Scottish Conference League

[Don Giovanni]

Reports suggest this will get the go ahead for 2024/2025 season.

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/conference-league-voted-spfl-clubs-26788594.amp

The four colt teams named are Aberdeen, Celtic, Hearts and Rangers.

Whilst I'm not a fan of colt teams, I wonder how this would impact Hibs youth development.

[SHODAN]

If they can't be promoted then I grudgingly accept this.

Don't understand why we're not pushing for inclusion though. Our youth teams are going to be left behind.

[Eyrie]

We've already got the vanity project Development squad so I would have thought this would be the opportunity to get them regular games.

I'm opposed to colt teams playing in the pyramid though.

[Smartie]

If they can't be promoted then I grudgingly accept this.

Don't understand why we're not pushing for inclusion though. Our youth teams are going to be left behind.

Agree on all points.

There's something about our youth set up that just doesn't sit well with me, I think it's at strategic level. Whilst we seem to be able to win trophies at various age levels and Steve Kean seems to get a lot of plaudits, we don't seem to be in a position where we're getting players with decent contracts breaking into the first team squad. We seem to have had a few botched attempts at link ups to play games with English teams yet now turn our noses up at this set up? Do we have faith that by going their own way Hibs know better than Hearts, Aberdeen and the Glasgow lot?

It sort of fits in with the bizarre strategic decisions that Hibs in general have taken over the past few years tbh.

[Pretty Boy]

When I first heard about this a while back Hibs were definitely spoken about as being one of the 4 colts teams. Obviously something has changed behind the scenes.

[Onceinawhile]

We've already got the vanity project Development squad so I would have thought this would be the opportunity to get them regular games.

I'm opposed to colt teams playing in the pyramid though.

This would stop them going out on loan though, as they'd already have a team they were registered with and, it would mean they are playing at least a level or two below where we would hope they would be.

Surely if there's a prospect - take megwa for example that we are hoping can progress, we would want him playing in league 1 or the championship rather than a league that standard wise will be lower than league 2.

[Alfiembra]

Read this earlier today and was quite shocked by the stats regarding young players progressing to the 1st team and getting game time. Suggests there’s too big a gap between academy players and 1st team to risk playing the kids and the fear factor for managers being brave enough to play them.

Scottish football: Are young players getting chance to flourish?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65394532

[Smartie]

This would stop them going out on loan though, as they'd already have a team they were registered with and, it would mean they are playing at least a level or two below where we would hope they would be.

Surely if there's a prospect - take megwa for example that we are hoping can progress, we would want him playing in league 1 or the championship rather than a league that standard wise will be lower than league 2.

I think that's reasonable when it comes to maybe our most promising half dozen or so players.

But what about the rest of them, those that are a bit further away from being first team ready? How much competitive football are they going to get?

[wallpaperman]

If they can't be promoted then I grudgingly accept this.

Don't understand why we're not pushing for inclusion though. Our youth teams are going to be left behind.

You know they will push and push for promotion to be allowed and will eventually get their way.

Horrendous for the 6 Highland/Lowland League teams stuck in that, with only 1 escaping up the way each year.

[green day]

You know they will push and push for promotion to be allowed and will eventually get their way.

Horrendous for the 6 Highland/Lowland League teams stuck in that, with only 1 escaping up the way each year.

Its obviously only there to help Rangers and Celtic Colts anyway, so I think you are right.

[Lago]

Its obviously only there to help Rangers and Celtic Colts anyway, so I think you are right.
Forgive my cynicism, but everything about Scottish football today is only there to help Rangers and Celtic.

[davhibby]

If they can't be promoted then I grudgingly accept this.

Don't understand why we're not pushing for inclusion though. Our youth teams are going to be left behind.

Left behind how? On the basis of how Hearts got on in the Lowland league this season they’ll be spending their time getting hammered likely playing everyone 4 times meaning almost half the games will be against youth teams anyway. If we were loaning out players to this level they’d be miles off getting a game for our first team. We’re better doing what we’ve been doing but using loans better, if people are anywhere our first team they need minutes in League 1/Championship not 3 levels below that in what will end up likely the least competitive league in the country

[Hibee Daft]

What about the following:

Each SPL team can choose or link up with lower division teams until the lower division team is in the SPL.


