Let's talk about Mickey Devlin

[California-Hibs]

Why did we bring him in and have given him literally 0 minutes so far? On Sunday Hanlon was out, so to partner Will Fish Johnson decides to pull CJ Riely out from midfield where he's been providing energy and bite and puts him at centre half.....all while we have a fit and ready natural and experienced centre half sitting on the bench in Mickey Devlin?!

I just don't get it, one of the many baffling decisions recently by Lee. Anyone care to give a stab at why the hell Devlin hasn't even been given minutes from the bench?

[bingo70]

Why did we bring him in and have given him literally 0 minutes so far? On Sunday Hanlon was out, so to partner Will Fish Johnson decides to pull CJ Riely out from midfield where he's been providing energy and bite and puts him at centre half.....all while we have a fit and ready natural and experienced centre half sitting on the bench in Mickey Devlin?!

I just don't get it, one of the many baffling decisions recently by Lee. Anyone care to give a stab at why the hell Devlin hasn't even been given minutes from the bench?

He’s not match fit.

It begs the question why bother even signing him then but LJ said last week I think it was they were still working on getting him up to speed.

[PHeffernan]

The other red flag was when Fish came off injured against Celtic and Devlin didn't replace him.
You can only assume he is carrying an injury and they don't want to aggravate it but in that case why is he on the bench.
If journalists were any good they would have asked questions.

[California-Hibs]

Exactly, if he's fit enough to be included on the bench then he's fit enough to make an appearance. Otherwise why not fill his spot with a youngster on the bench?

Not buying it

[MWHIBBIES]

He's for emergency only I guess. Ridiculous it's got to this stage, but it makes sense. He could've broken down injured after 20 minutes if we chucked him in.

[Smartie]

Is bringing someone in then not giving them a chance, leaving everyone to speculate why we bought them in the first place not now quintessentially the Hibernian way?

[JamesHFC]

Been here for 2 months now, surely must be ready to play. Understandable that he didn’t get any minutes during our good run but Hanlon being out was an opportunity to get him in and keep E-R in a position he had been doing well in. The Celtic game would have been an appropriate time to bring him on and give him some minutes as someone mentioned.

[The Modfather]

Sell Porteous and wait until after the window closes to bring in a replacement that can’t actually be used. Another win for the recruitment team.

[Billy Whizz]

He’s not match fit.

It begs the question why bother even signing him then but LJ said last week I think it was they were still working on getting him up to speed.

Could have played in 2 reserve matches recently

[Paulie Walnuts]

Said at the time he was a terrible signing and hed probably get no minutes. Made absolutely no sense at the time and makes even less sense now.

[Unseen work]

I got quite a bit of stick at the time for saying Devlin wasn’t a good signing.

Nothing to do with ability as when he is fit he’s a good player.

My point at the time was imo we needed to add a centre back even with having Porteous, it was an area I thought we needed to improve anyway, albeit I never knew Fish would be anywhere near as good as he is.

My point with Devlin is that Johnson said he wanted first team quality and players that were able to come in , hit the ground running and had been playing regularly so they wouldn’t need that time to get upto speed.

We don’t sign any centre half during the widow and then sign Devlin who hardly played for fleetwood and before that hardly played for Aberdeen in years.

He was never going to come in and be match sharp.

[Pretty Boy]

I think he'll play on Saturday if Hanlon isn't fit.

I don't think we can go with that CB pairing again. Also Johnson loves a curve ball in a derby. Fish at RB, McKirdy starting from nowhere, Stevenson in midfield.......

[Mcbizz1998]

It’s especially curious as he is a known quantity in this league. It’s not like he is some obscure foreign player who was signed on the basis of a YouTube video and then turned out to be pony upon closer inspection.

[chippy]

Said at the time he was a terrible signing and hed probably get no minutes. Made absolutely no sense at the time and makes even less sense now.
Possibly a block on signings by our new owners?

[MWHIBBIES]

Possibly a block on signings by our new owners?

What?

