 AM
What video? :confused:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JuAbyoj8NE

Hibbyradge
04-05-2023, 09:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JuAbyoj8NE

Thanks 👍

bingo70
04-05-2023, 09:19 AM
Don't know anything about him really beyond his Reading team that was promoted being pretty tasty and watching a really good interview with him a while back when he opened up on his alcoholism.

A DoF appointment doesn't have to be glamorous, it just needs someone who is competent and functional. Hopefully McDermott is that man.

I saw a clip of that interview about his alcoholism and remember being impressed with the guy. Maybe unfair as he should be judged on his merits but anybody who is brave enough to talk openly about that kind of thing in order to help others goes up in my estimation. Suspect he’s just a good guy who maybe wasn’t suited to the pressures of day to day management.

Jones28
04-05-2023, 09:20 AM
Thanks 👍

Really interesting part towards the end on sports psychologists.

wazoo1875
04-05-2023, 09:22 AM
I saw a clip of that interview about his alcoholism and remember being impressed with the guy. Maybe unfair as he should be judged on his merits but anybody who is brave enough to talk openly about that kind of thing in order to help others goes up in my estimation. Suspect he’s just a good guy who maybe wasn’t suited to the pressures of day to day management.

He touches on it again in that interview with Ger Lynch. Very open and honest about why he drank. Comes across really well. Seems like the kind of guy who would talk to you all day long. Plenty of experience. Hopefully this works out well for all parties.

Dmas
04-05-2023, 10:00 AM
I’m happy with this, guy has good experience in different roles and and has been at each end of the spectrum, didn’t know he worked with Celtic for a while so he won’t be completely blind to the Scottish game, not so sure I think that matters but a lot of noise on the socials about that aspect since the sun article so at least that’s put to bed, quite excited by this hopefully he can get to work on the scouting aspect for the window approaching straight away

Nakedmanoncrack
04-05-2023, 10:02 AM
Can't say I've ever heard of him, but looks a decent appointment on paper.

Heisenberg
04-05-2023, 10:08 AM
I like a moan about Hibs on here at times but **** me, some of the stuff on social media about this is mental. The club have detailed his experience with Scottish football and while it’s not extensive I highly doubt he has no clue about the league or the club.

Certainly looks to be the best option of the names rumoured a few days ago.

The Baldmans Comb
04-05-2023, 10:09 AM
A very dated CV and someone who doesn't seem to have done much in the last few years other than scouting a lot of it freelance since he left Arsenal.

Strangely we were touted that a very good knowledge of Scottish football was meant to be high up on the criteria list when its patently not and by his own admission has struggled with serious addiction problems which he deserves huge credit for addressing and talking about so articulately.

Certainly a coup of an appointment for McDermott then and comes from Slough and based in Berkshire for the last 10 years so him and Lee might go back a long way but good they will understand each others thought process.

Tambo
04-05-2023, 10:13 AM
Welcome to the Hibees McDermott!!

Let's push on these last 5 games of the season on the park and come back in the summer ready.

Heisenberg
04-05-2023, 10:16 AM
A very dated CV and someone who doesn't seem to have done much in the last few years other than scouting.

Strangely we were touted that a very good knowledge of Scottish football was meant to be high up on the criteria list when its patently not and by his own admission has struggled with serious addiction problems.

A coup of an appointment for McDermott then andomes from Slough and based in Berkshire for the last 10 years so him and Lee must go back a long way.

Not done much in the last few years apart from being heavily involved in scouting for one of the biggest clubs in the world and then working in consultancy across the game.

“When speaking to Hibs TV, Kensell detailed the experience, skills, and characteristics he’s ideally seeking from an incoming Director of Football. In short:

Knowledge of Scottish football
Experience of working at a senior level at a high performing club
Extensive contacts within the game
A strong background in implementing strategy and bringing sporting success”

McDermott ticks all of those boxes.

CapitalGreen
04-05-2023, 10:16 AM
I like a moan about Hibs on here at times but **** me, some of the stuff on social media about this is mental. The club have detailed his experience with Scottish football and while it’s not extensive I highly doubt he has no clue about the league or the club.

Certainly looks to be the best option of the names rumoured a few days ago.

Still folk on twitter wondering why we didn’t go for Alan Burrows… as Director of Football ffs 😂

Northernhibee
04-05-2023, 10:22 AM
Excellent appointment, very happy with that.