This means Hibernian could give more than 3 players to either Spartans or Edinburgh FC.

When it cones to the new season there could be an SPL youth draft abit like the MLS system.

Id maybe go to say Edinburgh City vs Spartans if it was full of hibs and hearts youth players. Would be like a mini derby.

[green day]

Forgive my cynicism, but everything about Scottish football today is only there to help Rangers and Celtic.

Aye, fair point :greengrin

However, as a poster above notes, we nominally have a pyramid system to allow ambitious clubs to prosper - and if this move stifles it then there is even less of a point.

[Waxy]

Pretty bad that Celtic Rangers Hearts and Aberdeens b sides can get shoehorned into a new 5th teir league without earning the place.
Surely this is the SFA giving these clubs an advantage over the rest.
Does it not also ruin the integrity of the pyramid system?
Something is very wrong about this.

[CapitalGreen]

Having a look at Rangers B team online and their squad list contains 16 players born outwith Scotland. If they are genuinely concerned about stifling Scottish talent maybe they could review that.

[Paulie Walnuts]

What about the following:

Each SPL team can choose or link up with lower division teams until the lower division team is in the SPL.


This means Hibernian could give more than 3 players to either Spartans or Edinburgh FC.

When it cones to the new season there could be an SPL youth draft abit like the MLS system.

Id maybe go to say Edinburgh City vs Spartans if it was full of hibs and hearts youth players. Would be like a mini derby.

I’d imagine these teams will have ambitions of being more than glorified youth teams for Hibs and Hearts.

[GreenCastle]

I’m confused with this..

So the B teams are paying 100k to enter a new "made up league" and 6 others will join them?

They will then leave the lowland league and all the teams they have paid off the last 3 seasons will now be stuck even further behind ? Find it harder to get promoted.

We will have a new league where 4 teams can’t get promoted ? So the team finishing 5th could still be promoted ?

Scottish football is all about self interest.

Sounds like a great plan!

[GreenGray]

This is a sham League invented not to develop talent but to allow two certain teams to hoard their youth players.


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[ballengeich]

Who's actually in favour of this? The Lowland League was mixed regarding the continuation of B teams, far less the proposed change, and the Highland League's very much against because of the additional travel and the loss of profitable derbys.

Fans of lower division teams realise that the next step will be allowing promotion into league 2 and don't want it.

Currently there's an legal agreement that the winners of the Highland League or Lowland League play off for promotion against the bottom team from division 2. That would have to be changed and the Highland League in particular might block an amendment (though if the price is right ....).

People may not be aware that there are other B teams in the system already. Stirling University have a division 2 East of Scotland team in addition to their Lowland League team, while Clachnacuddin and Nairn County field reserve teams in the Caledonian league below the Highland League. If other clubs want to enter B teams where will they be slotted in?

However as always it's likely that what two clubs want will be imposed on the rest. One question I have is how the results of the change will be evaluated.

[Eyrie]

I think that's reasonable when it comes to maybe our most promising half dozen or so players.

But what about the rest of them, those that are a bit further away from being first team ready? How much competitive football are they going to get?

Realistically, how many of our youths will go onto to have a decent career, let alone at Hibs? It's why I'm so against having a development squad when the budget could be used to get better players for the first team.

Frankly I'd stick with having an u18s team and after that any good youngsters can be on the bench for us or lent out. I'd also reinstate the reserve league ahead of this B team nonsense which would be a chance for both youngsters and fringe players to get a full match.

[Since90+2]

Purely from a selfish point of view I'd like to see Hibs in it as I'd probably try and get to a game or two if they played at Ainslie Or Meadwowbank.

Tickets would be cheap and you'd get to see some of our potential first team players.

[Malthibby]

Scottish Con League.
The Uglies are the only reason this is happening.
The pyramid system has been working, plenty of teams outside the Scottish League spending money on players
and facilities, increasing interest in the lower leagues and they are now going to be limited by self-serving B teams who have bought their way in.
Scottish footie at its worst.

[chippy]

This would stop them going out on loan though, as they'd already have a team they were registered with and, it would mean they are playing at least a level or two below where we would hope they would be.