[Bostonhibby]

He's for emergency only I guess. Ridiculous it's got to this stage, but it makes sense. He could've broken down injured after 20 minutes if we chucked him in.I believe you are right.

All comes down to what the current stewards of our club class as an emergency, making sure we can match up to the bottom club in the league on a bad run of form wasn't one I guess.

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[Heisenberg]

A complete waste of time signing him. Panic stations after we failed to replace Porteous.

[Hibbyradge]

A complete waste of time signing him. Panic stations after we failed to replace Porteous.

Wasn't it more when Rocky got injured?

[Ronniekirk]

He’s not match fit.

It begs the question why bother even signing him then but LJ said last week I think it was they were still working on getting him up to speed.
So why have him on the Bench Doesn’t make sense If he couldn’t manage even 20 minutes off the bench now then it’s hard to see how he is ever going to be ready to play 90 minutes if needed
He hasn’t been played in reserve or under 23 games
If he needs to get match fit then surely he should be playing in these

[Ronniekirk]

Could have played in 2 reserve matches recently
Exactly Billy

[Big_Franck]

He's a total crock and was always going to be a waste of a signing. We were hoping against hope that his long standing injury problems would suddenly clear up when he signed for us. Why anyone at the club would think he was worth signing was baffling.

[Smartie]

He's a total crock and was always going to be a waste of a signing. We were hoping against hope that his long standing injury problems would suddenly clear up when he signed for us. Why anyone at the club would think he was worth signing was baffling.

Even if he’s on buttons, as he’s mainly interested in working on his fitness rather than playing first team football at this stage?

(No knowledge here, speculating/ hypothesising).

[GreenCastle]

Feels like last few years we have always signed someone who hardly plays a minute for us..

I’m sure someone can name them all ?

[JammyDoidger]

He doesn't even play in the development games or that does he? Seems a complete waste of time when we were trying to get the numbers down, be aswell just playing big Daz tbh.

[matty_f]

He’s not match fit.

It begs the question why bother even signing him then but LJ said last week I think it was they were still working on getting him up to speed.

How much fitter would he need to be to last 90 minutes at Centre half in a game we were totally expected to dominate. How much running does a CH do in a match like that? He’s been here months, surely to **** he’d fit Enough to play by now?!

[Unseen work]

Feels like last few years we have always signed someone who hardly plays a minute for us..

I’m sure someone can name them all ?


Ok you got me intrigued so I had a look back to our championship days.

Current;

Devlin
Tavares
Hauge - Remember him?
You could add about 10 that are ‘development players’ like Tait, Mackay, Delferriere, McLellend etc but they have time.

Ex players;

Nathan Wood
Dillon Barnes
Gael Bigirimana
Jonathon Spector
Darnell Johnson
Charalampos Mavrias
Miquel Nelom
Deivydas Matulevcius
Cammy Bell
Scott Bain 🤣
Facyal Rherras
Neal Eardley
Scott Gallacher - Genuinely can’t remember him at all
Brian McLean
Antonio Reguero
Otso Virtanen
Dan Carmichael
Jamie Insall
Islam Feruz
Adam Eckersley
Jake Sinclair

A lot never played a minute, some couldn’t have played more than 10.

[Pretty Boy]

Ok you got me intrigued so I had a look back to our championship days.

Current;

Devlin
Tavares
Hauge - Remember him?
You could add about 10 that are ‘development players’ like Tait, Mackay, Delferriere, McLellend etc but they have time.

Ex players;

Nathan Wood
Dillon Barnes
Gael Bigirimana
Jonathon Spector
Darnell Johnson
Charalampos Mavrias
Miquel Nelom
Deivydas Matulevcius
Cammy Bell
Scott Bain 🤣
Facyal Rherras
Neal Eardley
Scott Gallacher - Genuinely can’t remember him at all
Brian McLean
Antonio Reguero
Otso Virtanen
Dan Carmichael
Jamie Insall
Islam Feruz
Adam Eckersley
Jake Sinclair

A lot never played a minute, some couldn’t have played more than 10.