DinkyTwo
04-05-2023, 10:25 AM
Seems like a great appointment. Ticks all the right boxes!

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Donegal Hibby
04-05-2023, 10:26 AM
Delighted with this announcement , for me he was the standout candidate . Only thing I wish was he supported Finn Harps instead of Sligo rovers :greengrin . Welcome Brian.
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/footballsoccer/2023/05/04/news/brian_mcdermott_appointed_as_hibernian_s_director_ of_football-3254836/

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/brian-mcdermott-remit-outlined-as-former-arsenal-scout-and-leeds-united-boss-lands-hibs-director-of-football-job-4129527

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/brian-mcdermott-career-so-far

The Baldmans Comb
04-05-2023, 10:37 AM
Not done much in the last few years apart from being heavily involved in scouting for one of the biggest clubs in the world and then working in consultancy across the game.

“When speaking to Hibs TV, Kensell detailed the experience, skills, and characteristics he’s ideally seeking from an incoming Director of Football. In short:

Knowledge of Scottish football
Experience of working at a senior level at a high performing club
Extensive contacts within the game
A strong background in implementing strategy and bringing sporting success”

McDermott ticks all of those boxes.

He left Arsenal 7/8 years ago and was only chief scout for 14 months.

04Sauzee
04-05-2023, 10:39 AM
He left Arsenal 7/8 years ago and was only chief scout for 14 months.

Are you sure he left Arsenal so long ago? More like just under 3
https://i.ibb.co/0J5MK0B/Screenshot-2023-05-04-11-41-46-31-40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg (https://ibb.co/0J5MK0B)

The Sundance Kid
04-05-2023, 10:41 AM
He left Arsenal 7/8 years ago and was only chief scout for 14 months.

According to Wikipedia, he returned to the role at Arsenal for a second spell in 2016 until 2020

Bridge hibs
04-05-2023, 10:41 AM
He left Arsenal 7/8 years ago and was only chief scout for 14 months.

He was still involved in football though

McDermottt returned to his scouting role with Arsenal in June 2016, and remained in the role until the club announced a round of redundancies in August 2020. He then worked as a consultant for various organisations, including the League Managers' Association, before he was appointed director of football at Scottish club Hibernian in May 2023

The Baldmans Comb
04-05-2023, 10:42 AM
Are you sure he left Arsenal so long ago?

First time around and then seemed to go back on more of a freelance basis later after beung eading manager 2nd time though happy to be corrected and Arsenal are as big as they come.

Hibbyradge
04-05-2023, 10:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JuAbyoj8NE

That's a terrific interview. He comes across as genuine, caring individual, someone the players and staff will warm to and respect. I know it's only a snapshot, but he just seems like a lovely bloke really.

He more or less verbalised every value I have about dealing with people in your charge/care, and his views about caring for players' mental health are bang on.

CapitalGreen
04-05-2023, 10:46 AM
He left Arsenal 7/8 years ago and was only chief scout for 14 months.

Over 5 years at Arsenal as Chief International Scout over 2 periods.

Nearly 10 years as Chief Scout at Reading building the team than took them to the top flight for the first time in their history.

Greenworld
04-05-2023, 10:56 AM
Totally agree it would seem the Hibs job is perfect for Him

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JimBHibees
04-05-2023, 10:57 AM
He touches on it again in that interview with Ger Lynch. Very open and honest about why he drank. Comes across really well. Seems like the kind of guy who would talk to you all day long. Plenty of experience. Hopefully this works out well for all parties.

Watched the video really interesting guy. Liked a lot of what he said. Great experience in the football department with Johnson, Kean and McDermott. Really like this appointment. Welcome Brian.

Lago
04-05-2023, 11:04 AM
Sound appointment, well done Hibs. :aok:

JimBHibees
04-05-2023, 11:05 AM
Article on official site. Decent appointment and looking forward to see what he can offer Hibs. We have a wealth of experience across the footballing and administration side of the club now.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/brian-mcdermott-appointed-as-director-of-football

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/brian-mcdermott-career-so-far

Who is the guy walking beside Brian in the second link?

Donegal Hibby
04-05-2023, 11:15 AM
Who is the guy walking beside Brian in the second link?
Not sure , could it be our goalkeeper coach Stuart Garden by any chance ?