Surely if there's a prospect - take megwa for example that we are hoping can progress, we would want him playing in league 1 or the championship rather than a league that standard wise will be lower than league 2.
It’s still a good level for 16-20 year olds. It guarantees game time for them vs men rather than being out on loan and not getting much of a chance. The ones who do well will get spotted and go out on loan to league 1, 2 and champs. Also provides an opportunity for a few late developers. Megwa could have been playing the last 18 months at this level had it been in place and Hibs were part of it

[chippy]

Purely from a selfish point of view I'd like to see Hibs in it as I'd probably try and get to a game or two if they played at Ainslie Or Meadwowbank.

Tickets would be cheap and you'd get to see some of our potential first team players.
Yep I’d be going to see a few games too

[chippy]

Scottish Con League.
The Uglies are the only reason this is happening.
The pyramid system has been working, plenty of teams outside the Scottish League spending money on players
and facilities, increasing interest in the lower leagues and they are now going to be limited by self-serving B teams who have bought their way in.
Scottish footie at its worst.

Have the pyramid for part timers and neo amateurs, then stop. Spfl for full time clubs only

[chippy]

Realistically, how many of our youths will go onto to have a decent career, let alone at Hibs? It's why I'm so against having a development squad when the budget could be used to get better players for the first team.

Frankly I'd stick with having an u18s team and after that any good youngsters can be on the bench for us or lent out. I'd also reinstate the reserve league ahead of this B team nonsense which would be a chance for both youngsters and fringe players to get a full match.
There is a reserve league which we won in a canter with our under 19s. It’s a youth league which is why it was abandoned by the big clubs

[chippy]

Just to wind everyone up, I’m sure the B teams will step by step get promoted to league2 and 1, possibly stopping there.

[Logie Green]

Just to wind everyone up, I’m sure the B teams will step by step get promoted to league2 and 1, possibly stopping there.

Rod Petrie was proposing B teams being promoted up to Championship level at a fans forum at ER about 10 years ago.

[hibby rae]

Have the pyramid for part timers and neo amateurs, then stop. Spfl for full time clubs only

Roughly 50% of the SPFL is part-time so that would mean only 22 teams.

[hibby rae]

There is a reserve league which we won in a canter with our under 19s. It’s a youth league which is why it was abandoned by the big clubs

You can have older players though because Daz plays with them.

[chippy]

You can have older players though because Daz plays with them.

I don’t think there’s any development left in Daz as a player. Coach yes

[chippy]

Roughly 50% of the SPFL is part-time so that would mean only 22 teams.

Ok happy to go with that as a full time professional league. Add 6-10 B teams and you’ve got a 16 team premier and 12-16 team championship. Only full time outfits meeting certain criteria should get into the full time set up. Stadia , fan base, area of country , 20 minimum full timers, reserve or B team, youth team, etc

[hibby rae]

Ok happy to go with that as a full time professional league. Add 6-10 B teams and you’ve got a 16 team premier and 12-16 team championship. Only full time outfits meeting certain criteria should get into the full time set up. Stadia , fan base, area of country , 20 minimum full timers, reserve or B team, youth team, etc

That sounds like a terrible idea to me. You would want half of the Championship to be B teams that no one really would be bothered about?

A part time team like Bonnyrigg gets far more people through the gate than any B team, and creating stadium requirements put a lot of FT clubs into administration in the past when building grounds that they would never fill.

[chippy]

That sounds like a terrible idea to me. You would want half of the Championship to be B teams that no one really would be bothered about?

A part time team like Bonnyrigg gets far more people through the gate than any B team, and creating stadium requirements put a lot of FT clubs into administration in the past when building grounds that they would never fill.
Great for the Rose but it does nothing absolutely zero for the standards of a Scottish football. Realistically I could see us having 24-28 f/t professional clubs. Add in 6 B teams and that should be it. If there was to be a way into a full time SPFL then the criteria should be strict and water tight. Let the other clubs have a pyramid but it stops at the spfl Premier and Championship unless someone goes bust.

[hibby rae]

Great for the Rose but it does nothing absolutely zero for the standards of a Scottish football. Realistically I could see us having 24-28 f/t professional clubs. Add in 6 B teams and that should be it. If there was to be a way into a full time SPFL then the criteria should be strict and water tight. Let the other clubs have a pyramid but it stops at the spfl Premier and Championship unless someone goes bust.