The thing with that list is guys like Mavrias, Spector, McLean and Bell were signed as cover (as was Devlin). The difference is that they were all available and utilised when needed, even if it was only once or twice. Johnson was bemoaning having to play 2 inexperienced CBs on Saturday yet we had Devlin on the bench. If he's not available or ready to play now then he's not really cover at all. An unavailable player is cover for nobody.

[GreenCastle]

Ok you got me intrigued so I had a look back to our championship days.

Current;

Devlin
Tavares
Hauge - Remember him?
You could add about 10 that are ‘development players’ like Tait, Mackay, Delferriere, McLellend etc but they have time.

Ex players;

Nathan Wood
Dillon Barnes
Gael Bigirimana
Jonathon Spector
Darnell Johnson
Charalampos Mavrias
Miquel Nelom
Deivydas Matulevcius
Cammy Bell
Scott Bain 🤣
Facyal Rherras
Neal Eardley
Scott Gallacher - Genuinely can’t remember him at all
Brian McLean
Antonio Reguero
Otso Virtanen
Dan Carmichael
Jamie Insall
Islam Feruz
Adam Eckersley
Jake Sinclair

A lot never played a minute, some couldn’t have played more than 10.

Wow - the exact list we needed to see.

Personally don't get the signing for cover chat and not going to be used?

Every player we sign should be able to be used otherwise we are just blocking the youth pathway.

[Cod Boy]

Be better with the boy McClelland on the bench he has been playing in reserve/development games and looked competent at the start of the season.

[JimBHibees]

How much fitter would he need to be to last 90 minutes at Centre half in a game we were totally expected to dominate. How much running does a CH do in a match like that? He’s been here months, surely to **** he’d fit Enough to play by now?!

Very valid point

[JimBHibees]

I got quite a bit of stick at the time for saying Devlin wasn’t a good signing.

Nothing to do with ability as when he is fit he’s a good player.

My point at the time was imo we needed to add a centre back even with having Porteous, it was an area I thought we needed to improve anyway, albeit I never knew Fish would be anywhere near as good as he is.

My point with Devlin is that Johnson said he wanted first team quality and players that were able to come in , hit the ground running and had been playing regularly so they wouldn’t need that time to get upto speed.

We don’t sign any centre half during the widow and then sign Devlin who hardly played for fleetwood and before that hardly played for Aberdeen in years.

He was never going to come in and be match sharp.

Was Egan Riley not someone who had regularly played centre half as well as right back and centre mid.

[Billy Whizz]

Be better with the boy McClelland on the bench he has been playing in reserve/development games and looked competent at the start of the season.

Can he actually play for Hibs this season
Think Cove sent him back after the window closed, to be honest can’t remember

[Paulie Walnuts]

Can he actually play for Hibs this season
Think Cove sent him back after the window closed, to be honest can’t remember

:agree:

Came back in March so he can’t play this season for Hibs.

[Billy Whizz]

:agree:

Came back in March so he can’t play this season for Hibs.

Ta, they could probably do with him just now

[Mikey_1875]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/lee-johnson-discusses-mikey-devlins-chances-of-facing-hearts-as-hibs-boss-makes-trust-assessment-4103651

Unfortunately seems a fair bit away from any sort of appearance although the headline might suggest otherwise.

[Nutmegged]

Bewildering signing in the first place given his injury record, he's a player as well so it's a shame, I'm guessing he's on a moderate wage and he and the club just wanted to give themselves the second half of the season to get him up to speed and have a proper look at him, even if it's just in training, like a six month trial.

[blackpoolhibs]

And we still have folk saying LJ doesnt slaver, there's a beauty in that interview, (as a human being he’s added great value)

As opposed to what Lee, a frog, cricket bat, hot tub?

[Billy Whizz]

And we still have folk saying LJ doesnt slaver, there's a beauty in that interview, (as a human being he’s added great value)

As opposed to what Lee, a frog, cricket bat, hot tub?