JimBHibees
04-05-2023, 11:22 AM
Not sure , could it be our goalkeeper coach Stuart Garden by any chance ?

Could be not sure.

CapitalGreen
04-05-2023, 11:29 AM
Not sure , could it be our goalkeeper coach Stuart Garden by any chance ?

It’s not Stuart Garden

Donegal Hibby
04-05-2023, 11:37 AM
It’s not Stuart Garden
Just a guess tbh thought it looked a bit like him .

https://images.app.goo.gl/W3odmybFh2TACM747
Wonder who it is then . Any ideas ?

BoomtownHibees
04-05-2023, 11:51 AM
Who is the guy walking beside Brian in the second link?

Looks really like John Potter but doubt it would be him

Viva_Palmeiras
04-05-2023, 11:59 AM
Can we call him “Terry”?

jeffers
04-05-2023, 12:03 PM
Encouraged by this. I know what I hope his first major decision is :greengrin

Allant1981
04-05-2023, 12:24 PM
Encouraged by this. I know what I hope his first major decision is :greengrin

To extend LJs contract😉

Since452
04-05-2023, 12:33 PM
Still folk on twitter wondering why we didn’t go for Alan Burrows… as Director of Football ffs 😂

Twitter really is the playground of idiots

SHODAN
04-05-2023, 12:36 PM
Not going to pretend I know anything about what a good DoF looks like but I'm happy enough with this.

Since452
04-05-2023, 12:36 PM
Sure we'll get a full interview with him shortly. Looking forward to hearing what he has to say.

Torto7
04-05-2023, 12:41 PM
He's a smart cookie, I remember him at Reading. I do question whether we need another salaried person who's not on the playing staff though, we must be spending a huge amount on staff atm.

Ardenttwo
04-05-2023, 01:15 PM
He's a smart cookie, I remember him at Reading. I do question whether we need another salaried person who's not on the playing staff though, we must be spending a huge amount on staff atm.

Interesting to see how much we have paid injured players. I must be a fair amount considering the injuries our club has had. One in particular has hardly kicked a ball in earnest.

Dalianwanda
04-05-2023, 01:17 PM
Delighted with this announcement , for me he was the standout candidate . Only thing I wish was he supported Finn Harps instead of Sligo rovers :greengrin . Welcome Brian.
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/footballsoccer/2023/05/04/news/brian_mcdermott_appointed_as_hibernian_s_director_ of_football-3254836/

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/brian-mcdermott-remit-outlined-as-former-arsenal-scout-and-leeds-united-boss-lands-hibs-director-of-football-job-4129527

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/brian-mcdermott-career-so-far

Mon the bit o red 😉

Iain G
04-05-2023, 01:22 PM
Interesting to see how much we have paid injured players. I must be a fair amount considering the injuries our club has had. One in particular has hardly kicked a ball in earnest.

Should we not pay them? 🤷

BS44
04-05-2023, 01:40 PM
He's a smart cookie, I remember him at Reading. I do question whether we need another salaried person who's not on the playing staff though, we must be spending a huge amount on staff atm.

I doubt he'd do the gig for free.

CapitalGreen
04-05-2023, 01:46 PM
He's a smart cookie, I remember him at Reading. I do question whether we need another salaried person who's not on the playing staff though, we must be spending a huge amount on staff atm.

Good recruitment pays for itself. Better players give better performances resulting in more prize money and potentially high transfer fees. I’d imagine BM’s salary is less than we’ve wasted in the last 12-18 months on fees and wages through poor recruitment.

Heisenberg
04-05-2023, 01:46 PM
https://twitter.com/jamiekborthwick/status/1654117704671051776?s=46&t=bdJsB3RQwSUdEBTbKsgiuQ

Hopefully hear more from the press conference tonight.

CapitalGreen
04-05-2023, 01:52 PM
A Reading fans perspective.

https://twitter.com/james_e1871/status/1654041626996531201?s=46&t=brEurjABCqnZmqhpqvZvEA

Unseen work
04-05-2023, 01:57 PM
Scouting for Arsenal and Celtic is a massive boost.

The knowledge he’ll have of player in the UK and abroad will be huge as will the contacts he will have.

Hopeful he brings in a gem or two

Oscar T Grouch
04-05-2023, 02:07 PM
Who is the guy walking beside Brian in the second link?

Its our goalie coach Stuart Garden.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/player/stuart-garden