I see no reason why B teams would raise the standard, i.e. Hearts B in the Lowland League, all you'd be doing is promoting some teams well above their abilities to get pumped every week.

Plus fans aren't interested in these games, 260 watched Hibs B last time they played a senior team, and with gate money being the bigest source of income for clubs, you're hitting them financially too.

Not having a pyramid runs the risk of Scottish football becoming dull, you need the jeopardy and the opportunity.

[davhibby]

Ok happy to go with that as a full time professional league. Add 6-10 B teams and you’ve got a 16 team premier and 12-16 team championship. Only full time outfits meeting certain criteria should get into the full time set up. Stadia , fan base, area of country , 20 minimum full timers, reserve or B team, youth team, etc

This has to be a wind up, either that or you’re absolutely clueless about what makes football any good. It’s also worth noting that the last time we had criteria like that around promotion etc multiple clubs almost killed themselves trying to adhere to it.

[Waxy]

Just to wind everyone up, I’m sure the B teams will step by step get promoted to league2 and 1, possibly stopping there.

How horrific.

[Glory Lurker]

I'm against clubs being represented in more than one division. I won't be interested in how a Hibs B in the pyramid was getting on, let alone going to see them.

Our game is stagnating. We're a small country with only so many players and a pyramid that is already about stopping relegation rather than awarding progress. The last thing we need is another layer. And one specifically designed for the benefit of top clubs

[chippy]

This has to be a wind up, either that or you’re absolutely clueless about what makes football any good. It’s also worth noting that the last time we had criteria like that around promotion etc multiple clubs almost killed themselves trying to adhere to it.

It’s not a wind up. Provocative perhaps. My football interest is specifically Hibs for the last 60 years of my life and then the Scotland national team. Apart from that I like to see Scottish clubs , doing well in Europe like in the good old days of the 50s through to the 80s. I believe strongly and have for many years that the only way to develop elite footballers in our small country is through the professional clubs coaching systems/ academies. I simply don’t see the bottom up pyramid system as being any use in that process. I want a larger top league supported by a championship ideally 2 leagues of 16 but these ought to be full time clubs with an academy structure. Yes I want 6 B teams in the 2nd tier which is common practice in many European countries and I want Hibs to be one of them. This will lead to faster/ better pathways for the most talented young players in our country. Sure late developers will still rise through the part time/ amateur pyramid and will get picked up and cherry picked. Loans probably won’t be required though there may be some movement between the professional and part time clubs in that respect.

[King conrad]

Just to wind everyone up, I’m sure the B teams will step by step get promoted to league2 and 1, possibly stopping there.

No chance.
Old firm B teams have been in the Lowland league for two year now and not won it.Hearts alot further down the table.

Not sure why you think they would get up through the league's easily.
Young lads playing against good experienced players .
I've said it before, guys at this level are still good players

[chippy]

No chance.
Old firm B teams have been in the Lowland league for two year now and not won it.Hearts alot further down the table.

Not sure why you think they would get up through the league's easily.
Young lads playing against good experienced players .
I've said it before, guys at this level are still good players

Sevco B and Celtic B 2 and 3 points respectively behind winners Spartan. I think there’s a chance

[Phil MaGlass]

It’s not a wind up. Provocative perhaps. My football interest is specifically Hibs for the last 60 years of my life and then the Scotland national team. Apart from that I like to see Scottish clubs , doing well in Europe like in the good old days of the 50s through to the 80s. I believe strongly and have for many years that the only way to develop elite footballers in our small country is through the professional clubs coaching systems/ academies. I simply don’t see the bottom up pyramid system as being any use in that process. I want a larger top league supported by a championship ideally 2 leagues of 16 but these ought to be full time clubs with an academy structure. Yes I want 6 B teams in the 2nd tier which is common practice in many European countries and I want Hibs to be one of them. This will lead to faster/ better pathways for the most talented young players in our country. Sure late developers will still rise through the part time/ amateur pyramid and will get picked up and cherry picked. Loans probably won’t be required though there may be some movement between the professional and part time clubs in that respect.