I’d love to know what LJ means?
If he’s not ready, why is he on the bench

[blackpoolhibs]

I’d love to know what LJ means?
If he’s not ready, why is he on the bench

He probably hasnt got a clue either, he just opens his mouth and goes with what comes out.

[oneone73]

Ok you got me intrigued so I had a look back to our championship days.

Current;

Devlin
Tavares
Hauge - Remember him?
You could add about 10 that are ‘development players’ like Tait, Mackay, Delferriere, McLellend etc but they have time.

Ex players;

Nathan Wood
Dillon Barnes
Gael Bigirimana
Jonathon Spector
Darnell Johnson
Charalampos Mavrias
Miquel Nelom
Deivydas Matulevcius
Cammy Bell
Scott Bain 🤣
Facyal Rherras
Neal Eardley
Scott Gallacher - Genuinely can’t remember him at all
Brian McLean
Antonio Reguero
Otso Virtanen
Dan Carmichael
Jamie Insall
Islam Feruz
Adam Eckersley
Jake Sinclair

A lot never played a minute, some couldn’t have played more than 10.

Dan Carmichael is a Scottish Cup hero. Played in the replay v Hertz.

[PHeffernan]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/lee-johnson-discusses-mikey-devlins-chances-of-facing-hearts-as-hibs-boss-makes-trust-assessment-4103651 (https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/lee-johnson-discusses-mikey-devlins-chances-of-facing-hearts-as-hibs-boss-makes-trust-assessment-4103651)

Unfortunately seems a fair bit away from any sort of appearance although the headline might suggest otherwise.

The riddler Johnson sets another riddle.

Journalists not any better.
We want to know what his injury or injuries are and how long it is likely to take to put right.
We want to know why he is on the bench if he won't be risked.

[theonlywayisup]

You really do worry about our recruitment policy.

When we got 3rd in the SPFL under Jack Ross, it was abundantly clear to all that we needed to a solid experienced central defender. We lost Hanlon for the away leg in Croatia and needed to rely on an ageing McGregor. We needed to get someone in then. Instead, we brought in Nathan Wood from Middlesborough, who clearly wasn't good nor experienced enough.

Since then we've brought in a few players, none of who have impressed in central defence apart from Rocky this season and Fish, for some of his games. With Porto obviously being readied for a sale, we should have had some experienced back-up. With Hanlon starting to pick up injuries, we need to sort out the central defence.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if this time next season we're questioning transfer decisions that are pretty obvious to most supporters.

[PHeffernan]

You really do worry about our recruitment policy.

When we got 3rd in the SPFL under Jack Ross, it was abundantly clear to all that we needed to a solid experienced central defender. We lost Hanlon for the away leg in Croatia and needed to rely on an ageing McGregor. We needed to get someone in then. Instead, we brought in Nathan Wood from Middlesborough, who clearly wasn't good nor experienced enough.

Since then we've brought in a few players, none of who have impressed in central defence apart from Rocky this season and Fish, for some of his games. With Porto obviously being readied for a sale, we should have had some experienced back-up. With Hanlon starting to pick up injuries, we need to sort out the central defence.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if this time next season we're questioning transfer decisions that are pretty obvious to most supporters.

You mean the same Nathan Wood who is playing well for Swansea in the same league as Ryan Porteous.
A bit like Fish until Porteous left Wood wasn't given a real chance. One game and he was hastily cast aside.

[Brooster]

Complete waste of money, absolutely ridiculous signing.

[green day]

If Devlin cant play, and we resort to using that awful CH partnership from the Utd match, its shambolic to say the least.

[superfurryhibby]

The riddler Johnson sets another riddle.

Journalists not any better.
We want to know what his injury or injuries are and how long it is likely to take to put right.
We want to know why he is on the bench if he won't be risked.

I think the answer was already provided during the interview.

"It was always a medium-term contract – could we get Devs fit enough to be one of our centre-halves next year, and how quickly could we get him ready to be able to appear for us this year?

“I think he’s done really well; as a human being he’s added great value. He’s a really good lad, really good decision-maker – he just has to get that trust in his body at somewhere between 90 and 100 per cent of his maximum exertion. I think once he does that he’ll be ready.”

So Hibs signed Devlin with a view to appraising his fitness as a potential centre half for next season.

Devlin is considered fit enough to be on the bench, but there are issues with the player trusting his body at or close to maximum exertion (which isn't unusual for players who have had recurring injury issues.

I don't Johnson could havebeen clearer, within the usual parameters of football interviews, so find the riddler pish unnecessary.

What troubles me is that Hibs are putting a significant effort into recruiting a guy who has never struck me as being that good anyway. An average SPFL centre half at best. That I find worrying.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I think the answer was already provided during the interview.

"It was always a medium-term contract – could we get Devs fit enough to be one of our centre-halves next year, and how quickly could we get him ready to be able to appear for us this year?

“I think he’s done really well; as a human being he’s added great value. He’s a really good lad, really good decision-maker – he just has to get that trust in his body at somewhere between 90 and 100 per cent of his maximum exertion. I think once he does that he’ll be ready.”

So Hibs signed Devlin with a view to appraising his fitness as a potential centre half for next season.

Devlin is considered fit enough to be on the bench, but there are issues with the player trusting his body at or close to maximum exertion (which isn't unusual for players who have had recurring injury issues.

I don't Johnson could havebeen clearer, within the usual parameters of football interviews, so find the riddler pish unnecessary.

What troubles me is that Hibs are putting a significant effort into recruiting a guy who has never struck me as being that good anyway. An average SPFL centre half at best. That I find worrying.

If Devlin doesn’t trust his body to push it past 90% then he should be nowhere near our bench.

[superfurryhibby]

If Devlin doesn’t trust his body to push it past 90% then he should be nowhere near our bench.

If he was an outstanding talent with a deep psychological issues following serious injury, I can understand Hibs being willing to be patient and give him a short term deal with a view to signing him up.

As it is, it's another WTF signing from our bizarre recruitment team.

I personally cannot believe Johnson thought , aye we're desperately short of a centre half (having just sold our best one) so we'll sign a guy who lacks mental fortitude and has serious reservations about exerting himself to the full. he can sit on our bench, but we'll agree never to send him on the field.

[Smartie]

Does it not all depend on how much we're paying him?

Devlin's got a couple of caps and has been good enough to get in and around the Scotland squad. That's generally a level that's good enough to make for a stalwart Hibs centre half.

If we're paying him very little with a view that both parties suss each other out with a view to a longer term move, and with "sensible" expectations regarding covering for emergencies short term, I really don't see what the big deal is.

If we're paying him top whack then yes, it appears to be an act of insanity.

He wasn't in the strongest of bargaining positions though so I'd be surprised if we're paying him loads, and for that reason I don't think this transfer even makes it into the top 10 most baffling Hibs transfers over the past 18 months.

If only we'd come up with a similar sort of agreement for Darren McGregor a decade or more ago, when he was injury affected and about to give a few years' service to St Mirren and Sevco.

[superfurryhibby]

Does it not all depend on how much we're paying him?

Devlin's got a couple of caps and has been good enough to get in and around the Scotland squad. That's generally a level that's good enough to make for a stalwart Hibs centre half.

If we're paying him very little with a view that both parties suss each other out with a view to a longer term move, and with "sensible" expectations regarding covering for emergencies short term, I really don't see what the big deal is.

If we're paying him top whack then yes, it appears to be an act of insanity.

He wasn't in the strongest of bargaining positions though so I'd be surprised if we're paying him loads, and for that reason I don't think this transfer even makes it into the top 10 most baffling Hibs transfers over the past 18 months.

If only we'd come up with a similar sort of agreement for Darren McGregor a decade or more ago, when he was injury affected and about to give a few years' service to St Mirren and Sevco.

I agree, up to a point. I doubt very much he is on anything more than a very basic wage just now.

However, we are in a situation where we are having to rely upon Fish and Egan-Riley as our centre half partnership going into a derby match and a crucial end phase of our season.