Happens in Holland, there are 4 young teams in the second tier, their players get a better game than they would against similar colt teams and helps bring the young players on as they are playing against a better quality of opposition. Does it devalue the second tier in Holland? I'm on the fence wae that one as there's 20 teams in the league and only one is in the top ten. I do believe it makes them better all round players and definitely think this should happen in Scotland, but our second tier needs to be bigger to accommodate it, having a second tier full of colt teams doesn't seem much of a second tier and definitely devalues it. Imagine if the top 8 clubs in Scotland all had a colts team in the second tier? It wouldn't make much of a second tier.
Hibs are missing the boat on this one, it works in Holland, our young players need more exposure to playing regularly with seasoned players. Another bonus is the clubs in the lower tier don't see them as a threat and don't go out of their way to injure these young boys as they are the future of their game.

[Smartie]

I'm against clubs being represented in more than one division. I won't be interested in how a Hibs B in the pyramid was getting on, let alone going to see them.

Our game is stagnating. We're a small country with only so many players and a pyramid that is already about stopping relegation rather than awarding progress. The last thing we need is another layer. And one specifically designed for the benefit of top clubs

Is our game really stagnating though? By what measure?

The national team is as good as it’s been in decades. We have players now playing for some of the biggest clubs in the game, winning the biggest trophies in the game.

Rangers reached a European final last year.

Crowds for all teams other than Rangers and Celtic in the top league are up this season, theirs are where they are due to capacity. In terms of attendances per head of population Scotland always comes out on top.

Our tv deal could be better, and I think the clubs of the size of Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen need to do much better than they do.

But I think there’s a temptation to view our country as an underachieving behemoth when in reality we do ok for a small country, albeit one that historically overachieved.

I accept and agree that the nation’s focus on the performance of Rangers and Celtic as the only thing that matters in Scotland is unhelpful and wrong.

[Eyrie]

Taken from the Alexander-Arnold thread.


Good article with Trent Alexander Arnold this morning, focussing on those who drop out of academies and miss out on professional football completely.

One of the worst parts was later when he says that many players are strung along when in reality the coaches know they probably wont make it - and they are only kept on to make numbers up for the one or two real "talents" in the group.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/apr/30/liverpool-trent-alexander-arnold-on-football-academies-and-the-games-brutal-talent-machine

Which is something to be borne in mind when discussing the B teams or the current development squad.

I don't see it as a good use of our budget to have a B Team when only one or two of the players will make it with Hibs and the rest won't. A couple of them may have the potential but don't fulfill it which still leaves 8-12 wages which individually aren't much but in aggregate make a difference. 3 youths on £350/week means we could offer an extra £1050/week to attract a better standard of first team player. We can also save the running costs of the B team.

It would be a different story if we were consistently bringing through 3-4 players each season and then selling a couple of them a few years later for fees that would cover the cost of the B team, but that hasn't happened. There's a good reason we have to look as far back as the golden generation of Brown, Thomson, Fletcher, Whittaker, Riordan and O'Conner.

I'm in favour of developing our best youths by sending them on loan to teams where they have a decent chance of earning playing time in a competitive environment where they can learn from experienced team mates who in turn are relying on them to contribute to promotion, league placings or win bonuses. That pressure isn't there in a B team surrounded by fellow youngsters and with no chance of promotion.

[chippy]

Interesting debate about B teams. Surely the model needs to be tried out properly by Hibs to see if it suits us and is a good investment. I would imagine it would be appealing to a young lad aged 15/16 that there was a pathway from under 18 youth football, then a B team in men’s football at age 16-20, potential loans after that to league 1 or championship or even lower premier. Then first team.
Fascinating that there are only 9 clubs in the under 18 league, 8 of them premier. Too many journeymen in the other premier and Championship squads. How does youth get a chance ?

[Billy Whizz]

Sounds like Hibs aren’t joining it!

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/why-hibs-have-chosen-not-to-go-down-b-team-route-amid-scottish-conference-league-plans-4124357

[Unseen work]

Sounds like Hibs aren’t joining it!

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/why-hibs-have-chosen-not-to-go-down-b-team-route-amid-scottish-conference-league-plans-4124357

Agree with the clubs decision.

Well done Hibs.

[Ringothedog]

Sounds like Hibs aren’t joining it!