Is Mikey Devlin really a good enough player to be a long term improvement to this side ? Does his past injury history suggest that he is likely to give us some good seasons if he signs up?

I'm sick of poor quality signings. Surely our recruitment team can do better than identifying an injury prone centre half, in the short and long term.

[Smartie]

I agree, up to a point. I doubt very much he is on anything more than a very basic wage just now.

However, we are in a situation where we are having to rely upon Fish and Egan-Riley as our centre half partnership going into a derby match and a crucial end phase of our season.

Is Mikey Devlin really a good enough player to be a long term improvement to this side ? Does his past injury history suggest that he is likely to give us some good seasons if he signs up?

I'm sick of poor quality signings. Surely our recruitment team can do better than identifying an injury prone centre half, in the short and long term.

A few great points in there.

And I accept that the lack of a reliable centre half is a problem. Devlin should really have been an extra signing with little / nothing expected.

My main concern is that there doesn't seem to be any strategy or planning to our squad or recruitment. We don't seem to have any idea that x player is going to be here for y years therefore the bedrock of the team is going to be this for so long. It's reactive, last minute, sticking plaster crap and it's seen us get progressively weaker in a frightening short time scale.

The rebuild of the defence has been looming for some time, with Stevenson and Hanlon (you could arguably fire Gray and McGregor in there too) ageing, Porteous and Doig inevitably moving at some point and it seems like we have no great plan on who is going to play for us over the next few years.

I liked the chat when Stubbs and LD came in about first choice players, reserves and youngsters, with every position being covered. Lo and behold we quickly ended up with a competent and balanced squad. Moving on to now, we don't appear to have a clue what we're doing.

Devlin doesn't seem to be a symptom of that though. If anything, going by what Johnson has said, it could be argued that he might actually be a step in the right direction to fixing that?

[PHeffernan]

I think the answer was already provided during the interview.

"It was always a medium-term contract – could we get Devs fit enough to be one of our centre-halves next year, and how quickly could we get him ready to be able to appear for us this year?

“I think he’s done really well; as a human being he’s added great value. He’s a really good lad, really good decision-maker – he just has to get that trust in his body at somewhere between 90 and 100 per cent of his maximum exertion. I think once he does that he’ll be ready.”

So Hibs signed Devlin with a view to appraising his fitness as a potential centre half for next season.

Devlin is considered fit enough to be on the bench, but there are issues with the player trusting his body at or close to maximum exertion (which isn't unusual for players who have had recurring injury issues.

I don't Johnson could havebeen clearer, within the usual parameters of football interviews, so find the riddler pish unnecessary.

What troubles me is that Hibs are putting a significant effort into recruiting a guy who has never struck me as being that good anyway. An average SPFL centre half at best. That I find worrying.

The riddle is him dancing round the elephant in the room which is why is Devlin on the bench if he won't play him when required.
Yesterday he also managed to say on the official site that Hanlon has a chance of playing on Saturday whilst saying in the Evening News that he was injured but should be available after the split.

For me Devlin was brought in, after Bushiri was injured and Porteous left, to cover for Hanlon if required and that time finally arrived last weekend.
As Johnson says he was also signed so they could look at him with a view to signing him up on a longer deal if the medical team gave them the all clear.
A 29 year old Scottish International centre half and possible future Hibs captain on a free and with an opportunity to look at him for four months first.
If only they had been able to do the same with Magennis.

[superfurryhibby]

The riddle is him dancing round the elephant in the room which is why is Devlin on the bench if he won't play him when required.
Yesterday he also managed to say on the official site that Hanlon has a chance of playing on Saturday whilst saying in the Evening News that he was injured but should be available after the split.

For me Devlin was brought in, after Bushiri was injured and Porteous left, to cover for Hanlon if required and that time finally arrived last weekend.
As Johnson says he was also signed so they could look at him with a view to signing him up on a longer deal if the medical team gave them the all clear.
A 29 year old Scottish International centre half and possible future Hibs captain on a free and with an opportunity to look at him for four months first.
If only they had been able to do the same with Magennis.

he just has to get that trust in his body at somewhere between 90 and 100 per cent of his maximum exertion. I think once he does that he’ll be ready.”