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/why-hibs-have-chosen-not-to-go-down-b-team-route-amid-scottish-conference-league-plans-4124357

Good, it’s just another vanity project from the clubs involved who are ignoring all the lower League clubs and their ambitions. This crazy league will last a few seasons at most

[chippy]

Good, it’s just another vanity project from the clubs involved who are ignoring all the lower League clubs and their ambitions. This crazy league will last a few seasons at most

I think the real problem for Hibs is the £100k joining fee

[Paul1642]

Happens in Holland, there are 4 young teams in the second tier, their players get a better game than they would against similar colt teams and helps bring the young players on as they are playing against a better quality of opposition. Does it devalue the second tier in Holland? I'm on the fence wae that one as there's 20 teams in the league and only one is in the top ten. I do believe it makes them better all round players and definitely think this should happen in Scotland, but our second tier needs to be bigger to accommodate it, having a second tier full of colt teams doesn't seem much of a second tier and definitely devalues it. Imagine if the top 8 clubs in Scotland all had a colts team in the second tier? It wouldn't make much of a second tier.
Hibs are missing the boat on this one, it works in Holland, our young players need more exposure to playing regularly with seasoned players. Another bonus is the clubs in the lower tier don't see them as a threat and don't go out of their way to injure these young boys as they are the future of their game.

Is it really better for young player’s development to play against a team of fully grown men? We already have an issue in this county with the “not big enough to make it” mindset. It’s been said semi jokingly that if Messi came through a Scottish youth team he’d have been punted.

Chucking a talented but still growing smaller laddie in against a team of big guys is going to do nothing for him, especially when he is surrounded by other youths rather than having the like of Darren McGregor around to pick up some of the slack and to coach him as he plays.

If it proves to be a good move for the other 4 teams then we shouldn’t have much issue joining in at a later date.

[Bridge hibs]

I think the real problem for Hibs is the £100k joining fee

I doubt it

[Ringothedog]

I think the real problem for Hibs is the £100k joining fee

Based on?

[chippy]

Based on?

Empirical evidence just like everyone else’s opinions on here

[connerg]

Is it really better for young player’s development to play against a team of fully grown men? We already have an issue in this county with the “not big enough to make it” mindset. It’s been said semi jokingly that if Messi came through a Scottish youth team he’d have been punted.

Chucking a talented but still growing smaller laddie in against a team of big guys is going to do nothing for him, especially when he is surrounded by other youths rather than having the like of Darren McGregor around to pick up some of the slack and to coach him as he plays.

If it proves to be a good move for the other 4 teams then we shouldn’t have much issue joining in at a later date.

No, but Leanne Dempster said it is! I thank her for what she achieved at Hibs. However, she was speaking on behalf of two Glasgow clubs.

[04Sauzee]

Aberdeen won't be taking part

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/aberdeen-reject-scottish-conference-league-26915810

[Dmas]

Agree with the clubs decision.

Well done Hibs.

Same here, I actually think the idea we have now with the Dev squad is right we just need to improve it in practice, more games is of course the biggest improvement needed, DoF now in place with fresh ideas maybe help that along.

I think young players benefit more when they’re able to play alongside older pros rather than kicked up and down by them, a team of kids with inclusions of older heads like daz or returning players like Rocky just now helps the progress much more than being kicked up and down of some guy just off a building site

[Billy Whizz]

Same here, I actually think the idea we have now with the Dev squad is right we just need to improve it in practice, more games is of course the biggest improvement needed, DoF now in place with fresh ideas maybe help that along.

I think young players benefit more when they’re able to play alongside older pros rather than kicked up and down by them, a team of kids with inclusions of older heads like daz or returning players like Rocky just now helps the progress much more than being kicked up and down of some guy just off a building site

The biggest worry is getting enough games. That’s has been the problem this season, although if a few are on loan, that will help too

[04Sauzee]

Queens Park are reportedly interested after Aberdeen rules themselves out.

[chippy]

Queens Park are reportedly interested after Aberdeen rules themselves out.

I’m sure the old firm and hearts will be delighted to have QP rather than Hibs and Dons

[green day]

Queens Park are reportedly interested after Aberdeen rules themselves out.

Queens Park are rapidly turning into publicity whores...............

[Billy Whizz]

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/23521458.radical-rules-considered-give-young-scots-opportunity/

A good read on home grown players. Noticed in another article that the likes of Celtic need to have 8 home grown players in their squad to play in the champions league next season

The governing body’s rules dictate that clubs competing in their competitions must have a minimum of eight ‘locally-trained’ players in a named 25-man squad. There are two categories here: the first being club-trained players who were on the clubs books for three years between the ages of 15 and 21. The second is association-trained talent – players who were with another Scottish club for three years between 15 and 21. It is stipulated that the homegrown quota can have no more than four from the latter category.
Presume Hibs etc will face this if we get into Europe next season

[Viva_Palmeiras]

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/23521458.radical-rules-considered-give-young-scots-opportunity/

A good read on home grown players. Noticed in another article that the likes of Celtic need to have 8 home grown players in their squad to play in the champions league next season

The governing body’s rules dictate that clubs competing in their competitions must have a minimum of eight ‘locally-trained’ players in a named 25-man squad. There are two categories here: the first being club-trained players who were on the clubs books for three years between the ages of 15 and 21. The second is association-trained talent – players who were with another Scottish club for three years between 15 and 21. It is stipulated that the homegrown quota can have no more than four from the latter category.
Presume Hibs etc will face this if we get into Europe next season

Everything happens for a reason. Hence the academy, development. But beware the poaching… - the easiest way the for bigger buys to disrupt any chances of a conveyer belt.

[Dmas]

The biggest worry is getting enough games. That’s has been the problem this season, although if a few are on loan, that will help too

100% a good games plan is needed, I know they had plans just before covid and something happened to put the blockers on a tournament we where arranging this season, you’ll be much more clued up on it than me Billy but there’s been nowhere close to enough games this season for boys not on loan deals, be interesting to see how it pans out, I also liked the idea of linking up with teams looks as if it’s all fallen stale with that as well Edin city and Stenhousemuir don’t seem to have had many off us don’t know if we’re still using the strollers for the younger guys

[HIBS NUTS]

100% a good games plan is needed, I know they had plans just before covid and something happened to put the blockers on a tournament we where arranging this season, you’ll be much more clued up on it than me Billy but there’s been nowhere close to enough games this season for boys not on loan deals, be interesting to see how it pans out, I also liked the idea of linking up with teams looks as if it’s all fallen stale with that as well Edin city and Stenhousemuir don’t seem to have had many off us don’t know if we’re still using the strollers for the younger guys

F C EDINBURGH weren’t happy with standard of the last 3 players, or their commitment.
Some on here, say different, but 2 of the players released back to hibs left our club, within weeks.
Alan Deff. is still with us 👍🏻

[hibby rae]

F C EDINBURGH weren’t happy with standard of the last 3 players, or their commitment.
Some on here, say different, but 2 of the players released back to hibs left our club, within weeks.
Alan Deff. is still with us 👍🏻

But they had Jack Brydon on loan twice? Seems an odd thing to do if you're not happy with the standard

I always thought them losing 3 players from an already small squad was one of the reasons their form dipped in the 2nd half of the season

[CapitalGreen]

F C EDINBURGH weren’t happy with standard of the last 3 players, or their commitment.
Some on here, say different, but 2 of the players released back to hibs left our club, within weeks.
Alan Deff. is still with us 👍🏻

They didn’t rate Jack Brydon? They had him on loan last season and took him back again this season. Their fans weren’t happy to see him go.

The reality is they didn’t like the training arrangement they had signed up to where the players would continue to train with Hibs during the week and spat the dummy. Ultimately looks like it ended up costing them a place in the playoffs.

[Waxy]

If they can't be promoted then I grudgingly accept this.

Don't understand why we're not pushing for inclusion though. Our youth teams are going to be left behind.

No chance. Turning the very important 5th teir of the pyramid into some wonky league to benefit the old firm?
The sporting integrity would be straight out the window as hearts b (why are they doing this?) finish bottom every year and Rangers and Celtic play strong teams one week and weak teams the next(depending on first team stuff)
This proposal is nuts ands proves the old firm have the SFA and SPFL in their pocket.
B teams should be nowhere near the league system.
I’d love Hibs to come out with a stringly worsed statement against this sham of a league.
Scottish football is about every club.
Lets be fair.
Again though, what is hearts part in this?