I think that answered the question.

[PHeffernan]

he just has to get that trust in his body at somewhere between 90 and 100 per cent of his maximum exertion. I think once he does that he’ll be ready.”


I think that answered the question.

I get that but until then why is he on the bench?
He's been on the bench 5 times now.

[Smartie]

he just has to get that trust in his body at somewhere between 90 and 100 per cent of his maximum exertion. I think once he does that he’ll be ready.”


I think that answered the question.

Have we not had a few players with this sort of situation? Our "2 weeks away" brigade?

I'm sure Jack Rodwell at Sunderland used to pick up £70k per week but whilst the medical staff couldn't find anything medically wrong with him, he wasn't ever fit enough to play. He'd call off on the Friday every week citing not trusting his body to be able to withstand playing, and eventually also refusing to play midfield as that put to much pressure on his "injuries".

[Scotty Leither]

There’s junior teams which are ran better than we are just now.

Devlin’s signing is almost as unfathomable as Eckersley’s signing, who limped into East Mains on crutches to sign, and never kicked a ball for the first team.

Maybe the club could run an audit on players we’ve signed in the last 4 or 5 windows and tell us how much they cost in respect of wages and agent fees, compared to the return we’ve had off them in terms of appearances on the park?

Embarrassing doesn’t cover it.

[Trinity Hibee]

There’s junior teams which are ran better than we are just now.

Devlin’s signing is almost as unfathomable as Eckersley’s signing, who limped into East Mains on crutches to sign, and never kicked a ball for the first team.

Maybe the club could run an audit on players we’ve signed in the last 4 or 5 windows and tell us how much they cost in respect of wages and agent fees, compared to the return we’ve had off them in terms of appearances on the park?

Embarrassing doesn’t cover it.

You do have to wonder who signs this stuff off. If Devlin doesn’t play before end of season either due to injury or not trusting his body then someone needs their arse kicked.

Sick of ST money being wasted on absolute pish or players who are never going to be fit to play.

[superfurryhibby]

I get that but until then why is he on the bench?
He's been on the bench 5 times now.

I think the journalist probably asked LJ that question, hence a statement which suggests by implication that Devlin isn't psychologically ready to play.

However, it is all a bit bizarre, especially as he's not exactly a massive capture, even if fully fit.

[MWHIBBIES]

There’s junior teams which are ran better than we are just now.

Devlin’s signing is almost as unfathomable as Eckersley’s signing, who limped into East Mains on crutches to sign, and never kicked a ball for the first team.

Maybe the club could run an audit on players we’ve signed in the last 4 or 5 windows and tell us how much they cost in respect of wages and agent fees, compared to the return we’ve had off them in terms of appearances on the park?

Embarrassing doesn’t cover it.

Eckersley was signed as a short term back up to Lewis and was on the bench a few times. Lewis was playing very well and he was never needed.

[Scotty Leither]

Eckersley was signed as a short term back up to Lewis and was on the bench a few times. Lewis was playing very well and he was never needed.

So another player who was signed and never played a game.

[PHeffernan]

I think the journalist probably asked LJ that question, hence a statement which suggests by implication that Devlin isn't psychologically ready to play.

However, it is all a bit bizarre, especially as he's not exactly a massive capture, even if fully fit.

If you are Devlin you know you have limited time to get on that pitch and perform to win another contract.
Only 7 games to go and the balance is currently on him not getting a contract.
If it's a psychological matter he must in the career predicament he finds himself be looking to force himself forward before Hanlon returns and closes him out.

[Scotty Leither]

If you are Devlin you know you have limited time to get on that pitch and perform to win another contract.
Only 7 games to go and the balance is currently on him not getting a contract.
If it's a psychological matter he must in the career predicament he finds himself be looking to force himself forward before Hanlon returns and closes him out.

Or a player taking a wage and knocking a rise out of a recruitment team/CEO/manager who don’t know what day of the week it is.

[superfurryhibby]

If you are Devlin you know you have limited time to get on that pitch and perform to win another contract.
Only 7 games to go and the balance is currently on him not getting a contract.
If it's a psychological matter he must in the career predicament he finds himself be looking to force himself forward before Hanlon returns and closes him out.

Given his injury record and history, you would say his career is in the balance.

I just looked at his stats. Serious knee injury in the last league game of 2016-17. then off to Aberdeen in the January window in 2018. He managed 49 games in total before other injuries kicked in. He only played twice more for Aberdeen, then four times for Fleetwood. In total he's played 6 games in three years.

I know this stuff has been posted on here before, it just never sunk in. It just reinforces my surprise that anyone at Hibs could have thought Devlin was worth signing. If the guy isn't free of injury risk a year or more since he last kicked a ball...... I don't get it.

[MWHIBBIES]

So another player who was signed and never played a game.

In the championship, were you expecting 22 equal quality players? Or did it make sense to have some backups?

Our recruitment was so bad that season we won the Scottish cup.

[Scotty Leither]

In the championship, were you expecting 22 equal quality players? Or did it make sense to have some backups?

Our recruitment was so bad that season we won the Scottish cup.

It didn’t make sense to sign a guy who couldn’t walk without the aid of crutches the day he signed; some more quality additions might have got us out that poxy league earlier.

[MWHIBBIES]

It didn’t make sense to sign a guy who couldn’t walk without the aid of crutches the day he signed; some more quality additions might have got us out that poxy league earlier.

Again, backup, not really required unless something went very wrong, was fit and on the bench fairly quickly. Recruitment was tremendous in the championship. Wish it was like that now.

[Hibees1973]

Devlin encapsulates the whole debacle that is our transfer strategy.

Aimless, hopeless and totally confusing.

[PHeffernan]

Or a player taking a wage and knocking a rise out of a recruitment team/CEO/manager who don’t know what day of the week it is.

Devlin is professional and intelligent.
For me he will be doing everything in his power to play.

[PHeffernan]

Given his injury record and history, you would say his career is in the balance.

I just looked at his stats. Serious knee injury in the last league game of 2016-17. then off to Aberdeen in the January window in 2018. He managed 49 games in total before other injuries kicked in. He only played twice more for Aberdeen, then four times for Fleetwood. In total he's played 6 games in three years.

I know this stuff has been posted on here before, it just never sunk in. It just reinforces my surprise that anyone at Hibs could have thought Devlin was worth signing. If the guy isn't free of injury risk a year or more since he last kicked a ball...... I don't get it.

I don't think he has been the same player since the bad knee injury he sustained playing for Hamilton at the end of the 2016/17 season.
Aberdeen bought him the following January 2018 when he was still injured and he didn't play again until the following season.
Even at the end of his contract Aberdeen gave him extensions to try to get fully fit which would suggest they thought he was close, just as Hibs do now, which would suggest the likelihood is he won't make it. Sad because he is a sensible guy and was a very good player at Hamilton where he was captain at an early age.

[Callum_62]

Humble pie being served if he starts and scores the winner [emoji23]

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[JimBHibees]

Definitely the sort of leader we could do with. Needs to be ready to play though. You would assume last week would have been more sensible to play given the way United played. If plays hope he does well.

[blackpoolhibs]

I don't think he has been the same player since the bad knee injury he sustained playing for Hamilton at the end of the 2016/17 season.
Aberdeen bought him the following January 2018 when he was still injured and he didn't play again until the following season.
Even at the end of his contract Aberdeen gave him extensions to try to get fully fit which would suggest they thought he was close, just as Hibs do now, which would suggest the likelihood is he won't make it. Sad because he is a sensible guy and was a very good player at Hamilton where he was captain at an early age.

They should have just paid him half of his salary,and let another club pay the rest, or just got rid of him.